Set's Castration
Kaiden Fox
I was searching for information on Nephthys for one of the mailing lists
I'm on, in order to prove a point.
While wandering through a site on the Pantheon of Egypt, I happen to
notice (via text, not via graphics) that Set was castrated by Horus.
This got me wondering, as it fit in so perfectly with various
Saturn/Attis/Christ mythologies, as to how Setians handle this myth.
After all, they believe in the literal existence of a supernatural "God"
who - unless I've been mislead - *is* Set.
I send you this file in order to have your advice:
http://freespace.virgin.net/star.gate/seth.html
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versions of something that actually happened, usually with groups of people.
See end of this article which was on that website, for more.
BEGIN QUOTE From Website URL you posted:
Seth
In earliest times, Seth was the patron deity of Lower (Northern) Egypt and
represented the fierce storms of the desert whom the Lower Egyptians sought
to appease. However, when Upper Egypt conquered Lower Egypt and ushered in
the First Dynasty, Seth became known as the evil enemy of Horus (Upper
Egypt's dynastic god).
Seth was the brother of Osiris, Isis, and Nephthys, and husband of the
latter; according to some versions of the myths he is also father of Anubis.
Seth is best known for murdering his brother and attempting to kill his
nephew Horus; Horus, however, managed to survive and grew up to avenge his
father's death by establishing his rule over all Egypt, castrating Seth and
casting him out into the lonely desert for all time. In the 19th Dynasty
there began a resurgence of respect for Seth and he was seen as a great God
once more, the God who benevolently restrained the forces of the desert and
protected Egypt from foreigners.
END QUOTE
I would note that the Setian or Seti rulers were notably "Semites" - what
we'd call them today. What were the other groups there? Probably
different. They were a definite group of people there. "Semites" doesn't
mean they were part of, or friends with, the Hebrew tribes; just the same
ethnic group. It's just what we'd call them today. The language spoken in
Egypt (Khem) is considered a Hamitic language - no matter what you call it,
it was a language closely related to Hebrew. It was NOT an Indo-European
language at all, not even remotely similar.
In late versions of the Set-Osiris myth, myths continuing well into the
Roman Empire after Christ, Set was considered to have dismembered Osiris.
Isis recovered all Osiris's fragments except - noteworthy - his phallus;
that, was eaten by a letos fish. The symbolism here is incredible: donkey
cults murder dark cults, when Mother Goddess cults try to put the dark cults
back together, they are emasculated by the FISH: Christianity! Noteworthy
also, a later Gnostic heresy of Clement of Alexandria's followers known as
the Sethian heresy, claimed that Seth was an earlier incarnation of Jesus.
And don't think the mythopoetic telling of this tale ends so long ago. In
Mahdia the story goes that the cults managed to kill the fish, get back the
phallus and plant it: and out of it grew the GOAT OF MENDES!
There were mystical Essenes in the first century AD. called Ebionites who
believed that the "Holy Spirit" was female. Some of these became Christians
and developed into the 2nd century Clementine Gnostics. They believed the
Virgin Mary was a vessel of this Holy Spirit. Confusion exists about the
gender because they called the vessels of this spirit "Michael," which
literally means, "Who is like God?" Adam was the first "Michael" and Jesus
the last. You know how "imperato" means "I do." Mich-ah-el means a
question: "Who is like God?"
A further development of this theory included Seth in the line of
"Michaels." Seth, whom they thought was one of Eve's children, may have
been the first "Michael," they said, not Adam. Their line had Seth, Enos,
Cainan, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
David, Solomon, Joachim, Mary, Jesus; but the Holy Spirit only entered Jesus
at his baptism by John the Baptist.
The Clementines rejected the orthodox Christian story of the Fall of man as
derogatory of Adam and Eve, apparently blaming their expulsion from Eden
wholly on Satan.
Robert Graves, in "The White Goddess," Chapter 9, uses as sources
translations of Coptic texts by Bridge, such as "The Ethiopian Legends of
Our Lady Mary," as well as Bridge's translation of "A Discourse on Mary," by
Cyril of Jerusalem appearing in Bridge's "Miscellaneous Coptic Texts."
Cyril, in that text, refers to a "Gospel to the Hebrews" that was never
found.
