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Effenpig1

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Dec 10, 2009, 7:03:52 PM12/10/09
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Installed a Concord V4 today. When I unpacked it I noticed the
individual components(antenna shroud, battery leads, etc.) were not in
a sealed bag like they usually are, instead they were in a similar
sized zip-lock type bag. Also the resistors were bent in a U-shape
like the had all been previously installed on the terminals. I thought
maybe it had been pulled off the line for quality control testing
( yeah, right ) . I powered it up to check function and found the
installer code was not default, although the master code was. It
wasn't a huge deal, alot of times I buy the whole panel just for the
keypad, so I have plenty of extra panels. Probably not even worth
sending back for a replacement. Still, wish there was a simple
backdoor like the Concord Express.

alarman

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Dec 10, 2009, 8:13:16 PM12/10/09
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Fuck that. I would call the distributor and demand a brand new panel appear
on my doorstep immediately.

--
js

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum


Effenpig1

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Dec 10, 2009, 8:52:27 PM12/10/09
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Actually, What would make me really happy is if they would send me a
keypad in exchange. Seems more likely they will want to send me a new
board. If I hadn't had another board to put in I would have been
pretty pissed, but I would be in pretty sad shape to not have a few
panels on hand anyway.

alarman

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Dec 10, 2009, 9:07:51 PM12/10/09
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Effenpig1 wrote:

> Actually, What would make me really happy is if they would send me a
> keypad in exchange. Seems more likely they will want to send me a new
> board. If I hadn't had another board to put in I would have been
> pretty pissed, but I would be in pretty sad shape to not have a few
> panels on hand anyway.

Yeah, it's the "pass the trash" thing that irritates me.

Effenpig1

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Dec 10, 2009, 9:54:03 PM12/10/09
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Well, they will be getting it back with "DEFECTIVE" written on every
available surface in permanent marker.

Bob La Londe

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Dec 10, 2009, 11:36:11 PM12/10/09
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"alarman" <nos...@none.net> wrote in message
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Bet it came from SGI.

Effenpig1

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Dec 10, 2009, 11:52:57 PM12/10/09
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I've never dealt with SGI, I take it they have issues

mleuck

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Dec 11, 2009, 2:21:40 PM12/11/09
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You buy the package just for the keypads?

mleuck

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Dec 11, 2009, 2:41:29 PM12/11/09
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On Dec 10, 6:03 pm, Effenpig1 <dirtyspicev...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Was the box itself sealed?

nick markowitz

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:03:57 AM12/12/09
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Thats why Honeywell started using seal tape. Too many times some one
take a product use it not like it repack it bring it back and adi
would put it back on shelf with out checking it.
Home Depot is famous for this I will never buy another light fixture
from them found a whole shelf one time all repacks as there called.
another time I caught them selling short of item wire nuts as well.
I only use Home depot for last minute items to save running all the wy
back to a supply house but I an geting very selective what I buy.
I am very careful to look for original seals etc . before I buy
something thats every where i go now.

Effenpig1

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:07:11 PM12/12/09
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Sometimes when I need an extra keypad I will buy the package for an
extra $40. Then I have extra boards, transformers, cans and other
components on hand if I need them, like in this situation. I don't buy
a kit every time I need a keypad, but I do it often enough to keep my
spare parts inventory at a comfortable level. For the few extra bucks
it seems like a good idea to me.

Effenpig1

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:12:32 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 11, 2:41 pm, mleuck <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

The boxes and all the components inside have seal tape, but to be
honest I couldn't honestly say whether it was sealed or not. The kit
was one that had the keypad pulled from it previously, so it may have
been a few weeks since I originally ordered it. I mark the top of the
box when I pull a part from it, but I think I'm going to have to pay
better attention when orders come in to make sure the box itself is
still sealed before we start robbing parts.

Effenpig1

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:14:55 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 8:03 am, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 11, 2:41 pm, mleuck <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

> another time I caught them selling  short of item wire nuts as well.


I never use those crappy wirenuts that come with fixtures anyway, I
always use the Ideal brand wing nuts

alarman

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Dec 13, 2009, 3:12:53 PM12/13/09
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Effenpig1 wrote:
> Sometimes when I need an extra keypad I will buy the package for an
> extra $40. Then I have extra boards, transformers, cans and other
> components on hand if I need them, like in this situation. I don't buy
> a kit every time I need a keypad, but I do it often enough to keep my
> spare parts inventory at a comfortable level. For the few extra bucks
> it seems like a good idea to me.

Yup, those kit prices are attractive. I do the same thing.

Effenpig1

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:56:51 PM12/19/09
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HA, I have no life. I pounded out the installer code only to find
there was a dealer code programmed. I gave up for awhile but went back
at it and found the dealer code. Installer code was in the mid 3000's
and dealer code was in the high 5000's. I need a hobby

mleuck

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:15:38 PM12/19/09
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Don't feel too bad I've done the same thing to a number of DSC 1550's

Bob La Londe

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Jan 6, 2010, 9:44:25 PM1/6/10
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"mleuck" <m.l...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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Version 4 and newer?

mleuck

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:41:44 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 6, 8:44 pm, "Bob La Londe" <nos...@nospam.no> wrote:
> "mleuck" <m.le...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message

Yes the backdoor method on the v4's used to freeze up the dialers
later so I would bang out a few from the major companies in the area
which would then give me access to hundreds of their panels

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