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Val

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:51:39 PM11/30/09
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( sticking teeny hoofee in to check temps...)

Lesley Robertson

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>( sticking teeny hoofee in to check temps...)


Pleasantly warm today, considering it's 1 December!
Lesley Robertson

Val

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On Dec 1, 3:09 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
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74 here yesterday-cant wait to see what daylight brings1
thanx, btw-I dont have much time sense, paranoia starting to gknibble
teeny eeerss

Bryn Fraser

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:52:58 PM12/15/09
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Stay off that stuff for Godsakes!

Many fungi are toxic...

Bryn

Val

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odeer! too late! seeing tiny colored lites floating before beady
eyes...hic...

Ejaycee

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40 celcius here today - no wonder I can't get into the Christmas mode.....
hot winds and all......

Put the washing out and by the time I'd finished the line it was time
to bring it back in again....

Ejay


Val

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On Dec 16, 12:53 am, "Ejaycee" <geneli...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 1, 3:09 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
> wrote:
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> > "Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:4ccf82b7-1d52-49d2...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
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> > >( sticking teeny hoofee in to check temps...)
>
> > Pleasantly warm today, considering it's 1 December!
> > Lesley Robertson
>
> 74 here yesterday-cant wait to see what daylight brings1
> thanx, btw-I dont have much time sense, paranoia starting to gknibble
> teeny eeerss
>
> 40 celcius here today - no wonder I can't get into the Christmas mode.....
> hot winds and all......
>
> Put the washing out and by the time I'd finished the line it was time
> to bring it back in again....
>
> Ejay

o golly! I recall what line-dried clothes smelt like-Lovely! the
little paper bits for the dryer are scented, but not at all the same.

Lesley Robertson

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The temp's managed to hit the dizzy heights of 2C right now, but there's a
band of snow bearing down on us.....
I don't mind what it does now, as long as it warms up a bit before the
middle of Jan - I have a wedding in Dunkeld to get to!
Lesley Robertson


Ejaycee

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"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.ro...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
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>> wrote:
>snip> The temp's managed to hit the dizzy heights of 2C right now, but
>there's a band of snow bearing down on us.....
> I don't mind what it does now, as long as it warms up a bit before the
> middle of Jan - I have a wedding in Dunkeld to get to!
> Lesley Robertson\

I vaguely remember putting nappies on the line and at 4 pm they were still
stiff with frost
Then it was a case of putting them round the fire on the fire
guard...................
another life time altogether :-)

Ejay

Lesley Robertson

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We've had snow in the night! Predictably it's doubled all travel times......
If I hear one more person singing White Christmas, I won't be resonsible for
my actions.
Bah Humbug!
Lesley Robertson


Reverend David of the Clan Gunn

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On Dec 17, 3:43 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
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> "Ejaycee" <geneli...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message

> >news:26b43$4b28d631$83b4502b$26...@news1.tudelft.nl...
> >>> wrote:
> >>snip> The temp's managed to hit the dizzy heights of 2C right now, but
> >>there's a band of snow bearing down on us.....
> >> I don't mind what it does now, as long as it warms up a bit before the
> >> middle of Jan - I have a wedding in Dunkeld to get to!
> >> Lesley Robertson\
>
> > I vaguely remember putting nappies on the line and at 4 pm they were still
> > stiff with frost
> > Then it was a case of putting them round the fire on the fire
> > guard...................
> > another life time altogether   :-)
>
> We've had snow in the night! Predictably it's doubled all travel times......
> If I hear one more person singing White Christmas, I won't be resonsible for
> my actions.
> Bah Humbug!
> Lesley Robertson- Hide quoted text -
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LOL well, we have been around -16C for most of the last two weeks,
with about 6 inches of snow and fierce winds that take it down
another 10 degrees (although it did warm up a bit and got to 0 on
Monday). Normally we don't get this kind of cold til Jan, but it is a
winter wonderland in Elgin (lol Elgin, IL west of Chicago, not Elgin
Scotland). Happy Humbug.

Val

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On Dec 16, 4:44 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
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Still warm here-about 60F-but I seem to have code in node so getting
fair share of winter misery. bah, Humbug indeed!

Val

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> "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message

heh-and clotheslines strung across the kitchen to take advantage of
coal stove...

