i request the approval of satan
dustin.s...@gmail.com
i have to do a senior project to graduate high school. if i dont do
this, i cant graduate. ive had trouble thinking of ideas for it, but
i think i finally got one. i want to start a sort of club for
satanists and those interested in satanism. the first few meetings, i
would educate people who a re just interested on the theory and
practice of satanism. then we would read books and listen to music
that is considered 'evil', then discuss it. with the people who end
up staying, they will help me with my rituals. i think its a grande
idea. i also have another project idea to fall back on if this one
falls through (building a casket is the other idea).
if this is a bad idea, please keep the ripping to a minimum. if this
is a good idea, feel free to tell me so.
i didnt want to start this and find out that other satanists see this
as bullshit or a waste of time or something. that would take away so
much joy from doing this.
oh. shit. i forgot....stay the hell off this thread, you xtian
lurking bastards. i already know your answer, so you dont have to
post. i did all the work for you. now you can atrophy into a pile of
flesh so satan can drag your limp carcass to the dark reaches of
hell. the best part is, youll be too weak to resist my dark lord.
so thats there. im waiting on this. prompt replies are favorable.
hasta
HAIL SATAN
the 2nd coming of christ
and not mention satan... that will just scare people off... maybe
later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
rituals and what not, but you would all need to vote on it, so
people don't feel like you're a king dictating all the rules and
what not... make it democratic... and also let the members bring
up their own suggestions of things you might not even think of...
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:34:08 -0000, dustin.s...@gmail.com
wrote:
--
``Could it be that ... political theater is being staged, very much like the wrestling matches on TV, with the so-called neoconservatives and their so-called enemies, such as Pat Buchanan, loudly making public statements intended to convince the opponents of US foreign policy actions that these actions are the fault of 'the Jews'?'' --Jared Israel/Emperor's Clothes
Tani Jantsang©
organizations believe in such a being because that's just Christian
inversionism. Not any of the satanic organizations have a conception of
satan, by whatever name they call it, as something evil at all. Far from
it. Most of them see the reality - that Christianity and the deeds done due
to Christianity ARE TRULY evil. They aren't duped. Or at least they aren't
duped as far as their rhetoric goes.
If you do this for your school project - you might not get the A grade you
seek. You might get yourself investigated and a whole bunch of other
negative shit that --- really would be a pain in your butt and a waste of
your time.
<dustin.s...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191584048....@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
dh
>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
Yeah, some people do want to avoid a beast who wants
to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
...do you have any idea why?
>maybe
>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>rituals and what not,
How very satanic...first trick them into becoming part of a
group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
begin to slimily sneak in tiny fragments of the truth. No doubt
the beast would approve highly, as he laughs at and ridicules
the bunch of you/them.
dh
>so...heres the deal:
>i have to do a senior project to graduate high school. if i dont do
>this, i cant graduate. ive had trouble thinking of ideas for it, but
>i think i finally got one. i want to start a sort of club for
>satanists and those interested in satanism. the first few meetings, i
>would educate people who a re just interested on the theory and
>practice of satanism.
If you have the slightest crumb of human decency about you,
you will not try the dishonest trick suggested by the beast's servant
who dishonestly refers to himself as the second coming... In complete
contrast to that dishonesty, if you have any decency about you you
will begin by presenting the following quote:
"I'm one helluva liar. Most of my adult life, I've been accused of being
a charlatan, a phony, an impostor. I guess that makes me about as close
to what the Devil's supposed to be, as anyone. It's true. I lie constantly,
incessantly. Because I lie so often, I'd really be full of shit if I didn't keep
my mouth shut and my bowels open." - Satan's Boy Howard Levey,
author of the Satanic Bible
and then go on to the rest of the lies ect told by Howard, so that your
fellow students will have a more realistic understanding. If you refuse
to point out the lies, then you yourself will also be taking on guilt for those
lies, and for lying to your fellow students. If you decide to be somewhat
honest, then present them with the lies exposed here:
http://www.myusm.com/usm448166.html
so they have a better idea of what you're trying to get them involved with.
dh
>There are almost no satanists that believe in a literal Satan. None of the
>organizations believe in such a being because that's just Christian
>inversionism. Not any of the satanic organizations have a conception of
>satan, by whatever name they call it, as something evil at all. Far from
>it. Most of them see the reality - that Christianity and the deeds done due
>to Christianity ARE TRULY evil. They aren't duped. Or at least they aren't
>duped as far as their rhetoric goes.
>
>If you do this for your school project - you might not get the A grade you
>seek. You might get yourself investigated and a whole bunch of other
>negative shit that --- really would be a pain in your butt and a waste of
>your time.
How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
waste of time?
the 2nd coming of christ
>On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:46 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>
>>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
>
> Yeah, some people do want to avoid a beast who wants
>to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
>...do you have any idea why?
and they're referred to as christo or islamo-fascists
>
>>maybe
>>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>>rituals and what not,
>
> How very satanic...first trick them into becoming part of a
>group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
>and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
>begin to slimily sneak in tiny fragments of the truth. No doubt
>the beast would approve highly, as he laughs at and ridicules
>the bunch of you/them.
>
it's just using tact.
dh
>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:42:48 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:46 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>
>>>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>>>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
>>
>> Yeah, some people do want to avoid a beast who wants
>>to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
>>...do you have any idea why?
>
>and they're referred to as christo or islamo-fascists
>
>>
>>>maybe
>>>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>>>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>>>rituals and what not,
>>
>> How very satanic...first trick them into becoming part of a
>>group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
>>and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
>>begin to slimily sneak in tiny fragments of the truth. No doubt
>>the beast would approve highly, as he laughs at and ridicules
>>the bunch of you/them.
>>
>
>it's just using tact.
It's more than that and I know you know it. There may be
people who wouldn't be aware of the fact, but you're not one
of them. You give me the impression that you're intelligent and
honest by nature, so it's significant that you accept dishonesty
and limit your own thinking in regards to this satanic business.
Whether you can understand why or not, it's evidence that
the beast could exist. So is smoking, and child/spouse abuse.
When people do things that does them harm, and they would
really "like" to stop but don't, it is evidence of influence from
an outside source...at least it is to me. Your acceptance of
dishonesty and limitted thinking in regards to satanism is
evidence that he is having influence on you, and of course it
is the very type of influence he would have if he does indeed
exist. Out of consideration for your own self you should always
keep that aspect of things in mind. It's likely you've been trying
to repress thoughts like that, but it would be in your own best
interest to face them so if he does exist he's less successful
at using your own mind against you.
the 2nd coming of christ
> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>waste of time?
when it makes the person a better human
dh
>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:43:43 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>>waste of time?
>
>when it makes the person a better human
I've never known any examples of that happening. How do you
think lying and throwing curses makes people "better"?
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:9ndig3d8olivjakbn...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:22:30 -0400, "Tani JantsangŠ" <tjs...@spampost.com>
Is that a trick question? That's not what I said to the kid, by the way.
You do that a lot, hey? You misquote people, change the meanings of what
they said. Getting himself in trouble in school would be a waste of his
time - is what I said. Is your understanding of English poor? I think it
is.
Kindly go telemarketing elsewhere.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:au1og39reknsflt6n...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:12:25 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
> of christ) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:42:48 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:46 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd
>>>coming of christ) wrote:
>>>
>>>>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>>>>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
>>>
>>> Yeah, some people do want to avoid a beast who wants
>>>to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
>>>...do you have any idea why?
>>
>>and they're referred to as christo or islamo-fascists
>>
>>>
>>>>maybe
>>>>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>>>>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>>>>rituals and what not,
>>>
>>> How very satanic...first trick them into becoming part of a
>>>group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
>>>and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
>>>begin to slimily sneak in tiny fragments of the truth. No doubt
>>>the beast would approve highly, as he laughs at and ridicules
>>>the bunch of you/them.
>>>
>>
>>it's just using tact.
>
> It's more than that and I know you know it.
No, that's just about what it is . I said it before.
1. Set up or stage some significant thing that fools stupider people in the
tribe. Predict the weather right a lot of times, or something like that,
maybe some slight of hand - whatever. Then get them to believe that some
invisible being gives you dictates for all - and make sure you have some
clout with you, personal followers or whatever. After you have bent the
entire tribe to your whims, you tell them that:
If you do abcde, you will go to heaven with said invisible being.
If you do not abcde, you will go to this other place, with this other
invisible being - the enemy of the first invisible being.
Later on: if you do NOT do fghij, you will also go to that other bad place.
Bingo: organized religion. Next, get the tribe's members to PAY you for
special blessings and all that rot. That's organized religion. That's ALL
organized religion.
There may be
> people who wouldn't be aware of the fact, but you're not one
> of them.
Flattery of 2nd will get you nowhere....
You give me the impression that you're intelligent and
> honest by nature, so it's significant that you accept dishonesty
> and limit your own thinking in regards to this satanic business.
What LaVey did is NO different from what other religions have done. They
just did it on a MUCH bigger scale. Consider - the Pope is rich. LaVey
died a pauper, bankrupt, broke - heh, in a Catholic Hospital.
> Whether you can understand why or not, it's evidence that
> the beast could exist. So is smoking, and child/spouse abuse.
