Re: TUNNELING NANOTUBES
Hammond reply to Redford
<jrre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:13:32 -0500, George Hammond
><Nowh...@notspam.com> wrote:
>>
[Hammond]
>> HOWEVER..... Hammond's microtubule-resurrection theory
>>DOES HAVE "continuity".... i.e. it actually DOES resurrect
>>(reanimate) the actual dead body... it resurrects the dead
>>person's own body!
>> So, NO, Hammond's microtubule-resurrection mechanism DOES
>>NOT "commit the continuity fallacy".... while on the other
>>hand, Tipler's Omega Point "life in a computer" theory
>>clearly DOES!
>
>
[James Redford]
>Logically speaking, an exact emulation of you is you. If it were not,
>then this would violate the Law of Identity in the field of logic, and
>thus it would be a logical contradiction. An exact emulation of, e.g.,
>a human is merely a very large number (per the Bekenstein Bound).
>Indeed, even the entire lifetime of a human can be perfectly described
>by a single number--a tremendously large number compared to the
>numbers we're used to dealing with, but still quite finite.
>
>To suppose that an exact emulation is not the thing being emulated
>would be the same as thinking that 3765258724 does not = 3765258724,
>i.e., that there is something about the number 3765258724 on the
>left-hand side which makes it nonequivalent to the version on the
>right-hand side. But this is a logical contradiction, as it violates
>the Law of Identity that A = A.
>
>So as sure as one can maintain that A = A (and one can be certain of
>this), then one can be confident that your resurrected self will be
>you in every possible way, and that your consciousness will continue.
>Again, to think otherwise involves a logical contradiction.
>
>----------------------------------------
>
>James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science
>Research Network (SSRN), revised and expanded edition, October 17,
>2009 (originally published December 19, 2001)
>http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 ,
>http://www.webcitation.org/5tsc7yJAM ,
>http://theophysics.ifastnet.com/anarchist-jesus.html
>
>Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (a website with information
>on Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the quantum gravity
>Theory of Everything [TOE]) http://theophysics.chimehost.net ,
>http://theophysics.host56.com
>
>
[Hammond]
Hi James, very please to hear from you. I've taken a
look at your website and your book and am glad to find that
you have an intellectually mature outlook on both science
and religion.
On the subject of Frank Tipler let me make the following
comment: One has to be wary of great physicists when they
wander into the field of theology and psychology. For
instance let me list the following famous historic faux pas
made by great physicists:
1)
Isaac Newton wandered into theology and became convinced
that the theory of the Trinity was a heresy and that no such
thing actually existed. It turns out that he was dead
wrong, and today we know that the Trinity is the fundamental
cybernetic (trinary) feedback loop of input-output-feedback
controlling the development of the human mind which was
discovered and named the Father-Son-Holy Ghost centuries
ago by the Catholic Church. Because of Newton's objections
he was nearly excommunicated from the Anglican Church and
nearly fired from his professorship at Oxford. All because
of his tragic and na�ve blunder.
2)
Albert Einstein said in print many times that he did not
believe in a personal God i.e. an anthropomorphic God. It
turns out that he was dead wrong , and modern science
(Hammond, 2003) has now discovered an absolute airtight
proof that the God of the Bible IS an anthropomorphic God
and does exist . Another tragic and na�ve blunder by a
world-famous physicist.
3)
Prof. Frank Tipler is an internationally prominent
relativity physicist who wowed the scientific community at
an early age with his discovery of time travel vis-�-vis the
Tipler cylinder . Unfortunately Frank decided to look into
theology and the first blunder he made was to presume that
the term "eternal life" means "living forever "; WHICH IT
DOES NOT ! this is as big a blunder as an engineer not
being able to tell the difference between an odometer and a
speedometer!
