KEVIN FILAN ARRESTED?
Antonica YRabshico
crimes and is being questioned by several Federal Agencies.
I didn't believe it at first, but when I tried to e-mail
him, I got my mail returned "user unknown". I then went a
step further and tried to click on his well-advertised site
and IT'S GONE.
WHERE'S KEVIN?
From his postings:
Kevin Filan http://www.ultinet.net/~harwer
har...@ultinet.net
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"The World's Smallest Systems Administrator"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
I tried these links and they don't work. If anyone can solve
the mystery please help me. I need to contact Kevin as I am
very concerned for his well-being.
Thank you.
6&7
I _did_ notice that his website was down, but that could be for any number
of reasons.
6&7
Foxy Demon
I wondered why he didn't flame me lately....
--
IN NOMINE SATANIS
Chris
1 TUFSX
Antonica YRabshico <oh...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:376881d4...@news.prodigy.net...
> I heard a rumor that Kevin Filan was arrested for computer
> crimes and is being questioned by several Federal Agencies.
> I didn't believe it at first, but when I tried to e-mail
> him, I got my mail returned "user unknown". I then went a
> step further and tried to click on his well-advertised site
> and IT'S GONE.
>
> WHERE'S KEVIN?
>
> From his postings:
>
> Kevin Filan http://www.ultinet.net/~harwer
> har...@ultinet.net
Mistress Dominion D'Chagrin
Jesus Loves all the Children of the world..and you too...
Debbie
> Antonica YRabshico <oh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:376881d4...@news.prodigy.net...
> > I heard a rumor that Kevin Filan was arrested for computer
> > crimes and is being questioned by several Federal Agencies.
> > I didn't believe it at first, but when I tried to e-mail
> > him, I got my mail returned "user unknown". I then went a
> > step further and tried to click on his well-advertised site
> > and IT'S GONE.
> >
> > WHERE'S KEVIN?
> >
> > From his postings:
> >
> > Kevin Filan http://www.ultinet.net/~harwer
> > har...@ultinet.net
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > "The World's Smallest Systems Administrator"
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> > I tried these links and they don't work. If anyone can solve
> > the mystery please help me. I need to contact Kevin as I am
> > very concerned for his well-being.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
A. Friend
If true, another argument against advertising your
"non-mainstream" ideas and interests under your own
name on a web page and in newsgroups.
Foxy Demon
He probably put a dress & wig on & went to alt.transgender...
Hail Satan
Chris
1 TUFSX
Mistress Dominion D'Chagrin <mistress...@apexmail.com> wrote in
message news:7kb6th$n7j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Kevin was saved on Monday and now is joining the catholic priesthood...
>
> Jesus Loves all the Children of the world..and you too...
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> > Antonica YRabshico <oh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:376881d4...@news.prodigy.net...
SATANIZER
YRabshico) wrote:
>I heard a rumor that Kevin Filan was arrested for computer
>crimes and is being questioned by several Federal Agencies.
Yes, I have confirmed that the rumor IS true. I spoke to
Kevin who is being detained at the Federal Building in NYC.
It seem as though Mr. Filan's constant alleged criminal
abuse of the USENET system finally caught up with him. It
also seems as though Kevin had an alleged outstanding
warrant by the Georgia State Police in connection with
alleged illegal "unauthorized" computer access he made at
the University of Georgia nearly four years ago. Kevin does
send his love to the group and assures everyone that he will
be back soon. He hopes. He is asking that for your support
in this very trying time.
>step further and tried to click on his well-advertised site
>and IT'S GONE.
Yes it is, due to the ongoing criminal proceedings his ISP
Ultinet has suspended his account, thus erasing his popular
internet site.
>WHERE'S KEVIN?
Again, he is in the Federal Building, NYC being questioned
by federal Agents.
>From his postings:
>
>Kevin Filan http://www.ultinet.net/~harwer
>har...@ultinet.net
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> "The World's Smallest Systems Administrator"
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Unfortunately, this signature will need to be changed.
Please let us join virtual hands and hope for a speedy
return of our beloved, Kevin Filan.
I truly miss emptying his waste paper basket and wiping his
computer screen clean each night.
But what do I know I'm just the janitor.
-SATANIZER "Satanic Sanitation Service"
Foxy Demon
Hail Satan
Chris
1 TUFSX
ps..Maybe Blanche could give up her dinner meal to help Kevee out...
