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Alt.Seduction.Fast is an unmoderated usenet group and is commonly
referred to as "uASF". Since there is no moderated version of this
newsgroup on usenet, there's a privatized evolution to this group,
"Moderated ASF". Most people, now, who use the shorthand "ASF"
are primarily referring to mASF, not uASF.
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- Read the FAQ before asking newbie questions.
- Lurk for at least a few days before making your first post.
- If you want to post a question, check the FAQ first to make
sure it isn't already answered there.
After you're done reading the FAQ, here are some other resources:
Moderated ASF groups (mASF):
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New visitor guide for fastseduction.com:
http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/
Main group-related sites:
http://www.fastseduction.com/ (Formhandle's site)
http://www.pickupguide.com/ (Maniac's site)
Player Guide:
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Complete ASF acronym List:
http://www.fastseduction.com/acronyms.shtml
Most commonly recommended books/movies on ASF:
http://www.fastseduction.com/books.shtml
Master kill-filter (aka killfile or kill-file) list for ASF:
http://www.fastseduction.com/filters.shtml
For a better uASF experience:
USE THE KILL-FILTER LIST!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
However, that will leave you with almost no useful postings to
peruse so it's highly recommended that you, instead, access mASF.
Postings on how to access mASF are made available here weekly.
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Ray Gordon
> referred to as "uASF". Since there is no moderated version of this
> newsgroup on usenet, there's a privatized evolution to this group,
This group is not for promoting commercial websites, nor is a group FAQ"s
purpose to direct traffic to a commercial website. To act as if one poster
has the right to promote their site over any other poster is an attempt to
gain an unfair competitive advantage.
Anyone doing this should not be surprised to see a Lanham Act lawsuit filed
over that conduct.
Ray Gordon
There are NO "main, group related sites."
To claim there are is something that people often sue over as a violation of
the Lanham Act.
Odious
"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:pNHAe.107$Y54...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
Really ray... care to site any cases of someone suing over a faq posted to a
public usenet group redirecting people to a group on a private server?
>
>
Odious
>> Alt.Seduction.Fast is an unmoderated usenet group and is commonly
>> referred to as "uASF". Since there is no moderated version of this
>> newsgroup on usenet, there's a privatized evolution to this group,
>
> This group is not for promoting commercial websites,
LOL! Funny considering the spam links you post in almost every post you
make to the unmoderated ASF.
Which is why the moderated ASF groups were created in the first place... to
make a place where you couldn't spam.
NlpRapist
>> Alt.Seduction.Fast is an unmoderated usenet group and is commonly
>> referred to as "uASF". Since there is no moderated version of this
>> newsgroup on usenet, there's a privatized evolution to this group,
>
> This group is not for promoting commercial websites, nor is a group FAQ"s
> purpose to direct traffic to a commercial website. To act as if one
> poster has the right to promote their site over any other poster is an
> attempt to gain an unfair competitive advantage.
>
>
Oh, I was wondering why you removed the link to your sites in your
posts...now I know. But Usenet is free speech, one is free to link to
whatever they choose.
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
That is not the same as claiming special status in what purports to be a
"group FAQ."
Throw in what the anonoymous posters do in an attempt to "enforce" that FAQ,
and and that forms the basis for the lawsuit.
Sure, the FAQ publisher can claim they have no control over anonymous
posters, but they do have control over the FAQ itself. That also wouldn't
matter in the case of the Lanham Act claims.
NlpRapist
>> Oh, I was wondering why you removed the link to your sites in your
>> posts...now I know. But Usenet is free speech, one is free to link to
>> whatever they choose.
>
> That is not the same as claiming special status in what purports to be a
> "group FAQ."
>
> Throw in what the anonoymous posters do in an attempt to "enforce" that
> FAQ, and and that forms the basis for the lawsuit.
>
> Sure, the FAQ publisher can claim they have no control over anonymous
> posters, but they do have control over the FAQ itself. That also wouldn't
> matter in the case of the Lanham Act claims.
Please explain to me why it is illegal to place an ad in usenet group.
NlpRapist
NlpRapist
Is the real problem that you feel is that this group generates income for
you and the masf posts redirects people you might get income from? Is that
it?
If so, I would think a judge would say that the masf has right to post to a
free speech forum and that you are being beaten by better advertising.
I don't understand why you are even here...foxhunting is by no means a fast
method, so why don't you seek income in the foxhunting newsgroup?
So, again, what is criminal by posting an ad to a free speech newsgroup??
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
>> FAQ, and and that forms the basis for the lawsuit.
>>
>> Sure, the FAQ publisher can claim they have no control over anonymous
>> posters, but they do have control over the FAQ itself. That also
>> wouldn't matter in the case of the Lanham Act claims.
