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BURT <macromi... @yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 5:39 pm
Subject: Its turtles all the way up
There is no need for God.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
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> There is no need for God.
The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
upwards would be unstable.
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl... @cox.net> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:09:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Dear Don Stockbauer:
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On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
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>> There is no need for God.
> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way
Whereas if it was turtles coming upwards, then they'd be on their
backs...
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p... @hovnanian.com> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:58:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote:
> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
Well, consider Mitch's point of view at the bottom of the heap.
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:06:25 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>There is no need for God.
> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
Fits well.
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Peter Fairbrother <zenadsl6... @zen.co.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:37:50 +0100
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>> On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> There is no need for God.
>> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
>> upwards would be unstable.
> Well, consider Mitch's point of view at the bottom of the heap.
But if it's turtles all the way down, forever, there *isn't* a bottom of
the heap.
I don't know whether that's encouraging or not - it means you can always
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From: "Vince Morgan" <vinharAtHereoptusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:02:28 +1000
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
"Peter Fairbrother" <zenadsl6
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> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> > Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >> On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> There is no need for God.
> >> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
> >> upwards would be unstable.
> > Well, consider Mitch's point of view at the bottom of the heap.
> But if it's turtles all the way down, forever, there *isn't* a bottom of
> I don't know whether that's encouraging or not - it means you can always
I do beleive this might be explained by the very recently develloped
'up,down' turtle direction duality. The bottom of one turtle pile is the
top of another.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:11:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 6 2008 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 6, 7:06 pm, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>There is no need for God.
> > The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
> Fits well.
The best way to handle an infinite regress is to make it circular, so
maybe it's turtles all the way down and turtles all the way up,
conjoined. Standing under the St. Louis Gateway Arch gives one a feel
for this.
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Douglas Berry <penguin_... @mindOBVIOUSspring.com> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:16:15 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 1:16 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com>
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>There is no need for God.
Heretic! There is but one turtle, the Great A'tun!
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From:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati... @comcast.net> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 01:29:29 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 1:29 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_
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> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com>
> carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>>There is no need for God.
> Heretic! There is but one turtle, the Great A'tun!
Shouldn't that be A'tuan?
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Firelock <firelock... @hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 1:36 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 6, 6:41 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba
... @hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 4:39 pm, BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > There is no need for God.
> The correct phrase is "it's turtles all the way down". Turtles going
"I know up on the top you are seeing great sights,
but down at the bottom we, too, should have rights!"
-- Yertle the Turtle, by Dr. Seuss
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"n... @bid.nes" <Alien8... @gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:11:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 6, 10:29 pm, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati
... @comcast.net> wrote:
> "Douglas Berry" <penguin_
... @mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
> news:qro6c4dkct8ruab01bbmutij462vm0tpok@4ax.com ...
> > On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) BURT <macromi... @yahoo.com>
> >>There is no need for God.
> > Heretic! There is but one turtle, the Great A'tun!
> Shouldn't that be A'tuan?
Great A'tuin!
http://www.lspace.org/books/whos-who/atuin.html
Mark L. Fergerson
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"Tom Potter" <tdp1... @yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:45:52 +0800
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Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
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Douglas Berry <penguin_... @mindOBVIOUSspring.com> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:15:06 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 10:15 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 01:29:29 -0400 "Michelle Malkin"
<hypati
... @comcast.net> carved the following into the hard stone of
alt.atheism
>"Douglas Berry" <penguin_
... @mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
>
news:qro6c4dkct8ruab01bbmutij462vm0tpok@4ax.com ...
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) BURT <macromi
... @yahoo.com>
>> carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>>>There is no need for God.
>> Heretic! There is but one turtle, the Great A'tun!
>Shouldn't that be A'tuan?
You say typo, I say new revelation and a theological split.
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:55:24 -0500
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 11:55 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
an advance for BURT.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 9:30 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
Maybe he could start dating models?