> When people do things that does them harm, and they would
> really "like" to stop but don't, it is evidence of influence from
> an outside source...at least it is to me.
You are insane. That convinces me. SMOKING? Lmao You also believe
propaganda. In the Bible, spare the rod, spoil the child - beating a child
with a rod is permitted. In the Bible, a lotof shitty stuff was also done
to women by patriachal old men in sack cloths. And you think people that
break the law and do violent things and such, are NOT acting of their own
accord? Lemme inform you then: low IQ and high testosterone - you willl be
guaranteed to get HIGH CRIME levels. No invisible beings need be present.
Your acceptance of
> dishonesty and limitted thinking in regards to satanism is
> evidence that he is having influence on you, and of course it
> is the very type of influence he would have if he does indeed
> exist.
There you go again, twisting 2nd's words. Everyone with any shread of
common sense EXPECTS dishonesty with organized religion scams, or with
politics, or with telemarketers. Buyer beware. Be careful what you put
your money in.
Out of consideration for your own self you should always
> keep that aspect of things in mind. It's likely you've been trying
> to repress thoughts like that, but it would be in your own best
> interest to face them so if he does exist he's less successful
> at using your own mind against you.
Oh brother. You are insane. I'll tell you something that "happened" to
people in the USA that was so invisible, so cunning and diabolitcal that one
might call that a spiritual war and be convincing: what the Frankfurt
School did in the USA in the 60s, that cultural revolution against all
things European here. Ooops, that wasn't a supernatural being. That was
ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE, organized and acting like a collective, taking over
the media, psych industry and educational industry. That's WHO did it. And
I know WHY they did it, too. No inivisible beasties need be conjured up by
the deranged or those with less smarts.
the 2nd coming of christ
who said that...
the 2nd coming of christ
<tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:9ndig3d8olivjakbn...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:22:30 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
maybe he's one of those kids who LIKES getting in trouble. in that
case it would be a wise investment of time and effort...
dh
>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:38:04 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:48:41 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:43:43 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>>>>waste of time?
>>>
>>>when it makes the person a better human
>>
>> I've never known any examples of that happening. How do you
>>think lying and throwing curses makes people "better"?
>
>who said that...
Howard lied about many things, and about the last 1/3 of the book
was devoted to rituals and throwing curses.
dh
That was a blatant lie.
>that's just about what it is . I said it before.
>
>1. Set up or stage some significant thing that fools stupider people in the
>tribe.
There's the proof that you know it was a lie. You lied to me,
and now I feel sure you'll want to insult me for pointing it out.
dh
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:9ndig3d8olivjakbn...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:22:30 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>There are almost no satanists that believe in a literal Satan. None of
>>>the
>>>organizations believe in such a being because that's just Christian
>>>inversionism. Not any of the satanic organizations have a conception of
>>>satan, by whatever name they call it, as something evil at all. Far from
>>>it. Most of them see the reality - that Christianity and the deeds done
>>>due
>>>to Christianity ARE TRULY evil. They aren't duped. Or at least they
>>>aren't
>>>duped as far as their rhetoric goes.
>>>
>>>If you do this for your school project - you might not get the A grade you
>>>seek. You might get yourself investigated and a whole bunch of other
>>>negative shit that --- really would be a pain in your butt and a waste of
>>>your time.
>>
>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>> waste of time?
>
>Is that a trick question?
No. If you can't answer it then you just can't, but there's no trick
to it.
>That's not what I said to the kid, by the way.
>You do that a lot, hey? You misquote people, change the meanings of what
>they said.
I challenged you to try explaining yourself, and you changed the
subject because you couldn't do it. Here's another chance for you
to try doing it:
How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
waste of time?
>Getting himself in trouble in school would be a waste of his
>time - is what I said.
Just try answering the question instead of making up excuses
not to. So far it appears that you're ashamed of the answer.
the 2nd coming of christ
that's interesting but i don't see what it has to do with me...
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:c25tg35cafpf32b6u...@4ax.com...
No, you MISREAD what I said to the kid - that writing a report, getting into
trouble, maybe getting investigated, would be a WASTE OF TIME and would be
TROUBLE. Learn to fucking read.
>
> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
> waste of time?
I think it's a TOTAL waste of time. I think talking about "religion" is a
TOTAL waste of time TOO. You might think talking about Stargate SG1 is a
total waste of time. Whatever rocks your boat - does not necessarily rock
anyone's boat. You know "come on, it will be fun" can also be "come on, it
will NOT be fun."
Go away. At this point, GO AWAY. I do not like you. I regard you as an
evil person - 100 times worse than Anton LaVey could ever be.
the 2nd coming of christ
> There's the proof that you know it was a lie. You lied to me,
you lie to yourself...
dh
>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:23:23 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>> There's the proof that you know it was a lie. You lied to me,
>
>you lie to yourself...
About what? Provide examples or it will be strong evidence
that you're lying to and about me.
dh
>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:22:12 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:04:42 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:38:04 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:48:41 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:43:43 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>>>>>>waste of time?
>>>>>
>>>>>when it makes the person a better human
>>>>
>>>> I've never known any examples of that happening. How do you
>>>>think lying and throwing curses makes people "better"?
>>>
>>>who said that...
>>
>> Howard lied about many things, and about the last 1/3 of the book
>>was devoted to rituals and throwing curses.
>
>that's interesting but i don't see what it has to do with me...
It has to do with "satanism", regardless of what it does or does
not have to do with you.
dh
Yes.
>you MISREAD what I said to the kid - that writing a report, getting into
>trouble, maybe getting investigated, would be a WASTE OF TIME and would be
>TROUBLE.
Then not expecting it to be such a horrible challenge for you,
I asked you: "How do you think any form of satanism could be
any more than a waste of time?"
>Learn to fucking read.
>>
>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more than a
>> waste of time?
>
>I think it's a TOTAL waste of time.
Finally! That wasn't really so damn hard after all, was it?
>I think talking about "religion" is a
>TOTAL waste of time TOO.
You talk about the debrise from the big bang which you
mistakenly insist on referring to as a "ray", which you said
is a religious belief. Do you now want to change that and
say it's not religious?
>You might think talking about Stargate SG1 is a
>total waste of time.
It depends on what you talk about regarding it.
>Whatever rocks your boat - does not necessarily rock
>anyone's boat.
Waves rock mine and all the others on this side of the
dock. Often it doesn't rock the ones on the other side
nearly as much because they are somewhat protected by
the ones on this side. I don't move to the other more protected
side because it's significantly closer to get my kayak out when
I leave from this side, because this side has a better view, and
because being an inboard my boat wants to turn to the port
side when backing out. I've rigged an outrigger off the wave
side of the boat which I secure to the dock with a chain, and
that keep the top of the boat from rocking back and forth so
much...making it slide from side to side instead which is much
less annoying.
>You know "come on, it will be fun" can also be "come on, it
>will NOT be fun."
>
>Go away. At this point, GO AWAY. I do not like you. I regard you as an
>evil person - 100 times worse than Anton LaVey could ever be.
That means you consider the truth to be more evil than lies,
since all I've done is point out facts that you just happen to
dislike.
the 2nd coming of christ
well, to you almost anything is a lie...
the 2nd coming of christ
that's a good approach that will probably get him a good grade if
he should pursue it. i also recommend he follow it and play to
'the masses' rather than the 'elect' or whatever elitist notion...
the 2nd coming of christ
about 'the beast' for one... creating this 'boogeyman' out there
that keeps you in check and otherwise tempts you with lies and
makes you cast spells of lust and destruction on others and trying
to attribute what howard said to involve me in it somehow...
the 2nd coming of christ
well, i don't care to defend 'howard' or the CoS. i'm not involved
with them in any way.
the 2nd coming of christ
>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:02:13 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>you MISREAD what I said to the kid - that writing a report, getting into
>>trouble, maybe getting investigated, would be a WASTE OF TIME and would be
>>TROUBLE.
>
> Then not expecting it to be such a horrible challenge for you,
>I asked you: "How do you think any form of satanism could be
>any more than a waste of time?"
because not too many people are going to be in this situation that
this kid is in...picking a controversial topic for a school report
or what not, so not everybody is going to have the questions arise
that this kid has about getting in trouble and about wasting time.
you act like because it's a waste of time for this kid that
therefore it must be a waste of time for everybody... that's quite
a leap in logic...
the only thing i have said so far is that if you get every goth
together, the majority will be receptive to satanic thinking. not
that they will all like to refer to it as 'satanism' but they will
show some interest in some occult type activity... guaranteed.
dh
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:53:18 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:11:35 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:23:23 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's the proof that you know it was a lie. You lied to me,
>>>
>>>you lie to yourself...
>>
>> About what? Provide examples or it will be strong evidence
>>that you're lying to and about me.
>
>about 'the beast' for one... creating this 'boogeyman' out there
>that keeps you in check and otherwise tempts you with lies and
>makes you cast spells of lust and destruction on others
I just consider the possibility, and Howard amusingly denied it.
>and trying
>to attribute what howard said to involve me in it somehow...
