It's me

[rober...@comcast.net]

Some question whether I'm really posting. Steve Ryckman probably
remembers that during a conversation we had at the NY Coliseum (before
ISC moved to the Javits center) I commented about his company being
laid back enough that folks wore jeans to the trade show.

Several folks here posted how nice things are without all the
bickering. I'm posting polite, on-topic messages. If anyone starts a
new flame fest (some are already starting) don't blame me.

Regards,
Robert L Bass
www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

[Frank Olson]

<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1131333624.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> Several folks here posted how nice things are without all the
> bickering. I'm posting polite, on-topic messages. If anyone starts a
> new flame fest (some are already starting) don't blame me.

Actually... posting *facts* isn't the same as posting *flames*. You seem
to confuse these two words. When you post unsubstantiated statements,
outright lies and innuendo, those are considered *flames*. The four
unresolved complaints at the Better Business Bureau, your criminal record,
that you were directly responsible for a young woman's death, that you've
taken your personal animosity for others "real life" and tried to get them
fired from their jobs... these are all *facts*.

I have no desire to "start" anything here. I do believe that anyone that
does come to work for you should be aware of your past though (just as I'm
sure you'll insist on being able to verify theirs). Of course having a
criminal record isn't as big an issue for you as it would be for someone
who's actually working *in the trade*.

[rober...@comcast.net]

> Actually... posting *facts* isn't the same as posting *flames*.

Call it what you like. I posted information in response to comments
and questions others (including you) had posted during my absence.
Your reply was designed to start a fight.

> I have no desire to "start" anything here.

Good. Then try carrying on a discussion the way someone would in a
normal face-to-face conversation. You've made a big deal of the FAQ
which Steve wrote years ago. ISYR that included in that document were
the words, "If you haven't anything nice to say..." (or words to that
effect).

> --- snip more stuff intended to incite flames ---

[Where's my WEBTV?]

Nice pop-ups on the website, Pinkie. Who's hosting the site now?
Angelfire?

[Mark Leuck]

"Where's my WEBTV?" <alarmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1131402800....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Nice pop-ups on the website, Pinkie. Who's hosting the site now?
> Angelfire?
>

Popups? Jeez Tom when are you gonna dump WebTV?

[Where's my WEBTV?]

I'm on a worldwide search for a WEBTV. WEBTV is to the internet what
Pinnacle/SafeHome is to the alarm industry :-)

[Frank Olson]

Where's my WEBTV? wrote:
> Nice pop-ups on the website, Pinkie. Who's hosting the site now?
> Angelfire?

The one about "spy-ware" is really annoying. About three windows pop up
in rapid succession and if you're not careful you could very easily
click on "install" before you even know you did...

[rober...@comcast.net]

Those are created by spyware on your own PC. I now refer you to your
earlier promise, to wit:

> If you don't appreciate the "critique", just say so and I'll keep my mouth shut about that too..

Do you plan to keep your word or not?

[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:

> Do you plan to keep your word or not?
>

I wasn't responding to you.

[rober...@comcast.net]

I figured there was no way you'd keep a promise.

[Total nerd]

Your site does have popups on the main page. It could be coming from
kounter.com's template php page that you've included in your code, or
even from liverperson.net's javascript code that you've included as
well.

[G. Morgan]

Subject: Re: It's me
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms

=> Where's my WEBTV? <= wrote:

>I'm on a worldwide search for a WEBTV. WEBTV is to the internet what
>Pinnacle/SafeHome is to the alarm industry :-)

And AOL is to an ISP as Dr. Seuss is to Shakespeare

--

-Graham

Remove the snails to email

[Where's my WEBTV?]

Actually I have 5 different providers but I still miss my WEBTV. No
other device ever used for accessing the internet pissed Mark off as
much as WEBTV so I am hellbent on finding another console :-)

[rober...@comcast.net]

Wrong again. There are no popups on the main page. You can manually
activate a "_blank" page by clicking "Move to Cart" or by clicking a
product link on the checkout page. But there are no automated pop-ups.
LivePerson doesn't do automated popups. Kounter just brings you to
their website if you click ion the icon -- no popup.

If you see popups, check your own PC. You've probably got some
spyware. Stay away from sites like Shop4Brains.com and you won't get
infected again. :^)

[Matt Ion]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:

> Shop4Brains.com

Bahahah!

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[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> Wrong again. There are no popups on the main page.

I think you'd better check that out for yourself... They're random but
they are there. And there's no "spyware" on either my office computer
or the one I use at home.

[Mark Leuck]

<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1131608782.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

I just connected with IE and got a window for this site

http://banner3.inet-traffic.com/oasisc.php?s=1&c=631&w=468&h=60&t=_blank

Deny it all you want but it's there

[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

i wear swim trunks, and in IE or FireFox the pop ups dont pop :-)
PS, in IE with pop up blocker off still no pop ups ... upgrade to XP
SP2 at least .. just some javascript tingem ..

[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:

> If you see popups, check your own PC. You've probably got some
> spyware. Stay away from sites like Shop4Brains.com and you won't get
> infected again. :^)
>

Now you see what I mean about the difference between a "flame"
(attacking someone with outright lies and innuendo) and a "fact"
(posting truthful information that's backed up by verifiable sources)?
You want to start down that road again Robert? In the words of Clint
Eastwood's "Harry Calahan": "Go ahead! Make my day!"

