Google Earth

[Larry]

How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?

Thanks in advance.

[Marcel Aerts]

On 7 apr, 23:58, Larry <La...@fishing.net> wrote:
> How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Save The pushpin from places en convert this with WinGDB3.

[Larry]

I'll take a look at it.
Thanks

[Harry Putnam]

Larry <La...@fishing.net> writes:

> How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Highlight the pushpin in the `myplaces' column, right click and `save as'
a `kml' file. GE might default to kmz so make sure you set kml in the
bottom drop down of the dialog.

Download this free converter:

http://www.teambikeolympo.it/TCXConverter/TeamBikeOlympo_-_TCX_Converter/TCX_Converter_ENG.html

(follow the download link there)

That converter can convert the *.kml to a *.gpx file which is readable
by most gps units.

So by usb cable or whatever way you have of accessing the gps, load
that *.gpx file onto it.

[Klatch]

On 4/7/2012 5:58 PM, Larry wrote:
> How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Also take a look at GPSBabel. Converst almost everthing to everything!
(including .kml to .gpx)
http://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html

[Larry]

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:27:12 -0400, Harry Putnam <rea...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

I thought I read here a long time ago that you could just save it
directly to a GPS.

All this roud about stuff is not worth while.

Thanks anyway

[Peter H. Coffin]

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:13:53 -0400, Larry wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:27:12 -0400, Harry Putnam <rea...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Larry <La...@fishing.net> writes:
>>
>>> How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>

[....]

>>So by usb cable or whatever way you have of accessing the gps, load
>>that *.gpx file onto it.
>
> I thought I read here a long time ago that you could just save it
> directly to a GPS.
>
> All this roud about stuff is not worth while.
>
> Thanks anyway

A long time ago, you could. Back when MSN Direct still existed and the
traffic info came through it. And you were using MS Live map tools not
Google Earth. A little associating your GPS with your Live account, push
a "Send to GPS button" and the route or waypoint would just show up on
the GPS out in the driveway in a few minutes.

But MS shut down the whole service in January.

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The command will be "And try to take him alive if it is reasonably
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[DaveG]

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:03:06 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:13:53 -0400, Larry wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:27:12 -0400, Harry Putnam <rea...@newsguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Larry <La...@fishing.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> How do I send a google earth pushpin mark location to a GPS?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
> [....]
>>>So by usb cable or whatever way you have of accessing the gps, load
>>>that *.gpx file onto it.
>>
>> I thought I read here a long time ago that you could just save it
>> directly to a GPS.
>>
>> All this roud about stuff is not worth while.
>>
>> Thanks anyway
>
> A long time ago, you could. Back when MSN Direct still existed and the
> traffic info came through it. And you were using MS Live map tools not
> Google Earth. A little associating your GPS with your Live account, push
> a "Send to GPS button" and the route or waypoint would just show up on
> the GPS out in the driveway in a few minutes.
>
> But MS shut down the whole service in January.

Google Maps has an API. It should be relatively simple for someone who
knows what they are doing programming wise to be able to create something
if it doesn't already exist.

My own programming skills are very rusty these days. Not sure if even an
archaeologist could identify them now :-)

Before hitting "send" I just did a quick Google on the terms:

google maps garmin

The very first hit is:

Garmin | Send to GPS
my.garmin.com/locate/google-sendtoGPSHelp.htm
The Send to GPS service allows you to search for any street address and
transfer it from the Google Maps website to your Garmin device via its
USB or Wireless ...

Lots of other interesting links there to re this subject.

--
DaveG
Lifetime member of the National Trust
6 years and counting.

[Klatch]

The subject was Google Earth.

[DaveG]

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:59:53 -0400, Klatch wrote:

> The subject was Google Earth.

Oh! So it is. Oops :-)

[Larry]

I appreciate the fact that you have posted this information but it
does not help with what I am trying to do. I find a position in G/E
and I want to send that to the GPS like a waypoint so when the gps is
on my 4 wheeler I can get to the place I saw in the sat photo.

I can do it now by using the lat/lon information and converting it.
But this is time consuming when you want to move a lot of waypoints
compared to just clicking a mouse button to save it to the GSP.

[DaveG]

Ys, as someone else pointed out, it's GE, GM you are interested in.

Not sure if this is any good to you. Flash is "playing up" here ATM so i
can't view it, only download as mp4 then view, so I can't see the
clickable tags and related info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=K9SbDRlkwEc

It's from 2008 so may no longer be applicable. Or it might be better now.

