Of all the terms pathetic male bullies try to use against other males, "Waldo" is like a microcosm. It's a funny-sounding name, which to anyone whose reasoning abilities stopped in junior high school, seems to imply that somehow the guy with that name has to be clueless and inept.
Now in a strip club, you have the advantage of the stripper wanting to approach you to get your money, and that puts the burden on her to impress you. There are two "waldo" techniques you can run on strippers. The first is to go in there with a guy who is preferably of Baltic or Slavic (or German) descent, and who is obviously buff and really good-looking. Engage the stripper, throw in a derogatory remark about the other customers being "Waldos," and when you introduce her to your friend, you say "this is WALDO."
The other application of this technique is to ignore her, act slightly bothered when she approaches you, not tip her at first (make her waste a minute or two for the dollar), and if she asks why you're "so mean," say something like "I don't waste energy hating people." If she continues to pry, when you are ready to clue her in on why she doesn't impress you (i.e., why you aren't tipping her -- you can hoard some cash in your wallet if you really want to tease her), just say "You think I'm a Waldo."
At this point she'll freak out, not because she's ashamed of what she thinks (if she even thinks it), but because she wasn't able to hide it. By telling her this, you have set the frame where you have no reason to tip her, and she can't have this. She also doesn't want you thinking this of her, but there's very little she can do about it.
I had a stripper glued to me ALL NIGHT once at a club, where I didn't even tip her a dime, just because I used that line. She would come back to me after going on stage and whenever she had downtime, all the while trying to "prove" that she "wasn't like that." Any "secret society" members know that when a chick says she's not like that that she is like that.
So right before I'm about to leave, I get my coat, and she asks if I'm about to leave. I barely acknowledged her, but paused long enough to run a little last bit of game on her. She had mentioned that I should have tried a dance (yeah like I was going to), and I said "well, the stuff I want isn't on the menu at these clubs." (good way to remind them that their lap dances aren't worth shit). Then I paused for a minute, and said "You know what's fucked up? If I'm a customer here, you girls can't fuck me, but if I meet you at a club, you can. The guys who spend the most money on you get the least."
She comes back with the normal speech about how the management won't let them date customers, and I said, "Oh I know, but a guy would have to be out of his mind to be a customer if he's less likely to get laid. Come to think of it, when I go over to <bar down the street> I won't be a customer, and if I meet any strippers there, I think I'll fuck them." (I said this playfully).
Yes, she showed up at the other bar. Unfortunately, she wasn't that pretty under the "ugly lights." I made out with her some but did not do the deed (also had STD concerns and I generally require a stripper to be tested before I'd do anything).
See, when the players call you a "Waldo," the women know that if they endorse it, you're going to call them a slut who just likes jerks. They can't have that, which is why the only place you'll generally see them do that is a "sausage party" message board like this one.
The men forget that women want the reputation that comes with being a good girl, and with taunts like that, they are harming the reputation of the women by portraying them in this way, and leaving them little choice but to prove them wrong, even if they have to fuck a "Waldo" to do it.
-- Ray Gordon, Author http://www.cybersheet.com/easy.html Seduction Made Easy. Get this book FREE when you buy any participating affiliated book!
> -- > Ray Gordon, Author > http://www.cybersheet.com/easy.html > Seduction Made Easy. Get this book FREE when you buy any participating > affiliated book!
> Of all the terms pathetic male bullies try to use against other males, > "Waldo" is like a microcosm. It's a funny-sounding name, which to > anyone whose reasoning abilities stopped in junior high school, seems > to imply that somehow the guy with that name has to be clueless and > inept.
> Now in a strip club, you have the advantage of the stripper wanting to > approach you to get your money, and that puts the burden on her to > impress you. There are two "waldo" techniques you can run on > strippers. The first is to go in there with a guy who is preferably > of Baltic or Slavic (or German) descent, and who is obviously buff and > really good-looking. Engage the stripper, throw in a derogatory > remark about the other customers being "Waldos," and when you > introduce her to your friend, you say "this is WALDO."
