Phyllis knows nothing of eastern philosophy
Anonymous
her "background". As if just because her parents might be some
religion, she knows better than anyone about that religion.
Here is what an ACTUAL EXPERT had to say, after talking to phyllis and
listening to her insanity for only a short time. Joe Steve Swick is a
respected free mason, and someone who has spent years studying eastern
philosophy.
Tani is no Buddhist -- Tibetan or otherwise. I speak, read and write
Japanese, and my background is in eastern religion, with a focus on
Japanese Buddhist traditions. I encountered Vajrayana through Shingon
(i.e, TRUE WORD, or MANTRA) Buddhism
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingon_Buddhism), a very important
Vajrayana sect in Japan. So, I'm familiar with the basic outline of the
matter.
I'm also familiar with quite a number of Tibetan Buddhist authors, and
I find that they generally do not present their traditions as LHP. They
also state that the practices associated therewith are "Crazy Wisdom"
and dangerous. The truth is, Tantra/Tibetan Buddhism is not by nature
LHP. LHP or vama-marga refers to specific practices within the Tantric
tradition, called the panca-tattva. These practices are the consumption
of wine or other intoxicants,the consumption of meat, fish and parched
grains, and maithuna, or sexual intercourse. The first four practices
are intended to stir kundalini, the last to direct it. In RHP
traditions, the elements of the panca-tattva are interpreted
symbolically; interpreting them literally is characteristic of LHP. The
idea is to use taboo-breaking or the
violation of established social mores as a device which opens the mind
to enlightenment. Tani denies this is so, but a resort to any good
Buddhist/Hindu dictionary will verify what I have said.
I would also say that I do not personally accept that Tani is a siddha
or adept, as Kaiden has suggested.
JSW
You're a joke, Phyllis. A TOTAL JOKE.
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> I'm also familiar with quite a number of Tibetan Buddhist authors, and
> I find that they generally do not present their traditions as LHP.
That should be 'HPL.'
Phyllis Cleaver ©
"Offramp" <alane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Vamacara means "left hand path." True, it is not fashionable in the USA to
say anything is LHP. People learn that very quickly. Vamacara, however,
means left hand path.
Why on earth would you cross post this to alt.horror.cthulhu - except for
the sole purpose of being a royally trivial, petty piece of human garbage.
Oh, that's why you did that.
dh
>You're a joke, Phyllis. A TOTAL JOKE.
She certainly is in regards to the possibility of
a creator. Her thoughts on that topic and everything
related to it are like those of a young child.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:qtdig3pnp1vkqggmg...@4ax.com...
You mean, your interpretation of what I said would make it so. You are a
very poor reader of English language - and you are also a supreme
telemarketer. And my name is not Phyllis.
For the record - keeping it very very short.
1. Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
2. There is no way to prove there IS or is NOT a creator.
3. None of that is SCIENCE, it's OUTSIDE the realm of science.
That - was the ENTIRE brunt of all I said. Oh, I told you about my
beliefs - which do not involve a creator. You could not understand it 10
times. I suggested you give it up.
And yes, indeed - Vamacara means left hand path. Look it up, ya dope.
Perturbus
<dh@.> wrote in message news:qtdig3pnp1vkqggmg...@4ax.com...
ram...@ramsey-campbell.com
And my name is not Phyllis.
If you'll forgive a disinterested question, have you not posted
further up this thread as Phyllis Cleaver? If not, I apologise.
Dan Clore
She did, as a joke, obviously.
Incidentally, Ward Cleaver mentions in one episode of _Leave It to
Beaver_ that he had his own subscription to _Weird Tales_ as a boy. It
might be interesting to speculate about his favorite authors -- I'm
thinking Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. And, of course, one can
further speculate on just how this literary background might have
influenced the way he raised Wally and the Beaver.
--
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Al Smith
>> On Oct 11, 5:56?am, "Tani Jantsang?" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>> And my name is not Phyllis.
>>
>> If you'll forgive a disinterested question, have you not posted
>> further up this thread as Phyllis Cleaver? If not, I apologise.
>
> She did, as a joke, obviously.
>
> Incidentally, Ward Cleaver mentions in one episode of _Leave It to Beaver_ that he had his own subscription to _Weird Tales_ as a boy. It might be interesting to speculate about his favorite authors -- I'm thinking Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. And, of course, one can further speculate on just how this literary background might have influenced the way he raised Wally and the Beaver.
>
> --
> Dan Clore
Gadzooks! If what you write is true, we can only conclude that the
cosmic conception of the Beve is the result of Lovecraft's
fiction. The horror, the horror. Perhaps 1950s America was crafted
by the hands of the Old Ones themselves. All those smiling
housewives in television commercials, with their aprons and
perfect cast-iron permanents, with their equally cast-iron smiles
... what creatures inhabited that cold, wax-like flesh?
-Al-
dh
>Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
I'll be sure to keep that quote.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:tr5tg31nlipn8i5tf...@4ax.com...
WOW, I'm honored that you feel my mere statements to be worthy of keeping.
Like Scripture, hey?
Here is a better one:
Live is a wonder to be LIVED - not a problem to be solved. TJ.
At this point, I regard you as EVIL, dh. REALLY evil. You do things that
obstruct the LIGHT - and you keep trying to do it more and more. You are
SUFFOCATING.