SATANIZER <Satani...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:376b5305...@news.prodigy.net...
Rev.Eclipse
TO BRING BACK OL' FILAN!)
Hail Lucifer!
Rev.Eclipse
Les Masters
This time try it on Xloppytuna he does not beleive in curses and
deserves one. Rev Schlesinger does more damage to the CoS
membership efforts than anyone else, so cursing him would be counter
productive. Besides Rev Schlesinger has suffered enought with his
gay lover Herman Slater passing away due to aids.
the Daemon Egan wrote:
> Lord_H <lor...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:7kc51a$3d6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <11282-37...@newsd-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>
> Rev_E...@webtv.net (Rev.Eclipse) wrote:
>
> >> Maybe It Was The Curse I And Several People Put On Filan?
> >>(THOUGHT OUGHT TO BRING BACK OL' FILAN!)
>
> >I knew some wannabe dork would claim to have cursed him...
>
> --
> Sorry chump. The curse against Filan was initiated April 18 by members
> of the First Church of Satan... I suggest you go back and look at our
> archives
> at egroups... I also suggest you ask several of our members.
>
> Initially, Rev. Eclipse and others wanted to throw a curse on the
> entire CoS.
> As High Priest, I suggested that would be a waste of energy - much
> better
> to pick off key members one at a time. I'm the one who suggested
> Filan,
> the so-called "voice of reason" in the CoS. The evidence to back up
> this
> statement is verifiable - I intended to "prove" to FCoS members that
> curses are quite real. Frankly, I'm pleased with the results.
>
> I'd like to thank Father Nate Leved and His Church Lucifer and certain
> ToS
> members who wish to remain anonymous for their help.
> --
> Satan Lives! The All Is One!!
> the Daemon Egan, High Priest
> First Church of Satan - Salem, Massachusetts
> "Friendly Satanists... real people!!"
> FAQ: http://churchofsatan.org/faq.html
> Faces: http://churchofsatan.org/priesthood.html
> Read Satan's Bible Online! (under construction)
> http://churchofsatan.org/bible.html
> View our Suggested Reading List!
> http://churchofsatan.org/readlist.html
Lord_H
Rev_E...@webtv.net (Rev.Eclipse) wrote:
> Maybe It Was The Curse I And Several People Put On Filan? (THOUGHT
OUGHT
> TO BRING BACK OL' FILAN!)
I knew some wannabe dork would claim to have cursed him...
--
"To look upon the distress of the masses with an
ironic melancholy: they want something we are
capable of -- ah!" -- Nietzsche
A. Friend
up. A real Mathers-Crowley type spell-feud seems to be
in the offing. It is interesting that any COSers
would deny the effectiveness of spellcasting, when
ASL so often cited his infamous curse of Sam Brody.
Didn't Crowley counsel keeping a jar of your own
urine in the fridge as protection? I remember
reading about David Bowie trying that. Then again,
maybe it was all the cocaine (sniff).
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
A. Friend
In article <7kcf2j$mqa$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
--
Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
him. -- Michel Foucault
Angel-No1
Angel-No1
the Daemon Egan wrote in message <7kcf2j$mqa$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
Angel-No1
starvation.
Angel-No1
Hail the almighty true leader........Satan!
xtians beware when he rises!
Foxy Demon wrote in message ...
Lord_H
"the Daemon Egan" <eg...@churchofsatan.org> wrote:
> <sigh> I wish I had a photo of Xloppy and his REAL name - he
> is such a coward. My face... in fact, nude pictures of me are
> posted on the internet with my real name!
Making you courageous? No... Refusing to give his identity to pieces
of shit like you is nothing more than an act of discretion. Of course
you need something to bitch about, because every time Xloptuny decides
to focus his sights on you, he verbally smashes your fat-ass into
pieces...
> Ooops! Felon-Filan... FELON-FILAN... hehehehe
> I MADE A JOKE!!!!
No. Your mommy and daddy made a joke.
--
"To look upon the distress of the masses with an
ironic melancholy: they want something we are
capable of -- ah!" -- Nietzsche
ShambyOne
>return of our beloved, Kevin Filan.
Personally, I hope he gets raped by ten well hung black men.
ShambyOne
>of shit like you is nothing more than an act of discretion. Of course
>you need something to bitch about, because every time Xloptuny decides
>to focus his sights on you, he verbally smashes your fat-ass into
>pieces...