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:44:08 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 9:44 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
>>Tom Potter wrote:
>>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
>>>>There is no need for God.
>>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
>>>God is a Turtle!
>>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
> Maybe he could start dating models?
Only some particularly ugly ones.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 10:04 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 8, 8:44 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>Tom Potter wrote:
> >>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
> >>>>There is no need for God.
> >>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
> >>>God is a Turtle!
> >>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
> > Maybe he could start dating models?
> Only some particularly ugly ones.
I was thinking more like model airplanes.
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:33:33 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 11:33 am
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 8, 8:44 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
>>Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
>>>>Tom Potter wrote:
>>>>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
>>>>>>There is no need for God.
>>>>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
>>>>>God is a Turtle!
>>>>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
>>>Maybe he could start dating models?
>>Only some particularly ugly ones.
> I was thinking more like model airplanes.
Only some particularly ugly ones.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:55:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 8, 10:33 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 8, 8:44 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>>On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>>>Tom Potter wrote:
> >>>>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
> >>>>>>There is no need for God.
> >>>>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
> >>>>>God is a Turtle!
> >>>>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
> >>>Maybe he could start dating models?
> >>Only some particularly ugly ones.
> > I was thinking more like model airplanes.
> Only some particularly ugly ones.
Like, maybe, one stampeded on by cattle?
Or maybe a plane ridden in by a model that slammed into a skyscraper,
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:41:37 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 8, 10:33 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
>>Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>On Sep 8, 8:44 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
>>>>Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>>>On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
>>>>>>Tom Potter wrote:
>>>>>>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
>>>>>>>>There is no need for God.
>>>>>>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
>>>>>>>God is a Turtle!
>>>>>>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
>>>>>Maybe he could start dating models?
>>>>Only some particularly ugly ones.
>>>I was thinking more like model airplanes.
>>Only some particularly ugly ones.
> Like, maybe, one stampeded on by cattle?
> Or maybe a plane ridden in by a model that slammed into a skyscraper,
Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
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Don Stockbauer <donstockba... @hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 8 2008 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
On Sep 8, 3:41 pm, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 8, 10:33 am, Sanforized <sanfori
... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>>On Sep 8, 8:44 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>>>Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>>>>On Sep 7, 10:55 am, Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> wrote:
> >>>>>>Tom Potter wrote:
> >>>>>>>"BURT" <macromi... @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:26992401-6fad-476b-b292-f5270b36501c@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com ...
> >>>>>>>>There is no need for God.
> >>>>>>>BURT's "Scientific theory of God."
> >>>>>>>God is a Turtle!
> >>>>>>Actually, thinking and talking about ass has been quite
> >>>>>Maybe he could start dating models?
> >>>>Only some particularly ugly ones.
> >>>I was thinking more like model airplanes.
> >>Only some particularly ugly ones.
> > Like, maybe, one stampeded on by cattle?
> > Or maybe a plane ridden in by a model that slammed into a skyscraper,
> Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
Especially if the beholder has one of those strange parasites that
swims around in the vitreous humor.
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Prai Jei <pvstowns... @zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:31:43 +0100
Local: Sat, Sep 20 2008 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Sanforized set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:
[snip the random outpourings]
The appearance of this thread on the browser suggests turtles all the way
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Sanforized <sanfori... @naol.con> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:30:06 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 20 2008 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Prai Jei wrote:
> Sanforized set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
> [snip the random outpourings]
> The appearance of this thread on the browser suggests turtles all the way
What I said was, "ugly is in the eye of the beholder."
Thanks for backing me up.
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Uncle Al <Uncle... @hate.spam.net> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:36:19 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 20 2008 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: Its turtles all the way up
Prai Jei wrote:
> Sanforized set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> [snip the random outpourings]
> The appearance of this thread on the browser suggests turtles all the way
Tortoises, you idiot. Turtles would be silly.
Hey stooopid - when Atlas has the world on his shoulders... upon what
-- http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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