That's just the tip of the iceburg.
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From: Princess Melissa (gymngd...@aol.comedy)
Subject: Ray Gordon
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Date: 1999/10/17
I know I never post here, and I probably never will again. But you
guys aren't the only ones Ray harasses and I'm sure some of you are
aware of it and some of you aren't (I see a few names that I
recognize).
Note: When Ray harasses you guys, at least he is harassing adults.
When he harasses us, he is harassing a newsgroup that has children and
young adults reading it.
For Ray, it's not about seduction. It's about power. Dominating women.
Sure it's a turn on for men, but when they are children/teenagers, it
is illegal, and disturbing. He sits all day long in the AOL Gymnast
Chat trying to track down information on young gymnast Dominique
Moceanu, his biggest obsession. It's impossible to have a
conversation with him about ANYTHING (the weather, football, mashed
potatoes) without him bringing her up. He claims there is a
"Gymnastics Mafia" after him, trying to kill him and his
"credibility".
Facts:
Ray has threatened to
a) slash my face to "tiny bits and pieces".
b) bash in my skull with a baseball bat.
c) inject me with HIV+ blood.
d) do me "OJ style".
and many more.
At the time when he did this, I was 17 years old.
I am now 20. And he is still threatening to sue me. Claims I'm
"harming his business", which to this day he claims is doing great.
Whatever.
Obviously those of you who are used to dealing with Gordon are not
surprised. But I do wonder what kind of credibility he has in this
group.
Any?
Melissa Pearson
Santa Clara, CA
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Here are some of the AOL chat logs where Ray said some of the things
Milissa is referring to..
>>================================ CYouIn2000: Bitch CYouIn2000: If it were
>>legal, I'd set you on fire with Gasoline and
strike a match
>>CYouIn2000: But fortunately for you that's not legal CYouIn2000: The
>>police can handle it ================================ CYouIn2001: You're
>>lucky I'm ethical or you and your prized gymnast
would be in wheelchairs
>>CYouIn2001: Dominique has no friends other than herself GymnGDoll: so
>>little you know... CYouIn2001: Wrong CYouIn2001: Dominique uses people
>>because it is what she was taught
to do
>>GymnGDoll: that little fantasy world again CYouIn2001: If it were legal
>>I'd wipe that grin off your face with a
baseball bat
>>GymnGDoll: is the wallpaper in there nice? CYouIn2001: Better yet if it
>>were legal I'd let you watch Beth
become a quadraplegic
>>================================ GymnGDoll: Just wait til they're carrying
>>out your PC...THEN I'll be
laughing my fricking ass off!!
>>CYouIn2001: If it were legal, I'd inject you with HIV+ blood. Go
report that.
>>================================ CYouIn2001: Golddigging whore (snip)
>>CYouIn2001: Fortunately for you, I'm civilized CYouIn2001: You deserve to
>>be harmed CYouIn2001: To shut up that mouth of yours CYouIn2001: Actually,
>>you deserve to watch your daughters harmed
right in front of you
>>CYouIn2001: But luckily for you, laws prevent that CYouIn2001: You deserve
>>to watch your daughters have their skulls
crushed with a baseball bat to shut up your mouth, CUNT. But this is a
civilized society that protects even cunts like you...
>>CYouIn2001: Keep mouthing off long enough and you'll run into a man
who lacks my ethics and will give you what you deserve, you stupid
whore.
>>Whrlwnd99: Uh huh! Whrlwnd99: Loser! CYouIn2001: No, you are the loser
>>CYouIn2001: You're a stupid cunt =========================================
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:07:43 -0500, Women Prefer ME
<women_prefer____________...@juno.com> wrote:
<-------That's what abusers tell the women they beat. "You deserve
it."
____________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Memo To Nice Guys: Women LAUGH AT YOU
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:00:19 -0500
From: The Seduction Library
<the____seduction_libr...@juno.com>
Message-ID:
<20000321.180031.-377737.2.The____Seduction_Libr...@juno.com>
In fact, in many cases of domestic violence, women deliberately
provoke it with taunts like that.
____________________________________________________________________
From: Outfoxing The Foxes <foxesma...@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kim Zmeskal Is A DRUG ADDICT #4 Of Infinity
Date: 22 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <19990222.171156.-263087.39.FoxesMa...@juno.com>
<------Those "victims" you talk about are the instigators. I don't go
around calling people names like that randomly. They have to earn it.
____________________________________________________________________
From: The Seduction Library <the____seduction_libr...@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Memo To Nice Guys: Women LAUGH AT YOU
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <20000321.180031.-
377737.2.The____Seduction_Libr...@juno.com>
You're aware that the abuser's credo is that they only abuse those who
"deserve" it in their minds.
____________________________________________________________________
From: The Seduction Library <the__seduction__libr...@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Gymn Mafia Site Still Down: No Surprise Since They're
COWARDS
Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <20000314.231515.-
333665.0.The__Seduction__Libr...@juno.com>
You're an arrogant little CUNT .... Anyone who follows you is going to
deserve exactly what they get.
Once again, she brought it on herself and that's not my problem.
____________________________________________________________________
From: TwoBux2Win (twobux2...@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Ray Gordon...on domestic violence
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Date: 2000/03/29
A lot of women DO bring on a good whoopin. They nag the shit out of
their boyfriends, whine and treat them like dirt, then play head games
to try to provoke you into a jealous rage, then go crying to the cops
when they get the desired response. Look at Nicole Simpson, now THERE
was a whiney golddigging bitch if I ever saw one. Married a black man
for the money, then uses the kids to play games on his head, provokes
him to the point of physical anger and whines to the cops about what a
monster he is, then uses that whiney little wuss Ron Goldman to drive
him insane with jealousy. Can you blame him for chopping her up and
finally getting some peace of mind?
