? Updating Maps on Nuvi (free upgrade)
Sam
version came out of City Navigator, I can update the map once. Like
today, I just bought the Nuvi 765T and it has CN NT 2010.20. I know
2010.30 NT is out. However, could I wait until 2011.xx comes out and
update it then, or would I only be able to upgrade one version?
Retired VIP
I think you have 30 days from the time the unit first acquires
satelite data to update to the latest maps. I guess if you don't turn
the unit on until the 2011 maps come out, you can update to that map.
Don B
time. I would wait until the end of the 60 days. I didn't and they came
out with another update a week after I updated.
jamier
According to Garmin Tech Support you get one shot at a free update
within the 60 days from your first position lock. So if you take the
2010.30 you are done. I have seen that the new updates tend to come
towards the end of the quarter most of the time. I hope this helps.
Sam
Thanks. I didn't realize the unit sends/relays the acquisition data to
Garmin in determining your eligibility. I thought it was from the time
you registered online.
Here's is another question. If the unit is defective (mine is....I have
one dead pixel and it's USB is flaky in connecting with a PC) and I dont
download the map update, or register the unit and send it in for repair,
say at the 55 day mark. I receive the unit back from Garmin, would I
have an additional 60 days to get a free update?
Don B
I updated my Nuvi 855 right after I received it and they came out with
another update a week after that, so if I had it to do over again I
would wait until near the end of the 60 days to update.
- Bobb -
"Don B" <bur...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Maybe I'm the exception, but with my 265T, I didn't DO anything to get the
update.
I powered it on one day while in the car and it updated itself. I would have
LIKED to delayed the update because mine was only a few weeks old. I
thought - oh good an update - I wonder how often it updates ( thinking -
like virus definitions - that it "just did it periodically")
- Bobb -
"Sam" <no...@none.com> wrote in message news:8AQYm.60$yy2...@newsfe01.iad...
the "one free update" is just due to the time the GPS might have been on the
shelf. So if in store for 180 days - you update - it's current. That's the
idea. Otherwise everyone would return them due to 'old maps'.
jamier
Garmin has said to us that when a unit goes in for repair it comes
back with the same or new map version that it had when it was sent
in. The newer normally is for the older units that have not been
updated, like if you had a unit with 2008 maps and sent it in today.
- Bobb -
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <hh6jm3$a4h$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm the exception, but with my 265T, I didn't DO anything to get
>> the
>> update.
>> I powered it on one day while in the car and it updated itself.
>
So that was firmware ?
I powered it up in the car, saw it say
... updating ... then rebooted.
Only took 30-60 seconds.
Mike Lane
With a reasonably fast broadband connection (10Mb/s) it takes at least 2
hours to download and install a full City Navigator map update.
--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
email: mike_lane at mac dot com
ps56k
"- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123> wrote in message
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yeah - even if you do it yourself via the Garmin WebUpdater.
The firmware image is transferred across the USB and loaded onto the GPS,
and then the next powerup cycle will actually load the firmware into
operating mode.
SO - if the firmware was loaded onto a repaired unit, then unplugged &
shipped,
you were the first to powerup and then the firmware was loaded.
- Bobb -
"ps56k" <pschuman_...@interserv.com> wrote in message
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register within 60 days ( still haven't - since all that had ever gotten me
with any other vendor was junk mail). I didn't even KNOW about that. Nothing
in the "quick user guide" about it and no owners manual came with a 265T -
just the "quick user guide".
CCR
: So I never did receive my one "free map update" , cuz I never went
: online to register within 60 days ( still haven't - since all that
: had ever gotten me with any other vendor was junk mail). I didn't
: even KNOW about that. Nothing in the "quick user guide" about it and
: no owners manual came with a 265T - just the "quick user guide".
