movie list
Book Guy
help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list, gleaned
mostly from this newsgroup
Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
Tao of Steve
Whipped
But all these are probably full of the typical Hollywood BS, that the "real
player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his head for
some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
Chris Odom
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Book Guy wrote:
> Wanted: suggestions for movies that "illustrate" PUAs in action, and maybe
> help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list, gleaned
> mostly from this newsgroup
>
> Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
> Tao of Steve
> Whipped
I'd take magnolia off that list.
I'd add the witches of eastwick and swingers
> But all these are probably full of the typical Hollywood BS, that the "real
> player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his head for
> some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
they might do that kind of plot stuff for the money, but any pua
techniques portrayed are good regardless of the end of the movie.
Formhandle
> Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
> Tao of Steve
> Whipped
Take Magnolia off the list.
I don't know about the other 2.
Put "Witches of Eastwick" at the top. Also, look up a movie called
"Lovelife" (1997). There's a scene in it where the character Alan is at
a party and goes for a close with some chick even while his girlfriend
is at the party.
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Michael Snyder
Book Guy wrote in message <39d3aa48$0$143$736...@news2.twtelecom.net>...
>Wanted: suggestions for movies that "illustrate" PUAs in action, and maybe
>help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list, gleaned
>mostly from this newsgroup
>
>Tao of Steve
>Whipped
>
>player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his head
for
>some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
Hey, man, just ignore the hollywood ending.
You can learn an AWEFUL lot from "The Tao of Steve" if you
just listen to what he SAYS, and ignore what he DOES (after he
gets hooked on Syd, that is).
Michael Snyder
Formhandle wrote in message <39D3ACD5...@aol.com>...
>Book Guy wrote:
>
>> Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
>> Tao of Steve
>> Whipped
>
>
>I don't know about the other 2.
>
>Put "Witches of Eastwick" at the top. Also, look up a movie called
>"Lovelife" (1997). There's a scene in it where the character Alan is at
>a party and goes for a close with some chick even while his girlfriend
>is at the party.
Oh yeah, and talk about powerful "player" scenes, how about the
one in "Eyes Wide Shut" where the older European guy is putting
some serious moves on Nicole Kidman! That was breath-taking! ;-)
madd...@my-deja.com
"Michael Snyder" <msn...@ispchannel.com> wrote:
>
> Book Guy wrote in message
<39d3aa48$0$143$736...@news2.twtelecom.net>...
> >Wanted: suggestions for movies that "illustrate" PUAs in action, and
maybe
> >help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list,
gleaned
> >mostly from this newsgroup
> >
> >Tao of Steve
> >Whipped
> >
"real
> >player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his
head
> for
> >some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
>
> Hey, man, just ignore the hollywood ending.
> You can learn an AWEFUL lot from "The Tao of Steve" if you
> just listen to what he SAYS, and ignore what he DOES (after he
> gets hooked on Syd, that is).
>
>
chicks he was hung like a horse, great in bed, etc. Social proof in
action
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OK, James Bond is a bit unrealistic but Sean Connery went to
considerable lengths to get attitude and the body language right and
that's half the battle.
Also, the bar scene for Top Gun. Again unrealistic but it illustrates
overwhelming confidence. If you look like Tom Cruise and your flying
F15s you've probably got a lot to be confident about, but a stunt like
that might just work for a regular guy.
finish...@my-deja.com
women is probably spot on.
For example James Bond (at least Connery's Bond) is the ultimate alpha
male.
He walks the walk and talks the talk as well as any other character in
the movies. Watch his smooth, firm, slightly arrogant body language and
his total awareness of everything (especially the women)around him.
Basically, he knows he's the man and he knows everyone else will know
just by looking at him.
Watch the scene in Dr No where Bond enters Moneypenny's office, sits on
the arm of her chair, takes her arm and kisses her on the head.
That is just the kind on kino women are looking for.