If you promote satanism, then you are promoting Howard's
lies etc whether you agree with them or not. Since your book
on the interpretation of satanism is not available and Howard's
is, you promote what is available when you encourage satanism
unless you specifically say that you disagree with Howard
whenever you promote it.
dh
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:54:48 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:02:13 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>>>you MISREAD what I said to the kid - that writing a report, getting into
>>>trouble, maybe getting investigated, would be a WASTE OF TIME and would be
>>>TROUBLE.
>>
>> Then not expecting it to be such a horrible challenge for you,
>>I asked you: "How do you think any form of satanism could be
>>any more than a waste of time?"
>
>because not too many people are going to be in this situation that
>this kid is in...picking a controversial topic for a school report
>or what not, so not everybody is going to have the questions arise
>that this kid has about getting in trouble and about wasting time.
>
>you act like because it's a waste of time for this kid that
>therefore it must be a waste of time for everybody... that's quite
>a leap in logic...
How do you think any form of satanism could be any more
than a waste of time?
>the only thing i have said so far is that if you get every goth
>together, the majority will be receptive to satanic thinking. not
>that they will all like to refer to it as 'satanism' but they will
>show some interest in some occult type activity... guaranteed.
Why do you encourage that? What sort of occult activities
do you think are good for kids to engage in, and what do you
think they're good for? How do you support the idea that
occult activities are of some value, while at the same time
insisting that a creator and the beast do not exist?
the 2nd coming of christ
>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:06:21 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>you act like because it's a waste of time for this kid that
>>therefore it must be a waste of time for everybody... that's quite
>>a leap in logic...
>
> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more
>than a waste of time?
many ways. as i stated previously, if it turns the person into a
better human so to speak, then it's not a waste of time... that's
but one example. chances of becoming a worse human than a better
one are very small in Satanism, because it encourages
responsibility and order not chaos and leaving it all up to the
'creator' to fix. when a person starts becoming responsible that's
when he/she starts becoming a better human, so what does it matter
which particular philosophy it was that improved him/her? i don't
care if they study confucianism or islam. if it makes them better
people on the whole, i see no reason to object. i'm not asking for
perfection, just to be improving constantly. No one ever reaches
perfection... And i don't say: ONLY study satanism. I say study
everything INCLUDING satanism... Most people exclude it by
default, probably due to christoid-style propaganda about a guy
wearing a red suit with horns and a pitchfork...up to no good.
>
>>the only thing i have said so far is that if you get every goth
>>together, the majority will be receptive to satanic thinking. not
>>that they will all like to refer to it as 'satanism' but they will
>>show some interest in some occult type activity... guaranteed.
>
> Why do you encourage that? What sort of occult activities
>do you think are good for kids to engage in, and what do you
>think they're good for? How do you support the idea that
>occult activities are of some value, while at the same time
>insisting that a creator and the beast do not exist?
your mythical symbols are simply imaginary creations that attempt
to explain some spiritual phenomena in human terms since in
reality all that 'god' stuff is beyond the realm of language or
human symbols... there is no way to talk about it intelligibly
other than by having little human stories and tales that
illustrate the idea which is being communicated. Insofar as those
tales possibly containing valid moral lessons and what not, then
that's another matter. it is very likely that they do contain
valid teachings and they do portray spiritual truth in symbolic
language. But trying to say that they actually occurred and have a
history timeline and everything for the garden of eden and the
parting of the red sea and what not, that's just ignorance.
dh
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:45:45 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:06:21 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming of christ) wrote:
>>>you act like because it's a waste of time for this kid that
>>>therefore it must be a waste of time for everybody... that's quite
>>>a leap in logic...
>>
>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more
>>than a waste of time?
>
>many ways. as i stated previously, if it turns the person into a
>better human so to speak, then it's not a waste of time... that's
>but one example. chances of becoming a worse human than a better
>one are very small in Satanism, because it encourages
>responsibility and order not chaos and leaving it all up to the
>'creator' to fix. when a person starts becoming responsible that's
>when he/she starts becoming a better human, so what does it matter
>which particular philosophy it was that improved him/her?
You're the one who talks badly about Christianity, even though
it encourages all of what you just said is good without throwing
any curses at people.
>i don't
>care if they study confucianism or islam. if it makes them better
>people on the whole, i see no reason to object. i'm not asking for
>perfection, just to be improving constantly. No one ever reaches
>perfection... And i don't say: ONLY study satanism. I say study
>everything INCLUDING satanism... Most people exclude it by
>default, probably due to christoid-style propaganda
I exclude it because of reading the book and figuring out
that Howard was lying as I read it, because what he claimed
to believe and encouraged other people to believe disagreed
with themselves. Also because he encouraged people to be
selfish to the extent of not caring in the least about other
people, and to the extent of throwing curses at them with the
hopes that they would die, and encouraging people to feel
no remorse for doing so. Later those feelings were amplified
when I found out how much more Howard had lied about
than what I figured out on my own from reading his book.
>about a guy
>wearing a red suit with horns and a pitchfork...up to no good.
If satan does exist, Howard's book is as clear proof that he
is a liar and wants the worst for people as you could ask for.
Whether he wears anything at all or has horns or a pitchfork
doesn't have anything at all to do with any of it. Like the
creator, if "he" exists at all I seriously doubt he would be
restricted to any particular form or gender, much less restricted
to what kind of "suit" he wears or to what types of tools he
uses. I suppose you'll find this insulting, but your impression of
what he would be like if he does exist still seems *extremely!!!*
childlike to me.
>>>the only thing i have said so far is that if you get every goth
>>>together, the majority will be receptive to satanic thinking. not
>>>that they will all like to refer to it as 'satanism' but they will
>>>show some interest in some occult type activity... guaranteed.
>>
>> Why do you encourage that? What sort of occult activities
>>do you think are good for kids to engage in, and what do you
>>think they're good for? How do you support the idea that
>>occult activities are of some value, while at the same time
>>insisting that a creator and the beast do not exist?
>
>your mythical symbols
Which mythical symbols are you accusing of being mine,
and how do you support your claim that they are?
>are simply imaginary creations that attempt
>to explain some spiritual phenomena in human terms since in
>reality all that 'god' stuff is beyond the realm of language or
>human symbols... there is no way to talk about it intelligibly
>other than by having little human stories and tales that
>illustrate the idea which is being communicated. Insofar as those
>tales possibly containing valid moral lessons and what not, then
>that's another matter. it is very likely that they do contain
>valid teachings and they do portray spiritual truth
Explain the truth about spiritual things and how you know
what that truth is. Which spirits exist and which do not, why
are they possible but a creator and the beast are not, and
how do you know?
What sort of occult activities do you think are good for
kids to engage in, and what do you think they're good for?
How do you support the idea that occult activities are of
some value, while at the same time insisting that a creator
and the beast do not exist?
>in symbolic
>language. But trying to say that they actually occurred and have a
>history timeline and everything for the garden of eden and the
>parting of the red sea and what not, that's just ignorance.
So far you've shown that you're not open minded enough
to have a realistic opinion about any of that.
the 2nd coming of christ
> You're the one who talks badly about Christianity, even though
>it encourages all of what you just said is good without throwing
>any curses at people.
obviously i don't see christianity as authentic or as creating
these superior humans you claim... is bush an example?
>>> Why do you encourage that? What sort of occult activities
>>>do you think are good for kids to engage in, and what do you
>>>think they're good for? How do you support the idea that
>>>occult activities are of some value, while at the same time
>>>insisting that a creator and the beast do not exist?
well, i mean all religion deals in the occult, including
christianity. just some are more authentic than others, and i
would rate christianity as one of the least authentic and one that
totally misses the point of all religion and mythology and turns
it into actual historical events. it's the most ignorant religion.
>>> Explain the truth about spiritual things and how you know
>what that truth is. Which spirits exist and which do not, why
>are they possible but a creator and the beast are not, and
>how do you know?
one quick way to figure out spiritual truth is just find out
something a christian says, and simply flip it upside down and now
you've got truth... in other words: the opposite.
> So far you've shown that you're not open minded enough
>to have a realistic opinion about any of that.
the way you interpret things via gooberification, that's probably
a compliment...
dh
>On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:09:16 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>> You're the one who talks badly about Christianity, even though
>>it encourages all of what you just said is good without throwing
>>any curses at people.
>
>obviously i don't see christianity as authentic or as creating
>these superior humans you claim... is bush an example?
Some examples are all of the human aid organizations
that are run by Christians. Do you know of any human aid
organizations run by satanists?
>>>> Why do you encourage that? What sort of occult activities
>>>>do you think are good for kids to engage in, and what do you
>>>>think they're good for? How do you support the idea that
>>>>occult activities are of some value, while at the same time
>>>>insisting that a creator and the beast do not exist?
>
>well, i mean all religion deals in the occult, including
>christianity. just some are more authentic than others, and i
>would rate christianity as one of the least authentic and one that
>totally misses the point of all religion
Religions in favor of the creator are designed to produce
a favorable relationship between the individual and the creator,
and Christianity certainly does that as well or better than any
of the others.
>and mythology and turns
>it into actual historical events. it's the most ignorant religion.
