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PS

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Mar 16, 2002, 6:53:48 AM3/16/02
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We are helping young artists by promoting their art. Can anyone help us
arrange local exhibitions and events?

You can read more here: http://www.artseminar.org or send me an email:
p...@artseminar.org. Thank you.

Andrew Werby

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Mar 16, 2002, 2:14:30 PM3/16/02
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"PS" <ps@artseminar> wrote in message news:3c933...@news.vo.lu...

[I looked at your site, and while it seems well-meaning, it's extremely
vague. For instance, nowhere do you say how young one must be to be
considered a "young artist" Is there a maximum age? A minimum?

It's also very short on specifics about what's actually happening in the
seminars themselves. No particular cities or even countries are mentioned,
nor are any actual artists. There's no art on the site (except the pretty
but anonymous pictures of sunsets) or any idea what sort of aesthetics are
favored (if any). If you are, as you say, promoting art, why aren't you
using any of your webspace to do it? People are encouraged to start having
these seminars - and arrange exhibitions- in their home cities and
countries, but no examples are given of what may be expected to occur, who
has participated (either as sponsor or artist), or what wonderful things
happened with the 25 young artists you mention as having benefitted from
this so far (since the year 2000). Perhaps if you put the contents of your
(3 separate) newsletters online, some of these concerns might be addressed.

I think your funding would be better spent on printing some images of
participating artists' work and distributing them as postcard packets,
instead of on producing coffee mugs, mousepads, tee-shirts, etc. emblazoned
with your (drab) logo. Why would anybody want a "collectable" (sic)
tee-shirt featuring an organization nobody's ever heard of? And while it's
nice that you've listed a lot of international museums under "resources", if
young artists could get their work into any of them, they could teach their
own seminars.

So far, this looks like a successful grant proposal, not a viable plan for
an organization. If someone really wants to gather a bunch of young artists
together and exhibit their work locally, what do they need you for? Just to
collect their dues? I don't mean to seem like I'm disparaging your idea, but
you have to offer something a little more concrete - a chance to meet
foreign artists (who?) exhibit abroad (where?) get help with real issues
artists face (what?), be informed about upcoming events and exhibitions they
could apply to (when?), or even just to discuss the contemporary art world
and what an artist must do to fit into it (why?). Young artists need all
this, but most are even less inclined to exchange their hard-earned cash for
vague promises than I am...]

Andrew Werby
http://unitedartworks.com

Bill GirarD

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Mar 16, 2002, 8:09:43 PM3/16/02
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Andrew,
You sure come to the point. Right on my friend. Sites like that take
advantage of artists everyday and no one says anything. Well said Andrew.
bill
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Bill GirarD
Fine Art
http://www.billgirard.com

Polymer Clay
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=zaaxs

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Andrew Werby

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Mar 18, 2002, 12:11:17 PM3/18/02
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"Bill GirarD" <billg...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Andrew,
> You sure come to the point. Right on my friend. Sites like that take
> advantage of artists everyday and no one says anything. Well said Andrew.
> bill
> --
> Bill GirarD
> Fine Art
> http://www.billgirard.com

[Thanks, Bill. Someone in RAF rooted out this link for the main
organization: http://www.msbc-group.com/franchise/html/art.html . It sounds
like they're trying to franchise everything, not just art.]

Andrew Werby
http://unitedartworks.com

Dan S

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Mar 23, 2002, 11:06:28 AM3/23/02
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Here's another one

Gary Oblock

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Mar 23, 2002, 2:55:18 PM3/23/02
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Does anyone ever really benefit from these sites? With a yearly fee
of $249 they surely can't expect someone like myself to justify
using them. In a short visit to the site I found that there are some
good sculptors on the site but none of them seemed to be at
the top of the profession (i.e. I certainly didn't run across the
names of any fellows of the NSS on the site). Do these sculptors
make a significant number of sales that they can definitively
attribute to this or any similar site? I'd like to additionally note that I
had previously seen most of these sculptors own web sites via other
links before seeing their work on sculptSITE.

-- Gary Oblock
Bronze Dreams
Santa Clara, CA
http://www.bronzedreams.com

Dan S wrote:

> Here's another one
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>
> Subject: Selling Sculpture
> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:41:21 -0800
> From: "Bill West" <in...@sculpSITE.com>
> To: arch...@earthlink.net
>
> To: Dan Spector
>
> sculpSITE.com is the sculpture portal on the Internet. We have a very special
> feature called SCULPTURE SEARCH.
> SCULPTURE SEARCH is a visual search engine index for Sculpture.
> People the world over can search by SUBJECT, SIZE, MEDIA, STYLE, CATEGORY, etc.,
> and SEE visual results!
> After all, Sculpture is a visual medium. Let people find your work visually.
>
> It's quite easy. Click here to go to http://www.sculptSITE.com and click on the
> white "SCULPTURESEARCH" button to the upper left.
> Pick a subject and thumbnail images come up that match that subject, click on
> the thumbnail image and a large image comes up
> with all pertinent info and it LINKS TO YOUR WEB SITE!
>
> Less than 70 cents a day for people to find your work...as amany pieces as you
> have!
>
> Bill West
> Director
>
> The sculptSITE Staff
>
> sculptSITE
> http://www.sculptSITE.com
> The Internet Portal for Sculpture
> "Where Sculpture finds it's place"
> Registration/Authentication services
> for Sculptors and their Sculpture
> `````````````````````````````````
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> Scottsdale, Arizona
> 85261 USA
> (800)745-9404 toll free U.S.
> (480)451-5435 local/international
> (480)451-0410 fax
> e-mail: in...@sculptSITE.com
> http://www.sculpMARK.com

Frank Egan

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Mar 27, 2002, 2:21:16 AM3/27/02
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Gary Oblock wrote:

> Does anyone ever really benefit from these sites? With a yearly fee
> of $249 they surely can't expect someone like myself to justify
> using them. In a short visit to the site I found that there are some
> good sculptors on the site but none of them seemed to be at
> the top of the profession (i.e. I certainly didn't run across the
> names of any fellows of the NSS on the site). Do these sculptors
> make a significant number of sales that they can definitively
> attribute to this or any similar site? I'd like to additionally note that I
> had previously seen most of these sculptors own web sites via other
> links before seeing their work on sculptSITE.
>
> -- Gary Oblock
> Bronze Dreams
> Santa Clara, CA
> http://www.bronzedreams.com
>
> Dan S wrote:
>
> > Here's another one
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> > To: Dan Spector


>
> > Less than 70 cents a day for people to find your work...as amany pieces as you
> > have!

Thanks Dan and Gary. At ''70 cents a day" they would have to drive 7 hits a day
to make it worth my while. I'm less concerned with the dollar volume invested than
the result of driving targeted customers to my site. I'd throw $25 for one month to
test their claim. A dime a hit is my max unless they are really strong or the keyword
is one that I really need to own. My strongest driver is at 4.6 cents and my highest
bid is 22 cents for a specific keyword.

Frank Egan
http://www.eganbronze.com
"Light the Planet"

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