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999Vulcan

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Jul 21, 2017, 6:01:36 PM7/21/17
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How Russia Mercilessly Played Trump For A Fool

He and his coterie of idiots, nihilists, and opportunists were the perfect prey for Putin’s spell.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/how-russia-played-trump-for-a-fool

"About America, I want to say something: Every four or eight years, you elect a new president, and the president is like a virgin who must be educated in, you can say, the world. We like America because you are friendly and believe in nice things, but the Russians understand how the world works."

Const

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Jul 22, 2017, 12:08:30 AM7/22/17
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999Vulcan <z...@vulakh.us> wrote:
> How Russia Mercilessly Played Trump For A Fool

> He and his coterie of idiots, nihilists, and opportunists were the perfect prey for Putin?s spell.

> http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/how-russia-played-trump-for-a-fool

> "About America, I want to say something: Every four or eight years, you elect a new president, and the president is like a virgin who must be educated in, you can say, the world. We like America because you are friendly and believe in nice things, but the Russians understand how the world works."

Ну вот посмотри, это же perfect example of вранья.

Who invites Russian officials into the Oval Office and accidentally discloses top-secret Israeli intelligence?

И действительно, who ?
К тому времени уж два месяца было объявлено, что будут лаптопы отбирать.
Намекали, что как бы был нанесен урон тем, что раскрыли, что это Израиль
источник.
1. Каждому дебилу изначально было ясно, кто источник.
2. Раскрыл на самом деле не Трамп, а СМИ.

Опять жевание nothing-burger про встречи.

Далее, каждый, буквально каждый абзац переполнен враньем и глупостями.

При этом сухой итог состоит опять в том, что на пустом месте,
с нулем аргументации, с массой вранья, опять нанести кучу
хни про Трампа, с очевидными целями.

И человек с iq предположительно больше 100 (это будешь ты)
это всё жрет, да еще и приводит как ссылку.

Чувак, это ссылка на ОБРАТНОЕ.

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Oleg Smirnov

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Jul 22, 2017, 4:40:03 AM7/22/17
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999Vulcan, <news:dcfefe61-2ae9-41c2...@googlegroups.com>

> How Russia Mercilessly Played Trump For A Fool
>
> He and his coterie of idiots, nihilists, and opportunists were the perfect
> prey for Putinā?Ts spell.
>
> http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/how-russia-played-trump-for-a-fool
>
> "About America, I want to say something: Every four or eight years, you
> elect a new president, and the president is like a virgin who must be
> educated in, you can say, the world. We like America because you are
> friendly and believe in nice things, but the Russians understand how the
> world works."

http://tinyurl.com/ydfybbft

.. One of the most common tropes in US media is that the US military always
goes to war reluctantly - and, if there are negative consequences, like
civilian deaths, it's simply a matter of bumbling around without much plan or
purpose.

This framing serves to flatter two sensibilities: one right and one vaguely
left. It satisfies the right-wing nationalist idea that America only goes to
war because it's compelled to by forces outside of its own control; the
reluctant warrior, the gentle giant who will only attack when provoked to do
so. But it also plays to a nominally liberal, hipster notion that the US
military is actually incompetent and boobish, and is generally bad at
war-making. (OS: Trump is incompetent and boobish too, Obama was so too etc)

This is expressed most clearly in the idea that the US is "drawn into" war
despite its otherwise unwarlike intentions. "Will US Be Drawn Further Into
Syrian Civil War?" asked Fox News (4/7/17). "How America Could Stumble Into
War With Iran," disclosed The Atlantic (2/9/17), "What It Would Take to Pull
the US Into a War in Asia," speculated Quartz (4/29/17). "Trump could easily
get us sucked into Afghanistan again," Slate predicted (5/11/17). The US is
"stumbling into a wider war" in Syria, the New York Times editorial board
(5/2/15) warned. "A Flexing Contest in Syria May Trap the US in an Endless
Conflict," Vice News (6/19/17) added.

"Sliding," "stumbling," "sucked into," "dragged into," "drawn into": The US is
always reluctantly - and without a plan - falling backward into bombing and
occupying. The US didn't enter the conflict in Syria in September 2014
deliberately; it was forced into it by outside actors. The US didn't arm and
fund anti-Assad rebels for four years to the tune of $1 billion a year as part
of a broader strategy for the region; it did so as a result of some unknown
geopolitical dark matter. ..

In contrast, foreign policy actions by Russia are painted in diabolical and
near-omnipotent terms. "Is Putin's Master Plan Only Beginning?" worried Vanity
Fair (12/28/16). "Putin's Aim Is to Make This the Russian Century," insists
Time magazine (10/1/16). ..

ALich

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Jul 25, 2017, 5:00:02 AM7/25/17
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Oleg Smirnov пишет:

> .. One of the most common tropes in US media is that the US military always
> goes to war reluctantly - and, if there are negative consequences, like
> civilian deaths, it's simply a matter of bumbling around without much plan or
> purpose.

Это сейчас такое настроение подаётся. Ибо народ подзаебался, и тот же Трамп типа намеревается разогнать всю эту шоблу.
Поэтому "мы вынуждены воевать, а куда деваться?"

Когда ситуация была спокойнее, открыто говорилось в другом ключе.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/middleeast/cia-said-to-aid-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html
Ну да, воюем руками ребелов. А что, почему бы и нет? Вас ребелы трогают? вот и замечательно!

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