Just out of curiosity, why specifically GE and not GM? Are you using GE
in some way which GM can't work?

[do...@76.usenet.us.com]

Larry <La...@fishing.net> wrote:
> I appreciate the fact that you have posted this information but it
> does not help with what I am trying to do. I find a position in G/E
> and I want to send that to the GPS like a waypoint so when the gps is
> on my 4 wheeler I can get to the place I saw in the sat photo.

It has been a while since I did this, but I have used gpsbabel, from
gpsbabel.org to move data in an out of Google Earth.

You can save from GE, as a kml file, and gpsbabel can load that to the gps.

It's part of the Google Earth Windows installation.
It will copy to and from a USB Garmin.

c:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth\client\gpsbabel.exe
gpsbabel -t -r -w -i garmin -f usb: -o gpx -F myfile.gpx
tracks, routes, waypoints, from a Garmin usb to a gpx file.

Some similar commmand line would go from kml to the USB Garmin.
There's a GUI wrapper, too.


--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

[Larry]

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:29:47 GMT, DaveG <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>Ys, as someone else pointed out, it's GE, GM you are interested in.
>
>Not sure if this is any good to you. Flash is "playing up" here ATM so i
>can't view it, only download as mp4 then view, so I can't see the
>clickable tags and related info.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=K9SbDRlkwEc
>
>It's from 2008 so may no longer be applicable. Or it might be better now.
>
>Just out of curiosity, why specifically GE and not GM? Are you using GE
>in some way which GM can't work?

I am not familiar with G/M at all. But I assume it is for places
where there are roads and addresses, etc.

I am using G/E to view some areas of my home state, Florida that have
no roads but are navigable with a 4 wheeler. I can find places in
G/E such as Springs and areas of a river that look good for fishing
that I would like to go to in person.

As mentioned I have done this by finding a placemark in G/E then
converting the Lat/Lon and pasting that into a Garmin Mapsource
waypoint, then downloading to a GPS. It would just be a lot easier
and faster to be able to save the points if the GPS is connected to
G/E.

I have even tried asking this question in a G/E "How do I" forum. So
far not one reply. Maybe G/E does not do this but I thought I once
saw on here that it was done very easily.

[Larry]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:31:03 +0000 (UTC), do...@76.usenet.us.com wrote:

>It has been a while since I did this, but I have used gpsbabel, from
>gpsbabel.org to move data in an out of Google Earth.

I had used gpsbabel a long time ago too, that is just as much hassle
as the way I do it now. That's why I am trying to find a way to send
it directly to the GPS from G/E. I wonder who I should suggest this
to in order for G/E to implement it if it is not already possible? It
sure would be a vey useful function.

[Mike Coon]

Larry wrote:
> I am not familiar with G/M at all. But I assume it is for places
> where there are roads and addresses, etc.

I think that is true in-as-much-as so far as I know you cannot turn off the
satellite images in GE to leave just the road map (which you can do in GM).
The main distinction I know is that (on desktops at least) GM runs in a
browser with nothing to install whereas GE is a chunk of code with updates
etc. (Whereas on my Windows Mobile PDA the installed program is confusingly
called GM.)

Mike.
--
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and substitute "plus" for +.

[DaveG]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:37:15 -0400, Larry wrote:

> I am not familiar with G/M at all. But I assume it is for places where
> there are roads and addresses, etc.

It's not. It works just as well for specific points as it does for
addresses, using either a map view or satellite/aerial imagery as per
Google Earth.

> I am using G/E to view some areas of my home state, Florida that have no
> roads but are navigable with a 4 wheeler. I can find places in G/E
> such as Springs and areas of a river that look good for fishing that I
> would like to go to in person.

You can do that with Google Maps too. It may or may not be as quick.
I'm currently running on a very old/slow Linux laptop so can't really
compare.

> As mentioned I have done this by finding a placemark in G/E then
> converting the Lat/Lon and pasting that into a Garmin Mapsource
> waypoint, then downloading to a GPS. It would just be a lot easier and
> faster to be able to save the points if the GPS is connected to G/E.

It appears that one can do exactly this on Google Maps.

Get and install The Garmin Communicator plugin (link below)

Go to Google search page, click Maps off to menu bar. Drag around to get
where you want to go, double left click to zoom in, right for zoom out.
Switch between map or photo view as appropriate. When you find a point
you want to "locate", right click and select centre map here.