For your information http//:www.shopforbrains.com doesn't use pop-ups,
or load spyware at all. This particular site is hosted through Telus'
main "server farm" in Burnaby, B. C.

[Frank Olson]

Frank Olson wrote:

> For your information http//:www.shopforbrains.com

That link should say http://www.shopforbrains.com. I hadn't had my
morning cup of coffee yet...

[rober...@comcast.net]

So you got rid of the pop-ups for gay porn sites?

[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> So you got rid of the pop-ups for gay porn sites?
>

NOpe. I'm still hosting them at your request, but decided to limit them
to display for your IP address only... Please let me know when you're
leaving for Bahia so I can add that address too.

[Mark Leuck]

<cctvb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131690661....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> i wear swim trunks, and in IE or FireFox the pop ups dont pop :-)
> PS, in IE with pop up blocker off still no pop ups ... upgrade to XP
> SP2 at least .. just some javascript tingem ..

On first connect with IE (SP2 with blocker off for this page) it popped up a
small window, I know I don't have spyware.

[Mark Leuck]

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message
news:o6adf.489979$tl2.358998@pd7tw3no...

Let it go Frank, eventually he'll find out he does have popups then quietly
fix it if he hasn't already done it, without admitting it here of course

[Frank Olson]

Heh... People have been complaining about pop-ups on his site for
months. He's been "working on it" for about that long too...

[G. Morgan]

Subject: Re: It's me
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms
=> Where's my WEBTV? <= wrote:

>Actually I have 5 different providers but I still miss my WEBTV. No
>other device ever used for accessing the internet pissed Mark off as
>much as WEBTV so I am hellbent on finding another console :-)

If you're serious I saw a couple in a second-hand shop the other day I could
pick up. I'm sure they are still there. I think they only wanted $5 for one.

[Mark Leuck]

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

news:7padf.490075$tl2.224198@pd7tw3no...

Thats the first time I've ever noticed it although I normally use Firefox
and blocking extensions, I will assume he doesn't realize it for the same
reasons and I also doubt it's intentional since its a rather pitiful popup
and the revenue would be next to nothing.

[Frank Olson]

Mark Leuck wrote:

>
>
> Thats the first time I've ever noticed it although I normally use Firefox
> and blocking extensions, I will assume he doesn't realize it for the same
> reasons and I also doubt it's intentional since its a rather pitiful popup
> and the revenue would be next to nothing.

Of all the pop-ups on Bass' site this one is the most annoying. The
html encoding they're using is "timed" almost perfectly to pop up the
"install" window right around the time you left click to close (or
cancel) the bogus "search". A word of warning: If you're going to
click on the link I've supplied, please *wait* until all the pop-ups
complete (or simply take my word for it and don't even bother)...

http://www.winfixer.com/pages/scanner/index.php?aid=ticon_ed2&lid=con&ex=1&p=&ax=1

[rober...@comcast.net]

You're a liar, Olson.

[Matt Ion]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> You're a liar, Olson.
>

No he's not... I just tried it on a fresh new heavily-secured install of
Win2K3 server (ie. NO spyware here)... bassburglaralarms.com almost
immediately gave me a popup for WinFixer and when I hit Cancel it opened
a new window with the WinFixer page and another popup announcing it was
the WinFixer installer, without my even clicking anything on the page.

Nice.

Ah, then back on the original window, I got the same initial WinFixer
popup again... cancelling again gave me an "Are you sure??" popup, and
cancelling that gave me an "your automated download will begin..."
popup, and a "Save/Open" download dialog all ready to start downloading
the thing!

Y'know, I'm new in these parts, and I really couldn't be bothered going
back into the group archives to look stuff up when others started
posting "warnings" about you; I just figured they were being reactionary
or something, as tends to happen online, because I didn't expect you
could REALLY be as much as a shmuck as they claimed...

Now I see they were right.

Either that, or someone else has slipped this code into your site and
you're just incredibly dense for not realizing it.

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[mikey]

okay on my w2k machine here Sat morning

"Matt Ion" <sou...@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
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[rober...@comcast.net]

All I can tell you is there are no pop-ups on my server. If you got
one, it didn't come from my site. The people who maintain the SF sites
run anti-syware and anti-virus SW on all of the servers, including
dedicated machines which belong to me. Not one client has ever said
they got a pop-up from my sites. With 25-30,000 visitors (not hits)
per month, if there was a problem I;d have heard of it long before.

I couldn't care less if you think these toads are right. They're
laughing at you for believing their BS. The code on my home page is
simple enough to follow. There's nothing in it that can activate an
automated popup -- only those you *request* by clicking "Add to Cart".
The claims that Kounter triggers a popup are also ridiculous. The HTML
that displays Kounter's image has nothing in it that could do so. If
you believe otherwise you're the one who is dense (or you don't know
how to read HTML).

[rober...@comcast.net]

Just for the heck of it, I turned off McAffee, shut off my anti-spyware
and set my browser to allow all pop-ups. Then I went to my website.
No pop-ups. Nada. Zip. Just an ordinary online store selling lots of
alarm and home automation systems.

Conclusion: You're wrong. (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and
assume you're not a liar).