I've never read them, but it might be worth reading the original
Fleming books. The original Bond was a lot darker than the Bond you see
in the films, but Fleming put considerable effort into creating his
character and he's certainly more than pure fiction.
Atomic
>overwhelming confidence. If you look like Tom Cruise and your flying
>F15s you've probably got a lot to be confident about, but a stunt like
>that might just work for a regular guy.
I recently saw it again. Apart from being good looking, Tom Cruise never
apologises, never begs, nevers looks desperate (though he's not supposed
to have other girls on the backburner) and finaly gets the girls by
acting pissed off !
Thomas
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finish...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Although a lot James Bond is pure fantasy some of the stuff about the
> women is probably spot on.
>
> For example James Bond (at least Connery's Bond) is the ultimate alpha
> male.
>
> He walks the walk and talks the talk as well as any other character in
> the movies. Watch his smooth, firm, slightly arrogant body language
and
> his total awareness of everything (especially the women)around him.
> Basically, he knows he's the man and he knows everyone else will know
> just by looking at him.
>
I like the scene from Jurassic Park where Jeff Goldblum tries to
explain the Caous theory to the blonde chick(I forget her name). Anyhow
I found many good examples of kino in this one scene alone.
eclipse
slaveboy
>The opening scene from Dr No is a classic.
>
>OK, James Bond is a bit unrealistic but Sean Connery went to
>considerable lengths to get attitude and the body language right and
>that's half the battle.
>
Check out Sean connery in " Highlander 2".
His scene on the plane is worth sitting through the whole movie.
Dave Riker
>OK, James Bond is a bit unrealistic but Sean Connery went to
>considerable lengths to get attitude and the body language right and
>that's half the battle.
And that also shows that you dont have to be an asshole to have women like
you.
I would add:
"Swingers"
Great for attitutude.
"How to be a Player"
Its just hilarious.
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To which I would further add:
"The Thomas Crown Affair"
Simple, direct, and playful in its power.
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1.enteract.com>,
and maybe
> > help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list,
gleaned
> > mostly from this newsgroup
> >
> > Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
> > Tao of Steve
> > Whipped
>
> I'd add the witches of eastwick and swingers
Yup, and Don Juan DeMarco
The Pickup Artist has some value in the first 30 minutes.
> > But all these are probably full of the typical Hollywood BS, that
the "real
> > player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his
head for
> > some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
> they might do that kind of plot stuff for the money, but any pua
> techniques portrayed are good regardless of the end of the movie.
Agreed.
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Mitchell Leary
in the pub is one of my favorite scenes. First the fantastic entrance:
the knife is thrown as a attention getter. Then the rubber alligator
bit, which scares the hell out of her and makes HIM the focus, then
makes her laugh. Then the alpha male introduction of wiping his hand
off to shake hands with her. When he grabs her and they dance he at
once shows her he is completely confident and doesn't give a rats ass
about what people think.
The movie is filled with great lines (many of which would make wonderful
pick-up lines) and alpha mannerisms.
It must work because they have been married for 14 years. She says he
is exactly like the character in the movie.
saki...@my-deja.com
"Book Guy" <book...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wanted: suggestions for movies that "illustrate" PUAs in action, and
maybe
> help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list,
gleaned
> mostly from this newsgroup
>
> Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
> Tao of Steve
> Whipped
>
"real
> player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his
head for
> some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
I really enjoyed "The Unbearable Lightness of Being". Daniel Day
Lewis plays the Czech surgeon Tomas, who is quite a character to watch
on the screen, for an attitude which is mischievous and playfully
confident. Tomas seems to be able to get women into bed with the one
line "Take off your clothes."
When "Dangerous Liaisons" came out, every single woman I know said
she would have been unable to resist John Malkovich's character, the
professional seducer Valmont. He reminds you of a predator, the way he
moves around his victims. About as non-AFC as you can get!!
Anyoe else enjoy these ?
Dave Riker
How to be a Player
The Pickup Artist (Marginal)
Don Juna DeMarco
Swingers
Witches of Eastwick
The Tao of Steve
Is that the consensus?
