GPS V soft reset question
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(after a long period of time not being used ...) failed.
On start-up he gets the splash screen and then the Satellite page
opens and then he gets a horizontal line across the screen.
He's replaced the batteries and is running it off the external power
cord.
He has a few hundred way-points that he would like to save, (he hasn't
backed this up to his new PC after his old one crashed) so he's
looking for some way to do a soft reset and not lose this data.
I've googled it and read the Garmin FAQ and all I can see is a hard
reset including loss of data.
any advice?
Matt
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Jack Erbes
> I have a brother with a GPS V (he doesn't read this NG) which recently
> (after a long period of time not being used ...) failed.
>
> On start-up he gets the splash screen and then the Satellite page
> opens and then he gets a horizontal line across the screen.
>
> He's replaced the batteries and is running it off the external power
> cord.
>
> He has a few hundred way-points that he would like to save, (he hasn't
> backed this up to his new PC after his old one crashed) so he's
> looking for some way to do a soft reset and not lose this data.
>
> I've googled it and read the Garmin FAQ and all I can see is a hard
> reset including loss of data.
>
> any advice?
I would do any kind of reset yet, hard or soft.
I don't know the GPS V but it sounds like he might just have a video
failure. I sort of wonder if the GPS might not be getting a fix in the
background and working and there is just no way to see that.
You might try powering it up, connecting to a PC (in a place with a sky
view), and then trying to connect to it with MapSource after the amount
of time normally needed to get a fix.
If no GPS was found, that would tell you more about the problem and
maybe tell you if the GPS was working or not. It may tell you it was
just the video that was not working.
In any case, if he did get MapSource to see it, he should do an
immediate download of course. All that data is in main memory on that
model so he cannot get it from anywhere else.
Jack
Don Girard
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Command set
1. Hold the Enter\Mark button and turn on = the Test screens that
can be paged thru
2. Hold the Menu button and turn on = "Reset User Data" option.
There is a Yes\no option.
3. Hold the OUT button and the QUIT button and turn on = Global
reset, with NO WARNING !!!! . This resets all of the GPS V info
except the maps loaded in memory. This will cause you to have to re-
initialize the unit and reset all of your options.
4. Occasionally the my GPS V will complain that it has lost
satellitecoverage
or that coverage is reduced. The display freezes with the word "drawing"
shown. When I switch to the GPS info display, there are many (5-9)
satellites shown as locked on. I have to re-boot to clear this.
With your GPS turned off please press and hold the zoom out button and the
power button at the same time. Release the buttons and the unit will be on.
At this point let the unit set outside clear view of the sky for about 15
minutes. If you continue to have problems please let me know and I can set
up a repair for your unit.
Jack Erbes
<snip> I would do any kind of reset yet, hard or soft.
>
That should read "I would *not* do any kind of reset yet, hard or soft"
Sheesh, what a dumb mistake
Jack
Jack Erbes
>
The reason for not doing a reset? I would not do a reset of any kind
until after I had explored the possibility that the data may still be on
the receiver and that I may be able to recover it.
If it looked like the data recovery was hopeless, and I thought a sort
or hard reset might get the GPS working again, I would first try a soft
reset and the final thing would be to try a hard reset.
Jack
Gene E. Bloch
> Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Interesting! even I have never needed any hard/soft reset on any of the
> GPS, and just about 99.99% of all hardwares I have ever owned (except
> electrical overloaded). But I believe reset won't destroy any data but
> return to FACTORY DEFAULT setting which may lose some user configuration.
> And RESET is usually when user have no choice between dead hardware or
> trying the luck, or hoping the RESET will give the life back to the dead
> hardware. But I may be wrong as I have almost never done any reset on about
> all the hardware I have ever owned *except* the Fruit Processor which gets
> overloaded if I have it running for more than 1-2 mins.
For anyone reading this who doesn't know it: in many kinds of hardware,
a hard reset loses all user data.
That is why Jack Erbes recommends against a hard reset until all other
avenues have been proven to fail.
