my first sarge, one part great, the other part sucks
Arawn
friend, and he invited me there. it was some sort of club, with rock,
hip hop and other music. there are two places there, the pub and the
dance floor, who aren't connected, but in a separate building
(entrances are 5 meters away from each other). we were in the pub, and
a girl from a class he's in, came there with a friend. i was shocked.
she's a HB and i was totally attracted to her. she has beautiful eyes,
and i started making my moves. i first asked her silly questions (like
was said to me in another subject), and she started to open a real
conversation. after a (got to the dancefloor with everybody) while i
read her hand (I'm a witch, i already knew how to do that), and then i
nagged her a little bit. after a while she started touching my arm and
the side of my body, so i indicated that as a IOI, and then she wanted
to dance with me, and she started dancing closer and closer, which i
saw as another IOI. her eyes changed when she was talking to me, and
when i left for the bathroom, she started looking for me. after a
while, my best friend took me outside, and told me he liked this girl
for a few weeks already, and he tried to make her like him (which
wasn't working, she only sees him as a friend). i said i would try to
avoid her a bit. we were sitting on the stairs in front of the
buildings, and she came to us, she started sitting next to me and she
complained it was so cold, i ignored her for a bit (which wasn't
working off course, she came begging for attention). i tried to avoid
her for a half an hour, and hen she tried to kiss me, and again and
again, till she tried it for about 15 times, but i didn't kiss her
back, even though i wanted it really really really really bad. i knew
my friend would see it and be pissed off. but i smoked a lot of weed
and was also drunk, and one thing led to another, and we were kissing
while i had my hands on her butt. at that time, my best friend walked
over me, to talk to me, but instead of that, he saw me kissing her, and
my hands on her ass. he was totally pissed off.
we had a long conversation after we left the party (earlier then was
planned, because he was pissed off (i didn't mind, i knew she would
leave 10 minutes later anyway)), and i knew he was pissed off.
i really don't know what to do now, he really likes, her, but she sees
him as a friend, and i was the Alpha in the group, and she liked me
(the other girl liked me too, but she wasn't pretty, so she started
kissing with the other friend of mine), but i don't want to loose my
best friend over a girl.
damn she has a nice ass, and pretty eyes.
greetz,
me
Arawn
p.s. 2 i'm not some sort of newbie wiccan, but a witch, there is a
difference.
Now Im Confused
> i first asked her silly questions (like was said to me in another
> subject), and she started to open a real conversation. after a (got
> to the dancefloor with everybody) while i read her hand (I'm a
> witch, i already knew how to do that), and then i nagged her a
> little bit.
Wouldn't that make you are Warlock?
What was your reasoning for negging her?
> after a while she started touching my arm and the side of my body,
> so i indicated that as a IOI, and then she wanted to dance with me,
> and she started dancing closer and closer, which i saw as another
> IOI. her eyes changed when she was talking to me, and when i left
> for the bathroom, she started looking for me. after a while, my best
> friend took me outside, and told me he liked this girl for a few
> weeks already, and he tried to make her like him (which wasn't
> working, she only sees him as a friend). i said i would try to avoid
> her a bit.
Damn, couple of weeks, not going to happen after that. I hope he will
be cool and let you make your to this HB.
> [my best friend] saw me kissing her, and my hands on her ass. he was
> totally pissed off.
>
Shouldn't he be giving you props?
> i really don't know what to do now, he really likes, her, but she
> sees him as a friend, and i was the Alpha in the group, and she
> liked me (the other girl liked me too, but she wasn't pretty, so she
> started kissing with the other friend of mine), but i don't want to
> loose my best friend over a girl.
>
Not to be a jerk, but what kind of friend is he that he would be so
spiteful as to remove from you a chance, that he doesn't have? He
can't get the girl, so now he doesn't want you to?
> damn she has a nice ass, and pretty eyes.
>
And you will get both.
--
The guy who fails at the game is the one who
goes out looking for women to make him
feel good about himself.
The guy who succeeds at the game is the one
who goes out and makes other people feel good
about themselves. - Style
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
Go for the girl. Have sex in front of him if at all possible. Under NO
circumstances should you put this other guy ahead of this woman.
If he has a problem with it he can fuck off. Do not budge on this.