I think the Set that the TOS uses (correct me if I'm wrong on this - I got
it from web material) is a lot OLDER than this. They might be talking about
Sati - which is the same thing as our "Sat!" Xeper is a very old concept -
that's like our "Tan" - the same concept. From the looks of the more
ancient Egyptians, they seem to me to be some kind of mix between Blacks and
Asians. The ones thousands of years later that made up the Seti rulers were
clearly Semitic peoples. Different people. The only thing "odd" about the
concept of xeper is that's it's being uttered in a foreign language.
"Becoming." It means that. "Sat" means Being.
Being becomes. It constantly becomes. It HAS to become. Lol. Will
(Thelema) continues on, never stopping - if it tries to halt, it gets lost.
It falters. These concepts are almost ubiquitous and only manage to get
rediscovered or reinvented again and again. What is the I-Ching, what are
those hexagrams and/or trigrams? Well, it's the lines of earth as they flow
through the Tao. Is that like matter, atoms of it, constantly flowing
through time? Yes. Same thing. Minkowsky World Lines? Same thing.
I think, from new discoveries, Amun was the oldest concept of a deity ever
worshiped in Egypt. They were pretty tolerant and had many deities there
all throughout, however. Akhenaton was the first monotheist and an
intolerant bastard. He was about to ban all other religions, and had
already banned the Amun festival. That is why they hated him so much. And
oh yeah, they HATED him! His priest was named Thut-mose! MOSHE! There is
a prayer they showed, written by Thut-mose to the Aton that is almost
identical to a LATER prayer introduced by Moses dedicated to Jehova. !
Sorry, I didn't write any of it down - it was on History or Discovery, one
of those. They were doing an entire show on Akhenaton and they showed the
city he built - I think Akhet aton? Both Freud and Patai are convinced that
Moses IS this priest of Akhenaton's.
The Seti rulers threw a lot of foreigners out, not just the people that came
to be known as Hebrew. Hapiru means "stranger" in Egyptian. The Argoi and
Danoi were also thrown out. Egyptians were very tolerant, so they must
have had a good reason to kick them all out.
I think we need a Seti ruler in the USA, heh.
TJ
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Matango
> Asians. The ones thousands of years later that made up the Seti rulers were
slantiness of the eye with makeup, you can see where they draw lines
from the corner of the eye to almost the cheek. In some paintings.
Phosphoros X
In _Seth: God of Confusion_, author H. te Velde argues rather
convincingly for the "castration" of Set being a later euphemism for
Horus having "stolen his seed", i.e., having had homosexual relations
with Set and to have saved his semen to use in a spell against him
(better than nail clippings, I guess).
Regards,
Phosphoros
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"People's Commissar" wrote:
>There is a prayer they showed, written by Thut-mose to the Aton that
is almost identical to a LATER prayer introduced by Moses dedicated to
Jehova.
Here is an English translation of this "Hymn to Aton", which is indeed
nearly identical to the later biblical Psalm 107.
*****
The Hymn to Aton
You appear beautifully on the horizon of heaven,
The living Aton, the beginning of life!
When you have risen on the eastern horizon,
You have filled every land with your beauty.
You are gracious, great, glistening, and high over every land;
Your rays encompass the lands to the limit of all that you have made:
As you are Ra, you reach to the end of them;
You subdue them for your beloved son.
Though you are far away, your rays are on earth;
Though you are in their faces, no one knows your going.
When you set in the western horizon,
The land is in darkness, in the manner of death.
While the true Nile comes from the underworld for Egypt.
Your rays suckle every meadow.
When you rise, they live, they grow for you.
You make the seasons in order to rear all that you have made,
The winter to cool them,
And the heat that they may taste you.
You have made the distant sky in order to rise therein,
In order to see all that you do make.
While you were alone,
Rising in your form as the living Aton,
Appearing, shining, withdrawing or approaching,
You made millions of forms of yourself alone.
Cities, towns, fields, roads, and river-
Every eye beholds you over against them,
For you are the Aton of the day over the earth
You are in my heart, And there is no other that knows you,
Save only your son Nefer-xeperu-Ra Wa-en-Ra,
For you have made him well-versed in your plans and in your strength.
The world came into being by your hand,
According as you have made them.
When you have risen they live,
When you set they die.
You are lifetime your own self,
For one lives only through you.
Eyes are fixed on beauty until you set.
All work is laid aside when you set in the west.
But when you rise again,
Everything is made to flourish for the king,
Since you did found the earth
And raise them up for your son,
Who came forth from your body:
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Akhenaton,
and the Chief Wife of the King, Nefertiti, living and youthful forever
and ever.