Now do what Garmin say here:
http://my.garmin.com/locate/google-sendtoGPSHelp.htm

This will let you store single points. I have no idea if you can create
tracks from this, or even if that's what you want to do but if it is, you
can create multiple points. I assume if you are an experienced off-roader
in your home territory then you don't need fully detailed tracking on
your GPS to get you there.

Ok, so it's not a solution for GE, but from the info you've given, it
does seem to be a viable solution if you can change to using GM instead
of or as well as GE.

[DaveG]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:36:53 +0000, DaveG wrote:

> Ok, so it's not a solution for GE, but from the info you've given, it
> does seem to be a viable solution if you can change to using GM instead
> of or as well as GE.

Oh, hang on. Further reading at
http://gps.about.com/od/gpsmapscharts/ht/google_garmin.htm
seems to indicate that this works via some sort of Garmin web portal and
may only work with limited addresses which are "GPS enabled"

If so, it's not only pretty pointless, but an overly complicated and
round about "solution" to a problem which doesn't really exist. The
Google Maps "Send" function includes the Lat/Long for the selected point
so would actually (and may in fact be) much simpler. Only someone with
the time and inclination to test it out will know for sure. :-)

[Larry]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:36:53 GMT, DaveG <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>It appears that one can do exactly this on Google Maps.
>
>Get and install The Garmin Communicator plugin (link below)
>
>Go to Google search page, click Maps off to menu bar. Drag around to get
>where you want to go, double left click to zoom in, right for zoom out.
>Switch between map or photo view as appropriate. When you find a point
>you want to "locate", right click and select centre map here.
>
>Now do what Garmin say here:
>http://my.garmin.com/locate/google-sendtoGPSHelp.htm
>
>This will let you store single points. I have no idea if you can create
>tracks from this, or even if that's what you want to do but if it is, you
>can create multiple points. I assume if you are an experienced off-roader
>in your home territory then you don't need fully detailed tracking on
>your GPS to get you there.
>
>Ok, so it's not a solution for GE, but from the info you've given, it
>does seem to be a viable solution if you can change to using GM instead
>of or as well as GE.
>
>--
>DaveG
>Lifetime member of the National Trust
>6 years and counting.

It took a while because Garmin's instructions left out a little bit of
information. Also I found that it works just fine if you use just
G/M. But not if you open G/E find your point then tell G/E to view in
G/M.

If I try the second way it tells me that my browser is not supported
by Communicator. Very weird.

This is still as time consuming as using G/E and the lat/lon
conversion.

Google Earth needs to directly access a GPS if it is attached to the
computer.

I hope they read here.

[DaveG]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:53:11 -0400, Larry wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:36:53 GMT, DaveG <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>It appears that one can do exactly this on Google Maps.
>>
>>Get and install The Garmin Communicator plugin (link below)
>>
>>Go to Google search page, click Maps off to menu bar. Drag around to
>>get where you want to go, double left click to zoom in, right for zoom
>>out. Switch between map or photo view as appropriate. When you find a
>>point you want to "locate", right click and select centre map here.
>>
>>Now do what Garmin say here:
>>http://my.garmin.com/locate/google-sendtoGPSHelp.htm
>>
>>This will let you store single points. I have no idea if you can create
>>tracks from this, or even if that's what you want to do but if it is,
>>you can create multiple points. I assume if you are an experienced
>>off-roader in your home territory then you don't need fully detailed
>>tracking on your GPS to get you there.
>>
>>Ok, so it's not a solution for GE, but from the info you've given, it
>>does seem to be a viable solution if you can change to using GM instead
>>of or as well as GE.
>>

> It took a while because Garmin's instructions left out a little bit of
> information. Also I found that it works just fine if you use just G/M.
> But not if you open G/E find your point then tell G/E to view in G/M.
>
> If I try the second way it tells me that my browser is not supported by
> Communicator. Very weird.
>
> This is still as time consuming as using G/E and the lat/lon conversion.
>
> Google Earth needs to directly access a GPS if it is attached to the
> computer.
>
> I hope they read here.

I take it from the above that can't use GM in a way that works for you so
you still need to use GE? If so, that's a shame. I thought we might be
on to something thing there.

Maybe it's something worth suggesting to the the authors of some of the
3rd party Garmin apps or those authors writing POI converters. Using the
Google API it should be fairly simple to write something to extract the
Lat/Lon from a right click and save to a GPX file appending points as you
go. Worst case is you the have to open mapsource or Garmin s/w to upload
the GPX file. Or even just overwrite/append to the Favourites file. I
could probably do the latter as a linux app, but not sure about grabbing
from the Google API.