--
Ray Gordon, Author
The OFFICIAL Ray Gordon Blog:
http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
Arawn
as i said, he's my best friend, and over a girl? hmm he wins.
greetz,
me
On 21 jan, 12:29, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
> > damn she has a nice ass, and pretty eyes.Go for the girl. Have sex in front of him if at all possible. Under NO
dracozna
> "Arawn" <pose...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> i first asked her silly questions (like was said to me in another
>> subject), and she started to open a real conversation. after a (got
>> to the dancefloor with everybody) while i read her hand (I'm a
>> witch, i already knew how to do that), and then i nagged her a
>> little bit.
>
> Wouldn't that make you are Warlock?
>
AFAIK a male witch is still called a witch, a warlock was something else.
> What was your reasoning for negging her?
>
>> after a while she started touching my arm and the side of my body,
>> so i indicated that as a IOI, and then she wanted to dance with me,
>> and she started dancing closer and closer, which i saw as another
>> IOI. her eyes changed when she was talking to me, and when i left
>> for the bathroom, she started looking for me. after a while, my best
>> friend took me outside, and told me he liked this girl for a few
>> weeks already, and he tried to make her like him (which wasn't
>> working, she only sees him as a friend). i said i would try to avoid
>> her a bit.
>
> Damn, couple of weeks, not going to happen after that. I hope he will
> be cool and let you make your to this HB.
>
Yes it's difficult to understand that for a lot of guys. Wouldn't be the
first time guys are arguing over a girl.
>> [my best friend] saw me kissing her, and my hands on her ass. he was
>> totally pissed off.
>>
>
> Shouldn't he be giving you props?
>
>
>> i really don't know what to do now, he really likes, her, but she
>> sees him as a friend, and i was the Alpha in the group, and she
>> liked me (the other girl liked me too, but she wasn't pretty, so she
>> started kissing with the other friend of mine), but i don't want to
>> loose my best friend over a girl.
>>
>
> Not to be a jerk, but what kind of friend is he that he would be so
> spiteful as to remove from you a chance, that he doesn't have? He
> can't get the girl, so now he doesn't want you to?
>
happens more then you'd think. But at least Arawn was a bit more honest
by showing his friend that things don't work like he wants to. Be it a
bit cruel.
The way I see it Arawn should try to explain that his friend didn't have
a change. But if someone knew how to do that without breaking his
friendship he should post it. I could use the advice too, already have
seen best buddies becoming worst enemy's over a girl.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/21/07 6:29 AM:
Spoken like a true malignant narcissist who has no friends.
Alex
ne...@dracozna.nl wrote on 1/21/07 10:33 AM:
> But if someone knew how to do that without breaking his
> friendship he should post it. I could use the advice too, already have
> seen best buddies becoming worst enemy's over a girl.
As long as women are seen as scarce and each individual woman is overvalued,
this won't change.
Krus T. Olfard
$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:
>
> The way I see it Arawn should try to explain that his friend didn't
have
> a change. But if someone knew how to do that without breaking his
> friendship he should post it. I could use the advice too, already have
> seen best buddies becoming worst enemy's over a girl.
>
>
Unless I've misread what he posted basically he can have either the girl
or the friend.
He just has to decide which has the most value to him.
--
Krustavus Teofilus Olfard
------------------
Everything I post is my opinion. If you don't like my opinions then
killfile me, if you have the balls.
BTW: If there is one clear rule in this world, it's "Do NOT stick your
finger in the ancient alien coffin."
HeeroYuy
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:UeOdncIBms0q0y7Y...@pghconnect.com...
And Gordon wonders why he can't find anyone to respect him. Dude, not even a
woman is worth the cost of losing your best friend.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>
> as i said, he's my best friend, and over a girl? hmm he wins.
You'll likely regret the decision, admirable as it may be.
HeeroYuy
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:QridnRls05qILC7Y...@pghconnect.com...
>> ray,
>>
>> as i said, he's my best friend, and over a girl? hmm he wins.
>
> You'll likely regret the decision, admirable as it may be.
Then again, Gordon doesn't know the meaning of "friend," so his opinion is
not credible.
Old Fart
>You'll likely regret the decision, admirable as it may be.
------------- Gordon Roy Parker on the day of 9/11 ------------------
>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Not
>>a one."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not
>>live in or work in because of illegal behavior. I hope those
>>who swiped my ability to live there enjoy the message they got from GOD
>>today.........."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"In that building existed little more than a bunch of companies
>>which hire "office whores" and the like. I have no sympathy for
>>employment discriminators, and if someone had to die in this attack, I
>>couldn't think of a better group of people for the terrorists to pick."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"Now you know what it's like to see your horrors mocked the way mine
>>have been. That's not mental illness, that's a political message,
>>apparently delivered quite brilliantly."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001
>>"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Their own
>>evil is what prevented me from being among the dead, and which added the
>>"Unknown Office Whore" to their numbers because god forbid some loser
>>executive would have to hire a man.Those corporations could have hired
>>me, put me to work in that building, let me live in NYC, and experience
>>all of the fun that's going on up there now."
>> - Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11
Arawn
complete idiot.
i had my friend over for dinner today, and everything is cool now. he
still wouldn't like to see me go out with her (if it happends), but i
had to promise him that if it did, i'd have to tell him first.
thank you guys for the advices.
Greetz,
Arawn.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> complete idiot.
The guy you are responding to was rejected for 10 years by the "love of his
life" and she finally gave him his chance when no other men wanted her
anymore.
If you think you're so smart, why seek advice in the first place? Guys like
this come back a year later wondering where they went wrong, when usually
they go wrong by judging those who advise them emotionally rather than
logically, and on topics they know nothing about, no less.
>
> i had my friend over for dinner today, and everything is cool now. he
> still wouldn't like to see me go out with her (if it happends), but i
> had to promise him that if it did, i'd have to tell him first.
You just gave that man your balls. I can assure you he wouldn't extend you
the samie courtesy if the situation were reversed.
Tell the chick about this agreement and you'd never get her because she'd
think you were a wuss.
Old Fart
>> complete idiot.
>The guy you are responding to was rejected for 10 years by the "love of his
>life" and she finally gave him his chance when no other men wanted her
>anymore.
The loser who just typed that has his facts wrong, and is a self-praised,
herpes infested child molesting hate monger. Who has no woman in his life.
JJTj
------ Gordon Roy Parker threatening children, the sick and elderly --------
>>Subject: Re: May Lissa's Mom DIE PAINFULLY ANDROT IN HELL****
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:13:02 -0600
>>From: ray...@hotmail.com
>>Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
>>Newsgroups: alt.sports.gymnastics
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> ****Disclaimer: I was discriminated against on the basis of
>>gender today and told point-blank that this was the reason. Having been
>>taunted by the WHOREDENS and by Lissa over this, I consider it only fair
>>to return similar sentiments. When I get a full apology from Lissa, and
>>from Dave, and his website and RayFAQ go down, I will CONSIDER changing
>>my attitude.
>> Ray, first of all STOP CURSING, KIDS READ THIS TOO!! Dave, lol!
>>HA HAHA! dang! oh shit! maaaaaan...! lol! hmmmaaaa! Ray's gonna sue you!
>>looool!!!! [laughing] shit.... hire me as your lawyer. he he ha ha ha...
>>loooll
>> <----Stop Cursing? FUCK YOU. FUCK GYMNAST WHORES TOO. They
>>know DAMN well what goes on and what harmed me and they LAUGH at it.
>>May they all do a GOMEZ on vault and have the ambulance do a GRIVICH on
>>the way to the hospital if they are going to laugh at my career road
>>blocks, sexual road blocks that they CLAIM to disapprove of...except
>>when they need a job, so then it's okay to show a little ass, as long as
>>the boss doesn't try to touch that ass. FUCK THEM. They're moral
>>GARBAGE! They know it too; that's why they can't stand hearing it; if
>>it weren't true they wouldn't care. They're good for ONE THING and ONE
>>THING only, and they know that too. If they want me to be nice to them,
>>let them undo a few years of damage and apologize for THEIR attitudes.
>>They bring this shit on themselves with their arrogance. Spoiled BRATS.
>> You think my suing Dave and Dominique is a joke? Keep laughing.
>>Please. I'd love it if you did. You want to be Dave's lawyer? Go right
>>ahead. You punks think this is playtime; you're in for an awfully rude
>>shock. I gave fair warning. Dave(and Dominique through Dave) said "Go
>>for it." I will. I'll go for every last ounce of gold that resides in
>>both their scumbag pockets.
>> See, I was being a NICE GUY about this before. I decided not to
>>be NICE anymore. I get really FUCKING PISSED OFFwhen people mock my
>>pain, enough to where I start focusing my energy on THEIR pain. Lissa's
>>pain. The pain of watching her mother die the same death my secretarial
>>career died. Yes, that death. I know what it's like to watch something
>>you love die. Watching my father die right in front of my eyes at age
>>12 wasn't as painful as watching women get sexually harassed by their
>>bosses, but that was nothing compared to the pain of seeing women mock
>>the issue, like it were okay, like they couldn't have the courage to do
>>the right thing.