*****
Aton is the same as the Semitic god Adon or Adonai, even later the
"Adonis" of the Greeks.
Regards,
Phosphoros
Victor Le Nettoyeur
>It seems like it was the fashion in Egypt to artificially enhance the
>slantiness of the eye with makeup, you can see where they draw lines
>from the corner of the eye to almost the cheek. In some paintings.
That's really interesting. I have seen this also. I always attributed it to
the Egyptian reverence for felines, though I don't have any evidence for
that. I wonder if Michael Aquino or Ron Mershon can enlighten us on the
reason for this?
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That's nice, Victor.
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entirety:
In article <torthon...@corp.supernews.com>,
People's Commissar <tanija...@myself.com> wrote:
>
>In late versions of the Set-Osiris myth, myths continuing well into the
>Roman Empire after Christ, Set was considered to have dismembered Osiris.
>Isis recovered all Osiris's fragments except - noteworthy - his phallus;
>that, was eaten by a letos fish. The symbolism here is incredible: donkey
>cults murder dark cults, when Mother Goddess cults try to put the dark cults
>back together, they are emasculated by the FISH: Christianity! Noteworthy
>also, a later Gnostic heresy of Clement of Alexandria's followers known as
>the Sethian heresy, claimed that Seth was an earlier incarnation of Jesus.
Er, you are confusing Seth with Set. Seth was a son of Adam. Set was an
Egyptian god-dude with an anteater-moosh. They are two entirely different
figures, coincidentally originating in Egypt.
There is no more connection between them than there is between the words
"Athena" and "Marina."
And if you are not saying Seth=Set, then why did you bring it up?
>that's like our "Tan" - the same concept. From the looks of the more
>ancient Egyptians, they seem to me to be some kind of mix between Blacks and
>Asians.
They seem to me to be almost exactly the same people who live there today.
>(Thelema) continues on, never stopping - if it tries to halt, it gets lost.
>It falters. These concepts are almost ubiquitous and only manage to get
>rediscovered or reinvented again and again. What is the I-Ching, what are
>those hexagrams and/or trigrams? Well, it's the lines of earth as they flow
>through the Tao. Is that like matter, atoms of it, constantly flowing
>through time? Yes. Same thing. Minkowsky World Lines? Same thing.
I-ching; toaist chinese yarrow stalk divination.
Atoms of matter, constantly flowing through time: atoms of matter
constantly flowing through time.
Minkowski 'world lines:' events defined in a Minkowski spacetime: a
four-dimensional real vector space on which is defined a nondegenerate,
symmetric bilinear form of index one.
Not at all the same thing. Not even close.
>oh yeah, they HATED him! His priest was named Thut-mose! MOSHE! There is
>a prayer they showed, written by Thut-mose to the Aton that is almost
>identical to a LATER prayer introduced by Moses dedicated to Jehova. !
>Sorry, I didn't write any of it down - it was on History or Discovery, one
>of those.
A source of unimpeachable credibility. I once saw a television program
that talked about how lamp-soot caused the conquest of space.
>The Seti rulers threw a lot of foreigners out, not just the people that came
>to be known as Hebrew. Hapiru means "stranger" in Egyptian. The Argoi and
>Danoi were also thrown out. Egyptians were very tolerant, so they must
>have had a good reason to kick them all out.
>
>I think we need a Seti ruler in the USA, heh.
Will such a ruler get rid of Mr. Gerbler for us?
Oy, Moshe!
-Lupo
"No one talks more passionately of his rights than he who in the depths of
his soul doubts whether he has any" -Nietzsche <i...@pentagon.io.com>
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seen eyes like that :)
But even the older statues, very true to life - they have that look to them.
I've seen people that look exactly like that - they are always Black and
Asian.
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the same. "The nations of Israel and Ishmael sprang from the loins of Set"
(referring to SET of Egypt) - Manetho. TeVelda called it the first
"anti-semitism." In those times I spoke of, anything with "Set/Seth"
heiroglyph affixed to it referred to "THOSE PEOPLE DESIGNATED." It's all in
TeVelda. This, of course, is much later on in Egypt.
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> Brother Lupo uncharacteristically reads a mongoloid screed in its
> entirety:
> In article <torthon...@corp.supernews.com>,
> People's Commissar <tanija...@myself.com> wrote:
> >
> >In late versions of the Set-Osiris myth, myths continuing well into the
> >Roman Empire after Christ, Set was considered to have dismembered Osiris.