Go away.
Tani Jantsang©
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
news:ADtPi.12301$%B2.9013@edtnps82...
>> ram...@ramsey-campbell.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 11, 5:56?am, "Tani Jantsang?" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>> And my name is not Phyllis.
>>>
>>> If you'll forgive a disinterested question, have you not posted
>>> further up this thread as Phyllis Cleaver? If not, I apologise.
>>
>> She did, as a joke, obviously.
>>
>> Incidentally, Ward Cleaver mentions in one episode of _Leave It to
>> Beaver_ that he had his own subscription to _Weird Tales_ as a boy. It
>> might be interesting to speculate about his favorite authors -- I'm
>> thinking Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. And, of course, one can
>> further speculate on just how this literary background might have
>> influenced the way he raised Wally and the Beaver.
You're kidding! No, I guess you're not kidding. WOW, I never caught that,
tho I did see all the episodes as a kid.
>>
See in.
>> --
>> Dan Clore
>
>
> Gadzooks! If what you write is true, we can only conclude that the cosmic
> conception of the Beve is the result of Lovecraft's fiction. The horror,
> the horror. Perhaps 1950s America was crafted by the hands of the Old Ones
> themselves. All those smiling housewives in television commercials, with
> their aprons and perfect cast-iron permanents, with their equally
> cast-iron smiles ... what creatures inhabited that cold, wax-like flesh?
Excuse me, but I hope you are joking. Imo, those were fantastic times, good
economy, good life, a lot of fun, no molly coddling required of parents on
kids - a LOT of freedom and people did also learn self discipline, and
responsibility, as KIDS they learned it, which is crucial to real freedom.
>
> -Al-
Biggus Dickus
Oh boy. Ever thought Tani might just be posting this herself? JSW
doesn't post here, he's an alt.freemasonry guy and never posts using
an anonymous server. Old news, no one cares except for alt.satanism's
resident kook Tani Jantsang.
Wanda
Dan Clore
> "Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
> news:ADtPi.12301$%B2.9013@edtnps82...
>>> ram...@ramsey-campbell.com wrote:
>>>> On Oct 11, 5:56?am, "Tani Jantsang?" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>>> And my name is not Phyllis.
>>>>
>>>> If you'll forgive a disinterested question, have you not posted
>>>> further up this thread as Phyllis Cleaver? If not, I apologise.
>>> She did, as a joke, obviously.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, Ward Cleaver mentions in one episode of _Leave It to
>>> Beaver_ that he had his own subscription to _Weird Tales_ as a boy. It
>>> might be interesting to speculate about his favorite authors -- I'm
>>> thinking Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith. And, of course, one can
>>> further speculate on just how this literary background might have
>>> influenced the way he raised Wally and the Beaver.
>
> You're kidding! No, I guess you're not kidding. WOW, I never caught that,
> tho I did see all the episodes as a kid.
Not kidding at all. I think it was the episode where the boys have been
seeing horror movies, and Eddy Haskell convinces the Beaver that he has
hypnotized him and he's going to kill for his "master". June doesn't
like the boys seeing horror movies, and Ward explains how boys like the
stuff, pointing out that he had his own subscription to _Weird Tales_ at
their age. After Eddy Haskell has freaked the Beaver out so bad, they
decide that the boys ought to go see _Pinocchio_ instead of the horror
movies Eddy wants to see. In the end even Eddy ends up going to
_Pinocchio_ (which doesn't seem to have taught him any lessons about
honesty, but that's another matter). (I say "I think" because I haven't
seen the episode in question recently enough to feel completely certain
that this was the one.)
Another episode shows the boys reading issues of _Fantastic Stories_ and
_Thrilling Detective Stories_.
Tani Jantsang©
because he studied it in a book.
Yes, I grew up with Lamaism . And yes, I said it is NOT the same as
Buddhism, not quite - even if it gets lumped in with it.
What is in Tibet is not Buddhism either. It's a mixture of Indian Buddhism
and Bonpo. What Lamaism is with Tatars is a mixture of bastardized Tibetan
Buddhism, using words from that especially, and old Tatar Shamanism - which
has elements of what is recognized as Taoism in it. LHP is Yin. RHP is
Yang. Nothing more. The two can not exist apart from each other. That OUR
belief. I could care less what a Mormon control freak had to say.
I do NOT like my family or my own person libeled. You suck Wanda.
"Biggus Dickus" <wandat...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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dh
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:tr5tg31nlipn8i5tf...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:56:13 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
>>
>> I'll be sure to keep that quote.
>
>WOW, I'm honored that you feel my mere statements to be worthy of keeping.
>Like Scripture, hey?
LOL...no, not like that. Don't get too carried away :-)
>Here is a better one:
>
>Live is a wonder to be LIVED - not a problem to be solved. TJ.
That's not really better, but in a way it's ok. It also works against
your denial of having cozy feelings about what you choose to believe
though, so apparently you have some conflict with your own thinking.
It would be interesting to see you try to sort this one out and come up
with a quote that applies to you better than this one.
>At this point, I regard you as EVIL, dh. REALLY evil.
It's the cognitive dissonance Tani. I warned you that it's very
uncomfortable...remember. Also, if the beast does exist then I've been
encouraging you to think about things that he would not want you
to think about, so he would amplify the dissonance in an effort to restrict
your thinking the way he wants to. In a way it's a good sign though.
