Oh yes, the caveat to his definition is that a chick is also a "slut" since she has not
fucked HIM, but rather someone else.
This definition of Ray's is a horrendous insult and injustice to the rest of society.
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The world is overburdened with those who claim to know life's secrets.
It's as if I stand on a busy street corner where the great minds of
the world, and their imitators, pass by all claiming to know the way
to Disneyland. Some cannot speak my language. Some are so blinded by
their own brilliance they cannot see. Most have never even been to
Disneyland. The directions some give are incomprehensible. When I ask,
"how do I get to Disneyland?" some respond by asking me for spare
change. Some point in one direction, some in another. Only when I have
traveled to Disneyland myself will I know how to get from here to there.
But a guy who has fucked more than one woman is... a guy. No one would
dare call HIM a slut. Men are allowed to do whatever they want while
the women are treated like possessions.
Again we see the double standards and the blaming of the WOMEN for
playing by the rules created by MEN. Ray's mind-set towards women
would be better suited to the Taliban, where they stone women to death
for being raped.
>But a guy who has fucked more than one woman is... a guy. No one would
>dare call HIM a slut. Men are allowed to do whatever they want while
>the women are treated like possessions.
>
>Again we see the double standards and the blaming of the WOMEN for
>playing by the rules created by MEN. Ray's mind-set towards women
>would be better suited to the Taliban, where they stone women to death
>for being raped.
:::::::There is no doubt that Ray is extremely vicious in his twisted and rabid
hatred of women. Because Ray cannot seduce women, and his "anti-player" (Anti
Seducer) methods fail miserably, yes, he puts the BLAME on women for this.
"It's not his fault, it's the women's fault."
Ray attempts to make the entire world fit HIS perceptions and HIS models of
reality rather than adjusting himself and his own behavior and thinking to how
reality actually is. Anything which does not conform to his thinking is "wrong."
Even those great people who went on crusades to change the world/liberate people
FIRST acknowledged what the reality really was, and then went from there to
bring about change for their cause.
But Ray? Ray just immediately and grossly judges anyone and everything as being
"wrong," based on his own flawed, unrealistic and unrelenting reason.
Even though he won't admit it openly in this forum, it pisses Ray off to no end
that women continually and consistently go for the smooth seducers rather than
him, using his ever-failing and sadly impotent "anti-player" techniques. It is
yet one more reason for him to loathe and despise women vehemently.
Out of all this hatred you will see him attacking this group consistently, and
individuals in this group constantly. Out of all this hatred you will see him
using terms such as "slut, cunt" and "whore." His hatred for women and his
contempt for this group shows up in almost every one of his posts.
You mean YOU don't like hearing that women who respond to certain methods are
slutty.
Of course, part of scoring with a SLUT is to tell her what a FINE LADY she is.
That's just sexual opportunism.
You're such an alpha, bring your lovers here to defend your positions. Better
yet, let's do it in the media. Three-way conversation, mano-a-mano, with your
lover in the debate or judging it.
Got the BALLS?
>Because Ray cannot seduce women,
<snicker> what a lame taunt. A lie, from someone with a RIVAL METHOD....
is that all you have? You want to DISCUSS relationships, then let's ANALYZE
them. Don't run away with a childish taunt like that.
>and his "anti-player"
>(Anti
>Seducer) methods fail miserably, yes, he puts the BLAME on women for this.
Blame for what? I don't deal with trashy sluts. I teach men that they can do
better than these women.
Let's see how well you do in mixed company, Mr. Big Strong Alphamale.
>"It's not his fault, it's the women's fault."
These women aren't women I care about, and I'm not talking about the women I
deal with.
I'm talking about IDIOT SLUTS who respond well to ASF methods.
Why do you think the men HIDE from debates or discussions that involve their
lovers? In front of a mixed audience, it would be no contest.
>Ray attempts to make the entire world fit HIS perceptions and HIS models of
>reality rather than adjusting himself and his own behavior and thinking to
>how
>reality actually is.
And YOU are its arbiter?