Ejaycee

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On Dec 17, 3:43 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
wrote:
> "Ejaycee" <geneli...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
> > "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
> >>> wrote:
> >>snip> The temp's managed to hit the dizzy heights of 2C right now, but
> >>there's a band of snow bearing down on us.....
> >> I don't mind what it does now, as long as it warms up a bit before the
> >> middle of Jan - I have a wedding in Dunkeld to get to!
> >> Lesley Robertson\
>
> > I vaguely remember putting nappies on the line and at 4 pm they were
> > still stiff with frost Then it was a case of putting them round the fire
> > on the fire
> > guard...................
> > another life time altogether :-)
>
> We've had snow in the night! Predictably it's doubled all travel
> times......
> If I hear one more person singing White Christmas, I won't be resonsible
> for my actions.
> Bah Humbug!
> Lesley Robertson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL well, we have been around -16C for most of the last two weeks,
with about 6 inches of snow and fierce winds that take it down
another 10 degrees (although it did warm up a bit and got to 0 on
Monday). Normally we don't get this kind of cold til Jan, but it is a
winter wonderland in Elgin (lol Elgin, IL west of Chicago, not Elgin
Scotland). Happy Humbug.

Maybe nows not the time to comment we had a breezy 40c yesterday and by the
time I'd finished hanging the washing, it was dry enough to come
in so I just unpegged it all again.

Ejay


Lesley Robertson

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"Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> Maybe nows not the time to comment we had a breezy 40c yesterday and by
> the
> time I'd finished hanging the washing, it was dry enough to come
> in so I just unpegged it all again.
>
If you're not careful, I'll mention hedgehogs......

The north of the country got about 40cm. We didn't get so much, but
virtually everything stopped - trains off, roads blocked..... Fortunately
the trams seem to keep going, no matter what!
It's lovely right now, but they say Sunday's going to be bad.
Remember, when you send out the St Bernards, I like Highland Park in the
barrel.
Lesley Robertson


Lesley Robertson

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:49:03 AM12/18/09
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"Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And those things that look like horizontal fencing on a hoist so that
clothes could dry above head level in the kitchen.
One of my most treasured gadgets at this time of year is my dryer!
Lesley Robertson


S Viemeister

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Dec 18, 2009, 7:20:42 AM12/18/09
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Lesley Robertson wrote:
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> And those things that look like horizontal fencing on a hoist so that
> clothes could dry above head level in the kitchen.
>
I have one of those over my Rayburn - very handy, it is.

> One of my most treasured gadgets at this time of year is my dryer!
>
>

Even handier.

Ejaycee

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> "Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Maybe nows not the time to comment we had a breezy 40c yesterday and by
>> the
>> time I'd finished hanging the washing, it was dry enough to come
>> in so I just unpegged it all again.
>>
> If you're not careful, I'll mention hedgehogs......

and that would certainly make me thinkof snow........

Ejay

Ejaycee

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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Would you believe I have had my washing machine cum dryer for 5 years now
and still haven't used the dryer.

Ejay


Ejaycee

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"Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Val do you live in one of those strange places like an American friend of
mine where you are not allowed to hang washing outside to dry?

Ejay

Reverend David of the Clan Gunn

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:09:45 AM12/18/09
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Hmmmm I remember my childhood when we used to hang the clothes outside
to dry.
While I remember it smelling great I also remember what a pain in the
ass it was when
it was NOT warm out. : ) I LOVE my dryer lol

S Viemeister

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In warm, dry weather, I rarely use the dryer. When it's wet and cold,
though...

Lesley Robertson

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"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
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I got so sick of clothes horses with damp washing in my last flat that I
pomised myself a dryer when I finally bought my own place. As you say, on
good drying days, it doesn't get used (excpet when the fish smokery down the
road is in operation), but in the winter, it's wonderful!
One of my earlier memories is sitting in my Aunt's kitchen in Dundee, and
trying to avoid drips from the overhead rack! There were some things she
wouldn't put through the mangle.
Lesley Robertson


Loudon Briggs

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"Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote:


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>
>LOL well, we have been around -16C for most of the last two weeks,
>with about 6 inches of snow and fierce winds that take it down
>another 10 degrees (although it did warm up a bit and got to 0 on
>Monday). Normally we don't get this kind of cold til Jan, but it is a
>winter wonderland in Elgin (lol Elgin, IL west of Chicago, not Elgin
>Scotland). Happy Humbug.
>
>Maybe nows not the time to comment we had a breezy 40c yesterday and by the
>time I'd finished hanging the washing, it was dry enough to come
>in so I just unpegged it all again.
>
>Ejay

*****

Ejay, if you were living in Elgin in early '85, I'm guessing you
really know what "cold" is. The day we left the Chicago area for warm
Arizona, they experienced their coldest day ever... -27�F (-33�C) on
January 20, 1985, with a wind chill of -83�F (-64�C).

