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999Vulcan
Apr 19, 2020, 9:43:47 PM4/19/20
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The malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump as potentially “the biggest game changers in the history of medicine” have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.
Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
D
Apr 19, 2020, 10:02:22 PM4/19/20
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here is another new preprint from a multinational team lead out of
Brazil. It enrolled 81 patients in a trial of high-dose chloroquine
(note: not hydroxychloroquine as this post initially stated)
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 19, 2020, 10:05:08 PM4/19/20
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On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:02:22 PM UTC-4, D wrote:
> On 4/19/2020 9:43 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > The malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump as potentially “the biggest game changers in the history of medicine” have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.
> >
> > Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
> >
> > In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
>
> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
Нет
> On 4/19/2020 9:43 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > The malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump as potentially “the biggest game changers in the history of medicine” have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.
> >
> > Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
> >
> > In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
>
> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
D
Apr 19, 2020, 10:16:58 PM4/19/20
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On 4/19/2020 10:05 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/long-island-doctor-tries-new-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients/
>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with
Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he
treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion.
Bye, Anatol
Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 19, 2020, 10:21:48 PM4/19/20
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On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>
> Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with
> Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he
> treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion.
А какая, говорите, у нас выживаемость вообще без всякого лечения?
>
> Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with
> Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he
> treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion.
Const
Apr 19, 2020, 10:58:32 PM4/19/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump as potentially ?the biggest game changers in the history of medicine? have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.
> Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
> In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
И ты считаешь, что это всё плохо ?
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> The malaria drugs touted by President Donald Trump as potentially ?the biggest game changers in the history of medicine? have received a decidedly more sober assessment of their coronavirus-fighting potential from researchers in China, France and Brazil.
> Chloroquine and its close relative hydroxychloroquine offered signs that they may ease some of the hallmark symptoms of coronavirus infection in patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19. But the drugs largely failed to deliver improvements on other key measures when evaluated in rigorous research studies.
> In research done in France, hydroxychloroquine reduced neither deaths nor admissions to intensive care units among patients who received it. In a study conducted in China and another in Brazil, the two drugs failed to help patients clear the coronavirus faster.
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Apr 19, 2020, 10:58:33 PM4/19/20
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Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 19, 2020, 10:59:21 PM4/19/20
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Apr 19, 2020, 11:08:32 PM4/19/20
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Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 19, 2020, 11:13:05 PM4/19/20
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On 4/19/2020 11:06 PM, Const wrote:
> Dmitry Krivitsky <kr...@fido.fw.nu> wrote:
>> On 4/19/2020 10:56 PM, Const wrote:
>>> Dmitry Krivitsky <kr...@fido.fw.nu> wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with
>>>>> Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he
>>>>> treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion.
>>>
>>>> А какая, говорите, у нас выживаемость вообще без всякого лечения?
>>>
>>> In the nursing homes ?
>
>> Да.
>
> 0% ?
Пруф?
> Dmitry Krivitsky <kr...@fido.fw.nu> wrote:
>> On 4/19/2020 10:56 PM, Const wrote:
>>> Dmitry Krivitsky <kr...@fido.fw.nu> wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Mohammud Alam, an infectious disease specialist affiliated with
>>>>> Plainview Hospital, said 81 percent of infected covid patients he
>>>>> treated at three Long Island nursing homes recovered from the contagion.
>>>
>>>> А какая, говорите, у нас выживаемость вообще без всякого лечения?
>>>
>>> In the nursing homes ?
>
>> Да.
>
> 0% ?
Const
Apr 19, 2020, 11:28:32 PM4/19/20
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Да каждый твой пост.
Например, всё твоё, что выше.
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nsn
Apr 20, 2020, 1:52:29 AM4/20/20
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D написал:
20% таки заморил, изверг.
>
>
> Bye, Anatol
>
>
> Bye, Anatol
D
Apr 20, 2020, 9:20:24 AM4/20/20
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On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
> A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
> treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
> treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
https://lenta.ru/articles/2020/04/20/covid_chronicles/
Сколько из «аппаратных» больных будет успешно с ИВЛ снято, зависит не
только от нашего мастерства, но и от чего-то еще. Не оставляет ощущение,
что мы по-прежнему двигаемся к кащеевой игле коронавируса на ощупь,
впотьмах. Поражение легких совсем не похоже на обычные наши вирусные, и
уж тем более бактериальные пневмонии. Это не стандартный ОРДС [острый
респираторный дистресс-синдром — жизнеугрожающее воспалительное
поражение легких], и привычные схемы не работают. Многие пытаются,
опираясь на свой опыт, адаптировать его к новым реалиям, но насколько
будет каждый из них успешен в этом — не скажет никто. Все ищут. Весь
мир. И китайцы, и итальянцы, и американцы, и мы.