>
>
> Please explain to me why it is illegal to place an ad in usenet group.
An "ad" and a "group FAQ" are not one and the same.
This is also a civil lawsuit, not a criminal matter.
NlpRapist
Are you saying you see the FAQ being for this newsgroup and not his
services?
NlpRapist
Yogi
wrote:
But you've made accusations of illegal criminal activities by ever one
of the defendants. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of that.
BTW, how's your resolution of the conflict in saying whoever owns the
newsloon.com domain name controls who has access to the site it's
pointed to and controls the content on the site it's pointed to?
You're not too afraid [make that beta male] to answer one little ol'
question are you?
Yogi
Odious
"NlpRapist" <S...@manchester.com> wrote in message
news:x8zfqqricjma2ai.120720051213@IntPC...
That's basically it. Ray came to ASF to spam his garbage, and he is so
pissed that the regulars in ASF made forums that he couldn't spam up.
Nobody is forced or tricked into going to the MASF forums... hey go to have
productive conversations without ray there spewing his disruptive trolls and
spam. But Ray hates that, he hates that people can get away from his
useless shit and he hates that MASF is so productive and successful because
so many of the people who used to post here wanted to get the fuck away from
ray and his noise.
Ray Gordon
>>
>> An "ad" and a "group FAQ" are not one and the same.
>>
>> This is also a civil lawsuit, not a criminal matter.
>
>
> Are you saying you see the FAQ being for this newsgroup and not his
> services?
No, I'm saying that the general purpose of a group FAQ is not to divert
Ray Gordon
>>
>> There are NO "main, group related sites."
>>
>> To claim there are is something that people often sue over as a violation
>> of the Lanham Act.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Is the real problem that you feel is that this group generates income for
> that it?
> If so, I would think a judge would say that the <snip> has right to post
> advertising.
I'm claiming that the use of a "USENET FAQ" to divert traffic to a
commercial website constitutes a violation of the Lanham Act. Because two
commercial websites are listed in the FAQ, I'm claiming a civil conspiracy
(in PA that's when two or more entities agree to engage in actionable
conduct). Civil conspiracy is not like RICO in that any actionable conduct
is a "predicate act" on the state level. To the extent RICO doesn't apply,
this statute almost certainly will in almost every claim I've stated.
If I consider advertising to be actionable, obviously I'm not going to
compete with it. That's what the term UNFAIR COMPETITION describes. I sued
Google because I believe what they do is illegal; if it is ruled legal, then
I can compete against it without problem. I suspect if Google wins in court
that a lot of companies which may have been playing it safe will build
killer search engines to compete with them.
In the sports betting industry, there are American companies which buck the
Justice Department's saber-rattling and take advertising from offshores. To
"compete" against that I have to risk criminal prosecution, OR I can wait
for the pending lawsuits on that issue to resolve and see what the rules
are.
> I don't understand why you are even here...foxhunting is by no means a
> fast method,
Actually, it can work (and has worked) in less than 15 minutes more often
than I care to count. Last I heard, NO method is that "fast." Also, if you
count actual time spent getting the lay, it's minimal. Fast is also a
relative term.
>so why don't you seek income in the foxhunting newsgroup?
The Foxhunting newsgroup was never fully propagated, and once it began
getting posts (right after it was created), a bunch of idiots from here went
over there and started the same shit they were doing here, which undid any
work in creating the group.
> So, again, what is criminal by posting an ad to a free speech newsgroup??
Not an ad, a "group FAQ." And not criminal, actionable. In my lawsuit, I
explained why I considered it actionable.
Ray Gordon
>>> newsgroup??
>>
>> Not an ad, a "group FAQ." And not criminal, actionable. In my lawsuit,
>> I explained why I considered it actionable.
>
>
> where an faq is actionable in this forum. Now if you owned this forum,
> maybe.
That's the point: no one owns the forum. Therefore, no one has special
standing in the group. The "group FAQ" is enforcable through ISP abuse
departments and generally relied upon by newbies. It is therefore a very
influential document.
Most USENET group FAQs just state the community standards for the group and
what's considered on topic. What happens in the group, stays in the group,
and that's that.
This is not the case in this group.
NlpRapist
>> So, again, what is criminal by posting an ad to a free speech newsgroup??
>
> Not an ad, a "group FAQ." And not criminal, actionable. In my lawsuit, I
> explained why I considered it actionable.
I'll reread the suit, I'm being totally honest here, I just don't see where
an faq is actionable in this forum. Now if you owned this forum, maybe.