Then, just for payback for leaving, we were here in AZ on June 26,
1990, the hottest day ever in Phoenix... it hit +122 degrees F. To add
to the pleasure of that "warm" feeling, the next day, while out
shopping, my wife nudged me and pointed at a young man... he was
wearing a Tshirt that was emblazoned with this... 6+26+90 = 122. I'm
afraid my 90 year old mind just doesn't work that fast. :)

--
Loudon Briggs lar...@bbz.net Phoenix, Arizona, USA)

Robert Peffers

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"Reverend David of the Clan Gunn" <silnt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I fitted and designed my cottage myself. Unlike all the neighbours, who
moved the old copper hot water storage tanks into the roof space, I
installed a new gas boiler beneath the hot water tank. A set of slatted
shelves below that with the central heating pump and a bit of piping at
floor level and louvered doors to allow air circulation. Since then, early
1970s, that drying cupboard has dried a lot of washing. Furthermore the
convected warn air heats the kitchen.
--

Auld Bob


Reverend David of the Clan Gunn

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Now that is effecient.

Reverend David of the Clan Gunn

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On Dec 18, 10:42 am, Loudon Briggs <lar...@bbz.net> wrote:

Well, I don't know if Ejay was living in Elgin in 85 but I was and I
remember it being very cold that whole winter. Now, I have never been
to Arizona but I have always heard it is a dry heat lol Then I went to
Saudi Arabia in August of 1990 (waiting for the first Gulf war to
start) and it got to about 117 degrees. Yes, it was a dry heat but it
was still hot as heck. I don't even want to imagine 122
degrees. : )

Val

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On Dec 18, 1:49 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
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and those folding racks that were worse than beach chairs to get
untangled! Love my dryer too-but it still doesnt smell as nice!

Robert Peffers

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"Reverend David of the Clan Gunn" <silnt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Now that is effecient.


You have no idea the number of things that hot cupboard gets to do. I dry
herbs and flowers on a rack. When making repairs using Araldite or such like
the go into the cupboard. The outdoor jacket hangs there either to dry after
being out or nice and warm for going out. It's great for rising the home
baked bread too. Then, of course it airs the clothes after they are dried.
--

Auld Bob


Ejaycee

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"Robert Peffers" <peff...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I fitted and designed my cottage myself. Unlike all the neighbours, who
> moved the old copper hot water storage tanks into the roof space, I
> installed a new gas boiler beneath the hot water tank. A set of slatted
> shelves below that with the central heating pump and a bit of piping at
> floor level and louvered doors to allow air circulation. Since then, early
> 1970s, that drying cupboard has dried a lot of washing. Furthermore the
> convected warn air heats the kitchen.
> --
>
> Auld Bob

I fondly remember the fire with the back boiler and the airing
cupboard that was an offshoot from this. It was great for finishing off
nappies in the winter. We often had to run the hot water off to waste.
No central heating in thosedays :-)

However the back boiler was problem if the fire ever went out and the
water froze.........I can remember in the winter of 1961
when we a particularly severe frost that lasted 6 weeks.
I was sick and pregnant and had crawled into bed in a fever so the fire
went out
and hubby came home from work to a cold house, a 1 year old crying in his
cot
and me delirous in the other bedroom and every pipe in the house frozen.

What a job to defrost them from the taps backwards using a blow lamp.
and not one pipe burst. He even had to take the cladding off the inbuilt
bath.

Ejay


Ejaycee

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> Ejaycee wrote:
>> "S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
>> news:7p1acr...@mid.individual.net...

>>>> One of my most treasured gadgets at this time of year is my dryer!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Even handier.
>>
>> Would you believe I have had my washing machine cum dryer for 5 years now
>> and still haven't used the dryer.
>>
> In warm, dry weather, I rarely use the dryer. When it's wet and cold,
> though...

I'd love bit of wet and cold - especially the wet bit.........

Ejay


Ejaycee

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"Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 18, 1:49 am, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robert...@tnw.tudelft.nl>
> "Val" <dzq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> On Dec 17, 12:46 am, "Ejaycee" <geneli...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > I vaguely remember putting nappies on the line and at 4 pm they were
> > still
> > stiff with frost
> > Then it was a case of putting them round the fire on the fire
> > guard...................
> > another life time altogether :-)
>
> > Ejay
>
> heh-and clotheslines strung across the kitchen to take advantage of
> coal stove...
>
> And those things that look like horizontal fencing on a hoist so that
> clothes could dry above head level in the kitchen.
> One of my most treasured gadgets at this time of year is my dryer!
> Lesley Robertson

and those folding racks that were worse than beach chairs to get
untangled! Love my dryer too-but it still doesnt smell as nice!