You're having growing pains.
>You do things that
>obstruct the LIGHT - and you keep trying to do it more and more. You are
>SUFFOCATING.
No. I'm encouraging you to think MORE, and your own brain--and
possibly the beast--is/are trying to prevent you from exanding your
thinking to include possibilities that it/they don't want to consider. The
stifling influence is from within yourself and possibly the other source,
but not from me.
>Go away.
I always do. Don't you?
huw....@gmail.com
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:05:30 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:56:13 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
>
> >> I'll be sure to keep that quote.
>
> >WOW, I'm honored that you feel my mere statements to be worthy of keeping.
> >Like Scripture, hey?
>
> LOL...no, not like that. Don't get too carried away :-)
>
> >Here is a better one:
>
> >Live is a wonder to be LIVED - not a problem to be solved. TJ.
>
> That's not really better, but in a way it's ok. It also works against
> your denial of having cozy feelings about what you choose to believe
> though, so apparently you have some conflict with your own thinking.
> It would be interesting to see you try to sort this one out and come up
> with a quote that applies to you better than this one.
"Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved" is a
quote taken from an unfathomably dire '80s movie called 'Tuff Turf' (I
cringe every time I think of that title).
Kori Houghton
LOL! Knew it could not be original with TJ. Here's the link to
quotables from TUFF TURF:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090213/quotes
Now watch her claim that she was the first to use this phrase in
English...her own translation from some
obscure Masonic school text originally in Arabic/Turkish/Sanskrit/
Russian/Yugotthic or maybe Edgar Allen Poe?.
Luv,
Kori
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dh
>On Oct 15, 1:56 am, dh@. wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:05:30 -0400, "Tani JantsangŠ" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>
>> ><dh@.> wrote in messagenews:tr5tg31nlipn8i5tf...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:56:13 -0400, "Tani JantsangŠ" <tjs...@spampost.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
>>
>> >> I'll be sure to keep that quote.
>>
>> >WOW, I'm honored that you feel my mere statements to be worthy of keeping.
>> >Like Scripture, hey?
>>
>> LOL...no, not like that. Don't get too carried away :-)
>>
>> >Here is a better one:
>>
>> >Live is a wonder to be LIVED - not a problem to be solved. TJ.
>>
>> That's not really better, but in a way it's ok. It also works against
>> your denial of having cozy feelings about what you choose to believe
>> though, so apparently you have some conflict with your own thinking.
>> It would be interesting to see you try to sort this one out and come up
>> with a quote that applies to you better than this one.
>
>
> "Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved" is a
>quote taken from an unfathomably dire '80s movie called 'Tuff Turf' (I
>cringe every time I think of that title).
Thanks for the explanation, but it still seems to work against Tani's
claim that she isn't cozy with what she has chosen to believe.
the 2nd coming of christ
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:36:10 -0700, huw....@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Oct 15, 1:56 am, dh@. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:05:30 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ><dh@.> wrote in messagenews:tr5tg31nlipn8i5tf...@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:56:13 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not.
>>>
>>> >> I'll be sure to keep that quote.
>>>
>>> >WOW, I'm honored that you feel my mere statements to be worthy of keeping.
>>> >Like Scripture, hey?
>>>
>>> LOL...no, not like that. Don't get too carried away :-)
>>>
>>> >Here is a better one:
>>>
>>> >Live is a wonder to be LIVED - not a problem to be solved. TJ.
>>>
>>> That's not really better, but in a way it's ok. It also works against
>>> your denial of having cozy feelings about what you choose to believe
>>> though, so apparently you have some conflict with your own thinking.
>>> It would be interesting to see you try to sort this one out and come up
>>> with a quote that applies to you better than this one.
>>
>>
>> "Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved" is a
>>quote taken from an unfathomably dire '80s movie called 'Tuff Turf' (I
>>cringe every time I think of that title).
>
> Thanks for the explanation, but it still seems to work against Tani's
>claim that she isn't cozy with what she has chosen to believe.
get over it. she'll believe whatever she feels like and you'll
like it.
--
``Could it be that ... political theater is being staged, very much like the wrestling matches on TV, with the so-called neoconservatives and their so-called enemies, such as Pat Buchanan, loudly making public statements intended to convince the opponents of US foreign policy actions that these actions are the fault of 'the Jews'?'' --Jared Israel/Emperor's Clothes
Tani Jantsang©
"the 2nd coming of christ" <jesuc...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Life is a wonder to be lived, not a problem to be solved, are words to a
song I performed in the 60s. And yes, I wrote it.
Dh is psychotic. He's ophionic to the max.
Speakng of CREATIONS, however - did I mention the canopy I created that
really IS easy to put up in the sand? OH, it's great!
Tani Jantsang©
<huw....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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For the record, buster:
Life is a Wonder to be Lived. 1963 TJ
Detune guitar, DADDAD, arhythmic.
I asked my Mom about the Cold War
She said, "politics is a confused mess
That's best to simply ignore."
Life is a wonder to be lived,
not a problem to be solved.
Yes, life is a wonder to be lived.
And it's truly simple, not complex.
What's more, it's all that Life can give.
Life is a wonder to be lived,
not a problem to be solved.
Yes, life is not a problem to be solved
And only a few things are important.
