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Stepleader  
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 More options Dec 15 2000, 7:00 am
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From: "Stepleader" <n...@spam.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:00:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Dec 15 2000 7:00 am
Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post

> Here's my challenge to everyone who is (a) afraid of meeting women,
> and/or (b) not getting any women, or (c) not getting enough women.

> This simple little challenge will (a) eliminate your fear of women, (b)
> show you that you don't have to play any tricks to get and have them.

DAMN!  Im out for the count on this challenge.  Shit and I LOVE challenges.
 Are they any for the pro puas?

I agree with this newbie mission: approach or fuck off.  shit or get off
the pot.


 
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 More options Dec 15 2000, 9:52 pm
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:52:46 -0800
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Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Where can I find this post in full?

Would anyone be kind enough to post it here again?

Thanks!

NG

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 More options Dec 16 2000, 3:16 am
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From: Formhandle <formhan...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:15:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post

Nice Guy wrote:
> Where can I find this post in full?

> Would anyone be kind enough to post it here again?

http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...

--
jay <formhan...@aol.com>

Fast Seduction 101 - http://www.fastseduction.com/
Class is now in session...


 
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 More options Dec 17 2000, 12:34 pm
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From: "Nice Guy" <X_NICE_GU...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:35:03 -0800
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Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
Cheers mate!!

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> Nice Guy wrote:

> > Where can I find this post in full?

> > Would anyone be kind enough to post it here again?

http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1...
86124580572


 
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 More options Dec 17 2000, 4:32 pm
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From: Big Bear <big-bear@REMOVE_THIS_TO_REPLYxs4all.nl>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:30:30 +0100
Local: Sun, Dec 17 2000 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 2:38:26 +0100, Svengali wrote
(in message <141220001738265403%Svengali_h...@use.net>):

(rest snipped...)

A little field report from my actions today...

- Went down town, weather was beautiful so expected busy crowds today, since
in Amsterdam on sunday only down town stores are allowed to be open. Target
area: 2 little malls and one big department store.
- The crowd was extremely busy (many tourists and people buying christmas
stuff) and the ratio of HBs was high as I've rarely seen before (female
beauty really is a common thing here in A.).
- Walked around with in mind to say hi to every reaonable and better looking
chick who's looking my way, not necessarily making eye contact.
- Things didn't go as easy as I hoped. Many HB brought BF and sticked with
him and most of the others had bitch shields at full strenght. Some looked
the other way, some just ignored me, a few others smiled, and with a few on
who I did my usual approch (just walk up to them, stand near them) and
started talking about some comment I made of *the current* situation. I had
okay convo and split (didn't go for #closing).
- Then I goofed, I ran into one of my AFC friends and spent the rest of the
afternoon with him...
- Mission will be continued next wednesday and later, 'cause I'm taking some
time off from work

-Notes:
A) I noticed that quite a few chicks looked my way when I didn't *look* in
their direction (yeah right), but looked away when I pointed my head/eyes
their way...  
B) I skipped the stores with the highest population of HBs. i.e. female
fashion stores, at the moment I couldn't figure out good social proof as a
single male being in a store like that, now I have figured out one: just
pretend I'm buying a shirt (or whatever) for my kid sister and ask chicks for
advice on what to buy (will do that next time)
C) It seems easier to me to talk to a chick about whatever (but that style
needs more time per 'approach'), than to walk around and hello/smile when
bitch shields seem to be more effective; will adjust my style/attitude next
time and see how it goes...
D) Chick looking away can't be because of my style, my looks are fine and
female friends give me compliments on how cool etc. I dress. But nevertheless
I will work on my looks, just be very different from the rest...
E) Before I leave my home I'll picture how my appoaches may appear to a chick
from a chick's point of view, so I can't ajust my style to that if things
don't work as I plan

I'll keep you/the group updated!

Cheers, Big Bear


 
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 More options Dec 18 2000, 5:16 pm
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From: Big Bear <big-bear@REMOVE_THIS_TO_REPLYxs4all.nl>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:14:57 +0100
Local: Mon, Dec 18 2000 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Svengali issues a group challenge based upon his last post
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 0:35:58 +0100, Svengali wrote
(in message <171220001535583086%Svengali_h...@use.net>):

> What you snipped and missed was the most important part (I'm quoting
> myself) "A simple smile and "hello" to everyone. ".

> I NEVER said "to hot babes/hard bodies", I said EVERYONE.   And I do
> mean everyone.  Look this isn't JUST an exercise to eliminate your fear
> of meeting hot women or women in general, rather it's an exercise to
> eliminate your fear of meeting people with a simple hello, or question,
> or comment ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.  In other words, it's meant to turn you
> into an openly friendly and sociable person with EVERYONE, not just a
> few choice *some*ones.

I didn't realise to take that so literally. Will do that from now on! I'm
very curious to see the reactions from all these different people...  LOL!
Life so far has conditioned me totally to have attitudes to "a few choice
*some*ones"...

> Once you get yourself into the habit of doing this (a.k.a. "being this
> way"), then you *won't* go out looking for women, rather you *will* be
> meeting women everywhere, everytime you go out of your house and do the
> things you normally do.

> So forget what she looks like, who she's with and all that other
> baloney.  Get out of your house and just say hello to everyone with a
> smile that's natural for you.  Allow things to take their inevitable
> course and you'll discover what it is you are meant to learn.

> One last thing: forget the fucking conversations and everything else
> you talked about that I snipped out.  Master the first step and art of
> being friendly with everyone, anytime, anywhere, all the time,
> everywhere.  Look at what they do when you smile and say hello.

I realise now that I always will have to be in the 'right' mood as well
(anytime, anywhere, etc.). Tonight I bought some groceries at my local market
and goofed due to a grouchy mood I had. At least 5 people that passed me
'showed interest', I noticed and decided to ignore them. I will change these
little attitudes I can have sometimes...

> Develop a consensus perspective from your voluminous hello's, such as
> "I noticed from saying hello to a hundred people, that invariably 30,
> 40 or fifty of them will..., when I..."
> "I noticed from saying 'hi' to over a hundred guys, that 40% will...,
> when I..."
> "I notice from saying 'hello' to over a hundred women who were..., that
> 30, 40, 50% will..."

> If you do this, faithfully, everyday for a month, you will learn when
> to say "hi" and when not to; when to ask a question, and when not to;
> who will give you are hard time, and who won't, and the list goes on,
> and on, and on.  In other words, you will have developed the most
> important skill of all -- people reading!

Thanks for pointing things out again and kicking my ass! Will learn from this
and I look forward to get this 'people reading' skill.

Cheers, Big Bear


 
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