We did use a dryer at our guest house becausethe laundery was up stairs
and wet sheets weigh a ton; but I didn't really like it for myown washing as
I thought it shrank and hardened things.

Ejay


Ejaycee

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"Loudon Briggs" <lar...@bbz.net> wrote in message
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> "Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Ejay, if you were living in Elgin in early '85, I'm guessing you
> really know what "cold" is. The day we left the Chicago area for warm
> Arizona, they experienced their coldest day ever... -27�F (-33�C) on
> January 20, 1985, with a wind chill of -83�F (-64�C).
>
> Then, just for payback for leaving, we were here in AZ on June 26,
> 1990, the hottest day ever in Phoenix... it hit +122 degrees F. To add
> to the pleasure of that "warm" feeling, the next day, while out
> shopping, my wife nudged me and pointed at a young man... he was
> wearing a Tshirt that was emblazoned with this... 6+26+90 = 122. I'm
> afraid my 90 year old mind just doesn't work that fast. :)
>
> --
> Loudon Briggs

No Loudon I wasn't in Elgin in '85 , either Scotland or USA.
I've never been to either.
'85 I was right here in Melbourne. The hottest we have had was
one day of extreme heat and wind last year when it reached 45 - 47 c
and the hydroponic tomatoes cooked on the vine. and the whole
State seemed on fire

Ejay


Robert Peffers

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"Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Yes! That was the type of system I inherited when we bought the cottage. It
did, though, have a single panel radiator in each room too. We did have a
Winter very like the one you speak of when something quite similar happened.
That was why I re-designed the system.

The fireplace now has a gas fire fitted in the recess. The old back boiler
is still there but is now cut off from the hot water cylinder with a couple
of stopcocks. So I did have a rudimentary central heating system to start
with. Much of the domestic water system was surface mounted and boxed in. To
my horror I discovered that whoever did the plumbing before me had installed
new copper pipes but only as far as the boxed in sections, behind which it
was lead piped.

So it was rolled up sleeves and a complete re-plumb of the domestic system.
I took the chance to do a complete new bathroom and made a built in kitchen
from scratch, with no bought in kitchen units, everything was hand built.
That was when I brought the water heating system all together into the
purpose built cupboard that was to become the drying cupboard. Believe me it
is efficient enough to dry washing right out of the spin dryer from the
washing machine, (which is fitted next to it).

The louvered doors have the middle parts blanked off with only the very
bottom and top sections retaining open louvers. This is what makes it so
efficient as it draws cooler air in at the bottom and it is heated by the
pipes, pump, boiler and cylinder and convects warn air from the top. The
great difference from the standard system is that the working parts are all
one above the other and the stat turns the pump off along with the boiler.

One other little crafty touch is that the cold water header tanks are in the
roof space directly above that drying cupboard and the loft insulation goes
up and over them but the little bit of loft above the drying cupboard not
insulated so the tanks are beneath the loft insulation but have heat rising
through the ceiling beneath them. Even in the worst Winters we have never
had a frozen tank, or burst pipe, ever since.

Well except for the one going to the kitchen radiator that has the inlet
pipe next to a built in unit's support that I was drilling to fit kickboards
to and I drilled ... ... ...
Err! Yes! But that's another story.
--

Auld Bob


Loudon Briggs

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"Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

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>No Loudon I wasn't in Elgin in '85 , either Scotland or USA.
>I've never been to either.
>'85 I was right here in Melbourne. The hottest we have had was
>one day of extreme heat and wind last year when it reached 45 - 47 c
> and the hydroponic tomatoes cooked on the vine. and the whole
>State seemed on fire
>
>Ejay

*****

Sorry! Apparently I misunderstood this posting...

(QUOTE)


LOL well, we have been around -16C for most of the last two weeks,
with about 6 inches of snow and fierce winds that take it down
another 10 degrees (although it did warm up a bit and got to 0 on
Monday). Normally we don't get this kind of cold til Jan, but it is a
winter wonderland in Elgin (lol Elgin, IL west of Chicago, not Elgin
Scotland). Happy Humbug.

(UNQUOTE)

Loudon

Lesley Robertson

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"Ejaycee" <gene...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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You can have some of mine! We're up to our ears in snow (most for 35
years) - all public transport cancelled and the roads like skating
rinks!
Lesley Robertson


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