But there is nothing left, not even rubble. Just an empty lot with a
fence. After standing there in shock for a few minutes, I felt a
great sadness and anger. Anger at myself for not coming earlier.
Anger at the people who tore it down. Anger at Anton LaVey for
letting it deteriorate. Anger at the residents of San Francisco for
failing to preserve an important local landmark. I found out later
that it was demolished on October 16. They could have at least waited
until Halloween.
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- From Thea von Harbou's original novel _Metropolis_
(later made into the famous Ufa film):
* * * * * * * * * *
There was a house in the great Metropolis which was
older than the town. Many said that it was older, even,
than the cathedral, and, before the Archangel Michael
raised his voice as advocate in the conflict for God, the
house stood there in its evil gloom, defying the
cathedral from out its dull eyes.
It had lived through the time of smoke and soot. Every
year which passed over the city seemed to creep, when
dying, into this house, so that, at last it was a cemetery -
a coffin, filled with dead tens of years.
Set into the black wood of the door stood, copper-red,
mysterious, the seal of Solomon, the pentagram.
It was said that a magician, who came from the East
(and in the track of whom the plague wandered), had
built the house in seven nights. But the masons and
carpenters of the town did not know who had mortared
the bricks, nor who had erected the roof. No foreman's
speech and no ribboned nosegay had hallowed the
Builder's Feast after the pious custom. The chronicles
of the town held no record of when the magician died,
nor of how he died. One day it occurred to the citizens
as odd that the red shoes of the magician had so long
shunned the abominable plaster of the town. Entrance
was forced into the house and not a living soul was
found inside. But the rooms, which received, neither by
day nor by night, a ray from the great lights of the sky,
seemed to be waiting for their master, sunken in sleep.
Parchments and folios lay about, open, under a covering
of dust, like silver-grey velvet.
Set in all the doors stood, copper-red, mysterious, the
seal of Solomon, the pentagram.
Then came a time which pulled down antiquities. Then
the words were spoken: The house must die. But the
house was stronger than the words, as it was stronger
than the centuries. With suddenly-falling stones it
slew those who laid hands on its walls. It opened the
floor under their feet, dragging them down into a
shaft, of which no man had previously had any
knowledge. It was as though the plague, which had
formerly wandered in the wake of the red shoes of the
magician, still crouched in the corners of the narrow
house, springing out at men from behind, to seize
them by the neck. They died, and no doctor knew
the illness. The house resisted its destruction with
so great a force that word of its malignity went out
over the borders of the city, spreading far over the
land, that, at last, there was no honest man to be
found who would have ventured to make war
against it. Yes, even the thieves and the rogues,
who were promised remission of their sentence
provided that they declared themselves ready to
pull down the magician's house, preferred to go to
the pillory, or even to the scaffold, rather than to
enter within these spiteful walls, these latchless
doors, which were sealed with Solomon's seal ...
* * * * * * * * * *
Among the types of Black Magic is that of a location,
which may or may not be further influenced by
structures on, and/or activity within said structures
on, that location. The literature is widespread, from
the more conservative ley-line theories to the wilder
extremes of Roger de Lafforest's _Houses That Kill_.
It will be interesting to see what happens at 6114
California Street henceforth. If apartments are
erected there, who will occupy them? Consider that:
* The ground floor apartment will encompass the
space of the Den of Iniquity, the Blue Room, Anton's
office, and the Council Chamber.
* The second floor apartment will encompass the
space of the Main Ritual Chamber, the Red Room
(Anton & Diane's bedroom), and the Purple Room.
* The third floor apartment will encompass Diane
LaVey's office, Karla & Zeena's rooms, and the
Dead Space.
No, I don't think the saga of 6114 is so easily ended
by a mere wrecking ball.
Michael A. Aquino
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"Dr. Michael A. Aquino" <xe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>
having been in there a few times myself, I agree with you, if not because of
some terrific magical power but rather the tension and unusualness of the
people who lived there, one of whom is dead.
On some level, I think it would be hilariously funny if it became inhabited
by people that started a fundamentalist Christian cult focused on
witchhunts. It would be the ultimate irony.
- wolf -
>
> It will be interesting to see what happens at 6114
> California Street henceforth. If apartments are
> erected there, who will occupy them? Consider that:
>
> * The ground floor apartment will encompass the
> space of the Den of Iniquity, the Blue Room, Anton's
> office, and the Council Chamber.