Go cry somewhere else, you're making us sick...What a wuss.
ShambyOne
>took out for coffee - I have nothing to hide. I'm so glad they
>finally captured that felon Filan. <sigh>
>
>Ooops! Felon-Filan... FELON-FILAN... hehehehe
>I MADE A JOKE!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Right on, bro, fuck Filan! (Or perhaps just get in
line?)
ShambyOne
>return of our beloved, Kevin Filan.
>
I hope he gets life with no parole and rolls over on Karena Jones while he's at
it. (He's probably singing his fucking punk heart out and Lupo is shitting
bricks).
A big hand for the Feds!
Dina
curses is just sad. If he has been arrested it's because he got
caught doing something he should not have been doing. A curse has
nothing to do with that. In fact it sounds like more wiccan
bullshit.
~me
--
It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our
air and water that are doing it. - Dan Quayle, regarding pollution.
the Daemon Egan wrote:
>
> <sigh> I wish I had a photo of Xloppy and his REAL name - he
> is such a coward. My face... in fact, nude pictures of me are
> posted on the internet with my real name!
>
> I also gave my address, phone everything to that FBI man I
> took out for coffee - I have nothing to hide. I'm so glad they
> finally captured that felon Filan. <sigh>
>
> Ooops! Felon-Filan... FELON-FILAN... hehehehe
> I MADE A JOKE!!!!
> --
> Satan Lives! The All Is One!!
> John Dewey Allee
> the Daemon Egan, High Priest
> First Church of Satan - Salem, Massachusetts
> "Friendly Satanists... real people!!"
> FAQ: http://churchofsatan.org/faq.html
> Faces: http://churchofsatan.org/priesthood.html
> Read Satan's Bible Online! (under construction)
> http://churchofsatan.org/bible.html
> View our Suggested Reading List!
> http://churchofsatan.org/readlist.html
>
> Les Masters <lmas...@socket.net> wrote in message
> news:3769CA39...@socket.net...
> Daemon Egan, I am immpressed. Would you please try it again?
> This time try it on Xloppytuna he does not beleive in curses and
> deserves one. Rev Schlesinger does more damage to the CoS
> membership efforts than anyone else, so cursing him would be counter
> productive. Besides Rev Schlesinger has suffered enought with his
> gay lover Herman Slater passing away due to aids.
>
> the Daemon Egan wrote:
>
> > Lord_H <lor...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:7kc51a$3d6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <11282-37...@newsd-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> >
> > Rev_E...@webtv.net (Rev.Eclipse) wrote:
> >
> > >> Maybe It Was The Curse I And Several People Put On Filan?
> > >>(THOUGHT OUGHT TO BRING BACK OL' FILAN!)
> >
> > >I knew some wannabe dork would claim to have cursed him...
> >
> > --
> > Sorry chump. The curse against Filan was initiated April 18 by
> members
> > of the First Church of Satan... I suggest you go back and look at
> our
> > archives
> > at egroups... I also suggest you ask several of our members.
> >
Dina
A. Friend
OK, whose brand of Satanism is this? Certainly not
Anton LaVey's -- he often stated his belief in the
power of magic (including curses), although he didn't
like the "pretentious" Crowleyan addition of the "k".
Check the description of the "private destruction ritual"
against Sam Brody in _The Secret Life of a Satanist_, p 109.
One doesn't have to accept an anthropomorphic Satan in
order to believe that a focused, adrenal burst of energy can
help cause changes to occur in comformity with the will.
You can't "see" radio or television signals either,
but that doesn't mean they aren't there. Satanism,
I thought, was about balancing the rational and
irrational, the Apollonian and the Dionysian -- not
about denying the existence of anything suprasensory.
A. Friend
nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> Anyone living in in a world so deluded that they believe in
> curses is just sad. If he has been arrested it's because he got
> caught doing something he should not have been doing. A curse has
> nothing to do with that. In fact it sounds like more wiccan
> bullshit.
>
> ~me
--
Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
him. -- Michel Foucault
Les Masters
find
some references to curses and lesser magic. Both are availible to the
public and should be read.
Foxy Demon
I hope dear old Kevin found some really nice and hung man in prison to take
care of all his needs....It would be a shame for dear old Kev to end up with
some guy in prison with AIDS... (wouldn't this be appropriate for the
motherfucker...) A fitting end to the Irish Jew who held no respect for
anyone and did what he wished to others, such as making harrassing phone
calls to them at home.... and other things I rather not bring up.