>
>>>> Explain the truth about spiritual things and how you know
>>what that truth is. Which spirits exist and which do not, why
>>are they possible but a creator and the beast are not, and
>>how do you know?
>
>one quick way to figure out spiritual truth is just find out
>something a christian says, and simply flip it upside down
That might explain why you think the beast, which all
religions that refer to him except possibly some satanic ones
warn is the enemy of humans, is instead somehow your
friend if he exists.
>and now
>you've got truth... in other words: the opposite.
You've made the claim, so now try backing it up. If the
beast does exist what makes you think he is your friend
and the creator is your enemy, do you have any idea?
the 2nd coming of christ
>>and now
>>you've got truth... in other words: the opposite.
>
> You've made the claim, so now try backing it up. If the
>beast does exist what makes you think he is your friend
>and the creator is your enemy, do you have any idea?
premise: you are a christian. premise: christians say the opposite
of the truth. premise: you say the creator is good and the beast
bad. conclusion: the creator is the one who's bad and the beast
the one that's good.
all i have to do is look at what you say, negate it, and i have
thee Truth TM. how simple can it get...
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:ujq9h3hdb8ifkqo7h...@4ax.com...
2nd is a member of Satanic Reds Social Realists. SR is definitely NOT
LaVeyan. Religion is not a requirement to join the SR at all. POLITICS is.
It might be hard for you to believe, but many SR membes have no clue who
"howard" is - and I mean, they don't know exactly who LaVey is, nor do they
care about that. 2nd has made it clear on here that he believes CATHOLICS
to be the true Christians. Protestants are NOT, they are EVIL.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:vsl4h3h8peq1frbit...@4ax.com...
Since it's about the 100th time I said as much, yes, it's a waste of time.
>
>>I think talking about "religion" is a
>>TOTAL waste of time TOO.
>
> You talk about the debrise from the big bang which you
> mistakenly insist on referring to as a "ray", which you said
> is a religious belief. Do you now want to change that and
> say it's not religious?
Religion is one thing. Science is another thing. The two are not related,
can not be related. I talked about the LOGOS, you freaking ninny - which WE
in my culture, in English, tend to call a Ray. Vajra or Dorje. YOU didn't
recognize it. That is all I need to know. You lack it - that is why you
didn't recognize it.
You are obsessed with "the beast" because you ARE OF that beast. You are
Ophionic.
>
>>You might think talking about Stargate SG1 is a
>>total waste of time.
>
> It depends on what you talk about regarding it.
>
>>Whatever rocks your boat - does not necessarily rock
>>anyone's boat.
>
> Waves rock mine and all the others on this side of the
> dock. Often it doesn't rock the ones on the other side
> nearly as much because they are somewhat protected by
> the ones on this side. I don't move to the other more protected
> side because it's significantly closer to get my kayak out when
> I leave from this side, because this side has a better view, and
> because being an inboard my boat wants to turn to the port
> side when backing out. I've rigged an outrigger off the wave
> side of the boat which I secure to the dock with a chain, and
> that keep the top of the boat from rocking back and forth so
> much...making it slide from side to side instead which is much
> less annoying.
>
>>You know "come on, it will be fun" can also be "come on, it
>>will NOT be fun."
>>
>>Go away. At this point, GO AWAY. I do not like you. I regard you as an
>>evil person - 100 times worse than Anton LaVey could ever be.
>
> That means you consider the truth to be more evil than lies,
> since all I've done is point out facts that you just happen to
> dislike.
You pointed out nothing, dh. You made it clear to me that you are OPHIONIC
to the max - and that makes you EVIL in your own terms. You obsess. That
makes you psychotic. You twists words and are unable to read things
correctly. That makes you stupid. You have no RAY (aka: flame, logos,
vajra, dorje) in you. That is MY bottom line.
>
>>>>Getting himself in trouble in school would be a waste of his
>>>>time - is what I said.
>>>
>>> Just try answering the question instead of making up excuses
>>> not to. So far it appears that you're ashamed of the answer.
You are obsessed with shame - and that would be because you are Ophionic.
www.apodion.com/vad - suggest you read about yourself under the heading
"Klippoth."
>>
Tani Jantsang©
"the 2nd coming of christ" <jesuc...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:47151643....@news.sysmatrix.net...
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:45:45 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:06:21 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
>>of christ) wrote:
>>>you act like because it's a waste of time for this kid that
>>>therefore it must be a waste of time for everybody... that's quite
>>>a leap in logic...
>>
>> How do you think any form of satanism could be any more
>>than a waste of time?
>
> many ways. as i stated previously, if it turns the person into a
> better human so to speak, then it's not a waste of time... that's
> but one example. chances of becoming a worse human than a better
> one are very small in Satanism, because it encourages
> responsibility and order not chaos and leaving it all up to the
> 'creator' to fix. when a person starts becoming responsible that's
> when he/she starts becoming a better human, so what does it matter
> which particular philosophy it was that improved him/her? i don't
> care if they study confucianism or islam. if it makes them better
> people on the whole, i see no reason to object. i'm not asking for
> perfection, just to be improving constantly. No one ever reaches
> perfection... And i don't say: ONLY study satanism. I say study
> everything INCLUDING satanism... Most people exclude it by
> default, probably due to christoid-style propaganda about a guy
> wearing a red suit with horns and a pitchfork...up to no good.
>
If kids were raised from the get go to have responsibilities, do chores,
even earn money at small jobs when they are off school - they would BE
responsible. If they'd learn a trade - that would be a job that wouldn't be
outsourced. That would be good. Studying the "religions of the world" is
only good for a degree in theology - or for someone with a LOT of time on
their hands. That's my 2 cents on that.
Dh has not yet realized that 99% of the satanic organizations out there are
people that only see this "devil" creature as an archetype of the "rebel
against tyranny." That holds for Milton and Bucharin. My take on that is
made clear on the SR website. If you are going to rebel, JOIN an already
existing huge organization out there that is already POLITICALLY savvy about
things and has clout. Rebellion against tyranny is political. It's not
religious. I personally don't quite understand WHY anyone would join any
Satanic Organization out there - except maybe the Temple of Set, which is
about SET and mysticism and Egypt. It's not about Satan at all.
Then again, perhaps Dh knows this, or sort of knows this, but in his
Ophionic state of being, he is incapable of meshing it into a coherant
idea - and instead trolls usenet like a telemarketer, posting THOUSANDS of
bullshit rambles to someone named Goo.
Right now, the tyranny of the West is "politically correctness" which aims
to MURDER the West and all its people. Even the famous Watson
(co-discoverer of DNA) couldn't say the truth and what he knew, without the
heap of yayas jumping down his throat as if he spoke a heresy. Same
dynamic - like heresy. Watson spoke the TRUTH.
You see, dh has "defined "satanism, even though the many organizations out
there define it in their own way! HE has defined it based on Christian
bullshit and LaVeyan bullshit. Then he insists that anyone that dialogues
with his monologues, abide by the same definitions. That's rather
psychotic.
He doesn't quite grasp that Carducci and Michelet DEFINED Satanism hundreds
of years before LaVey ever did - and LaVey never even HEARD of these people.
He doesn't quite grasp that he is trying to monologue about LaVey with
people who are ANTI LaVey to say the most, or not caring of anything LaVey
said, to say the least. By doing that, he's just being stupid.
Bottom line - he doesn't RECOGNIZE the logos. In person, when I see no
flame in a person, I walk away from them and want NOTHING to do with them.
People like that are obsessed with evil - because they ARE evil.
First there was the boundless darkness. Then a ray flashed out. He doesn't
understand that. A Jesuit Priest realized right away that "THAT which said
'Let there be LIGHT' could not have ITSELF been light. BINGO!!! And he
FELT the presence of God. FELT it.
Morena, who is (was?) an atheist - said she got CHILLS when she read that,
in 105 degree weather. It strongly had an effect on her. It fell flat on
Dh. I'm not surprised.
He's not even involved in a flame war with this Goo person (or is he? I
delete it all when I see threads). I mean, Goo is not libeling Dh's family
or anything like that, right? But on he goes, on and on and on like
energizer bunny.
YO, Phil got stuck working - ergo, I'm here (Duh, my DUH statement of the
month, I'm here, I'm making a post, DUH). Ever hear of that EZup or Quick
Shade thing? It's a canopy. Well, it's NOT easy up at all - it's heavy and
quite hard to get up and almost impossible to get up in the sand. Well, heh
heh - I got a TANI Idea (also called, my various handy men that know me,
Tani did another McGiver... - tho my ideas predate that show). I made a
canopy! And it IS easy to get up in sand. Wind can't blow it down - oh,
it's GREAT. I should patent the idea. How do I go about doing that?
Speaking of kids. I know a teacher that is giving her 8th grade advanced
students 3rd grade spelling words on spelling tests because they can't
spell. Like - what the fuck evil sabotage happened that these kids can't
spell. OH, right, "equal resuilts must be gotten" happened, standards got
lowered. That. CRIMES against European American kids. YOU, btw, are
European, in case you are wondering about my classifications. I'm not. But
YOU ARE. You are Mexican. That's Spanish, European language, European
religion.