>
> * The second floor apartment will encompass the
> space of the Main Ritual Chamber, the Red Room
> (Anton & Diane's bedroom), and the Purple Room.
>
> * The third floor apartment will encompass Diane
> LaVey's office, Karla & Zeena's rooms, and the
> Dead Space.
Which floor did Blanche sleep on?
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you know with the rents here near and in SF, it will probably be filled with
lawyers and the like...
Oh, did the Satanic Pinks who were associated with "Project One" live
there too?
--
"You bet he's good looking - and has a monster cock to boot."
-Tani Jantsang on her unnamed token porn pal
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See old photos of the Black House, and look at the blds on the side:
http://www.satan2000.com/images/blackhouse.htm
Not your tropical lawyer area in SF
"Fmr988" <fmr...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20011115120907...@mb-mf.news.cs.com...
Perhaps not the ultimate irony, but a very unpleasant one!
Too bad no one wanted to pay to keep the house as it was. Perhaps it
could have been turned into a B & B, like Boleskine House. ;)
The apartment question is a fascinating one. I can imagine various
dwellers (ahem) there, holding the views (and having the manner of
expressing said views) of the regulars on alt.satanism. It wouldn't
be an environment conducive to any kind of serious work, but it might
be extremely entertaining!
Kori
--
Hail Thyself!
John H Shaw
New Church of Satan
SatanicSupplies.com
Al-Jilwah Magazine
"Dr. Michael A. Aquino" <xe...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011114235500...@nso-fj.aol.com...
It's too bad you won't have the chance to get a hold of any of it to
sell on your web site. I suggest that you start chopping up your own
house and spray paint the pieces black. None of your NCoS members will
know the difference.
--
> --
> "You fuckin little skinny Marilyn Manson lookin fags will get dropped!"
> -John Shaw of SatanicSupplies.com reaching out to his gay clientele
""Fags" in that sense was meant as a pile of sticks because that is what they
are...a pile of stick people, not having anything to do with their sexual
orientation. Look up the word fag in your dictionary. Do you have a
problem with the word fag? Are you homophobic? Most people I know that are
gay are not offended with that word because they know it has nothing to do
with them. YOU are the one with the problem. Come out of the
closet...you'll feel a whole lot better. You proved you are in a closet by
posting from a anonymous remailer. Way to go Peter!"
-John Shaw doing his version of the Tani Jantsang and the Satanic Reds'
hit "Backpedal Up The Bullshit River"
**************************
no_h...@hotmail.com (No House) wrote in message news:<5ee78bf9.01111...@posting.google.com>...
(message snipped)
That was a great post. Glad to see you back. You have the best
posts, even if I sometimes don't understand all of them.
While you're here, I have some questions I've been wondering about.
(Anyone else who can answer these can also feel free to reply.)
Does Don Werby's company still own the 6114 property?
What was LaVey doing between about 1955 and 1965? SLOAS is vague on
this. I've read many different theories. I don't quite believe any
of these, but do you know if he ever owned a construction company,
produced porn for the European market, or worked as a fire-eater or a
used-car salesman? I just think he was working as a musician around
SF.
Did he ever respond publicly to the Rolling Stone article or Zeena's
allegations? Has Stanton ever talked publicly about him?
"PowerSurge" <circuit...@the666club.com> wrote in message news:<DOUI7.1317$m_4....@nntp2.onemain.com>...
Dr. A, I'm surprised to read you waxing mystical. All that's left of
the Black House now, IMO, is memories. If there were not adequate
energies/forces surrounding the house to preserve it, then chances are
good what may be left wouldn't zap a whisker on a mouse.
The saga will continue, based on memories alone.
Actually, the scary thing is, those apartments are charging something
like $2k a month for 1-br's. There ain't no "downscale" in SFO outside of
the government housing projects.
-Lupo
"They are instructed in excellence in three things from age 5 to 20; to
ride, to draw the bow and to speak the truth." -Herodotus <i...@io.com>
>Meaning: I am so scared, I don't want anyone to know who I am...I don't
>want to hurt anyone's feelings that like me, right now, so i'll post
>anonymously. I care so much about what people THINK about me, but I'm a
>Satanist! Nice try, Peter!
Who is Peter? You've mentioned this person in several of your posts...is this
person a friend of yours? Are you two having a personal squabble?
Just curious.