Kevin...Here is to you...
"May you enjoy your "Man" you found today and may he treat yor right. So
bend over Kevin, while he drives it home..
But seriously....
We should remember one thing.......Kevin is gone and the party continues...
--
Hail Satan
Chris
1 TUFSX
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Lord_H
lmas...@socket.net wrote:
> If A. Friend will take the time to read TSB and the GMHB s/h/it will
> find
> some references to curses and lesser magic. Both are availible to the
> public and should be read.
Read his post again. He was speaking in reference to another poster's
statement that curses sound like "Wiccan bullshit." You must have only
read the first sentence of his post, because your response makes no
sense whatsoever.
--
"To look upon the distress of the masses with an
ironic melancholy: they want something we are
capable of -- ah!" -- Nietzsche
PalpZ
wrote:
>Curses = Wiccan bullshit?
>
>OK, whose brand of Satanism is this?
Ummmm... I may be going out on a Limb here, but perhaps Dina's?
A. Friend
Very witty. I wasn't aware that Dina had codified her
own version. Perhaps she'll be launching a web site soon?
How about calling it "The Church of Satan Without Satan"?
A. Friend
--
Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
him. -- Michel Foucault
Dina
no one has any power to do anything to me, except myself.
Dina
the power to "curse" Kevin, and bring him the bad luck to be
arrested?
Am I correct?
This is madness.
Tell them I want to win the lotto next time they are busy decapitating
chickens in satan's name.
A. Friend
> So you obviously seem to think someone from the net had
> the power to "curse" Kevin, and bring him the bad luck to be
> arrested?
> Am I correct?
> This is madness.
> Tell them I want to win the lotto next time they are busy decapitating
> chickens in satan's name.
You're right, it is "madness." The harnessing of
madness for a purpose, that is.
Anyway, you can tell "them" (the FCOS) yourself. I haven't
heard that they were into animal sacrifice or Lotto
forecasting. I think you're shifting the grounds of
the argument a tad.
Let me turn the tables: Can you say for sure that a "curse"
or whatever you want to call it, is just superstition?
I'm not telling you what to think, but if you totally
discount the notion of the irrational and the occult,
why bother with Satanism: why not just stick with other
forms of atheistic rationalism? Correct me if I'm
wrong, but I don't think there's _any_ major Satanic group,
including the COS, that totally discounts the practice of
higher magic, or magick, or whatever.
A. Friend
"You cannot be an elitist, a Magician, and be
plugged into the system." -- Anton Szandor LaVey.
A. Friend
A. Friend <afrie...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> > So you obviously seem to think someone from the net had
> > the power to "curse" Kevin, and bring him the bad luck to be
> > arrested?
> > Am I correct?
BTW, I forgot to mention, I think that the gentleman
in question was quite well-known to the FCOS, and
he certainly had made the particulars of his life,
including his image, quite readily available via his
web site, etc. So I think this goes a little deeper
than just two random Net posters throwing curses at
each other. Of course, you'll believe what you want
to believe, and ultra-rationalism is a belief just
like any other.
Lex Talionis
>Perhaps she'll be launching a web site soon?
>How about calling it "The Church of Satan Without Satan"?
>
>A. Friend
Hmmm ... Reminds me of that great movie "Wise Blood" where a similar attempt
was made to start a church entitled: "The Church of Christ without Christ" --
with unpleasant results.
"A petty thought is like a fungus: it creeps and stoops and does not want to be
anywhere--until the whole body is rotten and withered with little fungi."
Nietzsche
WwSd?
A. Friend
nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> I just do not believe in curses, spells, magic.
> no one has any power to do anything to me, except myself.
I would say that is "madness." Power impinges upon your
life every second of the day. You were speaking before
about your job: do you really think you'd go to work
if you hadn't been coerced into it by years of
training and indoctrination through school and TV?
"Power" is diffuse and operates in all kinds of ways, not
all them readily apparent -- just like "curses," perhaps.
Keep this in mind: the people with the real money and
sovereignty don't work. You work so they don't have to.
They have "all the time in the world." Your time is
their money. "They" do have power over you, lots of it.
It's a curse!
If work was so great, the rich would have kept it
for themselves.
