FTA Newsgroup ? ? ?

[Tha RagMan]

Is there a usnet newsgroup dedicated to FTA? This seems to be the hot
ticket these days for playing with sat tv but I see very little
reference to info exchange in the several tv/sat newsgroups or adh
that I watch. In fact lately I see nearly no exchanges or discussions
about anything related to the topic. What or where is the hot location
to get a tutorial or a newbie education on exactly how to join in on
the fun?

[rollee]

I agree that a FTA newsgroup would be great. I have tried to learn about
it, and have been confused about it. I seem to find conflicting
information. I tried simply doing a search on the internet for "FTA
Satellites" or just FTA, and I get a lot of information, but as I said, it
seems to conflict. For example, I have an old Dish 500 dish that was left
by a tenant. The cable still comes into the house from the dish. I have
asked here in this group, as to whether or not I could just get a FTA
receiver, plug it into the dish cable, and whether that would pick up any
FTA signals or not. Again, I got answers saying basically absolutely not,
and others said definitely yes. The same thing happens when I look at the
sites that come up in the search. It sure seems strange...
--Jim

[TrOll]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:07:51 -0800, rollee <rol...@all2easy.net>
wrote:

Well, to answer your question. If you just buy an fta receiver and
connect it to that coax you won't see anything! But there is a signal
there. In order to receive that signal you have to have a modified
bin file to make that fta receiver descramble the signal. Then you
can see what that signal is.

www.hashhu.com
www.future-fta.info/forums but this site has been affected by the
earth quake off of Tiawan. It is up and down right now.
http://www.al7bar.tk/Forums/

If you go to these sites you will find a lot of info already posted
with stickys in each catagory that will answer most all your
questions. Hashhu is probably the best right now. Just make sure you
do a bunch of reading before you ask a bunch of dumb ass questions!
They don't take kindly to ppl asking shit over and over again when the
answer has already been posted.

[rollee]

Thanks TrOll for your answer. However, it does seem to once again confuse me.
If the signals are FTA [Free Through Air], then why is a Descrambler file
needed? I think you see why I am confused!

TrOll wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:07:51 -0800, rollee <rol...@all2easy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I agree that a FTA newsgroup would be great. I have tried to learn about
> >it, and have been confused about it. I seem to find conflicting
> >information. I tried simply doing a search on the internet for "FTA
> >Satellites" or just FTA, and I get a lot of information, but as I said, it
> >seems to conflict. For example, I have an old Dish 500 dish that was left
> >by a tenant. The cable still comes into the house from the dish. I have
> >asked here in this group, as to whether or not I could just get a FTA
> >receiver, plug it into the dish cable, and whether that would pick up any
> >FTA signals or not. Again, I got answers saying basically absolutely not,
> >and others said definitely yes. The same thing happens when I look at the
> >sites that come up in the search. It sure seems strange...
> >--Jim

[Charlie]

There is truly F(ree)TA, and then there is 'pirated' Dish Network. These
posts have been describing how to pirate (technically, 'steal' Dish.

True FTA can be either on the high frequency small dishes, or on the old
large C-band dishes. The truly free stuff is mostly on different
satellites from the Dish sats & would require re-aiming the dish.

For available true FTA programming, try
http://www.lyngsat.com/

When you get one up & working, let me know how you like it, because I've
already told you more than I know. :-)

[MJ Ray]

Charlie <mcso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is truly F(ree)TA, and then there is 'pirated' Dish Network. These
> posts have been describing how to pirate (technically, 'steal' Dish.

It is not pirate - no ships are involved.

It is not stealing - the original possessors still possess it.
However, it is illegal in most places.

Even so, please oppose Big Media's attempts to compare it to bloodthirsty
ship-stealing or other types of stealing.

[...]

> For available true FTA programming, try
> http://www.lyngsat.com/

Excellent suggestion!
--
MJR/slef

[TrOll]

If you will read his question, he is asking about using a Dish 500
dish (which will have a Dish Pro LNBF) with an FTA receiver! I simply
explained how to do that.

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:28:14 -0600, Charlie <mcso...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[wyrtwist]

There are a few unscrambled TV and radio channels on DN & BEV .

Wyr

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[D. Stussy]

"Tha RagMan" <wmercie...@shelby.net> wrote in message
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Do you mean that "alt.video.satellite.mpeg-dvb" doesn't exist anymore?

[Jack]

"rollee" <rol...@all2easy.net> wrote in message
news:4592B677...@all2easy.net...

>I agree that a FTA newsgroup would be great. I have tried to learn about
> it, and have been confused about it. I seem to find conflicting
> information. I tried simply doing a search on the internet for "FTA
> Satellites" or just FTA, and I get a lot of information, but as I said, it
> seems to conflict. For example, I have an old Dish 500 dish that was left
> by a tenant. The cable still comes into the house from the dish. I have
> asked here in this group, as to whether or not I could just get a FTA
> receiver, plug it into the dish cable, and whether that would pick up any
> FTA signals or not. Again, I got answers saying basically absolutely not,
> and others said definitely yes. The same thing happens when I look at the
> sites that come up in the search. It sure seems strange...
> --Jim
>

The best of the bunch is totalfta.com

[alt]

Here's the real deal with FTA.

Yes, you can receive programming using the Dish 500 dish. If it's pointed
at 119W you can receive a grand total of two useful channels: NASA TV and
Angel One. If it's pointed to 110W, there are no useful channels. The
rest are preview channels or promo channels.

What people are really talking about when they say you can use this dish
with an FTA receiver is about illegally decrypting the for-pay
programming. The channels I listed above are unencrypted. If you have no
qualms about signal theft... well, I'm not going there.

If you really want to get into true Ku-band FTA, you'll need at least a
30" dish (I use a 36") and I recommend also getting an H2H (Horizon to
Horizon) motor so you can repoint the dish to multiple satellites simply
by changing the channel on the receiver. I also recommend an Invacom Quad
LNBF which will do both circular and linear reception (circular will get
you the 3 or 4 channels that are open on Dish Network and linear is the
normal FTA stuff).

A good resource is www.lyngsat.com. I also like www.ftalist.com. If you
only speak english, then really the only satellites you'll want are
Galaxy 10R, Galaxy 25, AMC 4 and Galaxy 27. If you have circular
capability, Echostar 5 and Echostar 7 will add another 3 or 4 channels.

If you really want to add to the FTA channel count, get a used 10' C-band
dish and you can add another 30+ english channels from all over North
America. This is a more difficult to set up, but well worth it. I can't
wait to get mine up. :-)

I hope this helps clear things up and answer some questions for you.