Видимо, из спектра новых средств офф-лейбл мы будем использовать
гидроксихлорохин и тоцилизумаб. Оба препарата уже прошли второй этап
клинических исследований (на людях), показали свою эффективность,
близится третий этап — мультицентровое исследование. Имея второй этап,
мы можем их использовать, не опасаясь потом обнаружить, что вводили не
полезное лекарство, а вредное, такое бывало (бывало такое, правда, и с
препаратами, прошедшими все этапы исследований, но нечасто).
Сегодня впервые вводил тоцилизумаб. Женщина сорока с лишним лет,
заразилась, по-видимому, от коллег на работе. Дома — дочь с внуком, тоже
кашляют, но переносят не очень тяжело. Женщина плачет, просит написать
дочери, понимает, что дело плохо. После подтверждения ПЦР — комиссия,
которая решает, можно ли вводить каждому конкретному пациенту эти
препараты. У них много побочек, которые сами могут сгубить пациента,
если назначать лекарства, не обращая внимания на сопутствующие заболевания.
Комиссия решает вводить тоцилизумаб. Препарат дорогой, но в данных
реалиях на цену уже не обращаем внимания, основное — помочь, а не
навредить пациенту. Иду в красную зону, препарат уже передали туда, он
лежит в холодильнике: строгий температурный режим, это моноклональное
антитело. Вскрыл самоотстреливающиеся шприцы тоцилизумаба и ввел их в
пакет с физраствором, не в силах отвязаться от мысли, что сейчас,
возможно, у меня в шприце будущее этого человека. Скрестив пальцы,
ставим в инфузомат [аппарат для дозированного введения лекарства].
В действии лекарства на вирус еще много неизвестного, бывали случаи и
ухудшения состояния, очень бы хотелось этого избежать. В час, которое
капается лекарство, далеко не отходишь, смотришь на пациентку, на ее
сатурацию, мнешься у монитора. Минут пятнадцать прошло, сверхбыстрой
реакции на препарат нет, уже немножко спокойнее. Женщина лежит на
животе, ей тяжело. Опять говорит о семье, просит передать, что у нее
«корона», чтобы дочь позаботилась о себе и внуке, сдала тесты.
Лекарство закончили. Пациентка чувствует себя немного лучше, это ни о
чем пока не говорит, состояние оценивается через несколько часов, до
полусуток, и никто не сможет дать гарантию, что все пойдет хорошо: около
60 процентов легочной ткани поражено, и сколько удастся вернуть в
газообмен, неизвестно. Но уже спокойнее, уже добавилось надежды.
Георгий Малышев
Apr 20, 2020, 9:24:37 AM4/20/20
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на прикладную науку, они как, так и остались при своем презрении?
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 9:38:08 AM4/20/20
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-4, D wrote:
> On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>
> >>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
>
> > A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
> > treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> > hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
>
> Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
Vulakh не делает раздаёт медицинские советы по телевизиру
> On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
>
> >>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
>
> > A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
> > treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> > hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
>
> Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
> https://lenta.ru/articles/2020/04/20/covid_chronicles
или по интернету
а нах идут трамписты
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 9:39:58 AM4/20/20
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:24:37 AM UTC-4, Георгий Малышев wrote:
> Я вот тут намедни думал, те особо одаренные, что через губу поплевывали
> на прикладную науку, они как, так и остались при своем презрении?
> Я вот тут намедни думал, те особо одаренные, что через губу поплевывали
> на прикладную науку, они как, так и остались при своем презрении?
никто никогда не говорил, что прикладная наука никому не нужна
говорили, заниматься ей не всем интересно
как, собственно, и наукой "чистой", и, впрочем, любыми другими вещами
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 10:39:55 AM4/20/20
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:38:08 AM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-4, D wrote:
> > On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
> >
> > >>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
> >
> > > A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
> > > treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> > > hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
> >
> > Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
>
> Vulakh не делает раздаёт медицинские советы по телевизиру
"Look, I'd like nothing more than if this was somehow a miracle cure. I can't say it is, and I can't say it isn't, because it's still being tested, I am not a fucking doctor"
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-4, D wrote:
> > On 4/19/2020 10:16 PM, D wrote:
> >
> > >>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
> >
> > > A New York doctor hopes to help his elderly COVID-19 patients with a
> > > treatment plan inspired by the success tentatively being reported with
> > > hydroxychloroquine — and which he says shows promising results.