Anyway, at least this kid seems to be able to spell correctly - IF IT IS a
kid at all. Sounds more to me like an adult pretending to be a kid with a
"school project." Heh. Ya never know.
Now, if Chrsitians got together and declared that "politically correctness"
was of the BEAST - heh, well then, maybe I'd join in with that! :) Right
now, the evangies don't even have a candidate they like - but then, wait,
they liked GW before (what SUCKERS they were). I can't fathom why they did
not vote for Buchanan in 2000 - he would have been their candidate - and
mine too on labor issues. But wait. Did I say vote? The vote no longer
means anything since the little card that tallies the electronic votes had
an EXECUTABLE PROGRAM in it. Ha ha. No vote. It's a sham. All rigged.
So, heh, who are ya gonna vote for? :-D
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:f1afh3lasvqg3coih...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:19:11 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
> of christ) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:09:16 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>> You're the one who talks badly about Christianity, even though
>>>it encourages all of what you just said is good without throwing
>>>any curses at people.
>>
>>obviously i don't see christianity as authentic or as creating
>>these superior humans you claim... is bush an example?
>
> Some examples are all of the human aid organizations
> that are run by Christians. Do you know of any human aid
> organizations run by satanists?
2nd: Let's put some history on that. That ONLY happened recently - and in
the USA at first. In the past, Christians and Kings went hand in hand and
they didn't give a SHIT about the serfs (working class). It was people like
Bertrand Russell and other HARSH critics of Chrsitianity, people during the
Enlightment who won that FORCED Christianity to be more PRO HUMAN. In the
past, Christianity was vehemently ANTI human and ANTI flesh. Lamaism never
had religious wars and has always been pro human. And the Tatar Lamas
WORKED alongside the people. It is also a fact that during the first part
of the Enlightenment, the Inquisition was at full swing.
>>well, i mean all religion deals in the occult, including
>>christianity. just some are more authentic than others, and i
>>would rate christianity as one of the least authentic and one that
>>totally misses the point of all religion
>
> Religions in favor of the creator are designed to produce
> a favorable relationship between the individual and the creator,
> and Christianity certainly does that as well or better than any
> of the others.
Actually, it doesn't as one person with two degrees in Christian theology
has pointed out. Christianity posits a Big Brother in the sky - an
everpresent GESTAPO that's ....WATCHING you. It's suffocating in practice
for most people stuck in it. That's why most, 99%, Satanists are all EX
CHRISTIANS.
>
>>and mythology and turns
>>it into actual historical events. it's the most ignorant religion.
>>
>>>>> Explain the truth about spiritual things and how you know
>>>what that truth is. Which spirits exist and which do not, why
>>>are they possible but a creator and the beast are not, and
>>>how do you know?
>>
>>one quick way to figure out spiritual truth is just find out
>>something a christian says, and simply flip it upside down
>
> That might explain why you think the beast, which all
> religions that refer to him except possibly some satanic ones
> warn is the enemy of humans, is instead somehow your
> friend if he exists.
2nd, no matter how many times you tell this moron that you don't believe in
a beast, he's gonna insist you do. He's fucking NUTS.
>
>>and now
>>you've got truth... in other words: the opposite.
>
> You've made the claim, so now try backing it up. If the
> beast does exist what makes you think he is your friend
> and the creator is your enemy, do you have any idea?
2nd, he's putting words in your mouth AGAIN. Lemme take this one:
1. Thou shalt not steal. Good for the serfs who got executed for being
starving and stealing an apple off some huge estate owned by a Baron or
Count or nobleman. Meanwhile, the Vatican stole the riches for itself.
Tithing is just a form of moral blackmail.
2. Thou shalt not kill: Inquisition. Crusades. Holy Wars.
Just to name a few.
JEWISH 3. Thou shalt not worship idols. ALL images of God are idols. That
Christian invent "children of god" is idolotry in the original true meaning
of the commandment, which was given to the JEWS. NOT to the Gentiles.
>
flower of romance
> you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
> and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
I know a lot of goths that scare people away, especially when they smile.
:)
>maybe
> later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
> meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
> rituals and what not, but you would all need to vote on it, so
> people don't feel like you're a king dictating all the rules and
> what not... make it democratic... and also let the members bring
> up their own suggestions of things you might not even think of...
>
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:34:08 -0000, dustin.s...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>so...heres the deal:
>>i have to do a senior project to graduate high school. if i dont do
>>this, i cant graduate. ive had trouble thinking of ideas for it, but
>>i think i finally got one. i want to start a sort of club for
>>satanists and those interested in satanism. the first few meetings, i
>>would educate people who a re just interested on the theory and
>>practice of satanism. then we would read books and listen to music
>>that is considered 'evil', then discuss it. with the people who end
>>up staying, they will help me with my rituals. i think its a grande
>>idea. i also have another project idea to fall back on if this one
>>falls through (building a casket is the other idea).
>>
>>if this is a bad idea, please keep the ripping to a minimum. if this
>>is a good idea, feel free to tell me so.
>>
>>i didnt want to start this and find out that other satanists see this
>>as bullshit or a waste of time or something. that would take away so
>>much joy from doing this.
>>
>>oh. shit. i forgot....stay the hell off this thread, you xtian
>>lurking bastards. i already know your answer, so you dont have to
>>post. i did all the work for you. now you can atrophy into a pile of
>>flesh so satan can drag your limp carcass to the dark reaches of
>>hell. the best part is, youll be too weak to resist my dark lord.
>>
>>so thats there. im waiting on this. prompt replies are favorable.
>>
>>hasta
>>
>>
>>HAIL SATAN
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:ujdig3h97d1b86tgp...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:46 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd coming
> of christ) wrote:
>
>>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
>
> to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
> ...do you have any idea why?
>
>>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>>rituals and what not,
>
> group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
> and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
That's Christianity.
the 2nd coming of christ
<tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>Right now, the tyranny of the West is "politically correctness" which aims
>to MURDER the West and all its people.
That's neither here nor there. You're speaking of nebulous
concepts that only you and a writer named McDonald understands.
(since you took the time to read his thousands of pages long
encyclopedic three volume work--talk about having time on your
hands, but i digress). I've heard you go on and on for months
about this so called 'war on western civilization' and i'm yet to
even have a hint of a grasp on what the hell you're talking about.
that's my 2 cents on that...
> Even the famous Watson
>(co-discoverer of DNA) couldn't say the truth and what he knew, without the
>heap of yayas jumping down his throat as if he spoke a heresy. Same
>dynamic - like heresy. Watson spoke the TRUTH.
but i mean, that's been going for as long back as anyone can
remember. the truth has always been reviled and ridiculed in favor
of ignorance, superstition and the status quo... i still don't see
how that's just 'specific' to our day in age. it's a human
tendency to be afraid of change, which is the only real constant.
new information always leads to a change in the current paradigm
and that is a threat to the current powers that be and must always
be repressed... it's nothing new...
>
>You see, dh has "defined "satanism, even though the many organizations out
>there define it in their own way! HE has defined it based on Christian
>bullshit and LaVeyan bullshit. Then he insists that anyone that dialogues
>with his monologues, abide by the same definitions. That's rather
>psychotic.
>
>He doesn't quite grasp that Carducci and Michelet DEFINED Satanism hundreds
>of years before LaVey ever did - and LaVey never even HEARD of these people.
>He doesn't quite grasp that he is trying to monologue about LaVey with
>people who are ANTI LaVey to say the most, or not caring of anything LaVey
>said, to say the least. By doing that, he's just being stupid.
yeah, he definitely has some issues... as i explained before,
gooberification is a drug that he is hooked on... that is the need
to engage in back and forth bickering with Thee GOO, but once he
runs out of 'goo' posts to reply, he still has that craving for
more, so he goes after other posters in that same frame of mind
and the gooberification in his head can continue...
>He's not even involved in a flame war with this Goo person (or is he? I
>delete it all when I see threads). I mean, Goo is not libeling Dh's family
>or anything like that, right? But on he goes, on and on and on like
>energizer bunny.
drugs aren't the only thing people get addicted to. DH is addicted
to gooberification. that sensation of triumph over idiocy that he
gets every time he replies to goo, but it has spilled over into
his conversations with other posters. he will attempt to squeeze
every ounce of gooberification he can out of any post, regardless
of who the actual author is, or what his/hers actual thoughts or
words may be--he will simply reinterpret and twist them.
>
>YO, Phil got stuck working - ergo, I'm here (Duh, my DUH statement of the
>month, I'm here, I'm making a post, DUH). Ever hear of that EZup or Quick
>Shade thing? It's a canopy. Well, it's NOT easy up at all - it's heavy and
>quite hard to get up and almost impossible to get up in the sand. Well, heh
>heh - I got a TANI Idea (also called, my various handy men that know me,
>Tani did another McGiver... - tho my ideas predate that show). I made a
>canopy! And it IS easy to get up in sand. Wind can't blow it down - oh,
>it's GREAT. I should patent the idea. How do I go about doing that?
sorry. i haven't the slightest clue...
>So, heh, who are ya gonna vote for? :-D
>
>
if i was a citizen, i guess i might vote for Obama, because he's
said he's against the iraq war and pro-zionist, and that he would
go after terrorists in their REAL turf: Pakistan...
octinomos
dh
How sad. Did he send you any $$$?