--JD
"IX Corp" <i...@bermuda.io.com> wrote in message
news:GSXI7.77352$Wa.48...@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
> Actually, the scary thing is, those apartments are charging something
> like $2k a month for 1-br's. There ain't no "downscale" in SFO outside of
> the government housing projects.
Why do you think Anton lost it? He should have started the Empoorium
soooner, huh? How much money do you think you can raise by begging your
members to help out Satanists that should have been Satanists and did what
they needed to do THEMSELVES to obtain their desires. That was one of the
most hilarious screwups they did, YET. I stress yet.
No House wrote:
> Thanks for the link.
Provided courtesy of Satan2000.com
> Do you know when those photos were taken?
They were taken by the infamous Audy Morgan a few years ago. I can get the exact date from him, if you really
want it.
> Are there any older photos out there-before it was boarded up?
The only one that I know of (other than perhaps photos that Dr Aquino has) is in some new article that a SF paper
did. It shows the house with the black shutters on the windows, rather than the boards. I have it somewhere, but
I'm sure you can find it on Google. It was something like, "Is the House of Hell going to Hell?" Reading that
article, caused us to go and take the pictures. The picture the paper used, was a much older photo.
I remember walking by the house, back in the early 70's before it had a fence up. It was sort of gray or
charcoal, not black-black.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/satanism32.html
no_h...@hotmail.com (No House) wrote:
>Does Don Werby's company still own the 6114 property?
I don't know - haven't spoken to them for some years now.
When I last spoke with their CEO, he was quite definite
that 6114 had deteriorated past any possible renovation
or preservation, particularly given SF's building codes.
>What was LaVey doing between about 1955 and 1965?
>SLOAS is vague on this. I've read many different theories.
>I don't quite believe any of these, but do you know if he ever
>owned a construction company [No], produced porn for the
>European market [No], or worked as a fire-eater or a
>used-car salesman? [No] I just think he was working as a
>musician around SF. [Yes]
- From my _The Church of Satan_:
In 1948, while working as a free-lance organist in San
Francisco, Anton met Carole Lansing, the daughter of a
Wells Fargo bank executive, at "Playland at the Beach",
San Francisco's amusement park. In 1950 Anton and
Carole were married. The following year, confronted with
the probability of being drafted for service in the Korean
War, Anton claims that he sought escape by enrolling in
courses in criminology at the City College of San Francisco.
In _The Devil's Avenger_ he excuses his draft-dodging as
simple avoidance of exploitation by the government - not
a political or moral protest.
In 1952 Carole gave birth to a daughter, Karla Maritza.
We are told by _DA/SLOAS_ that in accordance with his
wife's wish that he acquire a job more secure than that of
organist for stag parties and burlesque houses, Anton
became a photographer for the San Francisco Police
Department. This story also appears to be fictitious,
invented later to dramatize his professed familiarity with
and disgust for the seamy side of human nature.
In 1955 he obtained a regular job playing the organ in
the "Lost Weekend" nightclub. He also claimed, again
falsely, to be the official organist of the city of San Francisco.
[...]
We are told by _DA/SLOAS_ that in 1956 Anton discovered,
admired, and bought the famous house at 6114 California
Street. Supposedly it had been built in 1887 by a Scottish sea
captain who had then disappeared under mysterious
circumstances. The house was next acquired by Mary Ellen
Pleasant, San Francisco’s spectacular madam of the Barbary
Coast era, and another madam had subsequently modified
the building with false walls, secret panels, and concealed
trapdoors.
In actuality the house's history was quite different, though
no less colorful. It was bought by Anton's parents when they
moved from Chicago to San Francisco following his birth.
According to her grandfather Joseph, says Zeena, the back
(original) portion of the house was built ca. 1876, and the
front portion added after the 1906 San Francisco Fire.
Joseph indicated that the fireplace in the living room (the
famous "ritual chamber" fireplace seen in many publicity
photos) had been built from cobblestones taken from one
of the streets broken up during the Fire.
In the 1950s the elder Leveys moved to another residence
in San Francisco, leaving 6114 to their son for his home.
In 1971 they decided to deed the building jointly to Anton
and his second wife Diane.
After taking possession of the house, Anton began to revise
it to his personal taste. All of the interior rooms were
repainted in dramatic colors such as glossy red (main
bedroom), glossy black (the living room and kitchen),
and flat purple (the sitting room). A swinging bookcase was
added to the Purple Room to create a secret passage to the
Red Room, and a fake-fireplace trapdoor leading to a
basement ladder was also added to the Purple Room.