> >
> > Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
>
> Vulakh не делает раздаёт медицинские советы по телевизиру
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbwjwQ4VE
D
Apr 20, 2020, 1:39:35 PM4/20/20
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On 4/20/2020 10:39 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:
>>>>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
>>>>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
>>> Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
Tom Hanks:
his wife had such bad nausea from the anti-malaria drug
hydroxychloroquine, that at times she couldn't even walk.
...
After recovering from coronavirus, the couple returned home to Los
Angeles in late March.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/entertainment/tom-hanks-coronavirus-interview-trnd/index.html
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 1:56:45 PM4/20/20
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:39:35 PM UTC-4, D wrote:
> On 4/20/2020 10:39 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
> >>> Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
>
> Tom Hanks:
Hanks, MD?
> On 4/20/2020 10:39 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Ну уж лучше Trump, MD чем Vulakh, MD
> >>> Таки Vulakh, MD идет нах.
>
> Tom Hanks:
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Apr 20, 2020, 2:28:33 PM4/20/20
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> Hanks, MD?
DS: отсутствие мозга ?
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Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 20, 2020, 9:42:00 PM4/20/20
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On 4/20/2020 9:20 AM, D wrote:
>
> Лекарство закончили. Пациентка чувствует себя немного лучше, это ни о
> чем пока не говорит, состояние оценивается через несколько часов, до
> полусуток, и никто не сможет дать гарантию, что все пойдет хорошо: около
> 60 процентов легочной ткани поражено, и сколько удастся вернуть в
> газообмен, неизвестно. Но уже спокойнее, уже добавилось надежды.
Что ты, что ты. Это же просто простуда. Все уже переболели и не
>
> Лекарство закончили. Пациентка чувствует себя немного лучше, это ни о
> чем пока не говорит, состояние оценивается через несколько часов, до
> полусуток, и никто не сможет дать гарантию, что все пойдет хорошо: около
> 60 процентов легочной ткани поражено, и сколько удастся вернуть в
> газообмен, неизвестно. Но уже спокойнее, уже добавилось надежды.
заметили. А проклятые демократы и рептилоиды давят людей автобусами и
выдают их за жертв коронавируса. Какие такие пораженные легкие? Не
бывает никаких пораженных легких.
somnambulic
Apr 20, 2020, 9:44:38 PM4/20/20
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бабоче... тьфу братьев рептилоидов.
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 10:47:10 PM4/20/20
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Trump Recommends Kim Jong Un Try Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.facebook.com/38423635680/posts/10159219901760681
https://www.facebook.com/38423635680/posts/10159219901760681
999Vulcan
Apr 20, 2020, 10:48:09 PM4/20/20
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The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
nsn
Apr 20, 2020, 11:37:01 PM4/20/20
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Dmitry Krivitsky написал:
Хех, lenta.ru. Вот и сурковская пропаганда сгодилась. Нужда заставит калачи есть. )
SB
Apr 20, 2020, 11:38:30 PM4/20/20
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On 4/20/20 7:48 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
Твой Анди - тормоз, у нас так Обама у нас был еще больше 10 лет назад.
> The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
-СБ
YuraS
Apr 20, 2020, 11:43:20 PM4/20/20
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On 4/20/2020 10:47 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> Trump Recommends Kim Jong Un Try Hydroxychloroquine
>
> https://www.facebook.com/38423635680/posts/10159219901760681
>
Айкью, говоришь?...
> Trump Recommends Kim Jong Un Try Hydroxychloroquine
>
> https://www.facebook.com/38423635680/posts/10159219901760681
>
D
Apr 21, 2020, 12:27:04 AM4/21/20
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On 4/20/2020 9:42 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
> Что ты, что ты. Это же просто простуда. Все уже переболели и не
> заметили. А проклятые демократы и рептилоиды давят людей автобусами и
> выдают их за жертв коронавируса. Какие такие пораженные легкие? Не
> бывает никаких пораженных легких.
Про это на reddit гуляет такой текст
> Что ты, что ты. Это же просто простуда. Все уже переболели и не
> заметили. А проклятые демократы и рептилоиды давят людей автобусами и
> выдают их за жертв коронавируса. Какие такие пораженные легкие? Не
> бывает никаких пораженных легких.