[Mark Leuck]

I just checked and got it again, it doesn't seem to happen every time and
I've only seen it twice

"mikey" <loism...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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[coord]

Set Firefox to allow popups for www.bassburglaralarms.com ...go to the site..Firefox displays
warning that 1 popup has been blocked...click on yellow warning bar and popup displays...link is
http://www.inet-traffic.com/creatives/spyblocs_terry555_720x3001.gif

When I navigate there with OE with the Google toolbar installed I get a warning that 2 popups
have been blocked.....definitely something going on there.....

<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[coord]

And 2nd popup is... http://adv1.eblocs.com/spyblocs/adv/inettraffic_001.html

"coord" <spl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S46dnbALMYP6geve...@comcast.com...

[Mark Leuck]

I ended up clearing all history and cookies in IE and a link to this one
shows

http://banner3.inet-traffic.com/oasisc.php?s=1&c=631&w=468&h=60&t=_blank

"coord" <spl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S46dnbALMYP6geve...@comcast.com...

[Mark Leuck]

<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1131801906.4...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Delete your cookies and history and it will appear

[Matt Ion]

Oddly, it only seemed to do it the first time... perhaps it also
deposited a cookie. But it sure as f*ck was a persistant bugger.

Okay, just for laughs, I just deleted all the cookies on my server, and
hit bassburglaralarms.com again... and got the WinFixer popups again!

And again, it asks me to install WinFixer... to wit, "NOTICE: If your
computer has errors in the registry database, it could cause
unpredictable or erratic behavior, freezes and crashs. Fixing these
errors can increase your computer's performance and prevent data loss.
Would you like to install WinFixer 2005 to check your computer for free?
(Recommended)" Cancelling opens another window to the WinFixer site and
an Installer popup telling me that by clicking the Continue button I am
"accepting [their] terms and conditions", and with only a "Continue"
button, no Cancel button.

Clicking the X on the top-right closes that popup, but on closing the IE
window, another warning pops up: "NOTICE: You have not completed the
errors[sic] scan. If your computer has errors in the file system or
Windows registry, it could cause unpredictable or erratic PC behavior,
freezes, crashes and loss of data. You need to install WinFixer 2005 to
scan for and, if found, fix system errors now (Recommended)?"

Hitting Cancel gives the popup "WinFixer 2005 will scan your system for
errors now. Please select "RUN" or "OPEN" when prompted to start the
installation. This file has been digitally signed and independently
certified as 100% free of viruses, adware and spyware." And only an
"OK" button.

Which dutifully gives me the "If automated download doesn't start..."
window, and the Open/Save/Cancel/MoreInfo dialog.

This is entirely reproduceable... it doesn't come back until I delete
cookies, and the just refreshing the bassburglaralarms.com homepage
starts the whole process over again.

Tested on: 11/12/2005 11:54:48 AM

[Matt Ion]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> All I can tell you is there are no pop-ups on my server. If you got
> one, it didn't come from my site. The people who maintain the SF sites
> run anti-syware and anti-virus SW on all of the servers, including
> dedicated machines which belong to me. Not one client has ever said
> they got a pop-up from my sites. With 25-30,000 visitors (not hits)
> per month, if there was a problem I;d have heard of it long before.
>
> I couldn't care less if you think these toads are right. They're
> laughing at you for believing their BS.

I don't have to believe it - I've witnessed it myself, and it's
completely repeatable. If it's not in your code, then it's in the
server, but it IS there.

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[Matt Ion]

Try clearing your cookies and do it again.

If you like, I'll provide you screenshots.

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[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

actually i just visited in IE, being very daring as I never use IE
anymore, I turned pop up blocker off, and it popped up this link:
http://www.gameroom.com/

[Frank Olson]

Now you've gone and done it!!! Another "detractor"! Welcome to the
"IB". :-)

[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

Not taking sides, just pointing out I made an initial error in my
assessment ;-)

Robert you may want to check that counter site out, as they are putting
pop ups on your visitors initial load of the page, it looks for a
cookie then if the cookie doesnt exist (first time user) it loads the
pop up. You can recreate the pop up simply by clearing your browser's
cookies.

This is the code in the home page that is invoking the script for the
pop up::

<!-- Begin Kounter.Com Code -->
<script language="javascript"
src="http://www.kounter.com/kount.php?user=RobertLBass&button=3">
</script>
<noscript>
<a target=_blank href="http://kounter.com/template.php?a=RobertLBass">
<img border=0 hspace=0 vspace=0
src="http://kounter.com/counter.php?a=RobertLBass"></a></noscript>
<!-- End Kounter.Com Code -->

And this is the code that actually launches the pop up from the Kounter
page::
(actual link changes as it is rotating i imagine)

<SCRIPT src="/JJ_qJCA.js"></SCRIPT>

<!-- Begin Inet-Traffic.Com PopUnder Code -->
<script>
var
winfeatures="width=800,height=800,scrollbars=1,resizable=1,toolbar=1,location=1,menubar=1,status=1,directories=1"
win2=window.open("http://www.gameroom.com/","",winfeatures)
win2.blur()
window.focus()
</script>
<!-- End Inet-Traffic.Com PopUnder Code -->
<SCRIPT>JJ_reset()</SCRIPT>

[Mark Leuck]

"Matt Ion" <sou...@moltenimage.com> wrote in message

news:iMrdf.494602$tl2.108330@pd7tw3no...