A. Friend
--
Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
him. -- Michel Foucault
A. Friend
lexta...@aol.com (Lex Talionis) wrote:
> Hmmm ... Reminds me of that great movie "Wise Blood" where a similar
attempt was made to start a church entitled: "The Church of Christ
without Christ" -- with unpleasant results.
Yep. John Huston's finest hour. A great movie with not one
likeable character! And a case where the movie actually improved
upon the book (by Flannery O'Connor).
Foxy Demon
after reading your post...WHY DO YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR MONEY FOR A LAVYIN
PIECE OF BULL SHIT WRITTEN BY A LAVEYIN AND NOT A TRUE SATANIST.
I bought a copy once....and now it is the lining of my birdcage...absorbs
shit really well....But isn't that what Howie Lavey wanted...
--
Hail Satan
Chris
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Dina <nadin...@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:3AF561CF...@geocities.com...
> When I was a kid; I rebelled against christianity by practicing
> wicca. I never believed in it, but I tried it anyway.
>
> I cast a spell one day that came true.
> It was a fluke, yes, but it came true.
> That made me start thinking... Damn! maybe
> there is something to this?
>
> So my belief in it strengthened.
> I tried other spells that had to do with my physical appearance.
>
> That's right! I lost 59 pounds under the black magic diet program!
>
> Anyways... I was sold. I was a believer.
> When i tried to do things to other people. (always good of course)
> it never worked. I realized why.
>
> Magic works when you cast it on yourself because it is all in the
> subconscious. But once you try doing it to someone else, it fails.
> you can't control someone else's destiny.
>
> I'll be honest with you and explain how I came to call myself
> "satanic" which may get me flamed a lot. (Like I care?)
>
> I met a guy in college, he was sexy as hell and seemed to like me a
> lot. i wanted him bad.
> I found out he had a web page.
> Went to it.
> it was a satanic site... (one you all keep talking about)
> At first I was like.. shit! this guy is a devil worshipper! freak!
> But.. he was so damn sexy, I didn't want to think he was a weirdo, so
> I ask him about it. he told me a bit about it, and it didn't sound
> as nuts as I thought it would.
>
> Well, the looser ended up having a fucking fiancé, and turned
> into a nazi, so I ditched him for his best friend.
> he too was a satanist, from where I continued hearing about it.
> I started to get into it, because it made sense to me.
>
> i was completely unable, to buy a satanic bible at the time.
> i live in the bible belt... those aren't exact on the shelves
> at K-mart here.
> So i HAD to either read up on it via the net, and through people
> who already know, or nothing.
> In a few weeks, I will be getting a copy of the real thing.
> Finally I won't have to rely on the word of 2 guys I don't even associate
with
> anymore, or web pages.
> I believe what i believe whether there is a name for it or not.
> and after I get the satanic bible, and read it first hand, I'll be more
prepared
> to discus my potential satanicness.
>
> "A. Friend" wrote:
> >
> > nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> > > So you obviously seem to think someone from the net had
> > > the power to "curse" Kevin, and bring him the bad luck to be
> > > arrested?
> > > Am I correct?
> > > This is madness.
> > > Tell them I want to win the lotto next time they are busy decapitating
> > > chickens in satan's name.
> >
> > You're right, it is "madness." The harnessing of
> > madness for a purpose, that is.
> >
> > Anyway, you can tell "them" (the FCOS) yourself. I haven't
> > heard that they were into animal sacrifice or Lotto
> > forecasting. I think you're shifting the grounds of
> > the argument a tad.
> >
> > Let me turn the tables: Can you say for sure that a "curse"
> > or whatever you want to call it, is just superstition?
> > I'm not telling you what to think, but if you totally
> > discount the notion of the irrational and the occult,
> > why bother with Satanism: why not just stick with other
> > forms of atheistic rationalism? Correct me if I'm
> > wrong, but I don't think there's _any_ major Satanic group,
> > including the COS, that totally discounts the practice of
> > higher magic, or magick, or whatever.
> >
> > A. Friend
> >
> > "You cannot be an elitist, a Magician, and be
> > plugged into the system." -- Anton Szandor LaVey.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
PalpZ
wrote:
>In article <376dd91e.20500354@news>,
> pa...@home.com (PalpZ) wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:46:49 GMT, A. Friend <afrie...@my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Curses = Wiccan bullshit?
