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Gregory Hall

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:16:47 PM7/3/09
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"SMASHERKARL" <ka...@atheist.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Scientology has a serious problem between itself and the "wog" (non-
> Scientology) world. Scientology has very strict rules, specified by L.
> Ron Hubbard in his "Policy Letters", that the church "must follow".
> And quite a number of these policies require actions which are against
> the law, are severely frowned upon by civilized society, or both.
>
> Following Hubbard's death and David Miscavige's takeover of the
> church, the situation has only gotten worse. Miscavige has tended to
> focus his attentions toward the more disreputable plans and activities
> laid out by Hubbard, and has been darkly creative in that direction.
>
> And this is the main problem that the Church of Scientology has.
> Internally, secretly, they are compelled by Hubbard's policies and
> David Miscavige's orders to commit crimes and to treat people in quite
> despicable ways. But that makes it extremely hard to get along with
> the non-Scientology world.
>
> Now, of course, they could stop doing the illegal and the socially
> unacceptable things, but they don't think like that. Scientologists,
> you see, are superior beings. They don't mold their actions to fit
> into society. Absolutely not! Scientologists are supposed to mold
> society to be compliant with the Church of Scientology! That's what
> Hubbard taught.
>
> This is part of the Scientology Superiority attitude. They are so much
> more advanced than you. Their goals take precedence over anything you
> might be doing. They are so ethical and superior that they don't have
> to follow mere wog laws and rules. Oh yes, you are a "primitive people
> on a backward planet" and they will help you, but only if you're good
> enough to deserve their help. If not, well, you can be "disposed of
> quietly and without sorrow," according to Hubbard.
>
> Unfortunately for Scientologists, wog laws are not designed for such
> superior beings as they. While wog laws do provide recourse when
> someone lies about you, there is no recourse to stop someone who tells
> the truth about you. If someone says truthful but negative things
> about Hubbard, Miscavige, Dianetics or Scientology, wog law actually
> protects them!
>
> Wogs! It is impossible for the Church of Scientology to get along with
> them. What the church needs to get accomplished -- suppressing
> negative information, taking over school systems, taking over
> governments -- is just made so much harder by wogs! They are always
> looking over the church's shoulder, bringing up stupid rules and laws
> that say you can't do things like that. Don't they know Scientology is
> the answer to all their problems? Don't they know that all this is for
> their own good?
>
> If wogs were reasonable about all this, the Church of Scientology
> could get a lot more done! But no, the non-Scientology world keeps
> holding onto their sovereignty and their silly rights and keeps
> blocking the Church of Scientology's progress. So, obviously, to avoid
> such pesky interference, Miscavige needs to hide what he's doing.
> Obviously, Miscavige needs to be even more covert about what his
> church is actually doing.
>
> And that requires "Fair Game", the Hubbard authorization that, when
> they declare someone a "Suppressive Person", that person "[m]ay be
> deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist
> without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or
> lied to or destroyed."
>
> And, since there is no strict criteria for declaring someone a
> "Suppressive Person" -- there is no "due process", there is no defense
> -- Miscavige can, and does, declare people "Suppressive" for trivial
> reasons, or for no discernible reason at all. Then, those Suppressives
> are "fair game" for anything Miscavige wants to do.
>
> The Suppressive Person declare, combined with the "Fair Game"
> authorization, is part of what gives Scientologists and the church the
> idea that the can do anything they want to forward their plans for
> taking over the world.
>
> Understand the very root of all this trouble: The Church of
> Scientology must hide what their plans are, because those plans are
> completely unacceptable to the non-Scientology world. The Church of
> Scientology must hide what they actually do because those actions are
> often illegal or, at best, socially unacceptable. Hence, the secrecy.
> Hence the outrage when their secrets are revealed. Hence the
> harassment of critics. Hence the fear of discovery. Hence the
> draconian methods to forbid Scientologists from gathering any
> information from any source outside of the church.
>
> This isn't the first group in history to believe they are saving the
> world and, therefore, "the ends justify the means." It isn't the
> first, and it won't be the last. But, fortunately for the rest of the
> world, the evil that such groups do inevitably destroys the group.
>
> So let it be with the Church of Scientology."
>
> Posted by Just Bill

=========================================================

Balderdash! Utter nonsense. Allow me the time to prove it by the simple
expedient of substituting some words.