> >Isis recovered all Osiris's fragments except - noteworthy - his phallus;
> >that, was eaten by a letos fish. The symbolism here is incredible:
donkey
> >cults murder dark cults, when Mother Goddess cults try to put the dark
cults
> >back together, they are emasculated by the FISH: Christianity!
Noteworthy
> >also, a later Gnostic heresy of Clement of Alexandria's followers known
as
> >the Sethian heresy, claimed that Seth was an earlier incarnation of
Jesus.
>
> Er, you are confusing Seth with Set. Seth was a son of Adam. Set was an
> Egyptian god-dude with an anteater-moosh. They are two entirely different
> figures, coincidentally originating in Egypt.
> There is no more connection between them than there is between the words
> "Athena" and "Marina."
No, I'm referring to a period of time when Set versus Osiris was a big deal
calling for a big celebration wherein the locals would perform mock Set
desecrations. They'd even kill donkies.
>
> And if you are not saying Seth=Set, then why did you bring it up?
The original article, which I quoted (copied/pasted) had it spelled Seth -
as does TeVelda in his book "Seth, God of Confusion." He IS an expert.
Wait, ant eater? See that, you are posting a goof. Set was DONKEY, a wild
onogur.
>
> >that's like our "Tan" - the same concept. From the looks of the more
> >ancient Egyptians, they seem to me to be some kind of mix between Blacks
and
> >Asians.
>
> They seem to me to be almost exactly the same people who live there today.
Yeah, now they surely do. But at one time this was not the case. The
Ptolomies surely did not look like the people there today.
>
> >(Thelema) continues on, never stopping - if it tries to halt, it gets
lost.
> >It falters. These concepts are almost ubiquitous and only manage to get
> >rediscovered or reinvented again and again. What is the I-Ching, what
are
> >those hexagrams and/or trigrams? Well, it's the lines of earth as they
flow
> >through the Tao. Is that like matter, atoms of it, constantly flowing
> >through time? Yes. Same thing. Minkowsky World Lines? Same thing.
>
> I-ching; toaist chinese yarrow stalk divination.
Only vulgarly speaking. Not seriously spoken of at all. The Great Treatise
is not about Ms. Cleo stuff.
>
> Atoms of matter, constantly flowing through time: atoms of matter
> constantly flowing through time.
>
> Minkowski 'world lines:' events defined in a Minkowski spacetime: a
> four-dimensional real vector space on which is defined a nondegenerate,
> symmetric bilinear form of index one.
>
> Not at all the same thing. Not even close.
Same thing: view yourself as those lines - like spaghetti strings all
forming a tangle and connecting to everything you interact with.
>
> >oh yeah, they HATED him! His priest was named Thut-mose! MOSHE! There
is
> >a prayer they showed, written by Thut-mose to the Aton that is almost
> >identical to a LATER prayer introduced by Moses dedicated to Jehova. !
> >Sorry, I didn't write any of it down - it was on History or Discovery,
one
> >of those.
>
> A source of unimpeachable credibility. I once saw a television program
> that talked about how lamp-soot caused the conquest of space.
Phosphorus posted the prayer - they most definitely did show both prayers
and the people presenting it were experts. Since it's not my particular
"thing" I didn't take notes. Hey, I was relaxing and watching the damned
show.
>
> >The Seti rulers threw a lot of foreigners out, not just the people that
came
> >to be known as Hebrew. Hapiru means "stranger" in Egyptian. The Argoi
and
> >Danoi were also thrown out. Egyptians were very tolerant, so they must
> >have had a good reason to kick them all out.
> >
> >I think we need a Seti ruler in the USA, heh.
>
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From TEVELDE
The Hyksos called their own god SUTEKH (the Greek name of this which is
well-known, was Typhon which I've used). SET was the ROMAN name of this
God. When the Hebrews lived in Egypt, it was not called "Set" IN the
Egyptian language, ergo, the Hebrews never HEARD the name SET while in
Egypt. In Greece it was called SOTHIS, only in Rome was it SET. It is odd
that accounts of the Hyksos were that they were wholly unknown, everything
about them was wholly unknown including their language and appearance. If
they had been ANY KIND of Semites or Aryans, the Egyptians would have at
least been able to identify them. There was among the Turanian nomadic
people a tribe called IKI-OGUS. There were Ural Altaics in Libya centuries
before this. Due to their foreignness and mode of warfare, gods, and etc.
it is HIGHLY possible that they were one more wave of Central Asian horsemen
that the "world" was so familiar with later on in history.
