Opposing Forces
jdawe
Society or yourself will not progress in your understanding of the
universe if you do not understand opposing forces.
Everything in this universe has an equal and opposite 'way' of
operating.
I see this mistake so many times it just makes me want to scream. I
turned the television on today and I see 'left' wing supporters
tearing their hair out saying the 'right' wingers are insane and need
to be stopped at all costs. I switch channels and I see 'right' wing
supporters tearing their hair out saying the 'left' wing are wackos
with their global warming theories and need to be eradicated .
Both forces, in this case left\right political views, are required
equally for the other to operate.
The greater you try to eradicate the opposing force and impose an
absolute 'one' way the greater the damage you will do to yourself or
society in general.
On the subject of society or yourself. They themselves are opposing
forces.
You must think about society as much as you think about yourself.
You must think about yourself as much as you think about society.
This brings me to the subject of capitalism vs communism.
Capitalism will never eradicate communism.
Communism will never eradicate capitalism.
They are opposing forces both are required equally for the other to
operate. Again, try to eradicate one side of this two sided universe
will bring you or society great harm.
If you want to see more in your lifetime than NASA crashing things
into the moon or seeing someone setting foot on the moon again that
was done 50 years ago. If you would prefer to see whether energy
\matter is 'alive' in other parts of the universe then you must
understand the dual 'way' of the universe.
You must understand everything uses opposing forces to operate. I
cannot stress this enough. You or society will not progress if you
refuse to acknowledge 'In Motion' has an opposing state. You might
progress and keep your reputation intact but society will never
progress if you continue to try to eradicate one side of this 2 sided
universe.
Thank you,
-Josh.
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
level of the capitalism, with a strict difference, which be would as
follows...
However, as the first communism tends to the absolute power, means, that
wants all the economical side to the population which it should make the
state, wonderful illusion...
Therefore, and the latter, means the capitalism, is a simply a just free
market to all as to any population which it adopts the capitalism, as an
economy of a market, otherwise, the capitalism, is an economy of a market,
out of any closed control, to anything as any population...
However, this is the absolute reason, that communism, along the absolute
need of a control, has had made its children, which are the socialism, the
social-democrat, the social-chretian, or simply the democrat, as all of them
makes the children as a human beigs to be their hostages...
Therefore, something which it makes it always to follow the absolute power,
which is the most horrible illusion as it is something, that it does destroy
the state, no matter the ways and the manners, which makes them to hide it,
it would always be seen along the populations...
However, as along that matter, as they do usually turn it to a war,
basically to cover the theory of all the mentioned above out of the economy
of a market...
However, they do make that it is the capitalism, as in reality is the
economical theory of the socialisme as a communism, which is its name also
as the other names, the socialism, the social-democrat, the social-chretian,
or simply the democrat...
For the time being, which it has had ever worked, whether, it does move
somhow, pnly along the police and the army...
Therefore, as it makes them to have something to do, out of any reason, and
a just to terrorize the population, and which is also absolutely wrong, for
any population, and this what is all about, along that matter, a definitely
as a matter a fact...
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
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You are talking alone, Josh.
Philosophy, though a useful exercise for the human intellect, does not
help
you too much in understanding physics.
I do not say it is useless, especially the dialectical materialism
from
which you are trying to quote.
First lesson from there: Watch what you *are* saying compared to what
you *think*
you are saying! Then you will make more sense than you do now!
Most physics students do understand opposing forces, so you are
addressing to the bare minority
of people here.
Regards, LL
Uncle Al
>
> Hi all,
>
> Society or yourself will not progress in your understanding of the
> universe if you do not understand opposing forces.
What is the opposing force of a photon propagating in vacuum? A
cosmic ray, an asteroid in interstellar space? What are the opposing
forces of linearly versus circularly polarized light? What is the
opposing force of electron capture radioactive decay of a fully
ionized atomic nucleus?
> Everything in this universe has an equal and opposite 'way' of
> operating.
Scandium-45 is 100% isotopic abundance, with a nuclear spin of 7/2-.
It has 8 "ways" of operating. If you want 7/2+, lanthanum-139 with
99.9112% natual abundance. Of course, one could have a brain (trust
me on this) and go with La-138, the other 0.0888 atom-%, with nuclear
spin 5+ and 11 "ways" of operating. Hafnium-178(m2) has nuclear spin
16+ and 33 "ways."
Helium-4 or carbon-12, zero nuclear spin, have one way.
idiot
> I see this mistake so many times it just makes me want to scream. I
> turned the television on today and I see 'left' wing supporters
> tearing their hair out saying the 'right' wingers are insane and need
> to be stopped at all costs. I switch channels and I see 'right' wing
> supporters tearing their hair out saying the 'left' wing are wackos
> with their global warming theories and need to be eradicated .