NlpRapist
Vince Runza
Lanham Act lawsuit, my ass:
QUOTE ON
The Most Predominantly Acceptable
ASF (Alt.Seduction.Fast) FAQ
Most recently modified on: March 3, 2002, 12:56 PM, EST
Disclaimer: This FAQ is no more of an official FAQ for the ASF/mASF
(alt.seduction.fast/alt.seduction.fast.*) and newsgroups than any other FAQ
someone might compile. It is merely a collection of opinions of what the
author(s) and contributors believe to be helpful information to ASF
newcomers, organized in a clear and concise way.
QUOTE OFF
If a collection of opinions was actionable, GORK would be in debtor's prison
for the rest of his life.
Vince
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Ray Gordon
>> traffic to a commercial website.
>
>
> free speech newsgroup?
An ad is not a "Group FAQ." I am suing over a "Group FAQ," not an ad.
NlpRapist
ok, but why does he not have the right to post or place an ad in a public
free speech newsgroup?
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
EditorialStaff
>
>> alt.seduction.fast.general (replacement for ASF)
Gordon Roy Parker, The Queen of Torts wrote:
> There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
You have to be hallucinating. You are the single most
delusional individual posting on Usenet in our time. You
even have Edmund Wollman beat.
THIS is NOT "ASF". This is "gordon.roy.parker.wants.attention"
The seduction newsgroups are on another server, from which you
are banned. That way, you cannot disrupt the on topic and very
fruitful conversations going on over there.
You are whining because you aren't getting your way. Here is the
cold, hard truth: What you have to say, is nothing that anyone
wants to hear, and is the single most useless information on
the internet. Everyone knows it.
Now, go get that Psychological Evaluation the COURT ordered
you to get. You need it.
Nutcase...
--
The Editorial Staff
-----
A quote from Gordon Roy Parker, AKA "Ray Gordon":
"(For a dissenting opinion on my character, please visit
the following website: http://members.tripod.com/~rayfaq.html)*
This site contains many lies about me, but as a defender of
free speech I fully support its right to exist."
-Message-ID: <6ertau$76b$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
*The original RayFAQ was removed from the internet as a
result of dozens of complaints from Gordon Roy Parker.
Freedom of Speech is WORTHLESS without Social Responsibility.
Odious
On the contrary, a lot of FAQs list websites with related subject matter.
And ray... "Where did everybody go, and why?" is a frequently asked
question. As such the MASF FAQ is very appropriate, regardless of how much
you dislike it.
Odious
>>>> Main group-related sites:
>>>
>>> There are NO "main, group related sites."
>>>
>>> To claim there are is something that people often sue over as a
>>> violation of the Lanham Act.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is the real problem that you feel is that this group generates income for
>> you and the <snip> posts redirects people you might get income from? Is
>> that it?
>> If so, I would think a judge would say that the <snip> has right to post
>> to a free speech forum and that you are being beaten by better
>> advertising.
>
> I'm claiming that the use of a "USENET FAQ" to divert traffic to a
> commercial website constitutes a violation of the Lanham Act.
And as ususal your claims are based not on fact, but on your delusional
ranting.
> Because two commercial websites are listed in the FAQ, I'm claiming a
> civil conspiracy (in PA that's when two or more entities agree to engage
> in actionable conduct).
LOL! And how does that change anything regarding you being wrong and full
of shit?
> Civil conspiracy is not like RICO in that any actionable conduct is a
> "predicate act" on the state level. To the extent RICO doesn't apply,
> this statute almost certainly will in almost every claim I've stated.
>
> If I consider advertising to be actionable, obviously I'm not going to
> compete with it.
More rationalization of your failure and inability. You can't compete, not
because it is unfair, but because the whole reason MASF exists is so people
can get away from your spam and shit.
It isn't as if you can compete by offering a seduction forum where you can't
post.
Odious
>>>> So, again, what is criminal by posting an ad to a free speech
>>>> newsgroup??
>>>
>>> Not an ad, a "group FAQ." And not criminal, actionable. In my lawsuit,
>>> I explained why I considered it actionable.
>>
>>
>> I'll reread the suit, I'm being totally honest here, I just don't see
>> where an faq is actionable in this forum. Now if you owned this forum,
>> maybe.
>
> That's the point: no one owns the forum. Therefore, no one has special
> standing in the group. The "group FAQ" is enforcable through ISP abuse
> departments and generally relied upon by newbies. It is therefore a very
> influential document.
>
> Most USENET group FAQs just state the community standards for the group
> and what's considered on topic.
Wrong... most FAQs are answers to frequently asked questions. Questions
like, "Hey where did everybody go?" or "Why did most of the regulars move to
a moderated forum?"
You may not like the answers to these questions, but that's hardly
actionable.
Once again you'll be laughed out of court.