That's usually the case, even with computer software. It's a "given"
that you you have to know to check for updates regularly. You connect
your device to your PC and download Garmin's webupdater. With my 765T,
it gave me a message to register my device on Garmin's website. It only
does this once.
ps56k
"Joel" <Jo...@NoSpam.plz> wrote in message
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> Sunshine <suns...@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:10:56 -0600, Joel <Jo...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
>> > Unless Garmin has changed or smart enough to figure out when you
>> > purchase
>> >the GPS then it's a different story. Else, Garmin will base on when you
>> >REGISTER your Garmin GPS, and they don't care if you purchase it 7
>> >months or
>> >over a year ago.
>> >
>>
>> By "register" I assume you mean the first time the unit is powered up
>> and allowed to acquire a satellite fix. It has nothing to do with
>> registering on Garmin's website.
>
> By "register" I mean the first time you actually CALL Garmin or CREATE an
> Internet Account with Garmin to register your unit.
>
> Powering up you Garmin GPS has nothing to do with registering your GPS.
> Except some service like MSN Traffic, FM Traffic, nuLINK service then you
> can register over the AIR.
Sorry - incorrect - -
for the free single map updates - it's determined from when you first "use
it"
and therefore the "first time sat lock" is achieved.
They could care less if it's registered or not - it's when you first used
it -
Trencherman
> In article <73n6l51s66v8becka...@4ax.com>,
> Joel <Jo...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
>
>>>> Unless Garmin has changed or smart enough to figure out when you purchase
>>>> the GPS then it's a different story. Else, Garmin will base on when you
>>>> REGISTER your Garmin GPS, and they don't care if you purchase it 7 months
>>>> or
>>>> over a year ago.
>>>>
>>> By "register" I assume you mean the first time the unit is powered up
>>> and allowed to acquire a satellite fix. It has nothing to do with
>>> registering on Garmin's website.
>> By "register" I mean the first time you actually CALL Garmin or CREATE an
>> Internet Account with Garmin to register your unit.
>>
>> Powering up you Garmin GPS has nothing to do with registering your GPS.
>
> sat-nav first acquired a signal, and NOT on when you registered it on
> their web site.
OK, so I've got a new nuvi. I'd like to update the software/firmware now
but wait 59 days to update the map. Can I do that?
Also, the unit came with map NA 2010.10 on it -- though 2010.30 is the
current map. Will I be locked into 3.0 when I do update if I register or
updage the software now? Suppose they release 4.0 next month? When I do
update, would I update to 3.0 or 4.0?
Dddudley
>
> OK, so I've got a new nuvi. I'd like to update the software/firmware now
> but wait 59 days to update the map. Can I do that?
>
> Also, the unit came with map NA 2010.10 on it -- though 2010.30 is the
> current map. Will I be locked into 3.0 when I do update if I register or
> updage the software now? Suppose they release 4.0 next month? When I do
> update, would I update to 3.0 or 4.0?
Under Garmin's current terms you have sixty days from the unit's FIRST
acquisition of a positioning signal to receive the free map upgrade to
the current map.
If NA 2010.30 is current when you do the upgrade, that's what you get.
If NA 2010.4 or 2011.10 is released two days later you will pay for it.
You get ONE free upgrade (if your map is not current when purchased) and
then you pay.
Sam
: : Under Garmin's current terms you have sixty days from the unit's
: acquisition of a positioning signal to receive the free map upgrade to
: the current map.
What is considered "acquisition of positioning signal"? Does that
include powering up your device and getting one red bar without getting
a firm fix? Or has it got something to do with the "Ifix" file?
Dddudley
> Dddudley<puzz...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2010 7:36 AM, Trencherman wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, so I've got a new nuvi. I'd like to update the software/firmware now
>>> but wait 59 days to update the map. Can I do that?
>>>
>>> Also, the unit came with map NA 2010.10 on it -- though 2010.30 is the
>>> current map. Will I be locked into 3.0 when I do update if I register or
>>> updage the software now? Suppose they release 4.0 next month? When I do
>>> update, would I update to 3.0 or 4.0?
>>
>> Under Garmin's current terms you have sixty days from the unit's FIRST
>> acquisition of a positioning signal to receive the free map upgrade to
>> the current map.
>
> your $$$ to saleman". But that isn't the answer.