[REPLY]

"The leftist news media has a serious problem between itself and
the "wog" (non-news media) world. The leftist news media has very
strict rules, specified by liberals in academia", that journalists "must
follow and quite a number of these policies require actions which
are against the law, are severely frowned upon by civilized society,
or both.

Following journalism's death and President Obama's takeover of the
government, the situation has only gotten worse. Obama has tended to
focus his attentions toward the more disreputable plans and activities
laid out by Marxists, and has been darkly creative in that direction.

And this is the main problem that the leftist news media has.
Internally, secretly, they are compelled by Obama's policies and
the Democrat party's orders to commit crimes and to treat people
in quite despicable ways. But that makes it extremely hard to get
along with the non-leftist world.

Now, of course, they could stop doing the illegal and the socially
unacceptable things, but they don't think like that. Obama, Pelosi
Reid and the liberal Democrats you see, are superior beings.
They don't mold their actions to fit into society. Absolutely not!
Leftists are supposed to mold society to be compliant with
Marxist philosophy. That's what Saul Alinski taught.

This is part of the the Obama administration's attitude. They are
so much more advanced than you. Their goals take precedence
over anything you might be doing. They are so ethical and superior
that they don't have to follow mere Constitutional laws and rules.
Oh yes, you are a "greedy people in a greedy country" and
they put you in your place help you, but only if you're gullible
enough to allow them to. If not, well, you can be "disposed of
quietly and without sorrow," according to the administration.

Unfortunately for Obama and his cronies, wog laws are not
designed for such superior beings as they. While wog laws do
provide recourse when someone lies about you, there is no
recourse to stop someone who tells the truth about you. If
someone says truthful but negative things about Obama, Pelosi,
Reid or Marxism, wog law actually protects them!

Wogs! It is impossible for the Obama administration to get along
with them. What Obama needs to get accomplished -- suppressing
negative information, taking over school systems, taking over
governments -- is just made so much harder by wogs! They are
always looking over the government's shoulder, bringing up stupid
rules and laws that say you can't do things like that. Don't they
know Marxism is the answer to all their problems? Don't they
know that all this is for their own good?

If wogs were reasonable about all this, the Obama administration
could get a lot more done! But no, the non-Marxist world keeps
holding onto their sovereignty and their silly rights and keeps
blocking the Obama administration's progress. So, obviously, to
avoid such pesky interference, Obama needs to hide what he's
doing. Obviously, Obama needs to be even more covert about
what his administration is actually doing.

And that requires "the Fairness Doctrine", the Obama
authorization that, when they declare someone a "Right Winger,"
that person "[m]ay be deprived of property or injured by any
means by any leftist judge who legislates from the bench
without any regard for the Constitution, and may be tricked,
sued or lied to or destroyed."

And, since there is no strict criteria for declaring someone a
"Right Winger" -- there is no "due process", there is no defense
-- Obama can, and does, declare people "un-American" for trivial
reasons, or for no discernible reason at all. Then, those traitors
are "fair game" for anything Obama and the Marxists wants to do.

Understand the very root of all this trouble: The Obama
administration must hide what their plans are, because those
plans are completely unacceptable to the the Constitution
and capitalism. The government must hide what they actually
do because those actions are often illegal or, at best, socially
unacceptable. Hence, the secrecy. Hence the outrage when
their secrets are revealed. Hence the harassment of critics.
Hence the haste. Hence the fear of discovery. Hence the
draconian methods to forbid voters from gathering any
information about legislation that is forced down their
throats without as much as a public reading because the
press in in league with them.