Most problems are easily resolved.
Life is a wonder to be lived,
not a problem to be solved.
Fact is, it's 100% true. Illness and financial - these are major issues to
pay attention to. Birth and death to a lesser extent. Nothing else REALLY
matters worth a shit except to have chit chats about. Humans just LOVE to
chit chat, basically about nothing much. I please guilty . I'm a chatter.
None of it means anything. Sitting on the sand, ocean breeze blowing, surf
making sounds - that has MORE meaning - for me.
Some folks think the "relationship thing" is of monumental importance. Nah.
You get along or you don't. No big deal. People never learn to just go
their own way - and that is why they create problems for themselves. Life
is SIMPLE, buster. Very very simple. It's muddle headed clutter brains
that try to complicate it all.
This little song came from me actually asking my Mom what the Cold War was
about - inspired by all that Bay of Pigs bs and Kennedy's death.. As if
anyone really KNEW what it was really about - HA. The song is just a
paraphrase of what my mom actually said, plus a bit more. Don't bother
critisizing the verses, I was freaking 12 years old at the time.
And why the HELL is this still cross posted to ahc?
huw....@gmail.com
> <huw.li...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Not sure why you are suddenly calling me 'buster', but never mind. As
to all this tiresome cross-posting -- why the hell, indeed! I joined
alt.horror.cthulhu to discuss HPL, not be subjected to this other
nonsense, which has no business being here. I'm not quite sure why
you're explaining your views on life to me, or why you wrote your
song, as this doesn't concern me in the least -- I was simply
commenting that a similar quote appeared in the horrible '80s film I
mentioned (as confirmed by IMDB).
the 2nd coming of christ
> I was simply
>commenting that a similar quote appeared in the horrible '80s film I
>mentioned (as confirmed by IMDB).
>
since tani's song was written in the 60s and this is an 80s movie,
we may conclude that the writers were inspired by tani's song...
Dan Clore
The episode was just on. The boys go to see a movie called _Voodoo
Curse_. The Beaver then puts a voodoo curse on Eddy Haskell. By
coincidence, Eddy fakes being sick to get out of school. Beaver is so
relieved that he tells Eddy about the curse. Eddy then gets sick. Ward
ends up concocting a countercurse for him.
Ward also mentions that he read _Dracula_ four times as a boy.
--
Dan Clore
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dh
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:04:26 -0700, huw....@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I was simply
>>commenting that a similar quote appeared in the horrible '80s film I
>>mentioned (as confirmed by IMDB).
>>
>
>since tani's song was written in the 60s and this is an 80s movie,
>we may conclude that the writers were inspired by tani's song...
Since Tani didn't come up with the idea we can conclude
that she's trying to take credit for something she doesn't deserve.
How very UNSURPRISING that is...like her prideful boasting
that she doesn't feel pride, her insistence that she doesn't feel
cozy with her own beliefs, and her offended claim that she
doesn't get offended, etc.
dh
People can't believe a thing you say.
"Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved." - Soren Kierkegaard
http://www.merkabaweb.net/life.htm
>Dh is psychotic. He's ophionic to the max.
I point out facts which people try to ignore and
I feel should be taken into consideration, and I
point out when people are full of shit. The concept
that life is . . . ., "not a problem to be solved" brought
up over 47 thousand results in a Google search. The
first few at least gave credit to Soren Kierkegaard:
"Danish Philosopher and Theologian, generally recognized
as the first existentialist philosopher. 1813-1855"
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/life_is_not_a_problem_to_be_solved-but_a_reality/12047.html
You heard it somewhere, and now are dishonestly
trying to take credit for something which you
DO NOT deserve!
Kori Houghton
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:34:14 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>
> >news:47151e1d....@news.sysmatrix.net...
> >> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:44:45 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
Yup. I found that reference, too, the first time Tani used the phrase
on alt.satanism. We read Kierkegaard in college, and I thought it
sounded familiar.
I expect that now Tani and/or her sniffboi may post that Tani's
*people* (ie, the Tatars/Turanians/Lamas/llamas) originated the
concept, and old Soren stole it from them. LOLOL
>
> You heard it somewhere, and now are dishonestly
> trying to take credit for something which you
> DO NOT deserve!-
Tani and her SR associates have a history of plagiarism, with several
incidents exposed here on the alt.s Google archive. Very amusing
stuff. She's actually the only person I've encountered so far online
who repeatedly pushes hard to take full creative credit for common
expressions (heh, 47K Google results!) or familiar works by well-known
authors. Honesty is not one of her strong points. Of course, the
only people who are taken in by Tani's usenet rants are more than a
bit short on brainpower -- and stupidity is its own punishment!
Luv,
Kori
dh
That does seem likely. It's a well known fact that after a peson
starts being dishonest about something, they keep on making up
more and more dishonesty in their attempt to back it up. The only
real way out is to admit the truth in the first place, but people who
are honest by nature instead of dishonest like her don't say dishonest
things like that in the first place, so they don't have the same problems
that people like Tani have.
I've noticed that she also tries to make herself appear to be above
other humans by pridefully boasting that she does'nt feel pride, and
claiming that she doesn't get offended even as she reacts in nasty
ways to things which obviously have offended her. Then she gets
offended again when someone points out that is what she did...