Let's talk to the women you are fucking.
Dare ya.
You claim they approve of what you say and not what I say, then PROVE IT!
Got the BALLS?
>Anything which does not conform to his thinking is
>"wrong."
I'm just calling sluts, sluts, and whores, whores. Nothing big there, no
emotions about it, just speaking the truth.
All women aren't like that, but the women that ASF methods will get a man ARE.
Your ad-hominem masturbation isn't going to change that.
>Even those great people who went on crusades to change the world/liberate
>people
>FIRST acknowledged what the reality really was, and then went from there to
>bring about change for their cause.
>
>But Ray? Ray just immediately and grossly judges anyone and everything as
>being
>"wrong," based on his own flawed, unrealistic and unrelenting reason.
All because you say so....
Like I said, let's try a debate with your lover watching and answering my
questions.
Got the BALLS?
>Even though he won't admit it openly in this forum, it pisses Ray off to no
>end
>that women continually and consistently go for the smooth seducers rather
>than
>him,
You mean SLUTS go for the liars. The women who go for me don't give the
players the time of day.
Since you speak of being able to seduce women, would you like to BRING ONE OF
THEM HERE to back you up?
You're not sounding like much of a man right now. Not like much of a man at
all.
Got the BALLS to take my challenge?
>using his ever-failing and sadly impotent "anti-player" techniques.
Actually I'm a Foxhunter. It's odd, though, that you praised "29 Reasons"
which is part of the Seduction Library.
But as I said before, bring the women around and let them monitor the debate or
participate.
Got the BALLS? Your manhood is being challenged.
>It
>is
>yet one more reason for him to loathe and despise women vehemently.
Because you say so?
Sounds like YOU are the one in denial here, for whatever reasons. Women who
fall for methods like the ones in this group are pathetic sluts. This is why
you won't find them endorsing these methods.
>Out of all this hatred you will see him attacking this group consistently,
>and
>individuals in this group constantly.
Excuse me? I'm the one attacked and defamed.
Besides, it's the IDEAS that matter, and if you claim to be speaking for what
women approve of, BRING YOUR LOVER HERE.
I'm challenging your manhood.
Got the BALLS?
>Out of all this hatred you will see him
>using terms such as "slut, cunt" and "whore."
It's not hatred to call a spade a spade.
It's how many women are. Men who parade trashy women around as meaningful
conquests are going to be called on that.
When women show up here, that's apparent. Any mention of the women becoming
involved in the discussion leads the players to whine and then bail out because
they can't defend their positions.
The only people being "seduced" by these arguments are OTHER MEN.
>His hatred for women and his
>contempt for this group shows up in almost every one of his posts.
Now now, that's not a very accurate reflection of what goes on here.
You're a little biased.
Like I said, bring your woman here, Mr. Big Strong Alpha Male. Let her speak
for herself and answer the questions herself.
Got the BALLS?
Your manhood is being challenged.
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:::::::So this is your latest gambit? Challenging other individuals' "manhood?"
This might actually work for you, but 2 conditions would have to be in place
first:
1 - They would actually have to have a MAN who is doing the challenging.
2 - They would have to feel as insecure in their "manhood" as you are, as to
actually be offended in some way by your challenge.
Since neither of these conditions are met, your gambit doesn't work.
In an effort to inform the many people on Usenet who have been offended, provoked, harassed or
otherwise puzzled by the individual calling himself "Ray Gordon", the above website was created
to detail some of his behaviors, opinions, mental illness, and his tendency to proclaim himself
an expert on pretty much everything. The site is NOT affiliated with Gordon Parker and he has
made numerous threats of legal action against it.
New visitors to alt.seduction.fast are welcomed and directed to the main website
http://www.fastseduction.com
Most seduction discussion has been relocated to the forums on this website, as
harassment and bad behavior is prevented there.
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amodern...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) wrote:
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Got the BALLS?
Dare ya.
Got the BALLS?
Got the BALLS?
Because you say so?
Got the BALLS?
Got the BALLS?