This isn't the first government in history to believe they
are saving the world and, therefore, "the ends justify the
means." It isn't the first, and it won't be the last. But,
fortunately for the rest of the world, the evil that such
governments do inevitably destroys the government if not
the country.

So let it be with the Obama administration."

--
Gregory Hall


PEAT

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:50:48 PM7/3/09
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Hail Eris! On Jul 3, 5:16 pm, "Gregory Hall" wrote:
> "SMASHERKARL" wrote...
<snip many paragraphs of bad logic>

The problem with your antithesis is it's bullshit. To be precise, the
news media is no more "leftist" than it is "liberal", apart from some
commentators and journalists. Media empires are run by businessmen,
who care about exactly one thing: making obscene amounts of money.
That goes for the news media as well. The odd exception to the rule in
no way disproves it. Meanwhile, the Co$ cares about world domination.

Snarky

husk

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:13:49 PM7/3/09
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On Jul 3, 8:16 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
<snip>

>
> "The leftist news media has a serious problem between itself and
> the "wog" (non-news media) world. The leftist news media has very
> strict rules, specified by liberals in academia", that journalists "must
> follow and quite a number of these policies require actions which
> are against the law, are severely frowned upon by civilized society,
> or both.
>
> Following journalism's death and President Obama's takeover of the
> government, the situation has only gotten worse. Obama has tended to
> focus his attentions toward the more disreputable plans and activities
> laid out by Marxists, and has been darkly creative in that direction.
>
<snip>

Greg, wake up! You have in your country a leader who, while not
infallible, has the ability to unite rather than divide people. He is
the first president of the United States that has the chance to
improve the reputation of your country to the point where your
citizens will stop sewing Canadian flags to their clothing when they
travel abroad. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6666338/

You have been given a gift which most other countries will never see.
We haven't seen it since Trudeau in the seventies.

When was the last time citizens of the world thought the American
president was smarter, more ethical, or held higher morals than the
leader of their own country?

noauth

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Jul 3, 2009, 11:54:26 PM7/3/09
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Keep posting shit for brains.......

This coward and rapist has decided to defame someone named Gregory Hall (the real Gregory Hall isn't Cecil Warren, the rapist).

He's a sick little fuck with no self-respect.

It's pretty sad when a rapist is allowed to go free!

I figured out what happened to this poor boy. 50% or more of 5% of inmates are raped by the jailers.

Gregory Hall = Cecil Warren = CONVICTED RAPIST!

You've failed to register as a SEX OFFENDER. This is punishable by imprisonment!

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=35467

Call 1-888-357-7332 to report him. He lives in Islamorada, Florida.

Nomen Nescio

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:10:08 AM7/4/09
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PEAT

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:47:39 AM7/4/09
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Hail Eris! On Jul 3, 8:13 pm, husk wrote:

For that matter, when was the last time Canadians believed that? I
know Harper's an intellectual midget next to Obama....

Snarky

Hu Flung Dung

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:55:10 AM7/4/09
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PEAT, ye stinking my lord's knave, heaven truly knows that thou art as
false as hell, ye derided:

Translation: The media is leftist or rightist depending on whatever position
generates the most cash.

PEAT

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Jul 4, 2009, 4:49:20 AM7/4/09
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Which, in the past decade, has meant adopting a leftish/socially
liberalish facade over a rightist/socially conservative core.

Snarky

Roadrunner

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:13:30 AM7/4/09
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In fact the 'subject' does not at all...

RR

PEAT

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:05:04 AM7/4/09
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Hail Eris! On Jul 4, 3:13 am, Roadrunner wrote:

Hmmmm, yes, do you think you could be a little more vague?

Snarky

Roadrunner

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:46:22 AM7/4/09
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I was not vague. Not at all in fact. I talk about the subject of
Dianetics/Scientology.

RR

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