> What happens in the group, stays in the group, and that's that.
>
Again WRONG... most FAQs list web sites that are associated with the subject
matter of the group or that house materials relating to the group.
Odious
>> alt.seduction.fast.general (replacement for ASF)
>
> There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
>
And the MASF forum far exceed ASF in quality of information and sound to
noise ratio.
They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
Which is why you hate it so much.
Ray Gordon
>> and what's considered on topic.
>
> Wrong... most FAQs are answers to frequently asked questions. Questions
> like, "Hey where did everybody go?" or "Why did most of the regulars move
> to a moderated forum?"
Total bullshit from Odiot.
> You may not like the answers to these questions, but that's hardly
> actionable.
Odiot the wannabe judge gives his worthless lay opinion.
> Once again you'll be laughed out of court.
Now a worthless legal opinion from Odiot.
>> What happens in the group, stays in the group, and that's that.
>>
>
> Again WRONG... most FAQs list web sites that are associated with the
> subject matter of the group or that house materials relating to the group.
Yet they don't attempt to redirect traffic from the group. The lawsuit's
not going away, much as Odiot seems to hope for that.
Most companies are smart enough not to disparage their competition because
they know that doing so causes them to get sued under the Lanham Act. Some
companies need to be sued before the lesson sinks in, but sink in it will,
eventually.
Ray Gordon
>>
>> There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
>>
>
> noise ratio.
Unsubstantiated subjective assertions....tsk. Besides, commercial websites
are not USENET.
> They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
More unsubstantiated, subjective assertions. As I said, commercial websites
are not USENET.
> Which is why you hate it so much.
Odiot is the only hate-filled one.
He hates that he can't make my lawsuit go away by running his mouth.
Ray Gordon
competitor is what causes Lanham Act lawsuits.
EditorialStaff
We wonder why he snips all of the comments related to his failings?
Could it be that his mental state simply won't allow him to even
acknowledge that they exist, and if he were to quote them, that it
would somehow give more validity to it?
Odious wrote (and Gorke De Loone snipped)
] GRPie wrote this: > I'm claiming that the use of a "USENET FAQ"
] > to divert traffic to a commercial website constitutes a violation
] > of the Lanham Act.
]
] Odious: And as ususal your claims are based not on fact, but on
] your delusional ranting.
]
] GRPie: > Because two commercial websites are listed in the FAQ,
] > I'm claiming a civil conspiracy (in PA that's when two or more
] > entities agree to engage in actionable conduct).
]
] Odious: LOL! And how does that change anything regarding you
] being wrong and full of shit?
]
] GRPie: > Civil conspiracy is not like RICO in that any
] > actionable conduct is a "predicate act" on the state level.
] > To the extent RICO doesn't apply, this statute almost
] > certainly will in almost every claim I've stated. If I
] > consider advertising to be actionable, obviously I'm not
] > going to compete with it.
]
] Odious: More rationalization of your failure and inability.
] You can't compete, not because it is unfair, but because the
] whole reason MASF exists is so people can get away from your
] spam and shit.
]
] It isn't as if you can compete by offering a seduction forum
] where you can't post.
]
This is what Gordon Roy Parker wrote, to which we respond:
> Odiot doesn't seem to get that marketing a website by disparaging
> a competitor is what causes Lanham Act lawsuits.
Gordon Roy Parker doesn't seem to get that this same exact
claim has been DISMISSED more than once. Gordon Roy Parker
doesn't seem to get that he's filed yet another frivolous
lawsuit.
We really can't wait until the second psych eval is ordered.
Wonder what he'll do to duck it then?
NlpRapist
>>>> alt.seduction.fast.general (replacement for ASF)
>>>
>>> There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
>>>
>>
>> And the <snip> forum far exceed ASF in quality of information and sound
>> to noise ratio.
>
> Unsubstantiated subjective assertions....tsk. Besides, commercial
> websites are not USENET.
Bullshit and you know it. There is no advice in this newsgroup. Where there
is over 100 posts a day to that site.
>
>
>> They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
>
> More unsubstantiated, subjective assertions. As I said, commercial
> websites are not USENET.
>
No, just another true statement. Anyone that comes here and goes there can
readily see the huge difference.
NlpRapist
NlpRapist
> Odiot doesn't seem to get that marketing a website by disparaging a
> competitor is what causes Lanham Act lawsuits.
>
>
>
Excuse me? You come to that cause you can't post there?
NlpRapist
NlpRapist
>>>
>>
>> Again WRONG... most FAQs list web sites that are associated with the
>> subject matter of the group or that house materials relating to the
>> group.