> Oddly, it only seemed to do it the first time... perhaps it also
> deposited a cookie. But it sure as f*ck was a persistant bugger.
>
> Okay, just for laughs, I just deleted all the cookies on my server, and
> hit bassburglaralarms.com again... and got the WinFixer popups again!

Yup thats what I did

> And again, it asks me to install WinFixer... to wit, "NOTICE: If your
> computer has errors in the registry database, it could cause
> unpredictable or erratic behavior, freezes and crashs. Fixing these
> errors can increase your computer's performance and prevent data loss.
> Would you like to install WinFixer 2005 to check your computer for free?
> (Recommended)" Cancelling opens another window to the WinFixer site and
> an Installer popup telling me that by clicking the Continue button I am
> "accepting [their] terms and conditions", and with only a "Continue"
> button, no Cancel button.

I never hit cancel figuring it would do that, I just close the window

[Doug L]

Depending on their browser settings a first time visitor to BBA will very
likely get a pop up from Inet.

You owe Frank an apology

Doug L

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[obo]

hemust be trying to spybomb everyone at ASA!

"coord" <spl...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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[obo]

yea I can't believe he'd flame Frank like that when all Frank wa trying to
do was help. yeeesh what a putz.

"Doug L" <vss...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:qMqdnQvWBdv...@giganews.com...

[Frank Olson]

obo wrote:
> yea I can't believe he'd flame Frank like that when all Frank wa trying to
> do was help. yeeesh what a putz.

Welcome to "Robert's Zone". <Cue "Twilight Zone" music> A world of
slight and frown. Where pop-ups and Java scripts abound. Simply "left
click" and start your journey ...

[Frank Olson]

cctvb...@hotmail.com wrote:

Yep, that's it, alright. Unfortunately, Robert won't believe you either
because you're nothing but *another dirty rotten liar*!!! :-)

[obo]

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

news:slwdf.492312$1i.229266@pd7tw2no...

he's trying to put a spybot on your machine so he can figure out what
distributor you clerk for.;)

[Doug L]

A day in the life of RLB, open mouth, insert foot, accuse everyone else of
lying repeat as often as possible.

Doug L

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<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1131801480.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

[petem]

He wont believe a screen shot..but if you use a software that "film" what
you do and post the result somewhere maybe he will believe..

of course you should install anti spyware from Microsoft before doing so and
show the result of a scan before doing the test on the web site..maybe he
will believe that.. but I am not even sure he will

"Matt Ion" <sou...@moltenimage.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
TNrdf.494605$tl2.406162@pd7tw3no...

[petem]

forget my last post...

i did it, i used snagit to film the events..

at first i open my browser(firefox) and remove history and cookies then i
open hijackthis..( a software that scan for process and help removing
spyware..) of course nothing show that i have spyware on my laptop

then i reopen my browser ,paste the url press enter and we have a pop up...i
do it twice, then i go in the setting of firefox and tell it to not show
popup, do the cleaning again and reopen the site,for sure i have a line
showing that it blocked a popup..
if there would be spyware on my machine i would see pop up even if they are
bieng blocked by firefox..

but then again i dont think i will say its true...

i will send the avi file to him by email,and if anyone want it just ask by
email pete...@gmail.com

[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

its just a cookie .. not spyware, though anti spyware programs normally
see cookies as such. Almost every web page you visit these days, you
are given a cookie, generally on shopping carts, member sites, and for
advertising statistics .. i prefer orios myself :-)

still the Kounter guys need to stop with the pop ups, or i would switch
to another counter. You can create your own or download scripts for it,
get one that allows you to include it as an image and that will work
for the static shopping cart pages.

[Frank Olson]

obo wrote:

>
> he's trying to put a spybot on your machine so he can figure out what
> distributor you clerk for.;)
>
>

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, "obo"!!!

Fill your fireman's boots, Robert!!!

[Matt Ion]

Frank Olson wrote:

> Yep, that's it, alright. Unfortunately, Robert won't believe you either
> because you're nothing but *another dirty rotten liar*!!! :-)

Well like I said, he's either a world-class shmuck, or unbelievably dense...

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[Frank Olson]

Matt Ion wrote:
> Frank Olson wrote:
>
>> Yep, that's it, alright. Unfortunately, Robert won't believe you
>> either because you're nothing but *another dirty rotten liar*!!! :-)
>
>
> Well like I said, he's either a world-class shmuck, or unbelievably
> dense...

Or both!!! ;-)

[Matt Ion]

cctvb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> its just a cookie .. not spyware, though anti spyware programs normally
> see cookies as such. Almost every web page you visit these days, you
> are given a cookie, generally on shopping carts, member sites, and for
> advertising statistics .. i prefer orios myself :-)

It's not the cookie causing the problem tho... all the cookie seems to
do is tell WinFixer (or whatever is linking to it) that you've already
been through the
"install-me-or-die-no-really-you-must-install-but-I-insist" process
once. Once the cookie is there, the popups don't happen anymore.
remove it, and it runs again.