In article <8rdpsu$m03$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, night...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <Pine.NEB.3.96.1000928154224.60031B-100000@shell-
>1.enteract.com>,
> Chris Odom <ch...@enteract.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Book Guy wrote:
>>
>> > Wanted: suggestions for movies that "illustrate" PUAs in action,
>and maybe
>> > help "indoctrinate" via attitude-adjustment. Here's a starter list,
>gleaned
>> > mostly from this newsgroup
>> >
>> > Magnolia (included Tom Cruise as a semi-PUA)
>> > Tao of Steve
>> > Whipped
>>
>> I'd take magnolia off that list.
>Yup.
>
>> I'd add the witches of eastwick and swingers
>
>Yup, and Don Juan DeMarco
>The Pickup Artist has some value in the first 30 minutes.
>
>
>
>> > But all these are probably full of the typical Hollywood BS, that
>the "real
>> > player" eventually gets "caught" by someone he can't get out of his
>head for
>> > some other reason. Any movies that don't swallow that BS?
>
>> they might do that kind of plot stuff for the money, but any pua
>> techniques portrayed are good regardless of the end of the movie.
>
>Agreed.
>
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>Just be yourself...
>
>
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>
> So, we have..
>
> How to be a Player
> The Pickup Artist (Marginal)
> Don Juna DeMarco
> Swingers
> Witches of Eastwick
> The Tao of Steve
>
> Is that the consensus?
>
Again, I reiterate my recommendation of:
The Thomas Crown Affair.
Excellent movie for attitude and charisma modeling.
finish...@my-deja.com
and the related pickup sites about jerks and alpha males it might be
interesting to note the role in movies of the bad guy and the love
interest.
Generally, in many movies the bad guy starts out as the dominant alpha
male. The love interest often starts out with the bad guy and seems to
have no qualms about the fact that her boyfriend is a
gangster/meglomaniac intent on wiping out millions of people. Only when
the good guy (who usually starts of as an underdog who would not
normally be able to catch such a female) succeeds in defeating the bad
guy does the good guy win the love interest over. The girl becomes a
heroine and settles down to a happy ever after with the good guy.
The fact that she starts out with the bad guy seems not to matter.
Whilst the male characters are categorised as good and bad, the female
love interest is no more than a trophy who goes to the strongest male.
Effectively, it is OK for her to go out with the bad guy and condone
his criminal activities whilst still ending up a winner at the end of
the day.
The general pattern seems to equate with the observation that women
prefer jerks despite what they say. Objectively, the heroine needs to
ask herself what she's doing hanging out with the bad guy. But it seems
emotion takes over. Perhaps for reasons of evolutionary biology she's
attracted to the bad guy because he's the strongest male. Only when the
good guy becomes the strongest male does she fall for him.
stevie...@fastmail.ca
>As an aside and an illustration of the points raised in this newsgroup
>and the related pickup sites about jerks and alpha males it might be
>interesting to note the role in movies of the bad guy and the love
>interest.
>
>Whilst the male characters are categorised as good and bad, the female
>love interest is no more than a trophy who goes to the strongest male.
>Effectively, it is OK for her to go out with the bad guy and condone
>his criminal activities whilst still ending up a winner at the end of
>the day.
>
A great movie to watch is French Kiss. It's a perfect female fantasy
film. PUA's can learn from it.
The film starts with her getting ready to marry a safe, boring, AFC nerd
in Canada- the safest, boringest place in the world.
When she starts to talk about settling down & buying a house he gets
edgy. You can see he's marrying her for the wrong reasons- he
hasn't lived yet, but he's too much of a beta male to do anything
about it. You can almost feel the contempt females watching the
movie have for the guy even at this stage.
