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barret bonden  
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 More options Jul 17 2009, 2:31 pm
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From: "barret bonden" <supp...@networks-cc.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:31:36 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 17 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: preader tip is 2 inches too far forward
Spreader tip is 2 inches too far forward ( a replacement spreader) . How to
calculate torque at the mast brackets , and what to expect if I sail her
like this ?

I matched the holes and tip on the old spreader exactly as I drilled the new
ones. I noticed the old port spreader had more for and aft play than the
starboard. On examination this was due to wider holes for the pins ; clearly
these had worked open during 38 years. I ran the drill through more and
added some slop but was warned off adding enough, it seems. Essentially I
trusted the center points of the old spreader holes; wrong.

As I look up the mast from abeam on the port side, and hide the mast head
with the spreader, the shroud clearly runs forward to the chain plate from
the spreader, unlike the port side.( all in line there)

The pins are steel, the spreader aluminum; does the mast get a dimple if I
sail her ? Do the pins give ? Do the pins open some nice harmless slop in
the aluminum ? ( 1/8 inch thick , with welded 1/8 inch plates as support out
5 inches from the mast on the inside - so the pins go though 1/2 inch of
metal. (these spreaders are rectangular "tube" 3 inches by 1.5 by 41 inches
long))

Do I run up the mast, pull off the spreaders and drill out the holes (on a
calm day!) Is it a mistake to add more "slop" ? Do I have another made and
bring the mast down to put it on ?


 
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it's me  
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 More options Aug 11 2009, 8:02 am
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From: "it's me" <dougking...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:02:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 11 2009 8:02 am
Subject: Re: preader tip is 2 inches too far forward
On Jul 17, 2:31 pm, "barret bonden" <supp...@networks-cc.com> wrote:

This is a problem, yes. You should probably not sail the boat like
this, because the spreader angled forward instead straight athwartship
or slightly aft will push the mast out of column in the wrong
direction. Masts are generally designed to have a slight fore/aft bow,
not a aft/fore bow!

The spreader will not dimple the mast if there is a reinforcement
plate or a compression bar, as there often is in well-built boats. If
the spreader has not dimpled the mast before, it almost certainly
won't now.

Fixing it.... I would see if I could find a welder who can fix the
holes cheaper than getting a new spreader. Make a template to hold the
spreader in the position you want before drilling the holes this time.

Regards- Doug King


 
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Capt. JG  
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 More options Aug 11 2009, 1:18 pm
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From: "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:18:46 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 11 2009 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: preader tip is 2 inches too far forward
Hey Doug... how's life?

"it's me" <dougking...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:daca1ea0-b3f0-4d98-858d-fb9e28bc339c@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 17, 2:31 pm, "barret bonden" <supp...@networks-cc.com> wrote:

This is a problem, yes. You should probably not sail the boat like
this, because the spreader angled forward instead straight athwartship
or slightly aft will push the mast out of column in the wrong
direction. Masts are generally designed to have a slight fore/aft bow,
not a aft/fore bow!

The spreader will not dimple the mast if there is a reinforcement
plate or a compression bar, as there often is in well-built boats. If
the spreader has not dimpled the mast before, it almost certainly
won't now.

Fixing it.... I would see if I could find a welder who can fix the
holes cheaper than getting a new spreader. Make a template to hold the
spreader in the position you want before drilling the holes this time.

Regards- Doug King

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


 
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