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[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

Sorry my bad, I should have explained a little further, yes the cookie
is simply a text file, it doesnt do anything itself, the scripts do all
the actual work :-) It looks for its customized cookie, then it sais
if it isnt there, create the cookie, and in at least the case of the
Kounter guys, load the pop up script, if the cookie is found, it doesnt
load the pop up.

In this case it actually installs 5 cookies.

banner3.inet-traffic.com
inet-traffic.com
server.iad.liveperson
kounter.com
liveperson.net

[cctvb...@hotmail.com]

also, this is what happens when you have to rely on others code for
your web site unfortunately. Everything can be created by an
experienced web master themselves, without using 3rd party scripts,
counters, etc. However I understand that not everyone is a coder. ;-)

[rober...@comcast.net]

First of all, the whole thing is an Olson ruse. There are no popups on
the site. Second, I've created my own websites for years. I chose the
SF shopping cart because it's better than what I wrote. However,
there's nothing in their code that would introduce popups.

[rober...@comcast.net]

The only thing I "owe" Olson is a swift boot in his butt.

[Mark Leuck]

<rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1131887314.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Then you are either ignorant, don't want to admit it or intended the popups
to be there

There is an easy way to prove this, get RH Campbell, Jackcsg or Crash to go
to the site, if they are interested, seems simple enough

[R.H.Campbell]

I went up to RLB's site and clicked on a large number of pages, and didn't
see any popups whatsoever. However, in fairness, I have just about every
security precaution turned on in my computer.....router, firewalls, popup
blockers, Zonealarm etc....so frankly, it's a wonder my e mails even get
out. But I usually am notified if a pop up tries it's tricks, and nothing
showed up.

What the hell is with the number of obsessive posts about pop up's on RLB's
site anyway ? Seems like people are being a bit "anal retentive" here !! Let
it go for crying out loud........

RHC

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[petem]

<rober...@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
1131887370....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> The only thing I "owe" Olson is a swift boot in his butt.
>

No, you do owe him an apology

And you know that its true even if you deny opening the attachment of my
email.

that just prove your full of it...

do yourself a favour and start acting like a man,you were proven
wrong..accept it...

[Doug L]

Its not the pop ups, its his response to it. The pop-up/under is generated
by the website counter he is using and he was probably unaware of it until
it was brought to his attention. Rather than acknowledge the fact and
correct it, he chose to start with the same old RLB crap, deny everything
and call everyone else a liar.

Doug L

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.ca...@homemetal.com> wrote in message
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[Mark Leuck]

The firewall/blockers/Zone alarm aren't an issue but try deleting all your
cookies in IE and turn off popup blocking and they should appear

The only reason people are being anal about it isn't because popups exist
but the fact he denys it when it's obvious that it's true

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.ca...@homemetal.com> wrote in message
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[Doug L]

Some versions of zonealarm have a privacy setting that will block pop-ups
and cookies.

Doug L

--

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote in message

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[Frank Olson]

Doug L wrote:
> Its not the pop ups, its his response to it. The pop-up/under is generated
> by the website counter he is using and he was probably unaware of it until
> it was brought to his attention. Rather than acknowledge the fact and
> correct it, he chose to start with the same old RLB crap, deny everything
> and call everyone else a liar.

What's equally "dispicable" is that the folks at "kounter.com" aren't up
front about the fact that utilizing their code exposes visitors to a
website that uses it to some very annoying pop-up ads. Of all of the
ones I've seen, "WinFixer" is the worst. If Robert was at all "code
savvy", he could rewrite the script supplied by "kounter.com" to
"pop-up" messages from his own site (advertising specials, etc.). He
says he gets 30,000 unique visits every month. I wonder how many of
those don't bother to stay because of the pop-ups and how many just
decide to shop else-where because it takes so many clicks to get to
where you can actually compare products. The site itself is a "kludge"
because he insists on "pushing" everything. Most of the really
successful online vendors settle on one or two manufacturer's products,
not the whole "galaxy".

[Matt Ion]

R.H.Campbell wrote:
> I went up to RLB's site and clicked on a large number of pages, and didn't
> see any popups whatsoever. However, in fairness, I have just about every
> security precaution turned on in my computer.....router, firewalls, popup
> blockers, Zonealarm etc....so frankly, it's a wonder my e mails even get
> out. But I usually am notified if a pop up tries it's tricks, and nothing
> showed up.

Delete your cookies, then try it. If you've been there once, the site -
whether Bass's code, or the Kounter, or something else - puts a cookie
on your machine that appears to tell it not to produce the popups again.

But the popups ARE there, the moment you first load the homepage at
www.bassburglaralarms.com.

> What the hell is with the number of obsessive posts about pop up's on RLB's
> site anyway ? Seems like people are being a bit "anal retentive" here !! Let
> it go for crying out loud........

Well in my case, it was Bass's post calling Olson a liar. I have no
particular interest in Bass's products or services or visiting his web
pages, but this prompted me to check out Olson's claims, and he was
correct. Others have tried it and found the same thing. Bass is now
calling us all liars.

---
avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
Virus Database (VPS): 0545-2, 11/11/2005

Tested on: 11/13/2005 11:14:52 AM

[Doug L]

You went looking for pop-ups with pop-up blockers enabled?

Doug L

--

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.ca...@homemetal.com> wrote in message
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[Mark Leuck]

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

news:73Mdf.497014$1i.326197@pd7tw2no...