ALL foreign Gods were called SET by The Egyptians. FOREIGNERS, specifically
those we would call "Semites" today, were also referred to as Set. Whereas
Egyptians referred to themselves as Horus "TRUE PEOPLE." (Sse-su-har) or
something like that. Set was not only considered evil for harming Horus (or
Set people for harming Horus people) and then getting itself tricked, but it
was evil for harming Osiris. To top that, the Egyptians even considered Set
(or Set people) STILL EVIL when Set or the Set-people helped to battle the
monster Apep (Apopes or Apophis, OPHIONEUS, Leviathan).
As to Set's unusual sexual nature: "he is a homosexual, but NOT one; he is
impotent, but NOT impotent; he is missing testicles but not a eunuch" there
is implied again, something esoteric. THE EYE (mental-lust epythemesai) and
the TESTICLES (NOT the penis!) story: stealing the eye of Horus (stealing
the HORUS from PEOPLE). Set's sperm is "filthy," it is POISON. No matter
what Set is or does, it is considered no good BY THE EGYPTIANS and FROM
EARLIEST TIMES. It is connected here to sexual inadequacy which
ESOTERICALLY has MUCH to do with "the Horus" and "the APEP" - again, this is
esoteric. (eye and testicles). Te Velde does NOT KNOW the esoteric
meanings, but he KNOWS there IS one behind this story and he admits this.
There is mention in Te Velde of a myth of Set's birth being not complete,
too soon. There was NO MORE Setian importance after the 20th Dynasty,
according to Te Velde.
To top THAT off, the so-called FAMOUS SETIAN Rulers, Ramses etc...though
they CALLED their God Set - were NOT EVEN WORSHIPPING Set. Te Velde makes
this CLEAR. The God they worshipped was in fact BAAL. The ONLY similarity
to Set with Baal was "storms" - the entire rest of the deity IS BAAL. He
reminds us of that.
Egyptians called ALL foreign Gods "Set." I mentioned Typhon (in the article
this is from) ONLY because that is so well known and I wanted to clearly
show that TYPHON was the boar goddess not the donkey god.
As to the Temple of Sethos I in Abydos built by Ramses II, the NAME of Set
is replaced by Geb in a purification ritual and, to top that, the name was
not written with the hieroglyph of Set at all, but with the sign of OSIRIS
and sometimes together with the symbol of ISIS. Also, the hieroglyph
supposedly mentioned by someone in the Temple of Set (modern one) REPLACED
the one for Set on the Coffins.
This hieroglyph does NOT stand for Set. (I can't draw it on here in this
post).
What Te Velde also states regarding PRE-dynastic Egypt wherein that 3790BC
DONKEY figure was found, is that there was an indigenous population there of
people who either had Set as a God, or just used DONKEYS and were primitive,
nature-worshipping people. These were then overrun by the Dynastic Horus
group. Also in his book, some of the Horus versus Set fights seem to be as
I wrote - cults fighting. Te Velde also states that the OLDEST figure of
Set is CLEARLY A DONKEY, it is NOT "some mysterious animal" as it was LATER,
and this DONKEY dates back to before 3790 BC He mentions how in the earlier
Dynastic times they referred to Ombus as the Setian land, but NOTHING has
proven this out.
TJ
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SET: "Are you spit or swallow?"
Horus: "Well...ahh... ummm...."
Nepthys: "Hun, who are you talking to?"
Isis: "Oh, Horus, please tell me it's not a donkey!"
Osirus: "Are you sure you don't remeber the liscence-plate on that fish?"
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One should be aware that any God or Goddess that has longevity will acquire
certain aspects due to "mistakes" about the meaning of their name.
For example, the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is painted as an apple
because of the word "mallus" in Latin meaning both "apple" and "evil."
Lilith is seen by many occultists as a Goddess of Night because of
mistakes with the word, "Laylah." Books on Lilith usually have paintings
of a dinosaur-like snake-woman giving Eve the fruit. While this may be
indeed to to Christian artists taking the Kaballistic idea that the
serpent was Lilith, it is also possible that the Hebrew "hawwah" (Mother
of All Living, one of the titles of Eve), was confused with the Aramaic
"hiwya," meaning "serpent."
The issue is not if two words are truly related linguistically, but if the
people we are talking about related the concepts behind the words.
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It is Nehushtan.