In addition, I personally recommend against a soft reset, but my reason
there is just plain superstition.
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Jack Erbes
> GPS, and just about 99.99% of all hardwares I have ever owned (except
> electrical overloaded). But I believe reset won't destroy any data but
> return to FACTORY DEFAULT setting which may lose some user configuration.
It used to be a fairly common, or not uncommon, thing to have to do with
GPS receivers. And there were also numerous "secret" keystrokes that
gave access to various levels of diagnostic and trouble shooting
procedures. But the ones that were like that always had hard and soft
resets with one of the distinctions being that any user data was lost in
a hard reset.
Here as an example is a document with the secret keystrokes for the
older Magellan handhelds:
http://gpsinformation.net/MeridianFAQv2_0.pdf
and another for Garmins:
http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/secret.htm
Jack
Retired VIP
> Interesting! even I have never needed any hard/soft reset on any of the
>GPS, and just about 99.99% of all hardwares I have ever owned (except
>electrical overloaded). But I believe reset won't destroy any data but
>return to FACTORY DEFAULT setting which may lose some user configuration.
>
> And RESET is usually when user have no choice between dead hardware or
>trying the luck, or hoping the RESET will give the life back to the dead
>hardware. But I may be wrong as I have almost never done any reset on about
>all the hardware I have ever owned *except* the Fruit Processor which gets
>overloaded if I have it running for more than 1-2 mins.
How about that. A person who admits to never doing a reset telling
others what they do.
The two types of reset are easy to understand. A soft reset will just
free up stack space and reset a few pointers and then start the OS
from a cold start. You loose all of the work you were doing at the
time but nothing saved in memory.
A hard reset completely restores the unit to it's factory default
settings. You lose all user data that you have entered, POI, Routes,
etc. The unit is just as it was out of the box.
Nether type of reset will allow you to recover data that you had
generated or modified but hadn't saved yet.
The distention between hard and soft resets is beginning to blur a bit
with the proliferation of flash memory. The above is true with RAM
where the data is lost if you lose power but flash memory will retain
data without power being applied. The difference between a hard and
soft reset in a unit with flash memory will be in how the OS resets
the pointers.
Jack
jdd...@gmail.com
I had this same problem last week. I got it after updating maps and
downloading data. Took the GPS back to the car, turned it on, got
through the splash and satellite screens and then the line across the
screen. Did this several times with no luck.
Figured it was toast but left it in the car. a bit later I tried it
again while the vehicle was moving and it came back and has worked
fine since. Don't know if that will help here but try turning it on
in a vehicle that is moving. Worked for me.
-terry
kr...@qsl.net
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This happened to me a week ago or more. It was not the GPSV it was the
WAAS satellites. I did the reset where you hold in the Out key when
you turn it on. One GPSV worked fine after that but the other one
still displayed the blank screen once it acquired one of the WAAS
satellites. Several resets fixed it and both are now happy with the
WAAS signals. Apparently some change was made to the WAAS satellites
messages which blanked out the GPSV. Hope this helps.
jjt
TL
as today. Without a reset, it seems to work fine now.
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thanks for the info - I'm going to give him a call this weekend and
see if he's tried any of these tips and if it worked for him.
Matt
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1hogrider
I have been following this thread with interest because I own a GPS V.
I don't use it that much since I have a Quest II mounted in the car.
I got the GPS V out today and got the single horizontal line across the
screen as others have described, even after resets and attempts at
letting the unit update its almanac for a period of time.
As a followup to this message thread, I called Garmin Support today.
The rep was not that familiar with the GPS V since it is a discontinued
model.
He did check with another rep and the answer I eventually got was
apparently DoD made some changes on some of the satellites. The GPS V
software is looking for the satellites but because the software is
older, it cannot locate them. The rep said, eventually, they may come
out with a software patch to fix the problem. For now, they are
concentrating on the current production models and the software patch
may eventually trickle down to the discontinued models.
In the mean time, he suggested I TURN OFF the WAAS feature on this unit.
While this may mean a slight decrease in accuracy, the unit should
work as it should.