To a post-1966 visitor the house announced its sinister
presence with tightly-shuttered bay windows, its coat of
black paint, and the inquisitive eye of a closed-circuit
television camera peering from the attic window. Upon
daring to enter the dimly-lit hall, the visitor would be
brought up short by a stuffed leopard, then encounter
three or four of Anton's Charles Addams-esque paintings:
a pig-faced monstrosity in a yellowed wedding dress, a
collection of skulls, perhaps a desolate seashore with a tiny
figure hanging from a gibbet. At the end of the hall would
be found the Purple Room, furnished with a tombstone
coffee-table, a glass-encased skeleton, a barber chair, an
infinity mirror with a beautifully-carved frame of writhing
daemons, and two bookcases containing scores of curious
books on subjects ranging from the California criminal
code to ritual magic.
A sign on the moving bookcase assured visitors that they
would have their hands amputated if they dared touch the
volumes; near the top of the case a stuffed rat glared as if
to emphasize the warning.
The Red Room contained a black bed raised almost to the
ceiling; underneath it was a small office area and hi-fi
control center. Swords, "morning-star" maces, and rifles
lined the walls. To the right was the bathroom: The wall
behind the bathtub displayed a cheerful painted octopus,
while the water closet was equipped with such atmospheric
refinements as a plastic rose, a World War I gas mask, and
a "Satan Wants You!" recruiting poster to captivate a
captive audience.
To the rear of the Purple Room and the Red Room was the
kitchen, one wall covered with a mural of the Devil atop
a fire-spewing Bald Mountain, and another containing
paintings of three daemons with fish tails and/or impossibly
jointed arms and legs. Across from this trio the exhaust pipe
from the stove entered the mouth of still another painted
devil, this one of the ordinary red/horned variety. The
poster advertising the _Nightmare Alley_ film added a final,
clandestine touch.
But as striking as these rooms were, they paled beside the
chambers of the house that Anton would construct for actual
magical pursuits. The glossy-black living room became the
main ritual chamber - site of the Church of Satan's flamboyant
ceremonies - and received electric wall-candles and a red
ceiling. Ultimately it would contain a grand piano, a Yamaha
concert organ, a large gong, an ornate wooden sleigh chair,
an upright coffin topped by a stuffed owl, a sculptured
peacock, and a leopardskin rug. There was a door leading to
the hallway, and a second door [leading to the Red Room] was
covered with a beautifully-wrought reproduction of an
Egyptian sarcophagus.
Immediately behind the mummy-door was a trapdoor
leading to the basement. Upon descending it our visitor
would enter the Den of Iniquity - a room resembling a
bar, complete with counter, stools, and juke box. Later
it too would be equipped with a theater organ (the one
replaced by the more elaborate Yamaha), and still later
it would become the setting for one of the most nightmarish
features of the house: Anton proceeded to acquire
mannikins of men, women, and a child; he remolded
the faces to display expressions of lechery, drunkenness,
and despair; and behind the bar he placed a bartender
wearing a Halloween-style Devil's mask modeled after
his own face.
This melancholy museum - a drunken child sprawled
on the floor, a sailor flaunting an oversized phallus, a
young woman turning away from the counter with an
expression of grief on her face - was perhaps the first sign
that something would eventually go wrong at 6114
California Street. The rest of the house was a monument
to power, to art, to the glorification of the magnificence
and arrogance of the Prince of Darkness and his works.
Where this impressiveness was tempered, it was with
Anton's impudent brand of humor and satire - the rose
and the gas mask, stuffed rats and tombstones. But the Den
of Iniquity had nothing positive or prideful about it - it
radiated misery, callousness, broken dreams, and above
all the _Nightmare Alley_ inevitability of human failure.
Here were the ghosts of those whom Anton LaVey had seen
in poolhalls, in shabby amusement parks, on Hollywood's
"Boulevard of Broken Dreams". Here was indeed a tavern
in the City of Dreadful Night.
But in those early days of the 1950s, the Den of Iniquity
had not yet received its hideous, artificial clientele. It was
merely a room decked out in the spirit of a Gay 90s' bar,
and it was the site of many a high-spirited party. Behind
it was a smaller room - about the size of a bedroom - accented
in blue, covered with mirrors, and containing a single coffin
on a center platform. This was the Blue Room - the setting
for rituals calling for certain optical effects - and in the
1970s it too would undergo a terrible, morbid transformation.