>> You heard it somewhere, and now are dishonestly
>> trying to take credit for something which you
>> DO NOT deserve!-
>
>Tani and her SR associates have a history of plagiarism, with several
>incidents exposed here on the alt.s Google archive. Very amusing
>stuff.
I've noticed that aspect as well...the most amusing part about
it is probably that she appears to think everyone believes her.
>She's actually the only person I've encountered so far online
>who repeatedly pushes hard to take full creative credit for common
>expressions (heh, 47K Google results!) or familiar works by well-known
>authors. Honesty is not one of her strong points.
No, in fact the truth doesn't really seem to matter to her at all.
>Of course, the
>only people who are taken in by Tani's usenet rants are more than a
>bit short on brainpower -- and stupidity is its own punishment!
>
>Luv,
>Kori
Good point. She tries to make herself look good, but trying
to make herself look good by being obviously dishonest turns
things around and just makes her look extra bad. The poor fool.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:6bcsh31dgqvne60ml...@4ax.com...
OH, hah, you go agreeing with and believing the biggest devil worshiping
bitch, a bitch obsessed with trivial shit, on the planet. Nice going, dh.
>
> That does seem likely. It's a well known fact that after a peson
> starts being dishonest about something, they keep on making up
> more and more dishonesty in their attempt to back it up.
They are words to a song I wrote. I posted about it and posted the words.
I never heard it from anyone - but the song IS based on what my mom actually
said to me when I asked a question about cold war. End of story.
The only
> real way out is to admit the truth in the first place, but people who
> are honest by nature instead of dishonest like her don't say dishonest
> things like that in the first place, so they don't have the same problems
> that people like Tani have.
You are a paranoid schizophrenic - and a Christian fundie trying to dupe
people into "conversations" - when in truth, all you want is a MONOLOGUE.
>
> I've noticed that she also tries to make herself appear to be above
> other humans by pridefully boasting that she does'nt feel pride,
I don't. What it is? I couldn't even tell you. I get some A on a test.
So what. I don't FEEL anything one way or the other. Perhaps - relieved.
and
> claiming that she doesn't get offended even as she reacts in nasty
> ways to things which obviously have offended her.
You mean I shove your shit back at you when you heave it? Sure thing.
Then she gets
> offended again when someone points out that is what she did...
>
>>> You heard it somewhere, and now are dishonestly
>>> trying to take credit for something which you
>>> DO NOT deserve!-
I wrote a song. Those are two lines from the song. I can't help it if
someone else also said the same or SIMILAR thing.
>>
>>Tani and her SR associates have a history of plagiarism, with several
>>incidents exposed here on the alt.s Google archive. Very amusing
>>stuff.
Wrong. The story is very simple. Walter gave me a thing to post up there
from a Temple of Set pylon. He THOUGHT someone he knew wrote it. It turned
out someone else wrote it. When I was informed, I immediately TOOK IT DOWN.
That is the A to Z of it. I didn't put my name on it. It was just up
there, from the TOS.
>
> I've noticed that aspect as well...the most amusing part about
> it is probably that she appears to think everyone believes her.
I don't particularly give a flying fuck WHO believes me. This is usenet.
I don't know any of y ou - and in real life I would not WANT to know you. I
certainly would never even throw a life raft to the devil worshiping bitch
named Kori Houghton - Jana Gromlich - Eve Koschel formerly of the Temple of
Set.
>
> No, in fact the truth doesn't really seem to matter to her at all.
Truth matters much when it comes to IMPORTANT shit. Nothing you have to say
is important, dh. You are a fundie trying to pose as something else. That
makes you a deceiver and a liar.
>
>>Luv,
There goes that word again - from a person that loves NOTHING, not even
herself. The most petty bitch on the planet.
>>Kori
>
> Good point. She tries to make herself look good, but trying
> to make herself look good by being obviously dishonest turns
> things around and just makes her look extra bad. The poor fool.
And you believe this bitch. Good job, DH. Sucker.
Tani Jantsang©
this has nothing to do with.
<dh@.> wrote in message news:vgoph39sm0kvdq5j0...@4ax.com...
You no talent bastard. HA! I wrote the SONG I just posted words to. I
performed it. In the 60s. You are a jealous little bastard, dh. OH, now,
it is VERY possible that my mother WAS quoting something known to her. But
I wrote that song. Prideful boasting my fucking ass. You are ego
projecting again. AGAIN. If YOU performed a song, YOU'd be boasting and
proud of it. My my, you are one total, trivial WASTE of time - like the
devil worshiping bitch you just got yourself as your new best girlfriend.
Do I get under your skin, dh? Yes, I surely do. Welcome to my CHAIN, how
does the leash feel - you yelping mut.
Biggus Dickus
Another Kooky Attempt To Get The alt.satanism To Give Her A Few Crumbs
Of Attention In Her Arid Existence:
Snore...Snore...Snore...
>From A Boor...Boor...Boor
Could it be that Tani is actually an ancient Llaman Turanian archetype
that Shakespere was inspired to script Richard The Third?????
Or as the professionals note:
DSM-IV Definition of BPD
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships,
self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early
adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five
(or more) of the following:
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not
include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships
characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and
devaluation. This is called "splitting."