>
> Yet they don't attempt to redirect traffic from the group. The lawsuit's
> not going away, much as Odiot seems to hope for that.
So you are saying it is a crime to promote and encourage a website in a
usenet group?
>
> Most companies are smart enough not to disparage their competition because
> they know that doing so causes them to get sued under the Lanham Act.
> Some companies need to be sued before the lesson sinks in, but sink in it
> will, eventually.
>
>
Just HOW is he disparaging you?
NlpRapist
Johannes Seppi
>>>> alt.seduction.fast.general (replacement for ASF)
>>>
>>>There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
>>>
>>
>>And the <snip> forum far exceed ASF in quality of information and sound to
>>noise ratio.
>
>
> Unsubstantiated subjective assertions....tsk. Besides, commercial websites
> are not USENET.
>
the MASF forum is mucht better. Is this opinion subjective? Certainly.
But unsubstantiated? Hardly.
>
>
>>They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
>
>
> More unsubstantiated, subjective assertions. As I said, commercial websites
> are not USENET.
>
Again I second Odious.
>
>
>>Which is why you hate it so much.
>
>
> Odiot is the only hate-filled one.
>
> He hates that he can't make my lawsuit go away by running his mouth.
>
Nobody here needs to make your lawsuit go away, I think the court will
do that just fine.
Johannes
Vince Runza
to
> > noise ratio.
>
> Unsubstantiated subjective assertions....tsk. Besides, commercial
websites
> are not USENET.
No, empirically verified. Suck my nose.
> > They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
>
> More unsubstantiated, subjective assertions. As I said, commercial
websites
> are not USENET.
No, just not open to your crap. Suck my nose.
> > Which is why you hate it so much.
>
> Odiot is the only hate-filled one.
Hmm, how about your 9/11 support of Al Qaeda terrorism? We're talking
florid, screaming hatred from you.
> He hates that he can't make my lawsuit go away by running his mouth.
No, that will be happening sooner than you think. I suggest my prediction
will come true before any of yours, GORK.
Vince
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Ray Gordon
>
> No, that will be happening sooner than you think.
Oooh is that a threat?
Ray Gordon
>>
> Nobody here needs to make your lawsuit go away, I think the court will do
> that just fine.
You base this on your extensive legal knowledge gained through the practice
of law?
Johannes Seppi
extrapolating the past.
Might be wrong, but I think not.
Johannes
HeeroYuy
>>> He hates that he can't make my lawsuit go away by running his mouth.
>>
>> No, that will be happening sooner than you think.
>
> Oooh is that a threat?
I would assume that any SANE person would Vince's statement that as another
"DISMISSED" ruling by a judge. But hey, I could be wrong...
Odious
"NlpRapist" <S...@manchester.com> wrote in message
news:3j1b8tubr5ws4c4.150720050916@IntPC...
I'm still trying to figure out how I'm ray's competition.
The real thing to take note of is how ray can not even stand for anybody to
mention that MASF exists.
He thinks that anybody being able to make a forum where he can't post, or
even to talk about it, is somehow a violation of his rights.
Odious
>>>> alt.seduction.fast.general (replacement for ASF)
>>>
>>> There is no replacement for ASF. This is ASF.
>>>
>>
>> And the <snip> forum far exceed ASF in quality of information and sound
>> to noise ratio.
>
> Unsubstantiated subjective assertions....tsk. Besides, commercial
> websites are not USENET.
>
NO website is usenet... the web runs on a different protocal than usenet.
Now a privately owned NEWS SERVER that runs on Usenet protocol and has
groups you can read through a news reader... that's part of Usenet.
Moron... most news server services have groups you can only access on their
servers. Netcom had groups that were just [Netcom.(group)]. Almost all
news servers have private groups. They are still Usenet groups, ray.
>
>> They did not replace ASF, they surpassed it.
>
> More unsubstantiated, subjective assertions. As I said, commercial
> websites are not USENET.
>
Anybody can go and see for themselves ray.
Why are you so afraid of someone going to MASF and reading how great the
content is?
Why are you so worried about people knowing about the forums at
www.fastseduction.com
>
>> Which is why you hate it so much.
>
> Odiot is the only hate-filled one.
>
I don't hate you ray... I feel pity for you, and occasionally I experience
pure amazement at how incredibly delusional you can be. But hate you, no...
you're just not that important. You're like that stray dog that sometimes
craps in the yard. At most an aggravation.
> He hates that he can't make my lawsuit go away by running his mouth.
>
Why would I wish for your lawsuit to go away? You always lose.
Why should I be worried about you running up legal bills and getting kicked
out of court?
NlpRapist
>>> Odiot doesn't seem to get that marketing a website by disparaging a
>>> competitor is what causes Lanham Act lawsuits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Excuse me? You come to that cause you can't post there?