Dr. Hany Mahfouz
After treating 100s of patients here in US, I think COVID-19 does not
cause severe viral pneumonia or ARDS as it was thought initially. All
the lung mechanics are intact and lung compliance on ventilator appears
normal. COVID-19 is a very nasty virus that causes unique effect as it
affects the hemoglobin molecules in the blood and that is why severe
hypoxemia and multi-organ failure develop due to a severe decrease in Hb
carrying capacity caused by binding and inhibiting the heme molecule of
the globin. And that how Hydroxychloroquine and Flaviprivir work through
inhibiting the attachment of the virus coat protein to the Porphyrin
ring molecule. Ventilations and ARDS protocols may induce
ventilator-induced lung injury rather than treating the condition. The
infiltrate on the X-ray and CT scan is caused by oxidative stress of the
accumulation of the heme extracted by the virus in the alveoli causing
chemical pneumonitis, not viral pneumonia. The virus is dependent on the
Porphyrin that is why it is more severe in men and grows faster with
glycosylated Hb and that is why it is bad in diabetics and older
patients. The higher the Hb F and A2 makes it better as there are no
Beta globin chains to attach so it is not very bad in children.
Hyperbaric oxygen and blood transfusion may transiently help. The virus
induces a condition similar to high altitude, methemoglobinemia and
carbon monoxide poisoning.
Даже не знаю к кому с этим бежать - к сетевому админу или почтовому ...
Bye, Anatol
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Apr 21, 2020, 1:28:34 AM4/21/20
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Apr 21, 2020, 1:33:34 AM4/21/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
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999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 7:34:59 AM4/21/20
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999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 7:36:39 AM4/21/20
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999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 7:38:30 AM4/21/20
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Const
Apr 21, 2020, 8:03:34 AM4/21/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> >
> > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> >
> > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
---
Const
999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 8:16:19 AM4/21/20
to
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > >
> > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
>
> > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
>
> И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
>
> ---
> Const
А ты подумай
> 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > >
> > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
>
> > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
>
> И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
>
> ---
> Const
Oh wait
Const
Apr 21, 2020, 9:13:38 AM4/21/20
to
999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > > >
> > > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> >
> > > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
> >
> > И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
> А ты подумай
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > > >
> > > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> >
> > > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
> >
> > И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
Ну надо же.
То есть, идиотизм в ответ на мое замечание написал ты,
а подумать надо мне.
> Oh wait
Что, таки чего-то дошло ?
---
Const
999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 9:21:55 AM4/21/20
to
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> > >
> > > > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
> > >
> > > И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
>
> > А ты подумай
>
> Ну надо же.
> То есть, идиотизм в ответ на мое замечание написал ты,
> а подумать надо мне.
уже не надо
> 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-4, Const wrote:
> > > > > 999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > The thought of a brain dead President with nuclear weapons... oh wait (c) Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > До чего же неприятные дурачки - это пц какой-то.
> > >
> > > > The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
> > >
> > > И твой придурок Боровиц написал oh wait зачем именно ?
>
> > А ты подумай
>
> Ну надо же.
> То есть, идиотизм в ответ на мое замечание написал ты,
> а подумать надо мне.
> > Oh wait
>
> Что, таки чего-то дошло ?
что тебе думать нечем
SB
Apr 21, 2020, 1:07:45 PM4/21/20
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-СБ
999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 3:33:44 PM4/21/20
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999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 3:40:31 PM4/21/20
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A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
SB
Apr 21, 2020, 7:28:39 PM4/21/20
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On 4/21/20 12:40 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
>
Иди выпей очиститель для аквариума. Будешь в своем репертуаре.
> A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
>
-СБ
999Vulcan
Apr 21, 2020, 7:52:36 PM4/21/20
to
SB
Apr 22, 2020, 4:33:04 PM4/22/20
to
-СБ
D
Apr 22, 2020, 5:50:55 PM4/22/20
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On 4/21/2020 3:40 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
>
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/04/22/meflochin/
> A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
>
Предварительные исследования в России препарата от малярии «Мефлохин»
против коронавируса показали положительные результаты. Об этом заявили в
Федеральном медико-биологическом агентстве (ФМБА).
Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях. У 78 процентов
пациентов со средне-тяжелым состоянием на фоне лечения мефлохином
«отмечается положительная клиническая динамика, регресс или стабилизация
изменений в легочной ткани».
