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DarkMatter

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May 6, 2008, 10:37:12 AM5/6/08
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Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?

Jacob Krolo

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May 6, 2008, 11:50:38 AM5/6/08
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"DarkMatter" <darkma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?
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How I understand the answer is No, but more likely they (gas giants) have
rocky/iron core.

Jacob


David Williams

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May 6, 2008, 3:23:54 PM5/6/08
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-> Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?

There is almost certainly solid matter deep within them, some of which
may consist of hydrogen in a metallic state! Heavier elements, such as
the ones that make up the earth, must also be present, which would
probably be solid.

But it wouldn't be "land" like we know it. The temperature and pressure
would be extremely high, so everything would be white-hot.

dow

BradGuth

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May 11, 2008, 4:42:41 PM5/11/08
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On May 6, 7:37 am, DarkMatter <darkmatte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?

Planets like Jupiter with their horrific reverse gravity or anti-
gravity core could be as much as 10%r hollow.
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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May 11, 2008, 11:32:05 PM5/11/08
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On May 11, 1:42 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 7:37 am, DarkMatter <darkmatte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?

Jupiter most likely has a rocky surface. However, planets like
Jupiter with their horrific reverse gravity or anti-gravity core could


be as much as 10%r hollow.

Perhaps this is also why our moon has such a low density core.
. - Brad Guth

Ralph

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May 12, 2008, 8:44:06 AM5/12/08
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The interesting fiction with reference to anti-gravity and reverse gravity
is a cruel joke.
Use that information for jokes and failing grades only.

For real information on the planets, you might check out some sites with
someone who knows at least a little about the subject.
Try http://www.nineplanets.org/jupiter.html.
Take information from these groups with a huge dose of reality-check.


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BradGuth

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May 12, 2008, 12:29:34 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 5:44 am, "Ralph" <aj...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> The interesting fiction with reference to anti-gravity and reverse gravity
> is a cruel joke.
> Use that information for jokes and failing grades only.
>
> For real information on the planets, you might check out some sites with
> someone who knows at least a little about the subject.
> Tryhttp://www.nineplanets.org/jupiter.html.

> Take information from these groups with a huge dose of reality-check.
>
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:6cd495e1-7cc0-4a5c...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 11, 1:42 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On May 6, 7:37 am, DarkMatter <darkmatte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Do the gas giants like Jupiter have solid land like the earth does?
>
> > Jupiter most likely has a rocky surface. However, planets like
> > Jupiter with their horrific reverse gravity or anti-gravity core could
> > be as much as 10%r hollow.
>
> > Perhaps this is also why our moon has such a low density core.
> > . - Brad Guth

According to the regular laws of physics, the core of a given planet
or moon is clearly capable of representing less than zero gravity.

Starting at some point close to center, the gravity is not only near
zero but continually pulling you away from the actual center of
whatever planet or moon. It can't be any other way unless the core
started off as worth something of far greater density than anything
artificially or otherwise compressed.

This isn't saying that most any given planet or moon need be hollow,
just that it's technically possible.
. - Brad Guth

Ralph

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May 12, 2008, 3:05:13 PM5/12/08
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I'm sorry to dispute, Brad Guth.

The question was a basic one. The short answer was 'no'.
Opinions on theoretical possibilities are best left to someone wanting to
discuss them.

Entertaining though it might be, I have fun enough keeping up with science
reporting through regular avenues.

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BradGuth

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May 12, 2008, 3:55:17 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 12:05 pm, "Ralph" <aj...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> I'm sorry to dispute, Brad Guth.
>
> The question was a basic one. The short answer was 'no'.
> Opinions on theoretical possibilities are best left to someone wanting to
> discuss them.
>
> Entertaining though it might be, I have fun enough keeping up with science
> reporting through regular avenues.
>

But this anti-think-tank newsgroup/usenet is where so many folks
remain forever snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return,
as well as where history is continually distorted and/or recorded only
as necessary, and where other boat-rocking evidence is continually
banished or excluded in order to suit your mindset status quo. It's
exactly what intellectual cartels do best.

Your mainstream or swarm Borg like mindset that's a very happy camper
with subjective science that can't be peer replicated outside of your
intellectual cartel, is the gold-standard par for your status quo
course, as representing the only newsgroup (though be it large)
mindset that's clearly afraid of their own cloak and dagger shadow.
. - Brad Guth

Ralph

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May 14, 2008, 7:11:21 AM5/14/08
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Wow- I'm impresed. I'll admit, you can type, and form a sentence.

Spouting a conspiracy against your ideas, and bringing the fictional Borg
into a science topic is typical of a misunderstanding of the scientific
process.

I not only am happy that you have such "out of the box" ideas, I am pleased
that you take the time to present them to a limited public.
I do not discourage it.
Science is like that. All ideas that are subject to test, are encouraged.
Ideas that can or will have no testable proof are best left to philosophers.
Please feel free to provide some, or any proof.

If all you have is math, check how that's going with string theory. About
half the SCIENCE community that knows even a little about that, is not
ready to accept it.

...and by the way, I got over 90% in my calculus in high school.
It's given me some insight into practical ideas. (and a good recognition of
fantasy)

By all means, continue!

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BradGuth

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May 14, 2008, 9:49:35 AM5/14/08
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On May 14, 4:11 am, "Ralph" <aj...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> Wow- I'm impresed. I'll admit, you can type, and form a sentence.
>
> Spouting a conspiracy against your ideas, and bringing the fictional Borg
> into a science topic is typical of a misunderstanding of the scientific
> process.
>
> I not only am happy that you have such "out of the box" ideas, I am pleased
> that you take the time to present them to a limited public.
> I do not discourage it.
> Science is like that. All ideas that are subject to test, are encouraged.
> Ideas that can or will have no testable proof are best left to philosophers.
> Please feel free to provide some, or any proof.
>
> If all you have is math, check how that's going with string theory. About
> half the SCIENCE community that knows even a little about that, is not
> ready to accept it.
>
> ...and by the way, I got over 90% in my calculus in high school.
> It's given me some insight into practical ideas. (and a good recognition of
> fantasy)
>
> By all means, continue!
>

Spoken like another true DARPA brown-nosed minion.

A few good simulations using our public owned and otherwise 100%
funded supercomputers should do just fine and dandy. How about we use
that spendy new one on lone to JPL, of 2048 extremely fast CPUs.
. - Brad Guth

Ralph

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May 14, 2008, 10:48:22 AM5/14/08
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Feel free to invest your time and money as you wish on any computer you
wish.
Also feel free to fantasize as you wish, and name-call like a six year old.
Also feel free to never admit you're wrong. Science does.

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BradGuth

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May 14, 2008, 1:57:04 PM5/14/08
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So, you're giving me the authority and thus access to running a few
thousand complex simulations on the 2048 CPU supercomputer at JPL?

When is the bus leaving town (as headed for JPL), that I'm supposed to
be on. Or, is there merely an internet access granted version of that
supercomputer?
. - Brad Guth

Ralph

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May 14, 2008, 6:18:14 PM5/14/08
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Since I have no authority over you, your fantasies, JPL, or any
supercomputer,
- sure-

hop on a bus.

I think it leaves at 6.

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BradGuth

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May 14, 2008, 7:22:43 PM5/14/08
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Figured as much, coming from such a brown-nosed clown like yourself.

Ralph

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May 15, 2008, 1:11:37 PM5/15/08
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Wow- you really know how to show your (lack of) class.
- I think I'll go speak with my two-year-old great-nephew.
He's much more polite. (and probably better educated)
Have fun with your flaming and fantasies!

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