>
> Both forces, in this case left\right political views, are required
> equally for the other to operate.
Hey fucking stooopid - independent voters, anarchists, Greens,
Libertarians... the stupid, the pathetic, and The Officially Sad whose
votes are for sale for a drink or a dollar or a forgery.
> The greater you try to eradicate the opposing force and impose an
> absolute 'one' way the greater the damage you will do to yourself or
> society in general.
Tell it to a shaped charge warhead met by reactive armor.
> On the subject of society or yourself. They themselves are opposing
> forces.
>
> You must think about society as much as you think about yourself.
[snip rest of crap]
Bullshit. The only path to personal success and security is
orthogonal to society. Only a fool drinks downstream from the herd.
If you eructate pacifism you had better be armed.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
jdawe
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
If most physics student understand the opposing way of the universe
then they understand that:
In this physical universe naturally there can only be 2 opposing
physical things:
Energy
or
Matter
They then understand that naturally there can only be 2 opposing
states those 2 opposing physical things can be in:
In Motion
or
At Rest
And naturally only two opposing forces can result from which opposing
state those 2 opposing physical things are in:
energy\matter 'In Motion' = Physical Attraction force ( Gravity )
energy\matter 'At Rest' = Physical Repulsion force ( Inverse of
Gravity )
If the majority of physics students you know understand this then
please show me where they are because they certainly don't live in my
country. Every university I've shown this law to has slammed the door
or slammed the phone in my ear with the same recurring line:
"This violates empirically established physical laws concerning
gravity. There is no opposing state to moving. Everything is moving
and that's all there is to it".
And the majority of physics students don't reside on this forum either
as I receive the same recurring line here.
But then of course if there were indeed a majority of physics students
who understood the opposing way of the universe then they wouldn't be
physics students they would be 2 opposing states:
physics student
or
physics teacher
because they would know the opposing state of a student is a teacher.
And you can never reach maximum progression if you do not bring the 2
opposing forces into harmony:
Invert from a student into a teacher
or
Invert from a teacher into a student
On a equally regular basis throughout your journey of scientific
discovery.
> You are talking alone, Josh.
Again the mistake of ignoring the opposing force has been made:
You must learn to speak for everyone as much as you should learn to
speak for yourself.
You must learn to speak for yourself as much as you should learn to
speak for everyone.
-Josh.
jdawe
Thanks for your reply.
On Nov 10, 12:14 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> What is the opposing force of a photon propagating in vacuum?
photon = energy\matter
Energy\matter can be in only 2 opposing states:
In Motion
or
At Rest
In this case you say it's 'In Motion'.
Within 'In Motion' there are only 2 opposing ways energy\matter can
move:
Circular ( wave like )
or
Directional ( straight line )
In this case it's 'Circular'.
> cosmic ray,
As above.
> an asteroid in interstellar space?
As above.
> What are the opposing forces of linearly versus circularly polarized light?
You have answered your own question. When energy\matter are 'In
Motion' or 'At Rest' they do so in 2 opposing ways:
Circular ( wave like )
or
Directional ( straight line )
> What is the opposing force of electron capture radioactive decay of a fully
> ionized atomic nucleus?
> Scandium-45 is 100% isotopic abundance, with a nuclear spin of 7/2-.
> It has 8 "ways" of operating. If you want 7/2+, lanthanum-139 with
> 99.9112% natual abundance. Of course, one could have a brain (trust
> me on this) and go with La-138, the other 0.0888 atom-%, with nuclear
> spin 5+ and 11 "ways" of operating. Hafnium-178(m2) has nuclear spin
> 16+ and 33 "ways."
Atoms operate on the same principle as the rest of the universe.
The centre is 'At Rest' and it does so using 'Circular' or
'Directional' movement. In this case circular 'spin'
Anything orbiting the centre is 'In Motion' using circular 'orbit'
movement.
The 'At Rest' centre generates a physical repulsion field.
The orbiting 'In Motion' generates a physical attraction field.
The inverse of spinning 'circular' movement is linear 'directional'
movement.
> Hey fucking stooopid - independent voters, anarchists, Greens,
> Libertarians... the stupid, the pathetic, and The Officially Sad whose
> votes are for sale for a drink or a dollar or a forgery.