> The other application of this technique is to ignore her, act slightly > bothered when she approaches you, not tip her at first (make her waste > a minute or two for the dollar), and if she asks why you're "so mean," > say something like "I don't waste energy hating people." If she > continues to pry, when you are ready to clue her in on why she doesn't > impress you (i.e., why you aren't tipping her -- you can hoard some > cash in your wallet if you really want to tease her), just say "You > think I'm a Waldo."
> At this point she'll freak out, not because she's ashamed of what she > thinks (if she even thinks it), but because she wasn't able to hide > it. By telling her this, you have set the frame where you have no > reason to tip her, and she can't have this. She also doesn't want you > thinking this of her, but there's very little she can do about it.
> I had a stripper glued to me ALL NIGHT once at a club, where I didn't > even tip her a dime, just because I used that line. She would come > back to me after going on stage and whenever she had downtime, all the > while trying to "prove" that she "wasn't like that." Any "secret > society" members know that when a chick says she's not like that that > she is like that.
> So right before I'm about to leave, I get my coat, and she asks if I'm > about to leave. I barely acknowledged her, but paused long enough to > run a little last bit of game on her. She had mentioned that I should > have tried a dance (yeah like I was going to), and I said "well, the > stuff I want isn't on the menu at these clubs." (good way to remind > them that their lap dances aren't worth shit). Then I paused for a > minute, and said "You know what's fucked up? If I'm a customer here, > you girls can't fuck me, but if I meet you at a club, you can. The > guys who spend the most money on you get the least."
> She comes back with the normal speech about how the management won't > let them date customers, and I said, "Oh I know, but a guy would have > to be out of his mind to be a customer if he's less likely to get > laid. Come to think of it, when I go over to <bar down the street> I > won't be a customer, and if I meet any strippers there, I think I'll > fuck them." (I said this playfully).
> Yes, she showed up at the other bar. Unfortunately, she wasn't that > pretty under the "ugly lights." I made out with her some but did not > do the deed (also had STD concerns and I generally require a stripper > to be tested before I'd do anything).
> See, when the players call you a "Waldo," the women know that if they > endorse it, you're going to call them a slut who just likes jerks. > They can't have that, which is why the only place you'll generally see > them do that is a "sausage party" message board like this one.
> The men forget that women want the reputation that comes with being a > good girl, and with taunts like that, they are harming the reputation > of the women by portraying them in this way, and leaving them little > choice but to prove them wrong, even if they have to fuck a "Waldo" to > do it.
I wish I felt that I could believe this... well, story I guess. Unfortunately, since you continually refuse to provide verifiable evidence that your rather odd 'seduction methods' actually work in the real world and since from your previous posts and indeed this post I feel that you have absolutely no understanding of women (believe it or not, strippers are women) I just can't believe it without some kind of verifiable evidence. And that's really a shame since you obviously spent so much time crafting this... well, story I guess.
-- KTO
------------------ Everything I post is my opinion. If you don't like my opinions then killfile me, if you have the balls.
> > Of all the terms pathetic male bullies try to use against other males, > > "Waldo" is like a microcosm. It's a funny-sounding name, which to > > anyone whose reasoning abilities stopped in junior high school, seems > > to imply that somehow the guy with that name has to be clueless and > > inept.
> > Now in a strip club, you have the advantage of the stripper wanting to > > approach you to get your money, and that puts the burden on her to > > impress you. There are two "waldo" techniques you can run on > > strippers. The first is to go in there with a guy who is preferably > > of Baltic or Slavic (or German) descent, and who is obviously buff and > > really good-looking. Engage the stripper, throw in a derogatory > > remark about the other customers being "Waldos," and when you > > introduce her to your friend, you say "this is WALDO."
> > The other application of this technique is to ignore her, act slightly > > bothered when she approaches you, not tip her at first (make her waste > > a minute or two for the dollar), and if she asks why you're "so mean," > > say something like "I don't waste energy hating people." If she > > continues to pry, when you are ready to clue her in on why she doesn't > > impress you (i.e., why you aren't tipping her -- you can hoard some > > cash in your wallet if you really want to tease her), just say "You > > think I'm a Waldo."