You are reaching a little bit, unless I missed something I noticed only one
window which is easy to close and if they make return visits it won't appear
again (I think). Its not like they spend all their time clicking windows
closed. Many would have either Firefox or IE with SP2 and have it blocked
anyway. As far as the amount of product he offers thats for him to decide
but remember how much fun it is when he slams something he forgot he carries
like umm carpet snakes etc

[Mark Leuck]

Depending on the configuration IE with blocking enabled will show a popup
window asking to allow a popup, at least thats what it did with me.

"Doug L" <vss...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> You're a liar, Olson.
>

There are at least a dozen people here that say you're wrong. You're a
sad case, Robert... Paranoid, delusional, ego-centric and egotistical.
If you weren't such a cheap prick, you'd opt for the hosting package
that provides statistics instead of relying on "Kounter.com". How do
you figure they can afford to "give away" their service anyway?? By
linking to paying advertisers, ya big dummy!!! Sheesh!!! :-)

[Where's my WEBTV?]

Is Campbell some judge who will make it be so just because he saw it?
I'm sure some folks here find Campbell to be a decent fellow but for
fucks sake this guy has spent the last few years either pretending as
if Bass is the innocent victim of newsgroup flames or posting horseshit
about how we are evil for using contracts. Just about everyone who went
to bassburgers.com saw the damn thing. Who gives a monkey fuck what the
hell he thinks? You could bet if Cooper owned that website that
Campbell would see the popups.

[Where's my WEBTV?]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh so now you see the popups too? Get a real ISP like WEBTV
and you won't be flooded with spam. Graham said he found 2 of them.
Want to see if they'll give us a disocunt for a bulk purchase? :-)

[Where's my WEBTV?]

And yes you DID miss me. God damn Brits always bullshitting.
Your new queen was over this way last week. Dude you folks need to chip
in and get Charles some glasses. She looks like a blonde Buddy Hackett.

[R.H.Campbell]

The point is, who gives a damn if he's got popups ! It's his problem pure
and simple. You guys have spent untold posts fretting about him not seeing
the bloody things, as if that's the only thing you have to contribute to the
newsgroup. I sometimes think that if RLB left the group, you guys would have
nothing to piss and moan about.
Whether you like him or not, and whether you or I agree with his conduct or
not, RLB is still a contributor to the group and has been here a lot longer
than most of us. This is not a defence or a condemnation of his conduct on
the newsgroup. Just a simple statement of fact ! And he likely won't go away
because of anything you guys can think to do. Live with it !!

Cooper is just a scammer plain and simple ! I care even less if he has
popups on his site !

Get a life for crying out loud !

RHC

"Where's my WEBTV?" <alarmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[Doug L]

Prince Charles was driving around his mother's estate when he accidentally
ran over her favorite dog, a corgi, crushing it to a pulp. He got out of his
Range Rover and sat down on the grass totally distraught.
The whole world was against him and now his mother would go ballistic.

Suddenly he noticed a lamp half-buried in the ground. He dug it up, polished
it and immediately a genie appeared.

"You have freed me from thousands of years of imprisonment," said the genie.
"As a reward, I shall grant you one wish."

"Well," said the Prince, "I have all the material things I need, but let me
show you this dog."

They walk over to the splattered remains of the dog. "Do you think you could
bring this dog back to life for me?" the Prince asked.

The genie carefully looked at the remains and shook his head. "This body is
too far gone for even me to bring it back to life. Is there something else
you would like?"

The Prince thought for a minute, reached into his pocket and pulled out two
photos. "I was married to this beautiful woman called Diana," said Prince
Charles, showing the genie the first photo. "But now I love this woman
called Camilla," and he showed the genie the second photo. 'You see Camilla
isn't beautiful at all, so do you think you can make Camilla as beautiful as
Diana?"

The genie studied the two photographs and after a few minutes said, "Let's
have a look at that dog again."

--

"Where's my WEBTV?" <alarmi...@aol.com> wrote in message

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[alarman]

> The genie studied the two photographs and after a few minutes said, "Let's
> have a look at that dog again."

:-) ROFL
js

[rober...@comcast.net]

What was that you promised about stopping your ongoing commentary on my
website? I guess your word is about as worthless as your "content".

[rober...@comcast.net]

Do yourself a favor and find something useful about which to post.
Ypou're adding nothing but vitriol.

[Frank Olson]

rober...@comcast.net wrote:
> What was that you promised about stopping your ongoing commentary on my
> website? I guess your word is about as worthless as your "content".
>

If you'd care to look at what I was responding to, you'd see it wasn't a
post commenting on your website. <sigh>

[Frank Olson]

R.H.Campbell wrote:
> The point is, who gives a damn if he's got popups !

I sure don't. I was merely commenting on them. The thread assumed a
life of it's own when he started calling everyone that said they were
there "liars".

> It's his problem pure and simple.

I agree. But his denying it even exists after about a dozen people have
all experienced them (and they are reproduceable), then launching into
"general attack mode" sort of takes it beyond "his" problem.

> You guys have spent untold posts fretting about him not seeing
> the bloody things, as if that's the only thing you have to contribute to the
> newsgroup. I sometimes think that if RLB left the group, you guys would have
> nothing to piss and moan about.

You're right. When he inexplicably left, it was rather "quiet" around
here... Peaceful even...