>> >
>> >OK, whose brand of Satanism is this?
>> Ummmm... I may be going out on a Limb here, but perhaps Dina's?
>
>Very witty. I wasn't aware that Dina had codified her
>own version. Perhaps she'll be launching a web site soon?
>How about calling it "The Church of Satan Without Satan"?
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that to say you are part of a system of
beliefs that you agree with most of the points of, also requires you
to accept the other parts of it which you may think are bullshit. Dina
doesn't have to Codify anything, just say to say to themself, Ok, this
stuff works for me, but I think this stuff is crap.
>A. Friend
>--
>Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
>him. -- Michel Foucault
>
>
Dina
Synic1772
>Magic works when you cast it on yourself because it is all in the
>subconscious. But once you try doing it to someone else, it fails.
>you can't control someone else's destiny.
There are quite a few things wrong with this statement.
************************************
http://members.aol.com/synic1772/
Dina
"A. Friend" wrote:
> I would say that is "madness." Power impinges upon your
> life every second of the day. You were speaking before
> about your job: do you really think you'd go to work
> if you hadn't been coerced into it by years of
> training and indoctrination through school and TV?
Nope, I'd say my boss is what coerced me into it. My first cousin
and boss woke up one morning and offered me a job. of course, I know what
you mean, though. That is just life...
> "Power" is diffuse and operates in all kinds of ways, not
> all them readily apparent -- just like "curses," perhaps.
>
> Keep this in mind: the people with the real money and
> sovereignty don't work. You work so they don't have to.
> They have "all the time in the world." Your time is
> their money. "They" do have power over you, lots of it.
> It's a curse!
Nope, it's just the way the world works.
If I create something... say.. the worlds first remote controlled
lawn mower. (Don't laugh, I'd buy one) patent it, put my name on it,
and hire people to build them for me in factories I set up... that's
business. It could happen to anyone with ambition.
What I am disputing is being able to "curse" someone in the oldest
sense of the word. As in spells, mind over matter, mojo.
> If work was so great, the rich would have kept it
> for themselves.
>
> A. Friend
>
> --
> Man needs what is evil in him for what is best in
> him. -- Michel Foucault
>
Dina
deep, profound philosophy. I could not possibly become a devil worshipper,
because I do not believe in a Devil.
Foxy Demon wrote:
>
> question Dina
>
> after reading your post...WHY DO YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR MONEY FOR A LAVYIN
> PIECE OF BULL SHIT WRITTEN BY A LAVEYIN AND NOT A TRUE SATANIST.
>
> I bought a copy once....and now it is the lining of my birdcage...absorbs
> shit really well....But isn't that what Howie Lavey wanted...
>
> --
> Hail Satan
> Chris
> 1 TUFSX
> Emissary for The Devils Church
>
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>
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> Dina <nadin...@geocities.com> wrote in message
> news:3AF561CF...@geocities.com...
> > When I was a kid; I rebelled against christianity by practicing
> > wicca. I never believed in it, but I tried it anyway.
> >
> > I cast a spell one day that came true.
> > It was a fluke, yes, but it came true.
> > That made me start thinking... Damn! maybe
> > there is something to this?
> >
> > So my belief in it strengthened.
> > I tried other spells that had to do with my physical appearance.
> >
> > That's right! I lost 59 pounds under the black magic diet program!
> >
> > Anyways... I was sold. I was a believer.
> > When i tried to do things to other people. (always good of course)
> > it never worked. I realized why.
> >
> > Magic works when you cast it on yourself because it is all in the
> > subconscious. But once you try doing it to someone else, it fails.
> > you can't control someone else's destiny.
> >
Synic1772
that means this is take 2.
>Dina <nadin...@geocities.com> wrote:
>Magic works when you cast it on yourself because it is all in the
>subconscious. But once you try doing it to someone else, it fails.
>you can't control someone else's destiny.
Ok, as I attempted to say before, there are a few things wrong with what you
are saying here. (Well, to me anyway.)
One cannot say that magic only works on a subconscious level. Since magic is a
conscious act wouldn't it make sense to think that it can also be used as a
psychological reinforcer? I mean in some ways magic is akin to positive
thinking in overdrive.
Another thing wrong with what you have said is "you cannot control someone
else's destiny"
Well, to believe in the concept of destiny is in a way, to believe that there
is some type of 'man behind the curtain' controlling the show. Meaning that
destiny is the idea that everything is already pre-planned and no one has any
type of control over ones life.