Whether one admits it or not they can have only 2 opposing political
views:
To the Left
or
To the Right
Do not confuse this with:
Individual
or
Society
Also do not confuse this with religion. One can have only 2 opposing
religious views:
Religion
or
Atheism
And yes:
Individual
or
Society
Will progress further if the left\right and religion\atheism and every
other opposing 'way' are brought together in as close harmony as
possible.
> Bullshit. The only path to personal success and security is
> orthogonal to society. Only a fool drinks downstream from the herd.
> If you eructate pacifism you had better be armed.
Again you answered your own question.
If you want to understand peace ( pacifism ) then you must understand
war.
If you want to understand war then you must understand peace.
-Josh.
tadchem
>
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Spoken like a true Taoist.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
tadchem
>
> Society or yourself will not progress in your understanding of the
> universe if you do not understand opposing forces.
>
> Everything in this universe has an equal and opposite 'way' of
> operating.
An oversimplified model of reality... All models are analogies, and
there are limits to their applicability.
Reality will do whatever reality will do, regardless of your wish to
impose any artificial constraint upon it.
There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
"Analogies are like ropes; they tie things together well but you won't
get very far if you try to push them." - Thaddeus Stout
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
jdawe
> There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
On Nov 12, 10:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> Others are not .. gravity,
Why can you not understand that:
When energy\matter is 'In Motion' it generates a physical attraction
field.
When energy\matter is 'At Rest' it generates a physical repulsion
field.
Why can you not understand this?
Honestly, I'm really getting fed up with repeating it over and over
again.
Erase the friggin term 'gravity' from your vocabulary and replace it
with:
Physical Attraction
or
Physical Repulsion.
> mass?
Energy
or
Matter
> temperature?
hot
or
cold
> entropy?
hot
or
cold
Stop staring point-blank at the problem. Trying to measure every
little thing. Just relax and take a step back.
Dont worry I did the same thing when I was first learning about
movement. I was trying to count every frigging different speed you
could go:
1km\h
2km\h
3km\h
4km\h
on and on and on....
Until I realised you were either:
Moving ( 'In Motion' )
or
Not Moving ( 'At Rest' )
-Josh.
jdawe
> "jdawe" <mrjd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:89e54274-5475-4d18...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 12, 7:32 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
>
> > On Nov 12, 10:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> >> Others are not .. gravity,
>
> > Why can you not understand that:
>
>
> [snip naive crap and nonsense]
By naive crap do you mean:
by explaining everything in 'simple' terms is wrong?
so, therefore:
by explaining everything in 'complex' terms is correct?
Well, let's take a closer look at these 2 opposing states:
Simple
or
Complex
We know a physics 'person' can be either a:
Student
or
Teacher
And that both these opposing states are equally required for one to
progress.
So we have a 'problem' we are are trying to understand. We begin in
the 'student' state because we find the problem in a 'complex' state
and we need to understand it.
Once we understand it and the problem inverts from a 'complex' state
into a 'simple' state we can then invert from a 'student' into a
'teacher' and teach the problem in 'simple' terms.
This is why if you are a 'student' finding a problem 'complex' then
you need to oppose that with a 'teacher' who finds the problem
'simple' otherwise you will not progress.
This is why I only explain things in 'simple' terms when I'm in the
'teaching' state.
-Josh.
jmfbahciv
> On Nov 12, 7:32 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
>
> On Nov 12, 10:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>> Others are not .. gravity,
>
> Why can you not understand that:
>
> When energy\matter is 'In Motion' it generates a physical attraction
> field.
>
> When energy\matter is 'At Rest' it generates a physical repulsion
> field.
>
> Why can you not understand this?
>
> Honestly, I'm really getting fed up with repeating it over and over
> again.
>
You should consider the possibility that you are wrong.
/BAH
jbriggs444
>
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Or the possibility that he is right.
Making a quantitative testable prediction would be a huge step
forward. If there are two 1kg spheres with a separation of 1 meter,
what repulsive force is predicted by the "opposite theory"? At what
velocity is this repulsive force cancelled out by the attaction
field? What velocity is required for the attraction field to match
the force predicted by Newtonian gravity? Is this repulsion/
attraction effect in addition to gravity or is it supposed to be an
explanation for gravity? If it is an explanation for gravity, how
does it modify the experimentally determined mass of the sun? (High
temperature objects are predicted to attract more strongly than low
temperature objects).
Contemplating the consequences if a theory is _right_ is one of the
best ways to determine that it is wrong.
jdawe
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
I've explained it all in a new thread called 'Understanding Gravity'.
-Josh.
jmfbahciv
> On Nov 12, 7:48 am, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
>> jdawe wrote:
>>> On Nov 12, 7:32 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
>>> On Nov 12, 10:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>>>> Others are not .. gravity,
>>> Why can you not understand that:
>>> When energy\matter is 'In Motion' it generates a physical attraction
>>> field.