>> Lissa, watch your mom fade away and think of mycareer, and then
>>think of the fact that I can revive my career. Noone will be able to
>>revive your mom. No one. She's DYING, and she's DYING slowly. Does she
>>even remember your name anymore? I don't think so.....you think Dave's
>>such a nice guy? I don't. Hedoes that page for you, Missy, Dominique,
>>and all those wonderful girls who worship him. You think he's going to
>>get away with it? He's not. If you want to see God's punishment for your
>>treatment of me, watch it in your mom.
>> My last spell went to Jaycie's knees. She still competing?
>>Nope. The next one goes to Lissa's mom. Note her condition today and
>>see how she progresses from here. Don't mess with a psychic. After
>>this one is done I'll start REALLY wishing for some Gomez action on the
>>vault, and I'll start naming names and focusing ALL of my psychic energy
>>on it.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> circumstances should you put this other guy ahead of this woman.
>>
>> If he has a problem with it he can fuck off. Do not budge on this.
>>
>
> Spoken like a true malignant narcissist who has no friends.
Alex needs to get out of that RTF more...all that time spent with life's
TRUE fuck-ups has him playing lay psychologist again it seems.
Johannes Seppi
\"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>>> Go for the girl. Have sex in front of him if at all possible. Under NO
>>> circumstances should you put this other guy ahead of this woman.
>>>
>>> If he has a problem with it he can fuck off. Do not budge on this.
>>>
>>
>> Spoken like a true malignant narcissist who has no friends.
>
>Alex needs to get out of that RTF more...all that time spent with life's
>TRUE fuck-ups has him playing lay psychologist again it seems.
While a social recluse like you produces gems like this one, Ray?
<hsKdndNGv9N-MSnY...@pghconnect.com>
I'd be hard put to find someone I'd be less inclined to ask for advice
on social interactions than you.
Johannes
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> I'd be hard put to find someone I'd be less inclined to ask for advice
> on social interactions than you.
Any man who doesn't want to learn how to fuck a 10 (hint: being nice doesn't
do it) is free to ignore my advice and stick to his 8s.
He'd show me!!
DarkKobold
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> > I'd be hard put to find someone I'd be less inclined to ask for advice
> > on social interactions than you.
>
> Any man who doesn't want to learn how to fuck a 10 (hint: being nice doesn't
> do it) is free to ignore my advice and stick to his 8s.
Internet props!
Proof?
Johannes Seppi
\"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd be hard put to find someone I'd be less inclined to ask for advice
>> on social interactions than you.
>
>Any man who doesn't want to learn how to fuck a 10 (hint: being nice doesn't
>do it) is free to ignore my advice and stick to his 8s.
>
Ah, but you snipped this:
--------
Spoken like a true malignant narcissist who has no friends.
-------
and this:
--------
While a social recluse like you produces gems like this one, Ray?
--------
>He'd show me!!
Yes, anybody getting an 8 would show you! In fact, anyone having
contact with any woman gets more than you can ever dream of.
Johannes
Krus T. Olfard
news:-MydnWplzddGmyjY...@pghconnect.com:
>
>> I'd be hard put to find someone I'd be less inclined to ask for
>> advice on social interactions than you.
>
> Any man who doesn't want to learn how to fuck a 10 (hint: being nice
> doesn't do it) is free to ignore my advice and stick to his 8s.
>
> He'd show me!!
>
Once again the gordy loser makes a claim by implication that he has never
ever managed to show to be true but then it's only to be expected as
gordy has never ever provided verifiable evidence that his lame
'seduction theories' actually work in the real world for him or anyone
else.
Do you know what a 'theory' actually is, gordy loser?
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/22/07 12:23 PM:
>>> Go for the girl. Have sex in front of him if at all possible. Under NO
>>> circumstances should you put this other guy ahead of this woman.
>>>
>>> If he has a problem with it he can fuck off. Do not budge on this.
>>>
>>
>> Spoken like a true malignant narcissist who has no friends.
>
> Alex needs to get out of that RTF more...all that time spent with life's
> TRUE fuck-ups has him playing lay psychologist again it seems.
>
You don't have to be a veterinarian to know dog shit when you see it.
Arawn
are going to a movie, and she wan'ts to play pool afterwards.
greets,
me.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> are going to a movie, and she wan'ts to play pool afterwards.
Stand her up. Don't call her.
If she calls, tell her you met an incredible woman on the way and hooked up
with her, and apologize while saying "sorry, it just happened." Then end
the conversation.