She's afraid of flying and so turns down a chance to go to Paris with
AFC-fiance on a business trip. While in Paris this guy hooks up with
a "goddess" who would never have anything to do with such an AFC in real
life- but this is a movie, and this little event confirms the nagging
female fear that some gorgeous HB is always waiting in the wings to
steal her man (if she wants him around- if she doesn't respect him she
gets the even more horrible idea that no one will ever rescue her by
coming and taking him off her hands :)
When he calls from Paris to jilt her, she gets mightily offended and
develops the backbone to get on a plane and go to Paris to take on
her rival and get her man back.
She gets herself on the plane, and who should she sit beside but an
alpha male con man who's on a mysterious last mission. He's contemptuous
of her fear and razzes her- doesn't care a whit about her feelings (sound
familiar?)
She tracks down her AFC in a hotel and we see him fawning over his new
goddess. Supplication city.
She's forced to fall in with Alpha Guy, who confidently deals with the
problems that arise, and she slowly starts to see the hidden treasure
in his heart (the movie cliche: "rogue with a heart of gold." Females
love this stereotype 'cause it confirms their belief that assholes have
the potential to change.)
In a symbolic moment that goes right over the heads of guys watching the
film she throws a little seedling away over her shoulder. Alpha guy runs
to catch it and yells at her not to harm his vine. This is the seedling
that he will need to buld his dream of settling down and building a
vineyard.
Anyhow, the movie progresses toward a climax where she takes a leap of
faith, gives her savings to alpha guy, they buy a vineyard and she settles
happily into the romantic life of a winegrower.
AFC ends the movie supplicating goddess and begging her not to leave him.
Everyone's contempt is obvious.
This movie exploits the inbuilt female programming to the max. Message:
take up with a beta guy and you'll never be able to trust him- he's
bound to betray you. He's got no inner strength. Find yourself an alpha
guy and uncover his heart of gold- that's the way to happiness.
The movie was a huge commercial
success. I wonder how many thousands of young females were sent straight
into the arms of assholes by this movie.
Oh well- at least it primes 'em to take up with alpha male ASF readers.
You wouldn't stab one of your paramours in the back- would you guys?
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day/live life to the fullest attitude that's important to PU.
Also there's a line I love - when the boys get a couple of chicks in
thier cave, one of them looks to her and recite's Shakespeare's famous
sonnet
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate
Then he said 'I made that up, just for you.'
Just comes off as a compliment to a dumb chick, but if she knows
shakespeare at all, this should get a laugh
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Peanut
>How about Dead Poets Society
Yes, loved it! And the French Kiss.
Peanut
Avid film watcher
madd...@my-deja.com
last night after I got home. Val Kilmer plays a genius/geek turned PUA
- he realized there's more to life than studying and shows the other
geeks how to relax and have fun.
He's a great Alpha Male "I didn't want you to think I was all brains
and no penis"
Atomic
>
>How to be a Player
>The Pickup Artist (Marginal)
>Don Juna DeMarco
>Swingers
>Witches of Eastwick
>The Tao of Steve
>
>
>Is that the consensus?
Seeing the "Witches of Eastwick" frequently cited, I just bought the
DVD.
There are indeed a couple of scenes where Jack Nicholson displays good
examples of:
- outrageous confidence (basicaly acts like there's absolutely no doubt
he's going to fuck the girl)
- embedded commands ("get some size into it") and more direct ones ("do
it now")
- self pointing
- sexual talk
- hand kino
- pacing the ongoing reality
- leading a girl's imagination
- not feeling the slightest guilt about one's sexual desire
- creating competition among girls.
The rest of the film is average, somewhat fun, reminds me of Jumanji.
Thomas
John B
I like that scene in "Wild At Heart" where Willem Dafoe
keeps telling Laura Dern to say "fuck me" until she does,
and his follow-up is just hilarious.
Someone mentioned a few posts back about the blonde chick
in Jurassic Park. Same chick, Laura Dern.
John
night...@hotmail.com
another list posted it, and I love it.
Cruel Intensions
And if you mention cruel intentions, you should definately not leave out
Dangerous Liaisons
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