Sorry, if I'm being nit picky...
The biggest problem I have with this, is what about those of us who have had
results? Are you going to say that we are all crazy? Or that what we have
experienced has been all coincidence?
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A. Friend
nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> Magic works when you cast it on yourself because it is all in the
> subconscious. But once you try doing it to someone else, it fails.
> you can't control someone else's destiny.
I've no doubt that the self-magic can work as a form
of hypnosis, sure. I'm not trying to minimize the
seriousness of the subject. I think events can be
influenced, but like anything else, it's something
in which expertise must be acquired. I think that too
many people get some fanciful notion of throwing curses
around when they don't know what they're doing. It's
not something that can be approached lightly, which is
why LaVey correctly tended to downplay that aspect of Satanism.
Unfortunately, the allure of power is the first thing
that draws many powerless types to the religion.
> I'll be honest with you and explain how I came to call myself
> "satanic" which may get me flamed a lot. (Like I care?)
>
> Well, the looser ended up having a fucking fiancé, and turned
> into a nazi, so I ditched him for his best friend.
> he too was a satanist, from where I continued hearing about it.
> I started to get into it, because it made sense to me.
Satanism draws "Nazi" types for the same reason that
"magic[k]" does: the allure of power for people who
are lacking it in their lives. The rather illogical
assumption on the part of such types is that under
such a system, _they_ would be among the elite.
Personally, I think fascist systems are essentially
anti-Satanic, as they restrict the will-to-power.
And although his ideas were taken out of context and
exploited by ol' Adolph, Nietzsche was anti-fascist, as
much as some would probably like to think otherwise.
> i was completely unable, to buy a satanic bible at the time.
> i live in the bible belt... those aren't exact on the shelves
> at K-mart here.
My condolences. Try amazon.com.
> I believe what i believe whether there is a name for it or not.
> and after I get the satanic bible, and read it first hand, I'll be
more prepared
> to discus my potential satanicness.
Sounds good to me.
A. Friend
A. Friend
nadin...@geocities.com wrote:
> From what I was told, and from what I understand it is a
> deep, profound philosophy. I could not possibly become a devil
worshipper,
> because I do not believe in a Devil.
I think ASL is a good starting point for what you're looking
for. After that, you might want to check out some of his
influences, like Nietzsche, and some literary manifestations of
Satanism. There's good stuff listed on the alt.satanism FAQ (one
very Satanic book is J-K Huysmans'_Against Nature_). All
are pieces of the puzzle.
A. Friend
"You cannot be an elitist, a Magician, and be
plugged into the system." -- Anton Szandor LaVey.
Lord_H
"the Daemon Egan" <eg...@churchofsatan.org> wrote:
> Sorry chump. The curse against Filan was initiated April 18 by members
> of the First Church of Satan... I suggest you go back and look at our
> archives
> at egroups... I also suggest you ask several of our members.
So Egan, when are you going to begin replying to the posts *uploaded*
[heh heh] by a so-called "MrHarwer," who seems to be Kevin Filan
himself! Is he simply lying about working overtime, or has your curse
not yet had its effect? Perhaps it has, perhaps you do have some
magical ability; he did lose his [previous {dime a dozen}] ISP. Ha!
--
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ironic melancholy: they want something we are
capable of -- ah!" -- Nietzsche
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lord_of...@my-deja.com
"the Daemon Egan" <eg...@churchofsatan.org> wrote:
> There's alot Mr. HarWer ISN'T telling you... I am on the inside track.
Enlighten us, O great and wise master of black magic. Surely, with
your powers of divination, you know the *REAL* story. And of course, you
certainly WOULDN'T be afraid to let us know the *TRUTH* about the
effects of your curse on Kevin Filan. Or would you?
- Nick Ring
belial
lord_of...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7ledtg$v25$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> Enlighten us, O great and wise master of black magic. Surely, with
>your powers of divination, you know the *REAL* story. And of course, you
>certainly WOULDN'T be afraid to let us know the *TRUTH* about the
>effects of your curse on Kevin Filan. Or would you?
After 15 hours of intense masturbation in his bathroom (his ritual chamber)
he managed to cause Kev to need to urinate. Of course, this could have
been a natural occurance, but the dark lord satan told him he'd caused it.
..belial..