>
>> If NA 2010.30 is current when you do the upgrade, that's what you get.
>> If NA 2010.4 or 2011.10 is released two days later you will pay for it.
>>
>> You get ONE free upgrade (if your map is not current when purchased) and
>> then you pay.
>
Joel also wrote: "I dunno why someone can just spray the wrong answers
to public."
I was asking a similar question.. Why does somebody just stand there
and say "Wrong answers too" without giving the correct answer? Could it
be that they don't know squat?
ps56k
"Joel" <Jo...@NoSpam.plz> wrote in message
> Dddudley <puzz...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2010 7:36 AM, Trencherman wrote:
>> >
>> > OK, so I've got a new nuvi. I'd like to update the software/firmware
>> > now
>> > but wait 59 days to update the map. Can I do that?
>> >
>> > Also, the unit came with map NA 2010.10 on it -- though 2010.30 is the
>> > current map. Will I be locked into 3.0 when I do update if I register
>> > or
>> > updage the software now? Suppose they release 4.0 next month? When I do
>> > update, would I update to 3.0 or 4.0?
>>
>> Under Garmin's current terms you have sixty days from the unit's FIRST
>> acquisition of a positioning signal to receive the free map upgrade to
>> the current map.
>
> your $$$ to saleman". But that isn't the answer.
>
>> If NA 2010.4 or 2011.10 is released two days later you will pay for it.
>>
>> You get ONE free upgrade (if your map is not current when purchased) and
>> then you pay.
>
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from the Garmin website -
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n�Maps Guarantee applies to one Garmin n�vi or zumo unit. Not transferable
to any other person or product. You will qualify for the free map update
only if (i) you register your n�vi or zumo online at http://my.garmin.com
within 60 days of first acquiring satellites while driving with your device,
and (ii) a newer version of the map data was or becomes available for
purchase from Garmin's website at any time up to 60 days after first
acquiring satellites while driving with your device. You will not qualify
for the free map update if you register your n�vi or zumo with Garmin by
telephone or more than 60 days after first acquiring satellites while
driving with your device. Limit of one free map update per unit.
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"If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright
- Bobb -
ask about this part of the deal ? ( I'm not trying to be a lawyer - just
wondering how a buyer WOULD know this:
re:
" You will qualify for the free map update only if
(i) you register your n�vi or zumo online at http://my.garmin.com
within 60 days of first acquiring satellites while driving with your device,
and (ii) a newer version of the map data was or becomes available for
purchase from Garmin's website at any time up to 60 days after first
acquiring satellites while driving with your device."
So IF I bought it in Sept - got in the car and drove 2 months - without
contacting anyone, how would I know that a new map WAS released ? Would a
message pop-up on my screen when I turn it on one day ? ( there WAS nothing
in the box telling me anything at all - just sales literature and a basic
intro to the interface ( post card)). I thought in late 2009 I'd get some
notification on my Nuvi. I didn't , so that is WHY I came here - to see how
to get my one free update - for free.
I've been one the road again for 3 months and in February I DID get a
pop-up telling me my 2009 map had expired and that I should buy a new one.
I DO like it but can't imagine that everyone that buys one then does a 4
HOUR download to get their "free map update". 90% of the folks I know that
are NOT in the computer biz don't know how to attach a file , nevermind do a
download, upgrade the firmware, etc.
I'm not being a wise-guy, but I came here to see how everyone else got their
map updated. OK I was naive but had no clue from the documentation on my
265T. I am in the computer business and figured that - as updates came out
they would download incrementally and maybe announce to me to " press YES to
install " at startup.
As it is, I'd buy a new one for $125 rather than spend $79 to update an old
one. Maybe that's their plan ? I just thought it to be lousy service.
flame off.
"ps56k" <pschuman_...@interserv.com> wrote in message
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Peter H. Coffin
> ps56k, it seems you know your Garmin info, so,since I started this, could I
> ask about this part of the deal ? ( I'm not trying to be a lawyer - just
> wondering how a buyer WOULD know this:
> re:
> " You will qualify for the free map update only if
> within 60 days of first acquiring satellites while driving with your device,
> and (ii) a newer version of the map data was or becomes available for
> purchase from Garmin's website at any time up to 60 days after first
> acquiring satellites while driving with your device."