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>In earliest times, Seth was the patron deity of Lower (Northern) Egypt and
>represented the fierce storms of the desert whom the Lower Egyptians sought
>to appease.
No. Actually Set was the patron deity of the 11th nome or ditratict of Upper
Egypt. His worship initially centered around Ombos (the ancient Nubt) which is
in southern (upper) Egypt.
-RtM
Phosphoros X
"Victor Le Nettoyeur" wrote:
>I always attributed it to the Egyptian reverence for felines, though
I don't have any evidence for that.
Your feline theory may be correct. The cat-goddess Bastet was called
the "flaming eye of Horus", and there is an *utchet* (sacred eye
amulet), adorned as Matango described, which is inset with nineteen
tiny cat figures around the eye.
Regards,
Phosphoros
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Hey, if you want to know a heap of stuff - stuff that pretty much was like a
raging war in academia - there are two books Martin Bernal wrote - one is
Black Athena. Prole has the name of all of these, exactly - but Lefkowitz
debated this and wrote two books. I read one - it was very good. Nope,
don't remember titles - not into it enough to remember that. But these are
EASY to find. Prole has the titles of all 4 books if you want them - just
ask.
She just about spilled everything you can find in our Set article about the
"Egyptian" Mystery tradition (it's Eleusinian, not Egyptian at all) and you
can find out a HEAP of stuff, especially from Lefkowitz's 2 books about
legit Egyptian stuff, versus the stuff that has come down from the esoteric
western school on that. I'd recommend all 4 books - two sides - to anyone
interested in Egyptian matters way back then.
TJ
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>Your feline theory may be correct. The cat-goddess Bastet was called
>the "flaming eye of Horus", and there is an *utchet* (sacred eye
>amulet), adorned as Matango described, which is inset with nineteen
>tiny cat figures around the eye.
That's quite intriguing.
It was apparently a crime punishable by death to kill a cat in Egypt. I
have even heard that Egyptians went so far as to train cats for hunting,
not unlike the way Americans train retrievers. (That sounded like a tall
tale to me, but I have heard it in several separate places...so I tend to
wonder).
The famous bust of nefertiri (or nefertiti?) looks like it accentuated her
feline features. The reverence for cats in Egypt must have etched itself
into the subconscious of the adherents. (I'm not Egyptian, but I can't
deny that cats are beautiful animals.)
I do have a copy of the Book of the Dead kicking around someplace, but I
am not nearly the expert you or Dr. Aquino are. At some point I ought to
read up on the Egyptians in detail.
Thanks for the input and the poem.
Proletariat
moved in and out of Egypt - so modern Egyptian populations are different
from ancient Egyptian populations. There are MANY types living in modern
Egypt, as people FROM there can tell you! SOME human types living in Egypt
now resemble ancient Egyptians - according to a physical anthropologist from
NYC that analyzed the Sphynx. The same physical anthropologist (who works
for the NYPD) determined that the Sphynx had somewhat "black/negro"
features. I can see the same thing: the jaw, nose root, lips, and profile.
Many people from NE Africa have features somewhat like ancient Egyptians.
They can be very beautiful people, to my eye. Cavalli-Sforza postulates that
this group, which is genetically related to the Khoisan of South Africa, is
the result of an ancient mixture of Western Asians and African Blacks.
Mary Lefkowitz's book is "Not Out of Africa." She also edited a book, "Black
Athena Revisited." I recommend these along with Martin Bernal's 2 volumes of
"Black Athena."
Bernal's books are excellent sources of information about how Western
academia systematically lied about and whitewashed Classical history. They
do this to this day. For instance, the FIRST words out of any Art History
professor's mouth when discussing Greek art and architecture should be: what
we have are RELICS, the skeletons of once were brightly painted and adorned
statues and monuments. Greek temples were not the staid white structures
that neo-classicism pretends they were. E.G. Greek drama was offensively
vulgar by modern Christian standards.
It's pretty clear from the archaeological evidence that the Hellenes
borrowed lots of architectural and sculptural motifs etc from Egyptian
ones - and then did their OWN thing with them. Ancient Athenians, e.g., did
not look like ancient Egyptians. They had a somewhat Asian cast to their
features, but not a black one really. However - Satyrs DID in an odd way.
It's also worth mentioning that Aristotle and other Classical philosophers
considered the "Northern Barbarians" (who have since appropriated Classical
culture, after turning it on its head for 2 millenia) to be stupid, simple
brutes. So much for Aryanist bullshit about Classical history.
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