>SR is definitely NOT
>LaVeyan. Religion is not a requirement to join the SR at all. POLITICS is.
>It might be hard for you to believe, but many SR membes have no clue who
>"howard" is - and I mean, they don't know exactly who LaVey is, nor do they
>care about that. 2nd has made it clear on here that he believes CATHOLICS
>to be the true Christians. Protestants are NOT, they are EVIL.
He has it half right. Christians are Christians. Some people find that
hard to believe, including a lot of Christians. If the beast exists, of course
that's the way he would want it. Try to think how much less satan friendly
the world would be if all of God's people supported each other instead of
fighting and accusing each other all the time...
dh
Now try to explain how:
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:heqph3d1qm1n1v51r...@4ax.com...
They lure you in with false promises and lies, pretend to be your friends,
find you weaknesses so they can claim to help you with them but all they are
interested in is giving your soul away to thier false god. That's
Chrisitianity all over. Satanism is nothing like that, thankfully.
dh
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:heqph3d1qm1n1v51r...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:20:24 GMT, "flower of romance" <luc...@mega.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><dh@.> wrote in message news:ujdig3h97d1b86tgp...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:43:46 GMT, jesuc...@netscape.net (the 2nd
>>>> coming
>>>> of christ) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>you might get more members if you make it look like a goth club
>>>>>and not mention satan... that will just scare people off...
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, some people do want to avoid a beast who wants
>>>> to trick them into an afterlife of eternal torment and suffering
>>>> ...do you have any idea why?
>>>>
>>>>>maybe
>>>>>later once you get some members and you progress, you could have a
>>>>>meeting and see how many would be interested in doing satanic
>>>>>rituals and what not,
>>>>
>>>> How very satanic...first trick them into becoming part of a
>>>> group with dishonesty, and then later after they have bonded
>>>> and naively learned to feel friendship and trust in that group
>>>
>>>
>>>That's Christianity.
>>
>> Now try to explain how:
>
>They lure you in with false promises and lies, pretend to be your friends,
>find you weaknesses so they can claim to help you with them
Now that you mention it, most human aid organizations which
help millions of people around the globe are Christian organizations,
from what I've seen of them. No one I've asked about it has ever
heard of any satanic human aid organizations. Do you think you
have? If so, name it/them so I can check it out further.
>but all they are
>interested in is giving your soul away to thier false god.
They encourage people to have a relationship with the creator.
If there is a god, what do you think he has done if you think he
is not the creator?
>That's
>Chrisitianity all over. Satanism is nothing like that, thankfully.
Howard Levey in his supposed satanic bible claims that there
is no god or satan, encouraging people to have faith in that
possibility. Why do you think that's better than encouraging people
to have faith in other possibilities, if that's the type of "satanism"
you're referring to?
If you're referring to real satanism where people are encouraged
to put their faith in satan rather than in the creator, why do you think
that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
the 2nd coming of christ
<luc...@mega.com> wrote:
that's so true...
i actually was advocating for a 'goth' group that would have
nothing to do with satanism at first, but only if the members
later wanted to do it, then they would have a vote...
i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:odcsh3pgojg2644bk...@4ax.com...
More like christians buy into them to make themselves more popular and to
try and push thier false god on the vulnerable.
> from what I've seen of them. No one I've asked about it has ever
> heard of any satanic human aid organizations. Do you think you
> have? If so, name it/them so I can check it out further.
Perhaps you can point out what this has to do with the thread so far.
Perhaps not
>
>>but all they are
>>interested in is giving your soul away to thier false god.
>
> They encourage people to have a relationship with the creator.
> If there is a god,
No. they force people through subtifuge to worship one particular god.
>what do you think he has done if you think he
> is not the creator?
He? Who's he?
>
>>That's
>>Chrisitianity all over. Satanism is nothing like that, thankfully.
>
> Howard Levey in his supposed satanic bible claims that there
> is no god or satan, encouraging people to have faith in that
> possibility. Why do you think that's better than encouraging people
> to have faith in other possibilities, if that's the type of "satanism"
> you're referring to?
Anton Levay does not encompass all Satanism. His books are interesting but
they are his points of view.
>
> If you're referring to real satanism where people are encouraged
> to put their faith in satan rather than in the creator,
That's not real satanism! You don't know what real satanism is.
>why do you think
> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
flower of romance
certain amount of suntifuge
IMO people should be given awareness of what Satanism is or more importantly
what it isn't then from day one given the chance to join, though I'm not
sure i'd invite any goths. ;)
>
> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
DH is a typical Christan. He sees what he wants to see; truth be damned.
Tani Jantsang©
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:17:24 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©"
> <tjs...@spampost.com> wrote:
>
>>Right now, the tyranny of the West is "politically correctness" which aims
>>to MURDER the West and all its people.
>
> That's neither here nor there. You're speaking of nebulous
> concepts that only you and a writer named McDonald understands.
OH, ho ho, no no no. A GREAT MANY people that know as much as I know and
much more know ALL about this. And MANY people know that political
correctness WILL BE the death of the west. Not just me. These people are
my age, many are older - and they definitely and absolutely KNOW the ins and
outs of all of this. It's not something obscure. Perhaps YOU never heard
it. OK. Heh, you don't seem to me like the type of person that reads LONG
stuff - or who is involved in the political machinery here. You are young,
2nd, and I think you have NO CLUE what it is to live in a country WITHOUT
political correct thought police and literally Orwellian machinations going
on. You are too young to know.
> (since you took the time to read his thousands of pages long
> encyclopedic three volume work--talk about having time on your
> hands, but i digress).
I read at the beach when it's way too cold to go in the water. I have a LOT
of time on my hands. But not for usenet and definitely not for bullshit
like gooberisms and dh and his schizophrenic illogic.
I've heard you go on and on for months
> about this so called 'war on western civilization' and i'm yet to
> even have a hint of a grasp on what the hell you're talking about.
> that's my 2 cents on that...
You are not that politically savvy. MOST PEOPLE know about this, heh. Half
the political books written are about this.
>
>> Even the famous Watson
>>(co-discoverer of DNA) couldn't say the truth and what he knew, without
>>the
>>heap of yayas jumping down his throat as if he spoke a heresy. Same
>>dynamic - like heresy. Watson spoke the TRUTH.
>
> but i mean, that's been going for as long back as anyone can
> remember. the truth has always been reviled and ridiculed in favor
> of ignorance, superstition and the status quo...
Yes - and it's time that this stopped.
i still don't see
> how that's just 'specific' to our day in age. it's a human
> tendency to be afraid of change, which is the only real constant.
> new information always leads to a change in the current paradigm
> and that is a threat to the current powers that be and must always
> be repressed... it's nothing new...
It needs to change. It might be a threat to the powers that be, but if they
don't acknowledge this truth, this time around, they and th eirs will NEVER
BE the powers that be again. They'll be EXCINCT.
>
>>
>>You see, dh has "defined "satanism, even though the many organizations out
>>there define it in their own way! HE has defined it based on Christian
>>bullshit and LaVeyan bullshit. Then he insists that anyone that dialogues
>>with his monologues, abide by the same definitions. That's rather
>>psychotic.
>>
>>He doesn't quite grasp that Carducci and Michelet DEFINED Satanism
>>hundreds
>>of years before LaVey ever did - and LaVey never even HEARD of these
>>people.
>>He doesn't quite grasp that he is trying to monologue about LaVey with
>>people who are ANTI LaVey to say the most, or not caring of anything LaVey
>>said, to say the least. By doing that, he's just being stupid.
>
> yeah, he definitely has some issues... as i explained before,
> gooberification is a drug that he is hooked on... that is the need
> to engage in back and forth bickering with Thee GOO, but once he
> runs out of 'goo' posts to reply, he still has that craving for
> more, so he goes after other posters in that same frame of mind
> and the gooberification in his head can continue...
He's a paranoid schizophrenic - and he even made his little veiled threats
(as if he HOPES it happens) because I, for one, refuse to agree with a
pompous lying idiot that's trying to pretend he's just this open minded
bloke that wants to get people to THINK (about what's in HIS head). He's a
liar. He's a stupid fundie, believes in that creator (just one, not plural
even IF his own bible says ELOHIM which is PLURAL) - and he believes in the
stupid, moronic beast - even if theological experts know that it referred to
NERO a long time ago. He's NUTS. He has delusions - and he makes his
little threats to try to hook others into HIS delusions, think about what's
in HIS head. OH, you better think about it, or else you are childish.
LMAO. He's a phony.
>
>>He's not even involved in a flame war with this Goo person (or is he? I
>>delete it all when I see threads). I mean, Goo is not libeling Dh's
>>family
>>or anything like that, right? But on he goes, on and on and on like
>>energizer bunny.
>
> drugs aren't the only thing people get addicted to. DH is addicted
> to gooberification. that sensation of triumph over idiocy that he
> gets every time he replies to goo, but it has spilled over into
> his conversations with other posters. he will attempt to squeeze
> every ounce of gooberification he can out of any post, regardless
> of who the actual author is, or what his/hers actual thoughts or
> words may be--he will simply reinterpret and twist them.
