about Post-modernism
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Naomi wrote in message <8njo6u$nj...@imsp212.netvigator.com>...
>Dear all,
> Can anyone suggestion me some reading about the origin of
>post-modernism? How does it affect the development of social science?
>Naomi
>
You dont say what level you are looking for Naomi.
However, I'll hazard a guess.
There is a lttle paperback called "Postmodernity" by Barry Smart (1994) in
the "Key Ideas" series published for the Open University by Routledge. ISBN
0 -115 - 06961 - 0.
The book offers both a historical view and definitions of modernity and post
modernity and relates the concept to key players and key areas in sociology
and gives a good assessment of the problems with the concept also.
Good intro for first year degree or "A" level.
Zack
My education did not prepare me for an understanding of the various
levels of training available in countries other than the US. Can
somebody please explain what all this stuff is about "A Level", "First
Year Degree", etc. and relate it to the Freshman, Sophomore, Junior,
Senior; High School, Jr. College, College/University, Graduate, and
Post-Graduate system that I actually know something about.
Something tells me I'm expecting 15-year old kids in the UK to
understand stuff that might be difficult for a University Senior to
grasp.
--
P. Zack Hilliard, M.A. - Clinical Sociologist.
"Every Man His Own Methodologist! Methodologists!
Get To Work!" C. Wright Mills - 1959
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Before you buy.
Fabio Rojas
if you haven't already done so. If you're new, I'd start with
Lyotard who is a self-labeled post-modernist. After you read the
"greatest hits" of PM and have developed some of your
own thoughts on the subject, I'd recommend that you read
some secondary sources. A number of commentaries have been written
and you might start with something like Madan Sarup's or
Jane Flax's books.
After that, if you aren't going totally bonkers yet, I'd recommend
reading journal articles. A few years back the American Journal
of Sociology published a long article on the impact of PM on
sociology. The American Sociological Review in Feb 2000 published
a lengthy article on PM. It's interesting.
Then you might compare what people have written in the big anthro,
poli sci, history and econ journals. I suspect that PM is completely
absent from economic journals, confined to "political theory" in poli sci
and discussed in detail in history and anthro journals. Don't
trust me, go look it up yourself. It might be useful to compare
fields and see what the difference is.
Good luck.
-fabio
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naomi
Eire
A Level is the UK equivalent of 12th Grade - the year in which the SATs are
taken. A Levels are similar University entrance examinations.
First Year of a Bachelors Degree is the first year of University, which I
think is Freshman year in America, although I'm not sure. Perhaps somebody
else will have more insight into this little dilemma of international
educational equivalencies!
Regards. Éire.
David Huffer
postmodern social theory. "summarizing" postmodern theory flies in the face
of the essence of the perspective, but start with Ritzer's _Postmodern
Social Theory_ for a non-postmodern discussion of postmodernity. Lyotard's
text is a classic (the PM condition). And for a glimpse at some of the work
in PM look into some of Buadrillard's and Bauman's work.
David Huffer
Adrien Verlee
Fabio Rojas <f...@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> wrote in message
> First, I'd recommend that you read a lot of the "post-modernists"
> if you haven't already done so. If you're new, I'd start with
There is also Sokal & Bricmont: Impostures Intellectuelles. I do not
know the English title.
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>There is also Sokal & Bricmont: Impostures Intellectuelles. I do not
>know the English title.
English title is "Fashionable Nonsense" - and it is well worth a read. Costs
about a tenner and is available from Amazon uk.
naomi
Thanks for all your help
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MF.musique-et-culture
to get a wrong interpretation. sorry, but "inévitable" to understand his
thouhgts.
By the way: the expression "postmodernism" comes from an architectural
background. As far as I know, it was a congress at Athens (Greece) in the
nineteenfifties, where this was discussed. Moral (ans social) sciences took
it later from this context.
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>By the way: the expression "postmodernism" comes from an architectural
>background. As far as I know, it was a congress at Athens (Greece) in the
>nineteenfifties, where this was discussed. Moral (ans social) sciences took
>it later from this context.
There is also a difference in approach between those who advocate
postmodernism and those who advocate Post Modernism<g> .
But if we start making distinctions such as this for those who are beginners
in this field we also run the risk of complicating sociology to the point
where its one big turn off!
>
MF.musique-et-culture
Lyotard, Jean-François: Le postmoderne expliqué aux enfants. Correspondance
1982-1985, Paris [Éditions Galilée] 1988.
Furthermore:
Koslowski, Peter: Die postmoderne Kultur. Gesellschaftlich-kulturelle
Konsequenzen der technischen Entwicklung (=Schriftenreihe des
Bundeskanzleramtes, Bd. 2), München [C.H. Beck] 1987.
And:
Welsch. Wolfgang:
Unsere postmoderne Postmoderne (Reihe: Acta humaniora), Winheim [VCH] 1987,
therein especially pages 12ff, where you get as short as precise definitions
for beginners and other interested people.
And don´t sophistcate between spelling-forms "postmodernism" vs. "Post
Modernism". Or should I ask you to write about in German.
Feel also free to go back to the roots, and you will more or less have a
groundtouch in between Nietzsche´s.
CU
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> Cool down! And read:
>
> Lyotard, Jean-François: Le postmoderne expliqué aux enfants.
Correspondance
> 1982-1985, Paris [Éditions Galilée] 1988.
>
> Furthermore:
> Koslowski, Peter: Die postmoderne Kultur. Gesellschaftlich-kulturelle
> Konsequenzen der technischen Entwicklung (=Schriftenreihe des
> Bundeskanzleramtes, Bd. 2), München [C.H. Beck] 1987.
>
> And:
> Welsch. Wolfgang:
MF.musique-et-culture
Contact
Prof. Dr. Heinz-Werner Wollersheim M.A.
at the Leipzig´ University, department of educational sciences (he might
have an e-mail adress).
MF.musique-et-culture <MF.musique...@t-online.de> schrieb in im
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> Cool down! And read:
>
> Lyotard, Jean-François: Le postmoderne expliqué aux enfants.
Correspondance
> 1982-1985, Paris [Éditions Galilée] 1988.
>
> Furthermore:
> Koslowski, Peter: Die postmoderne Kultur. Gesellschaftlich-kulturelle
> Konsequenzen der technischen Entwicklung (=Schriftenreihe des
> Bundeskanzleramtes, Bd. 2), München [C.H. Beck] 1987.
>
> And:
> Welsch. Wolfgang:
MF.musique-et-culture
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The correct spelling of "Winheim" (WRONG) is "Weinheim" (CORRECT). Sorry.
> Welsch. Wolfgang:
> Unsere postmoderne Postmoderne (Reihe: Acta humaniora), Weinheim [VCH]
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<<<<>Cool down! And read:>>>>>
Whats the problem? I dont see any justification for this comment.
I am English. I dont speak German. I dont live in Germany. I have no reason
to "cool down" since I am not *hot*. Further, I am not an advocate of post
modernism or post modernism for that matter . I prefer Sokel's argument.
<g>
Whilst I may have sufficient background to deal with the reading matter you
suggest , ( indeed have done) , the student who made the request here
certainly has not.
The original correspondent is probably no more than 17 years old and just
starting out in her sociology studies. I think it only fair and honest to
gear the reading to the level of the request , at least in the first
instance.
MF.musique-et-culture
aujourd´hui sont suffisamment dégagées pour notre propos." (Lyotard,
Jean-François: La Condition postmoderne. Rapport sur le savoir. (Collection
Critique) Paris [Les Éditions de Minuit] 1985 [1ère parution 1979], p. 98
(début de la section 14).
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