> Whether you like him or not, and whether you or I agree with his conduct or
> not, RLB is still a contributor to the group and has been here a lot longer
> than most of us. This is not a defence or a condemnation of his conduct on
> the newsgroup. Just a simple statement of fact ! And he likely won't go away
> because of anything you guys can think to do. Live with it !!

Bob, I respect you. But dammit, sometimes you do go off the deep end.
"Condoning" just about anyone's behaviour as long as they "contribute to
the Group" and "contribute long enough" is about as ridiculous as
calling me "a liar" for pointing out the Pop-Up's on Robert's website.

>
> Cooper is just a scammer plain and simple ! I care even less if he has
> popups on his site !

The Loxxon system?? My guys are all trained to ask "would you like a
Loxxon with that?" whenever you pick up an order at the "counter". :-)

>
> Get a life for crying out loud !

Get rid of that Gold Wing and get a real bike for cryin' out loud!! :-)

[R.H.Campbell]

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

news:Hkief.503533$oW2.413305@pd7tw1no...

>> Whether you like him or not, and whether you or I agree with his conduct
>> or not, RLB is still a contributor to the group and has been here a lot
>> longer than most of us. This is not a defence or a condemnation of his
>> conduct on the newsgroup. Just a simple statement of fact ! And he likely
>> won't go away because of anything you guys can think to do. Live with it
>> !!
>
> Bob, I respect you. But dammit, sometimes you do go off the deep end.
> "Condoning" just about anyone's behaviour as long as they "contribute to
> the Group" and "contribute long enough" is about as ridiculous as calling
> me "a liar" for pointing out the Pop-Up's on Robert's website.

RHC: Frank, my point is that if both you guys tone down your rhetoric, it's
not likely that things would accelerate to the point where you both start
calling each other names. Try to look beyond the name calling and finger
pointing and see what this kind of thing does to the ng, and to what people
think who are coming here. That's all I was really trying to say, albeit in
perhaps a bit too severe a tone...

>
>
> Get rid of that Gold Wing and get a real bike for cryin' out loud!! :-)

RHC: Now you're being really vicious. I had a "plastic sled" and now have a
REAL motorcycle....:))

[Frank Olson]

R.H.Campbell wrote:

> RHC: Frank, my point is that if both you guys tone down your rhetoric, it's
> not likely that things would accelerate to the point where you both start
> calling each other names. Try to look beyond the name calling and finger
> pointing and see what this kind of thing does to the ng, and to what people
> think who are coming here. That's all I was really trying to say, albeit in
> perhaps a bit too severe a tone...

I wasn't actually calling Robert a name. "Cheap prick" can be applied
to almost anyone here at one time or another (including myself). I hate
spending money on things like radiator hoses, gas, tires, and
head-lights. Love DVD's, wide screen TV's, kick-ass sound systems, and
my latest passion... "Web-TV" (thanks to Tom, Mark, and Graham). :-)

When it comes to a web-site, the one thing I wouldn't "go cheap" on
would be hosting. The statistics offered by "Kounter.com" are about as
good as those that I pay about $2.50 a month for (for each of the web
sites I operate). All you're doing by employing so called "free"
services is ensuring that things like pop-up code will kill repeat
traffic to your site. Since my help isn't appreciated, I'll keep such
further comments to myself and let Robert go his "merry way".

>
>>
>>Get rid of that Gold Wing and get a real bike for cryin' out loud!! :-)
>
>
> RHC: Now you're being really vicious. I had a "plastic sled" and now have a
> REAL motorcycle....:))

I know. I didn't want you to feel "left out". Part of the fun of
hangin' out here is getting to "pull a few chains"... ;-)

[R.H.Campbell]

Yeah, I know guy ! I have to admit, lately I've stopped taking everything so
seriously and am going to stand down from my soapbox and enjoy the view. I
guess Graham (I think that's who it was) hit my "annoy button" because of
his generalization about my being against long term contracts. That just
isn't so; just certain ways they are applied. If he read anything I've said
with any attention to the details, he'd see that. But what the hell, even
that no longer yanks my chain very much any more. Live and let live ! Each
to his own...it sure works for me...

No offence Frank, but if you'd stop knitpicking RLB about every little
thing, maybe things would go smoother. Frankly, I like your approach more
than Jim's. Deal with the facts and their accuracy and inaccuracy, rather
than dealing in insults and vile language. Readers aren't stupid; they can
see the truth reasonably quickly, but if intelligent conversation is covered
with a layer of slime, it clouds the view for everyone....

Cheers!

BTW, go to www.flickr.com/photos/tourman for a view of a REAL
motorcycle....:)))

RHC

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

news:Aqnef.513842>

[Frank Olson]

R.H.Campbell wrote:
> Yeah, I know guy ! I have to admit, lately I've stopped taking everything so
> seriously and am going to stand down from my soapbox and enjoy the view. I
> guess Graham (I think that's who it was) hit my "annoy button" because of
> his generalization about my being against long term contracts. That just
> isn't so; just certain ways they are applied. If he read anything I've said
> with any attention to the details, he'd see that. But what the hell, even
> that no longer yanks my chain very much any more. Live and let live ! Each
> to his own...it sure works for me...
>
> No offence Frank, but if you'd stop knitpicking RLB about every little
> thing, maybe things would go smoother. Frankly, I like your approach more
> than Jim's. Deal with the facts and their accuracy and inaccuracy, rather
> than dealing in insults and vile language. Readers aren't stupid; they can
> see the truth reasonably quickly, but if intelligent conversation is covered
> with a layer of slime, it clouds the view for everyone....