He always twists words and statements, doesn't quite grasp inferences or
subtle details, either. He does this in a schizophrenic manner, btw. He is
a person incapable of agreeing to DISagree.
>
>>
>>YO, Phil got stuck working - ergo, I'm here (Duh, my DUH statement of the
>>month, I'm here, I'm making a post, DUH). Ever hear of that EZup or Quick
>>Shade thing? It's a canopy. Well, it's NOT easy up at all - it's heavy
>>and
>>quite hard to get up and almost impossible to get up in the sand. Well,
>>heh
>>heh - I got a TANI Idea (also called, my various handy men that know me,
>>Tani did another McGiver... - tho my ideas predate that show). I made a
>>canopy! And it IS easy to get up in sand. Wind can't blow it down - oh,
>>it's GREAT. I should patent the idea. How do I go about doing that?
>
> sorry. i haven't the slightest clue...
>
>>So, heh, who are ya gonna vote for? :-D
>>
>>
>
> if i was a citizen, i guess i might vote for Obama, because he's
> said he's against the iraq war and pro-zionist, and that he would
> go after terrorists in their REAL turf: Pakistan...
You aren't a citizen? Obamma is NOT against the war. The Democrats are ALL
going to continue that stupid war. Obamma's father is a Moslem, by the way.
I might vote Romney. He MADE universal health in his state already - forget
about who's gonna do this or that. He DID it. I'd never vote for Obamma
for one damned good reason I can sum up in two words: 1. Rhodesia. 2.
Zimbabwe.
Tani Jantsang©
OH, that's the least of it. The Christian bastards lately are up to
seriously false shit. They PRETEND to be Rabbis, they PRETEND to be
"completed JEWS" and have lured Jews who had no clue what they were up to
into their churches. Of course, it doesn't take long for these Jews to
realize that something is seriously wrong there. These are Christian
zionists - trying to - pretty much - exterminate Jews using a NEW tactic -
or actually it's not new. It's old. Before they forced Jews to convert
with the sword. Now they do it with subterfuge and falsehoods. They also
want to try to tell Israel what to do. Happily, Israel is IGNORING them.
Also, one of these morons was on some TV show - it made big news. The talk
show host is Jewish. PHEW did he rip her a new smile after she spewed her
stupid shit. They NEVER give up. And they just NEVER realize what harm
they do.
>
> i actually was advocating for a 'goth' group that would have
> nothing to do with satanism at first, but only if the members
> later wanted to do it, then they would have a vote...
>
> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
Lots of Goths are not satanists at all. The kid wants to do something for
school. Well, imo, the whole idea is not such a good idea. It might even
get him into trouble in school. He could maybe do an essay on why some
white kids become Wiggers. HA - that would go over really well (AHEM AHEM).
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:l7qph3hq9e3l9g08q...@4ax.com...
Sure thing. Get your mom and sisters and all those female relations to have
their clitoruses cut off and have them cover themselves up from head to toe
all the time. Grow yourself a beard, don't forget that. Then all bow down
in one big Islamic shithole HELL of a world - and all agree that you are
God's people.
WHICH GOD, you fool? Mahakala? Sri Kala Chakra? Allah? Zeus? Thor?
Which one? Adonai? OH wait. WHICH GODDESS?
PUH leeze do not bother to answer. At this point, nothing you say means
shit. You are obsessed with Goo, obsessed with Anton LaVey and made a new
girlfriend in the form of the most PETTY, two faced, lying devil worshipping
BITCH on this newsgroup - one Kori - also called Xori by her former best
pals in the TOS. You are a Christian fundie trying to pose as something
else. Everying sees this, you know. You have been CALLED by a few at this
point.
dh
We see that you're reluctant to agree with the truth when
it conflicts with personal relationships. That feeling is likely to
grow until you have no problem being blatantly dishonest
toward me without ever giving it any thought at all.
>What you suggested does have a
>certain amount of suntifuge
>IMO people should be given awareness of what Satanism is or more importantly
>what it isn't then from day one given the chance to join, though I'm not
>sure i'd invite any goths. ;)
>
>>
>> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
>> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
>> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
>
>DH is a typical Christan. He sees what he wants to see; truth be damned.
I'm always interested in the truth. Try explaining what you think it is.
dh
- someone dishonestly referring to himself as the 2nd coming of christ
dh
I'll admit that I believe they abuse the situation sometimes, but they
still help millions of people and save millions of lives none the less.
When they try to abuse the situation I think it's more of a waste of their
own time than it is a harm to people they help.
>> from what I've seen of them. No one I've asked about it has ever
>> heard of any satanic human aid organizations. Do you think you
>> have? If so, name it/them so I can check it out further.
>
>Perhaps you can point out what this has to do with the thread so far.
>Perhaps not
If there are any satanic organizations that provide as much or more
human aid than Christian organizations, I want to hear about them.
Apparently you don't know of any either.
>>>but all they are
>>>interested in is giving your soul away to thier false god.
>>
>> They encourage people to have a relationship with the creator.
>> If there is a god,
>
>No. they force people through subtifuge to worship one particular god.
LOL. What a naive thought. They can't force anyone to do that.
What do you think is so bad about encouraging people to worship
the creator?
>>what do you think he has done if you think he
>> is not the creator?
>
>He? Who's he?
The one particular god you were bitching about above. Do you
really want me to believe you were too stupid to figure that out
for yourself? If not then what were you trying to do by asking such
a stupid question, do you know?
>>>That's
>>>Chrisitianity all over. Satanism is nothing like that, thankfully.
>>
>> Howard Levey in his supposed satanic bible claims that there
>> is no god or satan, encouraging people to have faith in that
>> possibility. Why do you think that's better than encouraging people
>> to have faith in other possibilities, if that's the type of "satanism"
>> you're referring to?
>
>Anton Levay does not encompass all Satanism. His books are interesting but
>they are his points of view.
What type(s) of satanism do you think are better, and how do you
think it/they are better?
>> If you're referring to real satanism where people are encouraged
>> to put their faith in satan rather than in the creator,
>
>That's not real satanism!
Sure it is. Even a pretend satanist should be able to understand
that fact.
>You don't know what real satanism is.
Then it's past time for you to try explaining what it is. Go:
>>why do you think
>> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
>
>The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
I don't have a true belief as to whether or not there is one or
more than one. How many do you think there are, and why?
dh
That wouldn't be the way to do it. The way to do it would be to let
them do what they want and us do what we want, until they declare
a holy war against us and send people over to commit terrorist acts.
After they do that, it's time to go to war with them of course. We didn't
get in the first attack as you suggested, but we got in some after they
attacked us a few times.
>WHICH GOD, you fool?
The creator, name people decide to call him by.
>Mahakala? Sri Kala Chakra? Allah? Zeus? Thor?
>Which one? Adonai? OH wait. WHICH GODDESS?
>
>PUH leeze do not bother to answer.
Too late.
>At this point, nothing you say means
>shit. You are obsessed with Goo, obsessed with Anton LaVey and made a new
>girlfriend in the form of the most PETTY, two faced, lying devil worshipping
>BITCH on this newsgroup - one Kori -
I haven't known her to lie yet. And if she worships the beast, then
I'm curious about why. Hopefully she can do better at explaining that
--unless you're lying about it of course--than you have at explaining
why anyone should find any value in thinking of your unintelligent
non-spiritual supposed dark force that's not dark supposed ray that's
not a ray, in a spiritual way. It's no more spiritual than a bag of popcorn.
dh
Like what?
>They also
>want to try to tell Israel what to do. Happily, Israel is IGNORING them.
>Also, one of these morons was on some TV show - it made big news. The talk
>show host is Jewish. PHEW did he rip her a new smile after she spewed her
>stupid shit. They NEVER give up. And they just NEVER realize what harm
>they do.
Like what?
>> i actually was advocating for a 'goth' group that would have
>> nothing to do with satanism at first, but only if the members
>> later wanted to do it, then they would have a vote...
>>
>> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
>> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
>> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
>
>Lots of Goths are not satanists at all. The kid wants to do something for
>school. Well, imo, the whole idea is not such a good idea. It might even
>get him into trouble in school. He could maybe do an essay on why some
>white kids become Wiggers. HA - that would go over really well (AHEM AHEM).
It would be more interesting if he tried to explain why atheists want
to refer to themselves as satanists, and why those same people think
it's a good thing that Howard told so many lies. Why do you think all
that is better than trying to have a relationship with the creator?
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:bj5vh3t63bedtjs2n...@4ax.com...
And they do it purely to get thier religion a good name. Satansim doesn't
attach it's name to good will charities but satanists work for good will
charities. No name, no credit, no packdrill
>
>>> from what I've seen of them. No one I've asked about it has ever
>>> heard of any satanic human aid organizations. Do you think you
>>> have? If so, name it/them so I can check it out further.
>>
>>Perhaps you can point out what this has to do with the thread so far.
>>Perhaps not
>
> If there are any satanic organizations that provide as much or more
> human aid than Christian organizations, I want to hear about them.
> Apparently you don't know of any either.
What Satanic organizations are you referring to?