And finally, adjacent to the Den of Iniquity, was the
innermost sanctum of the house: the Council Chamber
[named after the Council of Nine, the advisory body of the
Church of Satan]. It was painted black and was furnished
with the simplest and starkest of altars, trapezoidal in
construction. In the Council Chamber there was no place
for the drama, pyrotechnics, and musical thunder of the
main ritual chamber. Rather one sensed the silence and
serenity befitting a Holy of Holies, for here would audience
be held with the Prince of Darkness himself.
The Sun was not welcome at 6114 California Street. The
windows were all tightly shuttered or curtained, and our
visitor could lose all sense of time after a few hours within
the buildings confines. The effect was to create at once a
release from the mundane and a fortress against it. And,
as are so many houses, 6114 proved to be a map of the
psyche of its owner/creator.
In late 1959 Anton found his Vulnavia - a 17-year-old
usherette by the name of Diane Hegarty. In 1962
Anton and Carole were divorced, and shortly thereafter
Anton gave his name to Diane. Although they were not
legally married, they lived together as man and wife
for many years, and that is how she was known in the
Church of Satan.
[...]
In the early 1960s Anton began to hold what he termed
"midnight magic seminars" on Friday evenings, lecturing
on a wide variety of traditional occult and supernatural
subjects with which he had familiarized himself over the
years. These seminars eventually expanded into bi-weekly
lectures by 1968 or 1969, and their colorfulness can be
glimpsed from the handbill that described them:
* * * * *
ANTON SZANDOR LA VEY
Practicing sorcerer, High Priest of the Church of Satan,
and world renowned authority on the Black Arts
- - PRESENTS -
A series of informal lectures held each Wednesday and Thursday
night at 9:00 P.M. at 6114 California Street, San Francisco,
and covering the following subjects:
Ghosts and Hauntings: Survival after death, mediums,
spiritualism, seances, haunted houses, blighted land areas,
murder and suicide spots, psychical research methods,
spontaneous human combustion, strange disappearances,
suggested field trips, etc.
Love Potions and Monkey Glands: Eccentric sexual theories,
gland transplants, miraculous beds, recipes for elixirs, sex
changes and rejuvenation techniques, etc.
ESP and Telepathic Communication: The production,
interpretation, and continuation of dreams; teleportation,
bilocation, sensory deprivation, deja vu, telekinesis, astral
projection, dematerialization, etc.
The Triumph of Pain: Torture methods and implements,
highly inventive sado-masochistic devices and practices,
chastity belts, religious self-mutilation, beds of nails, human
pin cushions - everything from iron maidens to tight corsets!
The Magical Powers of Animals: The lore and legend of the
cat, dog, horse, snake, spider, scarab, salamander, whale;
the role of the familiar in witchcraft, animal ESP, etc.
Strange People: Bizarre and outlandish characters, hermits,
flagpole sitters, misers and string savers, crackpots, creeps,
and screwballs.
The Kingdom of Death: Strange and unusual funeral
practices, theories of heavens, hells, limbos, etc.; the shrines
of death - cemeteries, crypts, and tombs - ornate and
otherwise; lovers of the dead - necrophilia, etc.
The Vampire: The realm of the undead, Dracula and his
modern counterparts, bloodsuckers and ghouls, some
never-before-documented evidence.
Music and Magic: Strange and little-known lore on certain
musical compositions, musical pitch and corresponding
colors, the use of music in the manipulation of human and
animal behavior, etc.
Color and Its Magical Implications: Influences on the
emotions, analysis of color preferences, color organs,
healing and therapy use, how to bewitch through the
proper use of color, etc.
A Cup of Grue: Man’s fascination for the gory and horrible,
examples of grisly murders, human sacrifice, cannibalism
[with recipes], the Grand Guignol, etc. - Stay home if you
have a weak stomach!
Fortune Telling and Character Analysis: Crystal gazing,
card reading, palmistry, phrenology, tea-leaf reading,
handwriting analysis, facial expression, physical types,
glandular types, means of divination, dowsing, the Ouija
board, psychometry, etc.
Primitive Magic: Voodoo, macumba, hexes, jungle sorcery,
Jivaro head-shrinking [with instructions], zombies, etc.
Monuments to Madness: Architectural follies, outrageous
inventions, strange amusement devices, castles, labyrinths,
mazes, grotesque gardens, buildings, and dwellings of a
bizarre nature, etc.