>>> When energy\matter is 'At Rest' it generates a physical repulsion
>>> field.
>>> Why can you not understand this?
>>> Honestly, I'm really getting fed up with repeating it over and over
>>> again.
>> You should consider the possibility that you are wrong.
>>
>> /BAH- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Or the possibility that he is right.
Good point. That's why I'm the engineer and you're the scientist :-)).
>
> Making a quantitative testable prediction would be a huge step
> forward. If there are two 1kg spheres with a separation of 1 meter,
> what repulsive force is predicted by the "opposite theory"? At what
> velocity is this repulsive force cancelled out by the attaction
> field? What velocity is required for the attraction field to match
> the force predicted by Newtonian gravity? Is this repulsion/
> attraction effect in addition to gravity or is it supposed to be an
> explanation for gravity? If it is an explanation for gravity, how
> does it modify the experimentally determined mass of the sun? (High
> temperature objects are predicted to attract more strongly than low
> temperature objects).
>
> Contemplating the consequences if a theory is _right_ is one of the
> best ways to determine that it is wrong.
>
Will the OP do an experiment?
/BAH
jmfbahciv
what Mr. Briggs wrote; did you?
/BAH
alie...@gmail.com
> On Nov 12, 7:32 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > There is no "equal and opposite way" for gravity.
>
> On Nov 12, 10:08 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>
> > Others are not .. gravity,
>
> Why can you not understand that:
>
> When energy\matter is 'In Motion' it generates a physical attraction
> field.
>
> When energy\matter is 'At Rest' it generates a physical repulsion
> field.
Bullshit. If you were correct, the _static_ (that means "not in
motion" or "at rest") masses in a Eötvös balance would repel each
other. They do not, they attract each other, hence you are wrong.
> Why can you not understand this?
Because it is false.
> Honestly, I'm really getting fed up with repeating it over and over
> again.
Then stop.
Mark L. Fergerson
BURT
Electric repulsion resists falling in gravity at the Earth's surface.
These are the only opposing forces.
jdawe
in this universe.
> These are the only opposing forces.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Both energy\matter generate a repulsion field when they are 'At Rest'.
-Josh.
alie...@gmail.com
> Both energy\matter generate a repulsion field when they are 'At Rest'.
You are wrong.
Stand still (be "At Rest" with respect to the Earth). Does the Earth
repel you or attract you? It attracts you.
You are wrong.
Jump straight up. When you stop moving away from the Earth you are
"At Rest" wrt the Earth. Do you and the Earth then repel each other?
No, you fall back down because you and the Earth attract each other.
You are wrong.
Get over it.
Mark L. Fergerson
Sam Wormley
>
> Both energy\matter generate a repulsion field when they are 'At Rest'.
>
Rest with respect to what observer?
jdawe
This might make it easier to understand:
Within the earth the centre ( core ) is 'At Rest'.
It does so by:
Circular ( core spin )
or
Linear ( north and south pole )
The exterior of the earth is 'In Motion'.
It does so by:
Circular ( exterior orbiting around the core )
or
Linear ( The straight line running through the equator )
Therefore:
We have 'repulsion force' being emitted out of the core and up through
the north\south pole.
or
We have 'attraction force' being emitted around the exterior of the
earth.
Now, before you say:
"Hey, there is a difference between the north and south pole because
I've a north and south pole magnet."
Yes, because within:
Circular movement
or
Linear movement
There are 2 opposing ways you can go:
Forward ( go one way )
or
Reverse ( go the other way )
Example:
If I was looking down on the earth at the north pole I would see the
earth revolving around from left to right.
or
If I was looking up on the earth at the south pole I would see the
earth revolving from right to left.
This opposing ( forward or backward ) of ( circular or linear )
movement gives you:
Forward repulsion force
or
Backward repulsion force
AND
Forward attraction force
or
Backward attraction force
-------------------------------
Now, is there anything that anyone does not understand? :)
-Josh.
jdawe
*Forgot to mention:
'repulsion force' is emitted out of the core and up through
the north\south pole.
or
'attraction force' is emitted *out of the equator* and around the
exterior and of the
earth.
-josh.
BURT
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The future of science is Aether.
Mitch Raemsch
jdawe
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'Aether' is where you make your biggest mistake, Mitch.
Because you don't recognise:
Physical Attraction
or
Physical Repulsion
As equal opposing forces so you have to say the 'aether' is a physical
entity and it has 'flow' in it.
-Josh.