> > At this point she'll freak out, not because she's ashamed of what she > > thinks (if she even thinks it), but because she wasn't able to hide > > it. By telling her this, you have set the frame where you have no > > reason to tip her, and she can't have this. She also doesn't want you > > thinking this of her, but there's very little she can do about it.
> > I had a stripper glued to me ALL NIGHT once at a club, where I didn't > > even tip her a dime, just because I used that line. She would come > > back to me after going on stage and whenever she had downtime, all the > > while trying to "prove" that she "wasn't like that." Any "secret > > society" members know that when a chick says she's not like that that > > she is like that.
> > So right before I'm about to leave, I get my coat, and she asks if I'm > > about to leave. I barely acknowledged her, but paused long enough to > > run a little last bit of game on her. She had mentioned that I should > > have tried a dance (yeah like I was going to), and I said "well, the > > stuff I want isn't on the menu at these clubs." (good way to remind > > them that their lap dances aren't worth shit). Then I paused for a > > minute, and said "You know what's fucked up? If I'm a customer here, > > you girls can't fuck me, but if I meet you at a club, you can. The > > guys who spend the most money on you get the least."
> > She comes back with the normal speech about how the management won't > > let them date customers, and I said, "Oh I know, but a guy would have > > to be out of his mind to be a customer if he's less likely to get > > laid. Come to think of it, when I go over to <bar down the street> I > > won't be a customer, and if I meet any strippers there, I think I'll > > fuck them." (I said this playfully).
> > Yes, she showed up at the other bar. Unfortunately, she wasn't that > > pretty under the "ugly lights." I made out with her some but did not > > do the deed (also had STD concerns and I generally require a stripper > > to be tested before I'd do anything).
> > See, when the players call you a "Waldo," the women know that if they > > endorse it, you're going to call them a slut who just likes jerks. > > They can't have that, which is why the only place you'll generally see > > them do that is a "sausage party" message board like this one.
> > The men forget that women want the reputation that comes with being a > > good girl, and with taunts like that, they are harming the reputation > > of the women by portraying them in this way, and leaving them little > > choice but to prove them wrong, even if they have to fuck a "Waldo" to > > do it.
> I wish I felt that I could believe this... well, story I guess. > Unfortunately, since you continually refuse to provide verifiable evidence > that your rather odd 'seduction methods' actually work in the real world > and since from your previous posts and indeed this post I feel that you > have absolutely no understanding of women (believe it or not, strippers are > women) I just can't believe it without some kind of verifiable evidence. > And that's really a shame since you obviously spent so much time crafting > this... well, story I guess.
> --
it was "abusive" towards lame-freaks in chyckworld when *i* used the term "waldo". ray picks up on this term that i coined (with no credit given, of course) and runs with it like they were going to make it illegal tomorrow. right after he goes off on his latest tear about those double standards he rails about when it suits his sick needs.
what a hypocrite. he's still stinging from his "field report" ripping i gave him. speaking of that didn't he say (or did i read it wrong) that the chyck sat behind him and then also said that she sat *next to* him?
i guess i should check that but i have to work for a living and don't have time for it tonight.
Krus T. Olfard wrote: > Unfortunately, since you continually refuse to provide verifiable evidence > that your rather odd 'seduction methods' actually work in the real world > and since from your previous posts and indeed this post I feel that you > have absolutely no understanding of women (believe it or not, strippers are > women) I just can't believe it without some kind of verifiable evidence. > And that's really a shame since you obviously spent so much time crafting > this... well, story I guess.
It's a story, for the following reasons:
1. Strippers are not playing games when they work. They're there just for the money. Every guy is a dollar sign. I dated a few and they were all the same.
2. A man who has no job, usually doesn't have money to go to a strip joint or a bar.
3. A stripper doesn't chase you because you seemed "cool". The "I come here, but I'm not like the other guys" BS does not work, especially since he didn't tip her.
4. It's hard to score with chics when you live in a small apartment with your mother, especially when you're as old as he is. The "She lives with me" crap doesn't stck.
> i don't get that gordon guy...i am new here and this looks like he is a > crook and knows nothing...did anyone test his stuff, or is he just a > fat bum sitting at home beating his meat and writing fiction stories?
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