The Werewolf: From human into animal, changelings,
leopard men, swan maidens, serpent people, man and
his choice of pets, women and their choice of furs, etc.
Semi-Authenticated Creatures: such as the abominable
snowmen, bigfoot, sasquatch, wendigo, etc.; sea serpents,
missing links, man-eating plants, unicorn, gryphon,
dragon, basilisk, roc, etc.
Freaks: The passing of the side show, anomalies and
curiosities, the strange world of sword swallowers, fire
eaters, cyclops, geeks, pinheads, Siamese twins, alligator
men, midgets, giants, fat ladies (over 400 lbs.), etc.
The Black Mass: Detailed description, the secret rites of the
Templars, Hellfire Club, Order of the Golden Dawn, Black
Order, etc.; famous practitioners - from Simon Magus to
Aleister Crowley; contemporary versions of the Black Mass.
[Note: Most lectures will be accompanied by slides
and/or demonstrations.]
* * * * *
The demonstrations were often the best part of the
lectures. Anton was not beyond calling some nervous
young man forward, making a careful examination
of the phrenological characteristics of his skull, and
solemnly pronouncing him a champion in the arts of the
bedroom. But the most notorious of the demonstrations
took place shortly after the beginning of the seminars,
during the lecture on cannibalism. A dish was duly
prepared by Diane and served to the invited guests as
"leg of human being" [supposedly acquired for the
occasion by a Berkeley physician attending the
seminars]. Genuine "long pig"? It is doubtful, if
only because the legal risks to both the physician
and the would-be cannibals seem more excessive
than the culinary delights of the experience. One
may hypothesize leg of mutton, exotic garnishments
courtesy of Diane, and the mischievous Anton
Szandor LaVey sense of humor!
The seminars attracted a loyal following, and by
the mid-sixties the core had gradually stabilized
into what Anton called his Magic Circle. It would
attract such notables as novelist Stephen Schneck
and underground filmmaker Kenneth Anger, and
it was the nucleus of what would shortly become
the Church of Satan. During this same period
Anton acquired his famous African lion Togare,
who quickly became a minor sensation throughout
both the immediate neighborhood and the city as
a whole.
And so, by a unique combination of disposition,
education, and experience, Anton LaVey had
become a practicing Master of the Black Arts,
grasping ever more boldly after knowledge that
was shunned and even feared by conventional
schools of research and philosophy. Now the year
was 1966, and his life was about to be crystallized
by a most unprecedented event - the founding of
the Church of Satan.
[...]
Michael Aquino
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An offhand guess says he means Peter Gilmore.
As if Gilmore has nothing better to do than show up and post under unknown
names....
And as if JasonJohnJingleheimerShawshank was important enough to merit his
attention.
Still waiting on that Bowflex picture (amazing how so many trolls through the
ages claim to have godly physiques but are so reluctant to show them)-
L.
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New Church of Satan
SatanicSupplies.com
Al-Jilwah Magazine
"GUlLLOTlNA" <gulll...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bless his heart! Those people born during the depression era and that grew
up during WWII did what they could to make a buck if they weren't fortunate
enough to come from wealthy families. With what little Anton LaVey had to
start with, which was really just a very good imagination and a knack for
story telling I'd say he did quite well for himself. He was one of those
self taught people who was successful at it. Sometimes people find wealth in
so many other ways than just having a nice bank account. Perhaps his organ
playing gave him the same joy and heart fluttering feelings that money gives
others. Money is needful as far as paying your debts and it can buy nice
things but it will never buy you love, respect or happiness.
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I have to think there's still some magic at that location.
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having been in there a few times, I can say that it had character and
atmosphere, but there was also (at the risk of sounding like those ghost
hunter/medium people) a strong sense of melancholy, I wouldnt say it was a as
simple as sadness or depressing, but close. It wasnt the furniture the dust,
etc, it was something intangible. Howver I believe every house has a vibration,
not just Lavey's.
I was fortunate enough to get a few good size exterior boards during the
demolition. I got them by chance during a business trip to SF when I went to
take a look if anything had changed at the BH. Imagine my surprise when I
found being demolished. And then image my delight when I was able to get a
few boards as souvenirs. I was hoping to get some of the wall murals, but no
such luck. However, I am very glad that my curiosity got the best of me that
day :)
We have already splintered one of the boards into thousands of tiny pieces
that we plan on selling as BH souvenirs on SatanShop.com very soon.