>
>>>>but all they are
>>>>interested in is giving your soul away to thier false god.
>>>
>>> They encourage people to have a relationship with the creator.
>>> If there is a god,
>>
>>No. they force people through subtifuge to worship one particular god.
>
> LOL. What a naive thought. They can't force anyone to do that.
LOL. Now that's naive.
> What do you think is so bad about encouraging people to worship
> the creator?
The deception, the lies, the dogma, the threats, the blackmail, and that
you don't tell the people about the alternatives. Duh
>
>>>what do you think he has done if you think he
>>> is not the creator?
>>
>>He? Who's he?
>
> The one particular god you were bitching about above.
What's his name?
>Do you
> really want me to believe you were too stupid to figure that out
> for yourself?
Believe what you want? Believing me stupid doesn't make me stupid. I'm smart
enough to figure that out. Are you?
>If not then what were you trying to do by asking such
> a stupid question, do you know?
There are no stupid questions.
>
>>>>That's
>>>>Chrisitianity all over. Satanism is nothing like that, thankfully.
>>>
>>> Howard Levey in his supposed satanic bible claims that there
>>> is no god or satan, encouraging people to have faith in that
>>> possibility. Why do you think that's better than encouraging people
>>> to have faith in other possibilities, if that's the type of "satanism"
>>> you're referring to?
>>
>>Anton Levay does not encompass all Satanism. His books are interesting but
>>they are his points of view.
>
> What type(s) of satanism do you think are better, and how do you
> think it/they are better?
How many types of Satanism do you think there are?
>
>>> If you're referring to real satanism where people are encouraged
>>> to put their faith in satan rather than in the creator,
>>
>>That's not real satanism!
>
> Sure it is.
Sure it isn't.
>Even a pretend satanist should be able to understand
> that fact.
As you have no idea what Satanism is then you are in no position to make
that judgement.
>
>>You don't know what real satanism is.
>
> Then it's past time for you to try explaining what it is. Go:
If you have to ask..
>
>>>why do you think
>>> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
>>
>>The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
>
> I don't have a true belief as to whether or not there is one or
> more than one. How many do you think there are, and why?
So what do you believe and why?
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:rf5vh3du93s2ri16q...@4ax.com...
No. I am happy to agree with the truth, I am reluctant to agree with you.
> it conflicts with personal relationships. That feeling is likely to
> grow until you have no problem being blatantly dishonest
> toward me without ever giving it any thought at all.
Blatant dishonesty is your field. You are a Christian.
>
>>What you suggested does have a
>>certain amount of suntifuge
>>IMO people should be given awareness of what Satanism is or more
>>importantly
>>what it isn't then from day one given the chance to join, though I'm not
>>sure i'd invite any goths. ;)
>>
>>>
>>> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
>>> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
>>> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
>>
>>DH is a typical Christan. He sees what he wants to see; truth be damned.
>
> I'm always interested in the truth. Try explaining what you think it
> is.
I'm more curious about your interpretation of it.
Tani Jantsang©
<dh@.> wrote in message news:ie6vh3tcum6d8uno2...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:38:55 -0400, "Tani Jantsang©" <tjs...@spampost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>OH, that's the least of it. The Christian bastards lately are up to
>>seriously false shit. They PRETEND to be Rabbis, they PRETEND to be
>>"completed JEWS" and have lured Jews who had no clue what they were up to
>>into their churches. Of course, it doesn't take long for these Jews to
>>realize that something is seriously wrong there. These are Christian
>>zionists - trying to - pretty much - exterminate Jews using a NEW tactic -
>>or actually it's not new. It's old. Before they forced Jews to convert
>>with the sword. Now they do it with subterfuge and falsehoods.
>
> Like what?
Proof that you can't read. Examples were given in the paragraph.
>
>>They also
>>want to try to tell Israel what to do. Happily, Israel is IGNORING them.
>>Also, one of these morons was on some TV show - it made big news. The
>>talk
>>show host is Jewish. PHEW did he rip her a new smile after she spewed her
>>stupid shit. They NEVER give up. And they just NEVER realize what harm
>>they do.
>
> Like what?
Ask any Jew, example is given in the paragraph.
>
>>> i actually was advocating for a 'goth' group that would have
>>> nothing to do with satanism at first, but only if the members
>>> later wanted to do it, then they would have a vote...
>>>
>>> i never SUGGESTED that they would be lured in with false promises
>>> or lies... they would join the goth club of their own Will with
>>> full cognizance and not being manipulated by others somehow.
>>
>>Lots of Goths are not satanists at all. The kid wants to do something for
>>school. Well, imo, the whole idea is not such a good idea. It might even
>>get him into trouble in school. He could maybe do an essay on why some
>>white kids become Wiggers. HA - that would go over really well (AHEM
>>AHEM).
>
> It would be more interesting if he tried to explain why atheists want
> to refer to themselves as satanists, and why those same people think
> it's a good thing that Howard told so many lies. Why do you think all
> that is better than trying to have a relationship with the creator?
Caught you being a dualist and being unable to read. Where did I evert say
that anything is better than anything else? I talked about what people are
interested in. Nothing better or worse about it. I like sci fi. Some
folks aren't interested. Fine! I don't BUG them with stupid questions
about why they aren't interested. I like coffee. Some folks hate it. I
don't ask them why. No need. That would be BUGGING them, something
Christians are very good at (which is why American Jewish elites in orgs
with a LOT of clout, in the 1960s and still going strong, ATTACKED it to the
point where this society is upside down on its head now).
You are asking ME a question. My answer is that wondering about any of that
is a waste of MY time. Not yours, of course. MINE. I could care less WHY
people get into the things they get into. It's none of my business, it
would be intrusive to bug them about it. I can't fathom why in the first
place - so I'm NOT the person to ask about it. Oh, I'm definitely NOT the
person to ask about it, especially when a devil worship just accused ME of
stalking the cos. Oh, I'm not stalking anyone. At least they could give me
the credit of admitting that I am NOT the person to ask about their
organization. I'm admittedly hostile to them, dh. I told you that -
therefore, if you had paid attention, as you pretend to do all the time,
you'd have known that. Asking a hostile person like me - you may as well
ask the KKK about blacks. Heh.
Who are you? You hide behind a nick. What is your name? Where are you?
Answer. One might reasonably conclude, based on previous repeated
experience on this newgroup, that you are a LaVeyan member, or even a Priest
in that organization, trying to SUSS OUT any and all opposition. It's been
done before.
I have a relationship with people on the physical level and more. I have
relationship with The Spirit and all that exists on a spiritual level. I
could care less if you think this is nothing. You are an empty shell, I
have concluded that.
dh
LOL!!! Don't ask you because you have no clue.
>>>>why do you think
>>>> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
>>>
>>>The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
>>
>> I don't have a true belief as to whether or not there is one or
>> more than one. How many do you think there are, and why?
>
>So what do you believe and why?
There may be a creator or more than one being involved
with the creation of the Earth and/or the Universe, because
there may be. Then again, there may not.
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:u03ki3p10nonor8o6...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:05:08 GMT, "flower of romance" <luc...@mega.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><dh@.> wrote in message news:bj5vh3t63bedtjs2n...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:59:19 GMT, "flower of romance" <luc...@mega.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You don't know what real satanism is.
>>>
>>> Then it's past time for you to try explaining what it is. Go:
>>
>>If you have to ask..
>
> LOL!!! Don't ask you because you have no clue.
LOL. Nothing you say matters, troll.
>
>>>>>why do you think
>>>>> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
>>>>
>>>>The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
>>>
>>> I don't have a true belief as to whether or not there is one or
>>> more than one. How many do you think there are, and why?
>>
>>So what do you believe and why?
>
> There may be a creator or more than one being involved
> with the creation of the Earth and/or the Universe, because
> there may be. Then again, there may not.
No. You beleive you came here to troll. You don't beleive or disbeleive
anything else. You are not human, you are a troll.
dh
>
><dh@.> wrote in message news:u03ki3p10nonor8o6...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:05:08 GMT, "flower of romance" <luc...@mega.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><dh@.> wrote in message news:bj5vh3t63bedtjs2n...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:59:19 GMT, "flower of romance" <luc...@mega.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You don't know what real satanism is.
>>>>
>>>> Then it's past time for you to try explaining what it is. Go:
>>>
>>>If you have to ask..
>>
>> LOL!!! Don't ask you because you have no clue.
>
>LOL. Nothing you say matters, troll.
The fact that you have no idea what you think real satanism is,
is by now an OBVIOUS fact regardless of who points it out. It's
also quite amusing.
>>>>>>why do you think
>>>>>> that's better than encouraging them to put their faith in the creator?
>>>>>
>>>>>The creator? What makes you think there is only one?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a true belief as to whether or not there is one or
>>>> more than one. How many do you think there are, and why?
>>>
>>>So what do you believe and why?
>>
>> There may be a creator or more than one being involved
>> with the creation of the Earth and/or the Universe, because
>> there may be. Then again, there may not.
>
>No.
How else do you think it could be then, do you have any idea?
Do you have any idea what you think you think about any of this?
flower of romance
<dh@.> wrote in message news:ugq3j35tg4582da2n...@4ax.com...