>>
>>
>> NlpRapist
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how I'm ray's competition.
> The real thing to take note of is how ray can not even stand for anybody
> to mention that MASF exists.
>
> He thinks that anybody being able to make a forum where he can't post, or
> even to talk about it, is somehow a violation of his rights.
I know, they make a place to get away from all the noise that was on this
group and ban all the flamers. Thats a crime somehow.
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
>>> Odiot doesn't seem to get that marketing a website by disparaging a
>>> competitor is what causes Lanham Act lawsuits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Excuse me? You come to that cause you can't post there?
>>
>>
>> NlpRapist
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how I'm ray's competition.
Causing a competitive harm to someone in their business doesn't require one
to be a competitor.
Ray Gordon
>> websites are not USENET.
>>
>
> NO website is usenet... the web runs on a different protocal than usenet.
>
> Now a privately owned NEWS SERVER that runs on Usenet protocol and has
> groups you can read through a news reader... that's part of Usenet.
Only if the groups are available to *all* USENET servers.
Ray Gordon
> group
Once they do that, any such "place" is no longer part of this group.
Promoting a commercial website on USENET is generally considered "noise" or
"SPAM."
georgewv...@yahoo.com
How many irony meters did THAT one cook to a cinder?
EditorialStaff
all attributions...
>
>> NO website is usenet... the web runs on a different protocal
>> than usenet. Now a privately owned NEWS SERVER that runs on
>> Usenet protocol and has groups you can read through a news
>> reader... that's part of Usenet.
To which Gordon Roy Parker misinformedly inanely replied:
>
> Only if the groups are available to *all* USENET servers.
>
You have ALREADY demonstrated your extreme ignorance regarding
how the Internet actually operates, and also your supreme stupidity
in tilting at electronic windmills for failing to explain how the
OWNER of a domain name is responsible for ALL content to which
the domain name points, by failing to address Yogi.
So we're going to give you a lesson that not only are you too
ignorant to get, but too stupid to understand.
Not "*all* USENET servers" carry all newsgroups.
As simple as that statement is, we doubt that Gordon Roy Parker
is able to grasp the full implications of the fact.
We'll leave it to others with greater technical expertise to
try to explain it to him.
But we'd BET that he will flatly ignore that, as he does ALL
factual refutation of the aberrant output of imperfect and
vagarious information dispensed from the abnormal malfunctioning
pit of the mental illness from which he suffers.
Oh, the Calumny!
NlpRapist
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
Where am I doing that?
Johannes Seppi
That's a good one, Ray. But a few weeks of celibacy don't make you a
virgin again.
NlpRapist
Give me a break, you only stopped like 2 weeks ago....before that you ALWAYS
did it.
NlpRapist
Johannes Seppi
Ray is revamping himself as a virgin bride for his lawsuit. I wonder if
anyone will believe him...
Johannes
NlpRapist
>>>>Tell me them how you can link to your site in your posts and thats ok.
>>>
>>>Where am I doing that?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Give me a break, you only stopped like 2 weeks ago....before that you
>> ALWAYS did it.
>>
>>
>> NlpRapist
>
> Ray is revamping himself as a virgin bride for his lawsuit. I wonder if
> anyone will believe him...
I know, in one of his other lawsuits they mentioned he did the same
thing..execute after the fact...was the penn suit I believe when he flooded
them with apps.
>
> Johannes
Ray Gordon
>> anyone will believe him...
>
>
> I know, in one of his other lawsuits they mentioned he did the same
> thing..execute after the fact...was the penn suit I believe when he
> flooded them with apps.
In the Penn case, I was never informed that Penn's position was that I had
to apply for specific jobs. They didn't tell me this, and their website
didn't say it was required, so I had no reason to believe it was "ncessary"
the way they said it was. Once I was made aware of this, I began applying.
You seem to be libeling me by claiming I was not seriously looking for a job
when I submitted those applications, when I most definitely was.
NlpRapist
No, I'm saying you submitted all those apps after you filed suit, which is
what the document stated.
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
>> job when I submitted those applications, when I most definitely was.
>
>
> No, I'm saying you submitted all those apps after you filed suit, which is
> what the document stated.
You ascribed an improper motive, as I had not applied previously because I
was not told I "had" to.
Of course, Tina Vignali didn't have to apply directly for the job SHE got at
Penn during roughly the same time period. According to her lawsuit, a job
was created specifically for her, and according to Penn's response, they
were "aware of her job search" and referred her.
That more or less refutes what Penn claimed in its lawsuit against me (that
one had to apply directly for open positions to find work there). Since
according to Ms. Vignali, no men were considered for the position, that is
the basis for the second EEOC complaint against Penn, for which I already
have a right-to-sue letter.