Frank's mistake is even more ironic since he is an expert
in relativity and knows very well what difference between a
"time dilation" and a "time duration". Theologically
speaking the term "eternal life" means living with "zero
time dilation" and only a child would believe that it means
"living forever". The idea of a human being living for
millions and billions and trillions of years is a ludicrous
and patent absurdity which only a total and complete novice
in the theory of psychology and theology could make. Again
an egregious and na�ve blunder by a brilliant physicist
rushing into unfamiliar territory!
Finally, I have to mention here that there is another
well known flaw in Tipler's Omega point theory, and he is
well aware of it. And that is the argument between
"continuity identity" and "pattern identity". Tipler's
computer does not have "continuity identity" it only has
"pattern identity". Tipler is well aware of this problem by
the way and he discusses it at length in his 1994 book "The
Physics of Immortality" in chapter IX.
To my way of thinking, the idea of "pattern
resurrection", that is the "life in a computer" theory, is
considerably speculative. On the other hand the modern
scientific discovery of the microtubule-cytoskeleton
computer in the human brain, now appears to make the pattern
theory totally irrelevant! It turns out we already have an
actual "body continuity" computer built into the human
brain in the cytoskeleton. Tipler of Course was totally
unaware of this in 1994 when he wrote the book. So without
even mentioning the fact that Tipler's computer requires
conquering the entire visible universe and turning it into a
computer, I think it is a foregone conclusion that a simple
and direct "continuity resurrection" by the resident onboard
cytoskeleton computer of the human brain is a far far more
compelling theory!!
This is not to say that Tipler's work is a useless folly
-- far far from it! Tipler's book is a work of genius and
contains what appears to be a very major and necessary piece
of the puzzle of life after death. And that comes about in
this way: In the first place, if all resurrection did was
revive us for another few years or decades of life, what
would be the use of that? Most people at age 70, 80 or 90
years of age WOULD NOT want to live life all over again, any
more than I want to watch re-run movies on television. What
would be the point of it?
WELL, it turns out that there is ANOTHER reason for the
afterlife. The purpose of the afterlife is not to just live
a little longer, is to live much GRANDER... in fact the
purpose of the afterlife is specifically to obtain a
"beatified body" and to see the "beatific vision". In
layman's terms what this means is that if you had a fully
grown body (and none of us do) then you would see TRUE
REALITY which is in fact a magnificent sight referred to as
the beatific vision. And furthermore because you would have
a fully grown body he would be living in "real time" not the
exhausting and exasperating and frightening "dilated time"
that our stunted and anemic 80% grown bodies experience (the
average human growth curve deficit uis about 20%). This
time dilation is the source of all fear, all pain and all
suffering, and all "evil". If we could see real-time we
would have what is known as "eternal life"... and it doesn't
matter how long you live in a condition of eternal life...
five minutes of enternal life is still eternal by
definition. So anyway, THAT is the purpose of the
afterlife.
Okay, so I've laid out a simple mechanism of how the body
could be resurrected at death into a virtual reality by a
Frohlich's Frequency (microwave) memory download to the
cytoskeleton. Okay, so all that would do is resurrect your
current 80% grown body. So the next question is, how does
this mechanism dream up a fully grown "beatified body" so
that we can see the awe-inspiring grandeur of the beatific
vision and physically be in possession (be in a condition)
of eternal life?
Well I haven't doped out the answer to that yet, but that
is where Frank Tipler's "physics of immortality" becomes the
only theoretical physics roadmap to finding the answer to
the problem! Which is why I carry Tipler's book around like
I was carrying a Bible!
Okay, in case you're not aware of it I'm using voice
dictation at 150 words a minute which is why I'm able to be
so garrulous. I won't write anymore here so as not to bore
you, but PLEASE try to respond to this message and write me
a few words because I very much appreciate a person like you
who has obviously spent a lot of time thinking about all
this. And by the way I wish to send the same message to
<Immortalist> Because I think that he has a basic curiosity
about the theory of life after death also.
As for myself I am only interested in one thing: finding
a simple and provable YES-NO insert to the question of
whether or not there is such a thing as life after death.
Matter of fact, I don't care one way or the other whether
the answer is yes or no.... I simply want to know the TRUTH.
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