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qophn...@yahoo.com (Cindy) wrote
> Dr. A, I'm surprised to read you waxing mystical.
>All that's left of the Black House now, IMO, is memories.
>If there were not adequate energies/forces surrounding
>the house to preserve it, then chances are good what may
>be left wouldn't zap a whisker on a mouse.
Well, this opens the door to all sorts of fun topics
such as Feng Shui, shape waves, blasted heaths,
and weird locations generally. It's not "mysticism"
except to the extent that some dingbats or frauds
have occasionally exploited "haunted houses" for
spiritualist con-games, etc.
As I've said, there is lots of interesting literature in
this area, so have fun with it [and be sure to watch
over your shoulder when you're tiptoeing around a
HH at night]. BTW one of Anton's first claims to
fame in San Francisco was as a HH investigator.
"Who ya gonna call?" etc. :-)
Michael Aquino
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> As I've said, there is lots of interesting literature in
> this area, so have fun with it [and be sure to watch
> over your shoulder when you're tiptoeing around a
> HH at night]. BTW one of Anton's first claims to
> fame in San Francisco was as a HH investigator.
> "Who ya gonna call?" etc. :-)
I would think that entities and spirits that have some how been left behind
to linger are more apt to show up in ones dreams during REM.
>
> Michael Aquino
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> "Dr. Michael A. Aquino" <xe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > As I've said, there is lots of interesting literature in
> > this area, so have fun with it [and be sure to watch
> > over your shoulder when you're tiptoeing around a
> > HH at night]. BTW one of Anton's first claims to
> > fame in San Francisco was as a HH investigator.
> > "Who ya gonna call?" etc. :-)
>
> I would think that entities and spirits that have some how been left behind
> to linger are more apt to show up in ones dreams during REM.
Though I won't discount the possibility of encountering entities or
spirits during dreaming, esp. lucid dreaming... what does REM have
to do with such entities and spirits showing up?
-Douglas
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> We have already splintered one of the boards into thousands of tiny pieces
> that we plan on selling as BH souvenirs on SatanShop.com very soon.
This is pretty funny actually. Why don't you sell them by the bundle as
satanic toothpicks?
>
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"SatanicSupplies.com" wrote:
> Luci
>
> That is great...but, if I had them, I wouldn't sell them for a 3 million
> dollars. They would be worth much more to me. I feel like it would take
> away from the "sacredness" of it, if I broke it up and spread it out, shared
> it, etc.
I am not always in agreement with all the things that my husband does, as I am
sure the CoS and others are well aware. He is, however, the MAN in the cat bird
seat, and when it comes down to it, he calls the shots.
> Who knows what they did to the material after demolition,
I doubt that the demolition crew even knew what they were destroying. Most of
the 'labor' to load the dump trucks are homeless, drug addicts, winos, who will
do anything for a few extra bucks, including handing a few boards over the fence
to anyone waving money.
As to the leaders of the destruction/demolition crew, SF is a gay town, and a
gay man can get just about anything he wants, with the correct 'persuasion'. I
just don't ask about the details.
> but you've made possible these pieces to be free of that end result: (hence, a
> "living" part of the house). I believe that there is much power and mystery
> in that house, even long before LaVey.
Well, that depends upon who's version you believe. The records show that his
parents owned it, and gave it to LaVey and Diane. The 'legend' is quite
different. But who knows? SF is a very old town. It would be interesting to
see if anything was on the site before the house was built. It could have just
been a pasture. Maybe Native Americans considers the area sacred. We will
never know.
> I would have liked to have the whole house,
Wouldn't we all have, now? Please. The last I read, it would have been
impossible to even bring the house up to code, let alone restore it and have a
B&B. Imagine, a Satanic Bed & Breakfast! That is one hell of a concept. Might
make a good story (calling Kevin Filan, writer!)
> but a piece is still something.
Yes, if you don't misplace the sliver. We may 'dome' them, and make pins or
pendants out of them. But then Circe had that great idea of tooth picks. Wish
we'd thought of that earlier. Pieces too small now.
> You can use that line, if you'd like, as a sales pitch for the pieces on
> your site. All I ask for in return is a piece... ;)
Anything for you, John!
> Hail Thyself!
> John H Shaw
> New Church of Satan
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> "Balphagor" <balp...@the666club.com> wrote in message
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> > Actually, John...