Following is a definition of splitting from the book I Hate You, Don't
Leave Me by Jerry Kreisman, M.D. From page 10:
The world of a BP, like that of a child, is split into heroes and
villains. A child emotionally, the BP cannot tolerate human
inconsistencies and ambiguities; he cannot reconcile anther is good
and bad qualities into a constant coherent understanding of another
person. At any particular moment, one is either Good or EVIL. There is
no in-between; no gray area....people are idolized one day; totally
devalued and dismissed the next.
Normal people are ambivalent and can experience two contradictory
states atone time; BPs shift back and forth, entirely unaware of one
feeling state while in the other.
When the idealized person finally disappoints (as we all do, sooner or
later) the borderline must drastically restructure his one-dimensional
conceptionalization. Either the idol is banished to the dungeon, or
the borderline banishes himself in other to preserve the all-good
image of the other person.
Splitting is intended to shield the BP from a barrage of contradictory
feelings and images and from the anxiety of trying to reconcile those
images. But splitting often achieves the opposite effect. The frays in
the BP's personality become rips, and the sense of his own identity
and the identity of others shifts even more dramatically and
frequently.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or
sense of self.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging
(e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge
eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior
covered in (5).
Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating
behavior.
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g.,
intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a
few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
Chronic feelings of emptiness.
Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g.,
frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical
fights).
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative
symptoms.
Dissociation is the state in which, on some level or another, one
becomes somewhat removed from "reality," whether this be daydreaming,
performing actions without being fully connected to their performance
("running on automatic"), or other, more disconnected actions. It is
the opposite of "association" and involves the lack of association,
usually of one's identity, with the rest of the world.
There is no "pure" BPD; it coexists with other illnesses. These are
the most common. BPD may coexist with:
Post traumatic stress disorder
Mood disorders
Panic/anxiety disorders
Substance abuse (54% of BPs also have a problem with substance abuse)
Gender identity disorder
Attention deficit disorder
Eating disorders
Multiple personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Luv,
Wanda
On Oct 23, 8:06 pm, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
> I'm removing the cross post because you people are SPAMMING a newsgroup that
> this has nothing to do with.
>
>
>
>
>
> <dh@.> wrote in messagenews:vgoph39sm0kvdq5j0...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:06:48 GMT, jesucris...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
> > of christ) wrote:
> not a problem to be solved.- Hide quoted text -
Tani Jantsang©
Tuned To Tani-Land Borderline Personality Dysfunction Junction In
Another Kooky Attempt To Get The alt.satanism To Give Her A Few Crumbs
Of Attention In Her Arid Existence:
You are one stalking libelous bitch - whoever you are. One of Lavey's
little spaniels, I'd bet money on that one.
Snore...Snore...Snore...
>From A Boor...Boor...Boor
Could it be that Tani is actually an ancient Llaman Turanian archetype
that Shakespere was inspired to script Richard The Third?????
Or as the professionals note:
Wanda - that is PURE libel. By law, you must tell me WHO you are, if you
choose to stalk me and libel me like that.
DSM-IV Definition of BPD
Chronic feelings of emptiness.
Post traumatic stress disorder
Mood disorders
Panic/anxiety disorders
Gender identity disorder
Attention deficit disorder
Eating disorders
Multiple personality disorder
Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Luv,
Wanda
dh
><dh@.> pointed out:
>>the truth doesn't really seem to matter to her at all.
>
>Truth matters much when it comes to IMPORTANT shit.
>Nothing you have to say is important, dh.
You're just trying to justify being dishonest toward me
whenever you want to, which it appears that you do.
dh
>I'm removing the cross post because you people are SPAMMING a newsgroup that
>this has nothing to do with.
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:vgoph39sm0kvdq5j0...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:06:48 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
>> of christ) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:04:26 -0700, huw....@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was simply
>>>>commenting that a similar quote appeared in the horrible '80s film I
>>>>mentioned (as confirmed by IMDB).
>>>>
>>>
>>>since tani's song was written in the 60s and this is an 80s movie,
>>>we may conclude that the writers were inspired by tani's song...
>>
>> Since Tani didn't come up with the idea we can conclude
>> that she's trying to take credit for something she doesn't deserve.
>> How very UNSURPRISING that is...like her prideful boasting
>> that she doesn't feel pride, her insistence that she doesn't feel
>> cozy with her own beliefs, and her offended claim that she
>> doesn't get offended, etc.
>
>You no talent bastard. HA! I wrote the SONG I just posted words to. I
>performed it. In the 60s. You are a jealous little bastard, dh.
LOL! Certainly not of a goofy dishonest fool like you.
>OH, now,
>it is VERY possible that my mother WAS quoting something known to her.
That slight acknowledgement toward the truth is a huge accomplishment
for you. Congratulations.
>But
>I wrote that song. Prideful boasting my fucking ass. You are ego
>projecting again. AGAIN. If YOU performed a song, YOU'd be boasting and
>proud of it. My my, you are one total, trivial WASTE of time - like the
>devil worshiping bitch you just got yourself as your new best girlfriend.
LOL. Your childlike thinking isn't limitted only to the possibility of a
creator, that is FOR SURE!
>Do I get under your skin, dh? Yes, I surely do. Welcome to my CHAIN, how
>does the leash feel -
Hilarious. You're turning out to be as much fun as Goo.
>you yelping mut.
