Well there have been a number of studies on these animals - and of course they
don't neccesarily apply to anything other than birds but they are interesting
never the less.
It is the complexity of the song that attracts females. There is a direct
correlation between song complexity and number of mates. That's it, but the
question is why?
Well speculation is that the notes cause neurons to fire in the females brain
(well that is obvious if you are listening neuros will be fired), the more
complex the song, the more neurons get fired off. Effectively a complex song
causes some kind of brainstorm in the female basically getting her horny and
ready to mate with the singer.
But why complex songs? A sign of both reproductive health and maturity.
I notice some PUAs on this group use very complex stories as part of their PU
routine or of course there are always those controversial patterns. I wonder if
this is basically a similar mechanism. General chat doesn't do too much for a
girl, neither does bombarding her with facts (e.g. what job do you do). You
somehow need to push over a limit to get those neurons firing off like machine
guns, just like our songbird.
Well that's my pop-science
David
David Off wrote:
> I was listening to a fascinating program on songbirds and their mating songs.
> Basically songbirds rely exclusively on their songs to attract a mate - no
> looks, size, big tail feathers or any of that shit, just plain belting out a
> song from the highest branch. Female songbirds don't sing, they have no need
> to, they just listen.
Canaries, mockingbirds, and sparrows are but three breeds of THOUSANDS of species
of aves. And I'll have you know, that female songbirds DO sing. Go watch birds
outside, not on the TV.
>
> Well there have been a number of studies on these animals - and of course they
> don't neccesarily apply to anything other than birds but they are interesting
> never the less.
Yes, but you are trying to compare songs of birds to SS patterns. You just negated
your own arguement.
>
>
> It is the complexity of the song that attracts females. There is a direct
> correlation between song complexity and number of mates.
You're forgetting physical health and symmetry, feather quality, and social stature
within the flock. None of these factors are determined by the song, nor can a
bird's song reflect these characteristics.
>
> That's it, but the
> question is why?
Because that's the way DNA designed it.
>
>
> Well speculation is that the notes cause neurons to fire in the females brain
> (well that is obvious if you are listening neuros will be fired), the more
> complex the song, the more neurons get fired off. Effectively a complex song
> causes some kind of brainstorm in the female basically getting her horny and
> ready to mate with the singer.
SOOooo wrong. If it worked this way, there would be ONE male in the flock fucking
all of the females. You reveal a desire to control women hypnotically. You're
forgetting that the female has to be RECEPTIVE. You might argue that a real PUA
really can hypnotize a woman and lead her to the bedroom, but not if she's not
receptive to it.
>
>
> But why complex songs? A sign of both reproductive health and maturity.
Nope. Sometimes birds are just stoked on life, and sing, sing, sing.
>
>
> I notice some PUAs on this group use very complex stories as part of their PU
> routine or of course there are always those controversial patterns. I wonder if
> this is basically a similar mechanism.
NO. Despite any screens you think you may have removed, women still have
standards. A guy might have pattering down perfectly, but if he's 5'3", 120 lbs,
pizza faced and unshowered with bad breath, he don't stand a fucking chance.
> General chat doesn't do too much for a
> girl, neither does bombarding her with facts (e.g. what job do you do). You
> somehow need to push over a limit to get those neurons firing off like machine
> guns, just like our songbird.
The thing is here, Dave, that patterning a chick requires MUTUAL EXCHANGE. You are
suggesting that the birds work one way. GO BIRDWATCHING!!! If you can go to a
park with tons of them, you might be suprised to find that birds' breeding
behaviour is EXACTLY LIKE OURS, MUTUAL. You will see silent runts and "alphas"
alike getting birdy pussy. You will see females singing, and rejecting the best
singers.
While we're on the subject of birds on this NG, I just have to mention that 75% of
all species of birds are MONOGAMISTS!!!
Kent X <iamfu...@yourmommashouse.com> wrote in message
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>
> While we're on the subject of birds on this NG, I just have to mention
that 75% of
> all species of birds are MONOGAMISTS!!!
But I thought DNA testing had shown this to be incorrect and that these
Monogamist birds were really fucking around like... erm humans! Indeed I
remember seeing some kind of Discovery channel program with that David
Attenborough bloke (wasn't he also in Jurassic Park?) and there was this
little Chaffinch or something shagging away with some rogue mail PUA bird
under a bush while the Chaffinch's AFC mate was tweeting around looking for
her. Guess who had to fetch all the worms though.
David
lol this is very funny :) I agree that birds songs are not unlike
patterns...
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Barash said numerous recent studies have shown that many animals and birds,
such as eagles, geese, beavers and gibbons, previously believed to be
faithfully monogamous aren't.
Read the post.
Kakol