Nothing mentioning notification in that, is there?
> So IF I bought it in Sept - got in the car and drove 2 months - without
> contacting anyone, how would I know that a new map WAS released ? Would a
> message pop-up on my screen when I turn it on one day ? ( there WAS nothing
> in the box telling me anything at all - just sales literature and a basic
> intro to the interface ( post card)). I thought in late 2009 I'd get some
> notification on my Nuvi. I didn't , so that is WHY I came here - to see how
> to get my one free update - for free.
>
> I've been one the road again for 3 months and in February I DID get a
> pop-up telling me my 2009 map had expired and that I should buy a new one.
Pure happenstance. I bought mine in October. It told me that my map was
probably old in February as well.
Of course, the map's not "expired", it's just older than other maps.
Odds are that there's very little reason to upgrade.
> I DO like it but can't imagine that everyone that buys one then does a 4
> HOUR download to get their "free map update". 90% of the folks I know that
> are NOT in the computer biz don't know how to attach a file , nevermind do a
> download, upgrade the firmware, etc.
> I'm not being a wise-guy, but I came here to see how everyone else got their
> map updated. OK I was naive but had no clue from the documentation on my
> 265T. I am in the computer business and figured that - as updates came out
> they would download incrementally and maybe announce to me to " press YES to
> install " at startup.
You install the garmin communicator thingy, plug in the GPS, follow
prompts on the garmin regstration site. Basically, the online registration
*walks you through* the checking for new maps process. Including, IIRC,
strongly hinting that you should check for updates regularly.
> As it is, I'd buy a new one for $125 rather than spend $79 to update an old
> one. Maybe that's their plan ? I just thought it to be lousy service.
Perfectly reasonable, IMHO. I'll be getting another unit in a couple of
years as well (especially once MSN Direct shuts down), and that new unit
will come with then-current maps.
I guess I'm not quite seeing what you're upset about aside from not
understanding what was kind of expected of you during that online
registration.
--
34. I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.
--Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord
- Bobb -
" I guess I'm not quite seeing what you're upset about aside from not
understanding what was kind of expected of you during that online
registration."
I'm over it now, but my complaint is/was that when I bought it there was
NOTHING in my Nuvi265T box telling that to get the latest map I had to do
ANYTHING. I thought it would update map as needed ( it's fetching my
location, it's fetching POI's as I drive so I thought parts of the map that
I used would be updated if needed ), so not only didn't I GET an update, I
didn't even know that I HAD to do anything to get an update. It wasn't until
late 2009 rolled around that I even KNEW about any of this ( by searching
here and then reading messages from others here talking about the "new
map".)
So I COULD have gotten my map updated had I known, but since I didn't , I
missed out on a "free updated map".
"Peter H. Coffin" <hel...@ninehells.com> wrote in message
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Sunshine
wrote:
>Thanks Peter. As for
>" I guess I'm not quite seeing what you're upset about aside from not
>understanding what was kind of expected of you during that online
>registration."
>
>I'm over it now, but my complaint is/was that when I bought it there was
>NOTHING in my Nuvi265T box telling that to get the latest map I had to do
>ANYTHING. I thought it would update map as needed ( it's fetching my
>location, it's fetching POI's as I drive so I thought parts of the map that
>I used would be updated if needed ),
It's actually not fetching anything. It's a completely passive device,
just quietly receiving satellite signals. All of the maps and POIs
that it knows about were previously loaded by someone, either Garmin
or you.
> so not only didn't I GET an update, I
>didn't even know that I HAD to do anything to get an update. It wasn't until
>late 2009 rolled around that I even KNEW about any of this ( by searching
>here and then reading messages from others here talking about the "new
>map".)
>
>So I COULD have gotten my map updated had I known, but since I didn't , I
>missed out on a "free updated map".
I'd bet that happens to most new owners, unfortunately.