That suit should be filed in a month or so, resources permitting.
NlpRapist
>>> You seem to be libeling me by claiming I was not seriously looking for a
>>> job when I submitted those applications, when I most definitely was.
>>
>>
>> No, I'm saying you submitted all those apps after you filed suit, which
>> is what the document stated.
>
> You ascribed an improper motive, as I had not applied previously because I
> was not told I "had" to.
Maybe I read the document wrong....I'll reread it tomorrow and get the exact
wording. If I'm wrong I will stand corrected. Otherwise I will post the
wording if I'm right...or maybe I'll be too busy to even waste my time with
it. Its been a suck ass Monday....no pussy all weekend......sigh.
NlpRapist
Odious
Ray, do you comprehend the difference between mentioning a site, discussing
a site, and promoting a site?
Face it, you are just pissed that www.fastseduction.com provides a usenet
group where people don't have to wade through your trolls and spam.
You may not like that there is a moderated version of this group on a
private server. But that's too bad.
>
>
>
Odious
How about these posts....
From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 11 Sep 2001 23:59:06 GMT
Subject: A bunch of asshole New Yorkers died...don't grieve.
Message-ID: <20010911195906.13998.00000984耐mb-fp.aol.com>
No significant loss of life in those Towers....not a one.
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Date: 12 Sep 2001 07:40:20 GMT
Subject: Re: The World Trade Center Pattern.....
Message-ID: <20010912034020.07525.00001077耐mb-fj.aol.com>
"I've had terrorism from at or near that building done to my career. I
didn't
see them crying over what happened to me."
"I think it's poetic: symbols of wealth, power, and corruption get
attacked by
someone, while the rest of America is left alone."
"Were it not for a rather perverted gender bias in the hiring of
secretaries, I
could have been working in that building myself."
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Date: 14 Sep 2001 08:37:07 GMT
Subject: Do Not Mourn Frat-Boy Trader Trash
Message-ID: <20010914043707.15058.00000...@mb-fj.aol.com>
"It is so PATHETIC how we are making angels out of some of the worst
corporate
criminals in America just because they suffered a little bombing."
"Do not mourn the trader trash."
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Date: 14 Sep 2001 13:57:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Do Not Mourn Frat-Boy Trader Trash
Message-ID: <20010914095732.10722.00000...@mb-bk.aol.com>
"That bombing has left no emotional scars on me, which would make me
ideal
psychologically for working in the "war zone," now wouldn't it? You
won't see
ME babbling like a pathetic whining little baby like that CEO on CNBC
did."
"Now now, you'd have to KILL me to shut me up. Got the balls?"
"I don't have to KILL any of my corporate enemies, now do I"
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 14 Sep 2001 00:20:51 GMT
Subject: Re: The "victims" are more unsympathetic by the day....
Message-ID: <20010913202051.23774.00000...@mb-fp.aol.com>
"All I have said is that most of the victims who worked in that building
were not moral creatures. "
"In fact, many of the very powerful types who died in that blast used to
say "let God deal
with them."
"I did."
"God has."
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 11 Sep 2001 18:23:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Twin Towers
Message-ID: <20010911142337.29643.00001...@mb-mg.aol.com>
"Seems I'm not the only one who hates most Americans, am I? "
"I worked in that building. I even faxed a resume within the past year
to a
firm in that building; had I been hired by that firm, I would have been
working
there today."
"Oops. "
"An office whore died in my place."
"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not live in or work
in
because of illegal behavior. I hope those who swiped my ability to live
there
enjoy the message they got from GOD today.........."
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
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From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 12 Sep 2001 00:46:43 GMT
Subject: Tribute To "The Unknown Office Whore" (was: Re: I need a
secretary)
Message-ID: <20010911204643.13998.00001...@mb-fp.aol.com>
"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Their own evil
is what
prevented me from being among the dead, and which added the "Unknown
Office
Whore" to their numbers because god forbid some loser executive would
have to
hire a man."
"Those corporations could have hired me, put me to work in that building,
let me
live in NYC, and experience all of the fun that's going on up there now."
"I kind of like where I live a whole lot more now."
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
______________________________茁_____________________________茁__________
______________________________茁_____________________________茁__________
From: betforaliv...@aol.com (Bet For A Living)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: 13 Sep 2001 20:25:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Hey Nutmeggar, Peanut, Peach....
Message-ID: <20010913162522.23774.00000...@mb-fp.aol.com>
"It's not my fault that Bin Laden unwittingly took out a large segment of
American TRASH, and while I'd never do something like that, I have to say
those
victims were anything but angels."