> >
> > I was fortunate enough to get a few good size exterior boards during the
> > demolition. I got them by chance during a business trip to SF when I went
> to
> > take a look if anything had changed at the BH. Imagine my surprise when I
> > found it being demolished. And then imagine my delight when I was able to
> circe wrote:
>
> > "Dr. Michael A. Aquino" <xe...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20011119105140...@nso-de.aol.com...
> >
> > > As I've said, there is lots of interesting literature in
> > > this area, so have fun with it [and be sure to watch
> > > over your shoulder when you're tiptoeing around a
> > > HH at night]. BTW one of Anton's first claims to
> > > fame in San Francisco was as a HH investigator.
> > > "Who ya gonna call?" etc. :-)
> >
> > I would think that entities and spirits that have some how been left behind
> > to linger are more apt to show up in ones dreams during REM.
>
> Though I won't discount the possibility of encountering entities or
> spirits during dreaming, esp. lucid dreaming... what does REM have
> to do with such entities and spirits showing up?
>
> -Douglas
>
I figured I wouldn't get a response as you know fuck all about
magick or dreaming & it's relation to REM states.
Amazing the dumbfuck remarks coming from circe.
Now that the weekend is over and he can use the high school computer
center again, Little Johnny Shaw wrote:
>That is great...but, if I had them, I wouldn't sell them for a 3
million dollars.
Oh, fuck you. You insult and then rip off the very organization Dr.
LaVey founded and guided for over thirty years. You certainly do have
a fetish and extreme jealousy for him, but no healthy respect.
>All I ask for in return is a piece...
Can't afford to pay for one, eh? Even with all the money you got from
that "Bowflex commercial"?
Hail Satan!
RLM
Little? Listen Ron, you need to grow up. You have NO idea about me...
>
> >That is great...but, if I had them, I wouldn't sell them for a 3
> million dollars.
>
> Oh, fuck you. You insult and then rip off the very organization Dr.
> LaVey founded and guided for over thirty years. You certainly do have
> a fetish and extreme jealousy for him, but no healthy respect.
Wrong again. I respect what LaVey did, dearly. Nobody is going to deem it
otherwise, especially you. It is the current "administration" I do not
approve of and I have that right, so...fuck YOU! That is one of the reasons
I made MY OWN rendition of the Baphomet...that is one of the reasons we
started the NCoS...out of respect...we seen a NEED for an organization that
advocates most of LaVey's works, among others. You, know, Anton was NOT all
that is Satanic...Those two bitches STOLE the organization from Karla and
when the time is right, she will set things straight. Then, we will see
who's sac you're sucking on.
>
> >All I ask for in return is a piece...
>
> Can't afford to pay for one, eh? Even with all the money you got from
> that "Bowflex commercial"?
>
> Hail Satan!
>
> RLM
>
I can afford to buy YOU, but what the fuck would I do with a fat piece of
shit? Go hang out with your new fat friends at the CoS, Ron...nobody's
interested. Your constant flaming of me for reasons only you know...other
than the fact, you're obvious jealousy of me...We have a rising Satanic
Church that you could not do...my body is better than yours...your
girlfriend wants me...should I go on? Sing a song for me, boo.
Well, I think that may be in bad *taste*, no pun intended. I think that I
have settled on putting them in little glass vials that can be opened so
that the piece can be held. Still working on the packaging, it must be just
*so*
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In Youngstown, Oh. at the Arab drive-thru alcohol and beverage if you tell
them you want a toothpick holder they give you a glass stem with a little
rose and one toothpick inside that is corked at each end. Most people lose
the tooth pick and rose though and use it to smoke crack. They sell them for
$5.00 a piece and they sell quite well. I worked there for awhile.
Johnny Shawshank wrote:
>that is one of the reasons we started the NCoS...out of respect...we
seen a NEED for an organization that advocates most of LaVey's works,
among others.
Oh bullshit. I have heard that a million times. Even said it myself
for a short time when I was a young punk with much more enthusiasm
than experience.
>my body is better than yours...your girlfriend wants me...
Heh. I haven't heard anyone use that one since 8th grade.
This time last year.
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> > >my body is better than yours...your girlfriend wants me...
> >
> > Heh. I haven't heard anyone use that one since 8th grade.
So then you finally got promoted to the 9th grade "DoughBoy?"
> > Hail Satan!
> > RLM
Shut up, whore. Nobody gave you permission to speak.