The guru who put him up to cyberstalking me is not. That one is in
America.
The stalker's INTERNET RAGE is the "Sodini" characteristic, and
there's a LONG history of it that leads straight back to the criminal
gurus in this country.
All he's diong is creating more and more probable cause for law
enforcement, plus my state (the one that has the blood of the three
women on its hands due to ignoring the community) has a "long-arm"
statute that gives itself jurisdiction over HIS actions, while our
courts can do the same in civil cases.
The "methods" this pathetic cyberstalker endorsed led to the murder of
three women by a "failed alpha male." Now he's out going off the deep
end stalking me. Hell, maybe even the Aussies are worried that he
might do the same there.
For out of state types, I could even file in ALLEGHENY COUNTY, where
Sodiini lived.
"ZForce" is just showing how absolutely STUPID these wannabe-PUAs are.
I've got a "batphone" to some TV news outlets that are already
investigating this stuff.
There's a reason "he" hides behind his monitor (which makes what he's
doing a felony now). Men who read this, who might be considering
spending money on this CULT, beware. They harass their own as well,
if their own steps out of line.
The public should have little difficulty seeing the truth once my
200-250 screenshots of a guru using a "Sodini" type (who is still
walking around) to threaten to have me killed. That one was a white-
supremacist as well, and even accused the guru of being the same,
while many others (specifically some promo models of color) have also
accused the same guru).
Hmm, time to call the police in the guru's home jurisdiction to clue
them in. Seems that women who fear cult-like mass-murderers have
begun inspiring the cops here.
The previous poster is having his "moment," but at an amazing legal
cost.
Ray Gordon
http://www.toosmarttofail.com
Go on sissy, name the GURU I work for, oh wait, you can't because I don't
work for anyone. What does that say about your mental illness?
> The stalker's INTERNET RAGE is the "Sodini" characteristic, and
> there's a LONG history of it that leads straight back to the criminal
> gurus in this country.
>
Who are these "crimminal gurus" you keep whining about? Name them if you
have the balls. Otherwise, it's just more empty threats.
> All he's diong is creating more and more probable cause for law
> enforcement, plus my state (the one that has the blood of the three
> women on its hands due to ignoring the community) has a "long-arm"
> statute that gives itself jurisdiction over HIS actions, while our
> courts can do the same in civil cases.
Again the talk of "cases" and "probable cause" which is supposed to make
everyone afraid of him.
>
> The "methods" this pathetic cyberstalker endorsed led to the murder of
> three women by a "failed alpha male." Now he's out going off the deep
> end stalking me. Hell, maybe even the Aussies are worried that he
> might do the same there.
If you don't want replys to your garbage, don't post it. Replying to you is
not stalking, it's participation in a newsgroup.
>
> For out of state types, I could even file in ALLEGHENY COUNTY, where
> Sodiini lived.
File what? More RICO? Against whom are you going to file? Haven't you
learned by now that your legal bumbling does notthing but make you look more
stupid and impotent?
>
> "ZForce" is just showing how absolutely STUPID these wannabe-PUAs are.
> I've got a "batphone" to some TV news outlets that are already
> investigating this stuff.
I bet he's been laid a lot of times since the last time you were. How long
as it been gordon? Ten years? Fifteen?
>
> There's a reason "he" hides behind his monitor (which makes what he's
> doing a felony now). Men who read this, who might be considering
> spending money on this CULT, beware. They harass their own as well,
> if their own steps out of line.
>
Responding to a post is not harrassment, if you don't like it, don't post.
> The public should have little difficulty seeing the truth once my
> 200-250 screenshots of a guru using a "Sodini" type (who is still
> walking around) to threaten to have me killed. That one was a white-
> supremacist as well, and even accused the guru of being the same,
> while many others (specifically some promo models of color) have also
> accused the same guru).
>
> Hmm, time to call the police in the guru's home jurisdiction to clue
> them in. Seems that women who fear cult-like mass-murderers have
> begun inspiring the cops here.
>
Police don't respond well to netkooks.
> The previous poster is having his "moment," but at an amazing legal
> cost.
>
What's the crime? Responding to a post on a public forum, oh that will get
you far.....LOL
> The previous poster is having his "moment," but at an amazing legal
> cost.
>
0 - 20 says you're wrong.
Remember that?
And yet you can't name this 'guru"... why not?
> The stalker's INTERNET RAGE is the "Sodini" characteristic,
You mean like this....
____________________________________________________________________
From: TwoBux2Win (twobux2...@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Ray Gordon...on domestic violence
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Date: 2000/03/29
A lot of women DO bring on a good whoopin. They nag the shit out of
their boyfriends, whine and treat them like dirt, then play head games
to try to provoke you into a jealous rage, then go crying to the cops
when they get the desired response. Look at Nicole Simpson, now THERE
was a whiney golddigging bitch if I ever saw one. Married a black man
for the money, then uses the kids to play games on his head, provokes
him to the point of physical anger and whines to the cops about what a
monster he is, then uses that whiney little wuss Ron Goldman to drive
him insane with jealousy. Can you blame him for chopping her up and
finally getting some peace of mind?
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> The guru who put him up to cyberstalking me is not. That one is in
> America.
Just one little difficulty, gordy roy - you are lacking that thing known
as proof.
you claiming something is NOT proof, just your being gordy roy parker,
newzloon.
Too bad for you.
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.
The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
Tard: n Someone whose actions/words make her/him look like an idiot in
public but s/he is too disconnected to reality to realize it.
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