>
>Life is a Wonder to be Lived. 1963 TJ
>Detune guitar, DADDAD, arhythmic.
>
>I asked my Mom about the Cold War
>She said, "politics is a confused mess
>That's best to simply ignore."
>
>Life is a wonder to be lived,
>not a problem to be solved.
>
>Yes, life is a wonder to be lived.
>And it's truly simple, not complex.
>What's more, it's all that Life can give.
>
>Life is a wonder to be lived,
>not a problem to be solved.
>
>Yes, life is not a problem to be solved
>And only a few things are important.
>Most problems are easily resolved.
Notice that you referred to problems, and
also that "resolved" includes the word "solved".
I haven't pointed this out to you before Tani,
but that particular line of thinking is again very
childlike and it would ONLY apply to people
who are in a postion that ONLY involves simple
problems like a child's. For other people who have
a significant number of complicated problems
your childlike claim does NOT apply. You get
another DUH for that one.
>Life is a wonder to be lived,
>not a problem to be solved.
That still works against your insistence that you're
not comfortable with the things you've chosen to
believe, btw.
the 2nd coming of christ
> Hilarious. You're turning out to be as much fun as Goo.
see tani? i told you... he gets off on this shit...
Tani Jantsang©
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:34:32 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>> Hilarious. You're turning out to be as much fun as Goo.
>
> see tani? i told you... he gets off on this shit...
I went back on my word - m y bad very very bad. I posted to him again.
There is nothing more to say.
He's a cult-like manipulator - or a wannabe cult-like manipulator. Lemme
guess - and now this is gonna be below the belt. I think the man's DICK
doesn't work. LMAO. I can see the spaniels coming out of the closet on
that one to flame me for saying it. HA!!
Perhaps he desires a gay relationship, but is way too in the closet to go
for it - so he imagines this MALE Jesus creator thing - INSIDE him.
HAAAAAAAAAAAA. oh, ok. I'll shut up. Notice how he tries to do the "why
why" questions with Flower now? Heh.
Admission of truth, blah blah. How the FUCK could I possibly know where my
mom got her ideas? I asked her a question. I got inspired to make a song.
I was fucking 12 years old so yeah - it's just what it is. I prefer to use
words to poems already written and write music to them - I did that a lot in
the 60s with a crew I played with. Unfortunately, imo, they were into
BEATLES songs. Ugh. I used to listen to all that, get the chords for
them - and then, bingo - we'd play them. But notice how the bastard has to
criticize the song.
He's obsessed with "childlike" as his favorite insult. Heh. OH does that
have BIG spiritual connotations in my culture? HELL yes. He's not
Innocent - he's polluted and he desires to pollute others. He has no
innocence IN him - and no love either. he trashes beliefs that even
American Indians sort of share with us when it comes to the Great Spirit or
Mahakala or Sri Kala Chakra - or whatever you want to call it.
he also quibbles over language. He INSISTS on creator - even if OUR
cultural experience tends more toward a BIRTHER, an emator. OH, wait, 2nd.
WAIT. You are gonna LOVE this. If you want to know who wrote it, EMAIL ME,
and I'll tell you :) It might blow your mind. Note: COSMIC BIRTHER - that
is an emanation, a BIRTH as the "Darkness is One" sees it.
O Cosmic Birther of all radiance and vibration!
Soften the ground of our being and carve out a space within us where Your
Presence can abide
Fill us with your creativity so that we may be empowered to bear the fruit
of your mission.
Let each of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.
Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share what each being needs to grow
and flourish.
Untie the tangled threads of destiny that bind us, as we release others from
the entanglement of past mistakes
Do not let us be seduced by that which would divert us from our true
purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present moment.
For you are the round and the fruitful vision, the birth-power and
fulfillment, as all is gathered and made whole once again.
"So mote it be."
(You'd never believe where this is actually from - but no matter - it's
quite Dark...)
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:s57vh3d9feop0eql0...@4ax.com...
There you go again with the "justify" shit. I don't OWE you the truth at
all. Never thought of that? I don't justify shit to anyone - I'm not at a
fucking job here.
Who are you?
What is your name?
Where are you?
You are a phony that pretends he knows more than a Jesuit Priest knows, that
pretends he asks questions to "make people think." All you do is clutter up
this newsgroup with nothingness - with WORTHLESS shit. Absolutely
worthless.
I offered you the dare: call me up. Come on over. I'll play music for
you. I'll show you my Dirt Devil. Then you pay up for the trouble. You
are a coward that pretends he's brave, too. You are too scared to even meet
me or call me.
You ask questions that are answered in the paragraph you pretend to read.
You are a bigot when it comes to other people's cultural spirituality -
especially since mine is VERY much like some American Indian's system. that
makes you a racist, you white boy. You defame every single Taoist on the
planet, every single Lamaist and every single Buddhist. You do realize that
in Buddhism there is no god, right? No creator. Nothing like that. WE
think, and that's collective - that such beliefs are extremely silly. I
know that monotheism is the worst nightmare that humans ever came up with -
and explaining why is just too simple, it needs no explanation unless you
are too stupid to understand it, which is what I think.
Why this, why that. You ask people "why do you think this or that" when
they just told you that they don't bother thinking about that kind of shit
in the first place.