I appreciate the comments. I've received a ton of email over the last
year when I stopped flaming Robert. I've enjoyed life a whole lot more
since then (including the time I spend here "policing" his activities).
Mostly I've just left him alone knowing how easily he's riled and how
quickly he resorts to name calling, innuendo, and lies. It *is* fun
rattling his chain though. He leaves so much of it lying around. :-)

> BTW, go to www.flickr.com/photos/tourman for a view of a REAL
> motorcycle....:)))

Yeah... I've seen it. A friend of mine is rebuilding an "Indian" he
found in the hay inside a barn in Clearbrook. It's in pieces at the
moment, but I've seen pictures of the thing as it will look. Now
*that's* a bike!! No frills, just "mean" lookin'.

[R.H.Campbell]

If that's an original Indian, and he restores it properly, it will be worth
some serious change....

RHC

"Frank Olson" <Use_the_e...@yoursecuritysource.com> wrote in message

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[G. Morgan]

Subject: Re: It's me
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms
=> R.H.Campbell <= wrote:

>Yeah, I know guy ! I have to admit, lately I've stopped taking everything so
>seriously and am going to stand down from my soapbox and enjoy the view. I
>guess Graham (I think that's who it was) hit my "annoy button" because of
>his generalization about my being against long term contracts.

That wasn't me you crazy Canuck! That was your pal Tom (-Where's my WebTV-).

> That just
>isn't so; just certain ways they are applied. If he read anything I've said
>with any attention to the details, he'd see that. But what the hell, even
>that no longer yanks my chain very much any more. Live and let live ! Each
>to his own...it sure works for me...

If I wanted to yank your chain, you'd know it was me. :-)

>
>No offence Frank, but if you'd stop knitpicking RLB about every little
>thing, maybe things would go smoother. Frankly, I like your approach more
>than Jim's. Deal with the facts and their accuracy and inaccuracy, rather
>than dealing in insults and vile language. Readers aren't stupid; they can
>see the truth reasonably quickly, but if intelligent conversation is covered
>with a layer of slime, it clouds the view for everyone....

No offence to you Bob, but if you would at least acknowledge the fact that RLB
is the main source of the turmoil in this NG instead of enabling his deplorable
behavior maybe he would stop. After all, you are one of the very few he has
"respect" for your opinion.

-G

--

-Graham

Remove the snails to email

[G. Morgan]

Subject: Re: It's me
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms

=> rober...@comcast.net <= wrote:

>Do yourself a favor and find something useful about which to post.
>Ypou're adding nothing but vitriol.

I found it useful.

[R.H.Campbell]

Ah sorry guy ! I can never tell who the devil is behind all these
pseudonames. Thought it was you. I wish people would stop hiding behind all
these aliases. I don't know what purpose it serves other than to confuse
people....

RHC

"G. Morgan" <alarmp...@snailgmail.com> wrote in message
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[Frank Olson]

R.H.Campbell wrote:
> If that's an original Indian, and he restores it properly, it will be worth
> some serious change....

It is... and it will be...

[Frank Olson]

G. Morgan wrote:

> No offence to you Bob, but if you would at least acknowledge the fact that RLB
> is the main source of the turmoil in this NG instead of enabling his deplorable
> behavior maybe he would stop. After all, you are one of the very few he has
> "respect" for your opinion.

If Bob did that, then he'd quickly become one of those whose opinions
Robert doesn't respect.

[G. Morgan]

Subject: Re: It's me
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms

=> Frank Olson <= wrote:

>
>
>If Bob did that, then he'd quickly become one of those whose opinions
>Robert doesn't respect.

yup..

[Where's my WEBTV?]

LOL

[Where's my WEBTV?]

As if anyone other than me would annoint WEBTV a decent ISP, as well as
share my excellent command of the expletives you find so fucking
offensive.
Your wish for the end of aliases is about as likely to happen as the
wish for you to stop pretending Bass is a contributor and not a
soliciting scumbag. The group would be dull at best without his
constant bullshit stories but when you portray yourself as an amateur
consumer advocate you look like an idiot when you maintain a
relationship with the biggest scam artist here while pretending as if
he's just a misunderstood person.
Your credibility is so shot it wouldn't surprise me if you were the
Professor X your pal Cooper refers to.

[Where's my WEBTV?]

Talking to me, Pinky? I know that must be directed at me because I
refuse to post anything useful here for fear of further educating you
about this industry you know so little about (tip&ring is still my all
time favorite).

[R.H.Campbell]

Thanks Tom ! Coming from you, as I remember, the master of the free system
sale, that is quite a compliment !

Hey, this is fun ! Can I be the newsgroup bad boy....please, please !
Baiting the twits is such fun !! If I could steal all of RLB's thunder,
wouldn't that be a hoot!!!! (like the politician said, I don't care what
they say about me as long as they're talking about me....)

Ok guys ! Give it your best shot......:))))) (oh goody goody...)

RHC

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