"They were greedy, capitalistic employment discriminators with no regard
for the
civil rights of anyone but themselves."
"Looks like GOD wanted me around and not them."
"Who am I to question the lord?"
Ray Gordon, Author
The Nice-Guy Graveyard: Where men go to bury their kindness and be the
jerk
women love
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
______________________________茁_____________________________茁__________
Odious
So what harm is done to you or your business by my explaining the definition
of usenet?
Do you think it is somehow against the law to mention the existence of
private usenet groups where you're not allowed to spam?
Are you seriously planning on going into a court of law and saying that
because people say the URL of fastseduction.com that is somehow an unfair
competition that's harming your business???
LOL!!!
Odious
Says who ray? You?
Any newsgroup on any server, public or private, that is accessible through
the nntp protocol is a part of Usenet.
NlpRapist
>>> I know, they make a place to get away from all the noise that was on
>>> this
>>> group
>>
>> Once they do that, any such "place" is no longer part of this group.
>> Promoting a commercial website on USENET is generally considered "noise"
>> or "SPAM."
>
> Ray, do you comprehend the difference between mentioning a site,
> discussing a site, and promoting a site?
No, it doesn't know the difference.
NlpRapist
NlpRapist
>>
>> Causing a competitive harm to someone in their business doesn't require
>> one to be a competitor.
>
> So what harm is done to you or your business by my explaining the
> definition of usenet?
>
> Do you think it is somehow against the law to mention the existence of
> private usenet groups where you're not allowed to spam?
>
> Are you seriously planning on going into a court of law and saying that
> because people say the URL of fastseduction.com that is somehow an unfair
> competition that's harming your business???
>
> LOL!!!
Its going to be a real debacle (misspelled?). If he does manage to get RJ
into court....well....to be honest I would not sue RJ if I even had a case
against him. The man scares me in that I wouldn't want him as an
enemy....laughing.
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
> into court....well....to be honest I would not sue RJ if I even had a case
> against him. The man scares me in that I wouldn't want him as an
> enemy....laughing.
Are you advising me to withdraw my case?
Your post has a threatening tone to it.
jjt
BLAH..BLAH..BLAH..BLAH..BLAH..
Just more "inexcusable failure.." from a child molester
who can't back up his herpes infested doll kissing spout..
JJT
You're nobody till Ray Gordon fears you..
You're nobody till grp-ie spews you a threat..
Afraid in 'ray-world', in Mommie's abode, all alone, getting old..
while his threats are all "..inexcusable failures.."
...by a Judge, we are told...
'ray-ality' still is quite insane
You'll never understand it
As long all his threats are impotent bluffs !
You're nobody till Ray Gordon fears you..
And Gordon Roy Parker fears everyone......
NlpRapist
>> Its going to be a real debacle (misspelled?). If he does manage to get RJ
>> into court....well....to be honest I would not sue RJ if I even had a
>> case against him. The man scares me in that I wouldn't want him as an
>> enemy....laughing.
>
> Are you advising me to withdraw my case?
Was I speaking to YOU. No, I was having a conversation with Odious.
>
> Your post has a threatening tone to it.
Only you see that...you think everything is a threat.
NlpRapist
Odious
"NlpRapist" <S...@manchester.com> wrote in message
news:azfsjaeunhpmiiv.280720050944@IntPC...
>
>>> Its going to be a real debacle (misspelled?). If he does manage to get
>>> RJ
>>> into court....well....to be honest I would not sue RJ if I even had a
>>> case against him. The man scares me in that I wouldn't want him as an
>>> enemy....laughing.
>>
>> Are you advising me to withdraw my case?
>
>
> Was I speaking to YOU. No, I was having a conversation with Odious.
>
Ray hates being left out. When people talk about him, yet not to him, it
reminds him of his mother and her boyfriends. He really can't deal with it.
>>
>> Your post has a threatening tone to it.
>
>
> Only you see that...you think everything is a threat.
That makes him feel important.
A narcissist tends to see things as threats, rather than ridicule, because
their ego can't deal with the ridicule. Whereas threats make them feel
important and powerful. So they tend to reframe things as threats.
Ray Gordon
NlpRapist
> Was he?
>
>
>
Where you?
Ray Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>
> Where you?
The last time I was in Montreal was for the olympics in 1976.
Somehow I don't think this would have compared.
NlpRapist
Did you get an invitation?
NlpRapist
Ray Gordon
>>
>> The last time I was in Montreal was for the olympics in 1976.
>>
>> Somehow I don't think this would have compared.
>
>
> Did you get an invitation?
Did Ross?
q
HeeroYuy
I'll take Gordon trying to avoid answering the question as "no."