I'll add it onto my "things to look at" for when I've finished the attic
conversion.

[Larry]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:26:43 GMT, DaveG <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>I take it from the above that can't use GM in a way that works for you so
>you still need to use GE? If so, that's a shame. I thought we might be
>on to something thing there.
>
>Maybe it's something worth suggesting to the the authors of some of the
>3rd party Garmin apps or those authors writing POI converters. Using the
>Google API it should be fairly simple to write something to extract the
>Lat/Lon from a right click and save to a GPX file appending points as you
>go. Worst case is you the have to open mapsource or Garmin s/w to upload
>the GPX file. Or even just overwrite/append to the Favourites file. I
>could probably do the latter as a linux app, but not sure about grabbing
>from the Google API.
>
>I'll add it onto my "things to look at" for when I've finished the attic
>conversion.

Dave, I am not a programmer and don't know any programmers. I have a
little understanding about what you were saying but not much. It
would be great if G/E could open Mapsource to the spot it is looking
at like Mapsource can view in G/E. That would solve my problem
perfectly.

I could then find my waypoint, tell it to view in Mapsource and save
the waypoint.

Reading what you posted brings a question to mind. Would you know if
I could use G/E and make a series of pushpins that are the waypoints I
want,then save the file as .kmz, and then in some way convert that to
.gpx?

[DaveG]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:56:31 -0400, Larry wrote:

> Reading what you posted brings a question to mind. Would you know if I
> could use G/E and make a series of pushpins that are the waypoints I
> want,then save the file as .kmz, and then in some way convert that to
> .gpx?

I've never tried that. Google Maps only saves one at a time. It would
make sense to be able to save multiple points. Possibly you can save
many points into a My Places folder than Save As that folder.

Googling around indicates that a .kml/.kmz file can contain multiple
points. Assuming that GE will save in that format I'd imagine that a POI
converter program would be able to convert those points either into a
series of locations or maybe a track.

Unfortunately, as part of my attic conversion (one of two) and other
changes to the house, all my PCs are barely accessible in one of the
attics. The laptop isn't capable of running GE and my remote access to
the decent kit up there also won't run GE. Apparently it requires a
local GFX card with the power GE needs and this thing just ain't got the
oomph :-(

[Sunshine]

I wish he'd come right out and tell us why GM isn't a viable solution,
especially in light of his comment above that "it works just fine if
you use just G/M". As it stands now, we have to make the assumption
that GM doesn't work, or that it doesn't work in conjunction with GE,
or a half dozen other variations.

[Larry]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:02:57 GMT, DaveG <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:

>Googling around indicates that a .kml/.kmz file can contain multiple
>points. Assuming that GE will save in that format I'd imagine that a POI
>converter program would be able to convert those points either into a
>series of locations or maybe a track.
>
>Unfortunately, as part of my attic conversion (one of two) and other
>changes to the house, all my PCs are barely accessible in one of the
>attics. The laptop isn't capable of running GE and my remote access to
>the decent kit up there also won't run GE. Apparently it requires a
>local GFX card with the power GE needs and this thing just ain't got the
>oomph :-(

I have been using GPSBabel and trying but it seems to only do one
point at a time. So making the point in G/E then saving, then load
into GPSBabel, then save, then into Mapsource and finally save to the
GPS is way too long.
But thanks for trying to help.

[Larry]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:08:12 -0500, Sunshine <suns...@none.invalid>
wrote:

>I wish he'd come right out and tell us why GM isn't a viable solution,
>especially in light of his comment above that "it works just fine if
>you use just G/M". As it stands now, we have to make the assumption
>that GM doesn't work, or that it doesn't work in conjunction with GE,
>or a half dozen other variations.

After some playing around with GM I found out that if I start GE first
and then start the GPS in GE then use GM it will send one placemark to
my GPS at a time. 8 steps for each place mark. I was trying to
find a way that was a bit less time consuming.

[Sunshine]

What about ignoring GE completely, and just trying GM by itself? It
seems like all of your experimentation has included GE so far.

[Larry]

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:09:56 -0500, Sunshine <suns...@none.invalid>
wrote:

>What about ignoring GE completely, and just trying GM by itself? It
>seems like all of your experimentation has included GE so far.

When I use GM by itself It does the same thing with one point at a
time. I try to use it with GE because I find GE faster for finding
the points I am looking for. Then one click to view in GM.