>===== Original Message From rodneybi...@cs.com (Rodneybiggs) ===== >I would like to try SS but I always feel funny about using the patterns...any >way to get over this inhibition??
>I need to do this otherwise I will never get the the SS materials from >sseduction .com
IMHO - If you feel funny about doing ANY kind of approach, you haven't got the right mindset yet. Seduction is experimentation, the chicks are not rejecting you...they are rejecting your approach. Modify your approach and/or your presentation of yourself until your results improve.
Why would you feel funny about using a pattern? Is it because if some stranger started talking to you like this you'd think they were on crack? Well, that's because YOU ARE NOT A CHICK!!! A great majority of chicks read those cheap romance novels, full of chance meetings with bad boys who seem to talk at least a little bit like Ross. They fantasize about this, they go to sleep fingering thier pussys thinking about this, and you're afraid to do it?
Maybe you think its too weird - most guys don't talk like this, it would sound totally off the wall. Well, if you go by what most guys do, I guess you'd better be prepared to start buying drinks and dinners, kissing ass, and NOT getting laid. Because that's what MOST guys do - be different from them!
Crash and Burn, my man. Get out there and realize that women are not going to bite your head off or freak out if you do an approach, even a non standard one. Go GM for awhile maybe. After talking about how big your dick is and how hot her pussy is (just kidding :), an IC will seem pretty tame.
That's my $.02, good luck dude!
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> I would like to try SS but I always feel funny about using the > patterns...any way to get over this inhibition??
The inhibition you have, is from thinking that "patterns" are pre-organized, set groups of words that you have to memorize and deliver just so. If you think of "patterning" this way, you are doomed to failure, discontent, and misgivings.
Think of learning patterning as a methodology of interspersing your regular conversational style with expressive imagery that is designed to touch a woman's mind, lead her imagination, and capture her thoughts.
If you can do that, then you're ready to learn how to put patterns together.
Simple response here, and I want every newer person here to read it.
If your not comfortable with patterns, DONT USE THEM. These things are not supposed to be memorized and recited, they are just describing ways of talking which moves emotions. Hopefully to your betterment :).
They are however absolutely NOT necessary, I've never used 99.9% of whats in patterns and I get laid just fine. Admittedly I use poetry alot, which is in my opinion a very nicely refined version of patterning (and easier to get away with some wild subjects in, because it's just poetry, lol). And yes, I'm already a fine talker capable of manipulation and emotional movement (I'm a salesman by trade). Still, I don't TRY to use NLP, I don't sit around STRUGGLING over patterns. If you want to succeed doing these things, you simply have to make it how YOU talk. Patterns are just a rough outline, if you can't adlib a bit on it, it's NOT going to sound right coming out of your mouth. I go out there, I meet women, I attract women, I lay women. If you want to do the same, your NOT going to get it done sitting around here talking about how wierd patterning sounds. Your going to do it by going out there and practicing, by testing yourself, by being CONGRUENT. If you want to use patterns and aren't quite sure about them, go out and try to adlib a few in conversations, see how it works for you. You reap what you sow ;p.
> Simple response here, and I want every newer person here to read it.
> If your not comfortable with patterns, DONT USE THEM. These things are not > supposed to be memorized and recited, they are just describing ways of > talking which moves emotions. Hopefully to your betterment :).
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RJ makes the point time and time again that the patterns he cites are examples only and that the SS student must integrate this kind of talk with his style.
Is there something about this in the FAQ? If not, it deserves to go in.
Alan Palmer wrote: > RJ makes the point time and time again that the patterns he cites > are examples only and that the SS student must integrate this kind > of talk with his style.
> Is there something about this in the FAQ? If not, it deserves to > go in.
I wonder... can everyone here just IMAGINE what it would be like to ... become comfortable using pattern language, use that kind of communication in every aspect of your life? Wouldn't it be great if, in order to... feel comfortable using patterns, you could ...use them in your everyday conversations with people. What an amazing thing that would be. Can you feel that?
Sorry, couldn't help it. Just reinforcing what Alan was saying...
I loved this. When you try to rationalize what patterning is and how the hell such a "complicated" thing could work, patterning really does seem impossible to use. Then you read a post like this, and while you read it, you can't help but to feel the things Formhandle is describing. It's amazing. I read this post and at the same time was thinking, this guy wrote a pattern, and even though I knew it, I couldn't help but feel it. Great!
> > RJ makes the point time and time again that the patterns he cites > > are examples only and that the SS student must integrate this kind > > of talk with his style.
> > Is there something about this in the FAQ? If not, it deserves to > > go in.
> I wonder... can everyone here just IMAGINE what it would be like to ... > become comfortable using pattern language, use that kind of > communication in every aspect of your life? Wouldn't it be great if, in > order to... feel comfortable using patterns, you could ...use them in > your everyday conversations with people. What an amazing thing that > would be. Can you feel that?
> Sorry, couldn't help it. Just reinforcing what Alan was saying...