This has gone on long enough. You are going to think what you think about
me and everyone else that disagrees with you or mocks you out - and imagine
that I or anyone else gives a shit about it. Go ahead. Dream on - and
please do NOT forget to jack off while you are thinking. You do that with
every single post you make and expect everyone else to engage in your little
circle jerk.
Asat/Sat. Try this on for size - that is the ONLY really real reality. The
rest of everything else is samsaric.
Ridero ergo sum.
dh
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:s57vh3d9feop0eql0...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:01:25 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>><dh@.> pointed out:
>>
>>>>the truth doesn't really seem to matter to her at all.
>>>
>>>Truth matters much when it comes to IMPORTANT shit.
>>>Nothing you have to say is important, dh.
>>
>> You're just trying to justify being dishonest toward me
>> whenever you want to, which it appears that you do.
>
>There you go again with the "justify" shit. I don't OWE you the truth at
>all. Never thought of that?
LOL. No, because I'm an honest type of person. Only
someone who is very comfortable lying would try to
justify their lies in such a pathetic way.
>I don't justify shit to anyone -
You try to, and then you immediately try to deny it.
It's both hilarious and pathetic. What a fool.
>I'm not at a
>fucking job here.
>
>Who are you?
>What is your name?
>Where are you?
>
>You are a phony that pretends he knows more than a Jesuit Priest knows,
About what? There are things I know that no Jesuit Priests know.
There are even things that you know that no Jesuit Priests know,
and you have a terrible time trying to figure out what you think. So
specifically what is it you're trying to bitch about this time, can you
figure it out?
>that
>pretends he asks questions to "make people think."
I encourage you to think beyond your extremely childlike thoughts
regarding the possibility of a creator, but that's more than your mental
limitations will allow:
"It's not something to "think about."" - Tani
I DO encourage you to try to think, and you admittedly refuse
to try. Then sometimes you lie and say I don't encourage it,
and other times complain because I do.
>All you do is clutter up
>this newsgroup with nothingness - with WORTHLESS shit. Absolutely
>worthless.
If you ever want to become a more honest person who can think
about the possibility of a creator in a better than childlike way, then
I do have something of value to offer. But as long as you want to
remain dishonest and childlike, then yes it is worthless to you.
>I offered you the dare: call me up. Come on over. I'll play music for
>you. I'll show you my Dirt Devil. Then you pay up for the trouble. You
>are a coward that pretends he's brave, too. You are too scared to even meet
>me or call me.
>
>You ask questions that are answered in the paragraph you pretend to read.
>You are a bigot when it comes to other people's cultural spirituality -
>especially since mine is VERY much like some American Indian's system. that
>makes you a racist, you white boy. You defame every single Taoist on the
>planet, every single Lamaist and every single Buddhist. You do realize that
>in Buddhism there is no god, right? No creator. Nothing like that.
It doesn't say that there is not one, it just doesn't say that there is.
It's not a concern, yet you make it one by trying to oppose the
possibility even though you yourself have said:
"Maybe there is a creator, maybe there is not." - Tani
It's easy to stick with the only part you are comfortable with and
take refuge in, while you refuse to think about the harder things
because they are a threat to what you have become comfortable
with, as I keep pointing out and you keep proving, but for some
reason you still want to deny it. The question is: WHY do you
want to deny it? Why are you ashamed of it? And since you
apparently are ashamed of it (otherwise you wouldn't deny it),
why don't you want to change???
>WE
>think, and that's collective - that such beliefs are extremely silly. I
>know that monotheism is the worst nightmare that humans ever came up with -
>and explaining why is just too simple,
Yet you can not explain it. I challenge you to try. GO:
>it needs no explanation unless you
>are too stupid to understand it, which is what I think.
LOL! When you fail to explain it, it will show that you are too.
>Why this, why that. You ask people "why do you think this or that" when
>they just told you that they don't bother thinking about that kind of shit
>in the first place.
Why do you deny that I encourage you to think about things that
you also bitch about me encouraging you to think about, do you have
any idea?
>This has gone on long enough. You are going to think what you think about
>me and everyone else that disagrees with you or mocks you out - and imagine
>that I or anyone else gives a shit about it. Go ahead. Dream on - and
>please do NOT forget to jack off while you are thinking. You do that with
>every single post you make
You really are a stupid person, Tani.
dh
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:34:32 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>> Hilarious. You're turning out to be as much fun as Goo.
>
>see tani? i told you... he gets off on this shit...
We all get something out of it or we wouldn't
do it. Now you get a duh for that one.
flower of romance
<tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>
>There you go again with the "justify" shit. I don't OWE you the truth at
>all. Never thought of that? I don't justify shit to anyone - I'm not at a
>fucking job here.
>
>Who are you?
>What is your name?
>Where are you?
He's a troll. His name is troll and he lives under a bridge. Don't
waste your time on him
>
>You are a phony that pretends he knows more than a Jesuit Priest knows, that
>pretends he asks questions to "make people think." All you do is clutter up
>this newsgroup with nothingness - with WORTHLESS shit. Absolutely
>worthless.
Spot on. :)
>
>I offered you the dare: call me up. Come on over. I'll play music for
>you. I'll show you my Dirt Devil. Then you pay up for the trouble. You
>are a coward that pretends he's brave, too. You are too scared to even meet
>me or call me.
Don't give the lunatic your contact details, please.