Мефлохин полностью блокировал развитие цитопатического действия нового
коронавируса SARS-CoV-2 и привел к элиминации вирусной РНК на 5-е - 7-е
сутки. Отмечается удовлетворительная переносимость препарата и
отсутствие серьезных побочных эффектов со стороны органов зрения и
центральной нервной системы.
Уточняется, что эти данные сопоставимы с результатами, ранее
опубликованными китайскими учеными.
Bye, Anatol
D
Apr 22, 2020, 5:55:10 PM4/22/20
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On 4/22/2020 5:50 PM, D wrote:
> Предварительные исследования в России препарата от малярии «Мефлохин»
> против коронавируса показали положительные результаты. Об этом заявили в
> Федеральном медико-биологическом агентстве (ФМБА).
>
> Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях. У 78 процентов
> пациентов со средне-тяжелым состоянием на фоне лечения мефлохином
> «отмечается положительная клиническая динамика, регресс или стабилизация
> изменений в легочной ткани».
А вот и свистун+импичмент очередной:
> Предварительные исследования в России препарата от малярии «Мефлохин»
> против коронавируса показали положительные результаты. Об этом заявили в
> Федеральном медико-биологическом агентстве (ФМБА).
>
> Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях. У 78 процентов
> пациентов со средне-тяжелым состоянием на фоне лечения мефлохином
> «отмечается положительная клиническая динамика, регресс или стабилизация
> изменений в легочной ткани».
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/rick-bright-barda-trump-coronavirus/index.html
The director of the office involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine
says he was abruptly dismissed from his post in part because he resisted
efforts to widen the availability of a coronavirus treatment pushed by
President Donald Trump.
Dr. Rick Bright had led BARDA, the Biomedical Advanced Research and
Development Authority, since 2016 until Tuesday, when was reassigned to
a narrower position. He also announced he will file a whistleblower
complaint with the Department of Health and Human Services' inspector
general.
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 22, 2020, 6:00:45 PM4/22/20
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"Достоверные выводы об эффективности и безопасности мефлохина для лечения коронавируса будут сделаны ФМБА России до 20 мая."
вот пусть 20 мая и приходят, вместе посмеемся
а пока читаем тут
The headline of the Russian state media outlet RIA Novosti read, “Russia Created the Treatment for Coronavirus.” The article went on to boast about the remedy based on the drug mefloquine, an antimalarial drug created in fact at the U.S. Army’s Walter Reed Medical Center shortly after the Vietnam War and widely known as Lariam.
Mefloquine was created to replace chloroquine, another anti-malarial, which was President Donald Trump’s recent drug of choice in his dubious battle against COVID-19. It is still prescribed in many countries to prevent and treat malaria, but it is known to have severe and sometimes shocking side effects. A study conducted from 2001-2003 “confirmed mefloquine's potential for causing psychological illness.”
Facing a wave of ridicule in social media, Russian state media changed the headline, which now reads: “Russia Offered a Drug for Treating the Coronavirus.”
999Vulcan
Apr 22, 2020, 6:20:24 PM4/22/20
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ну
трамп мд в полный рост
и парад деплорабл жополизов
D
Apr 22, 2020, 6:38:56 PM4/22/20
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On 4/22/2020 6:20 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
>> The director of the office
Ну ты все понял?
>> The director of the office
> трамп мд в полный рост
> и парад деплорабл жополизов
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 22, 2020, 6:43:41 PM4/22/20
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 6:38:56 PM UTC-4, D wrote:
> On 4/22/2020 6:20 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> >> The director of the office
>
> Ну ты все понял?
> On 4/22/2020 6:20 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:
> >> The director of the office
>
> Ну ты все понял?
нет, ничего не понял
ну, т.е. понял, что трампу нужен был блицкриг над коронавирусом, который democratic hoax, science be damned
> > трамп мд в полный рост
>
> > и парад деплорабл жополизов
>
> Ты читал книгу жены Ландау, как его лечили?
я читал только Майю Бессараб, но уже не помню особо
а что там у жены?
999Vulcan
Apr 22, 2020, 11:15:07 PM4/22/20
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"The Fox News star Laura Ingraham relentlessly promoted the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, calling it “a game changer.” But after a month of coverage, she stopped discussing the drug on the air."
Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 22, 2020, 11:52:58 PM4/22/20
to
On 4/22/2020 5:50 PM, D wrote:
>
>
> Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях.
То есть, контрольной группы нет.
Лженаука и жульничество.
D
Apr 23, 2020, 12:18:28 AM4/23/20
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On 4/22/2020 11:53 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
>> Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях.
>
> То есть, контрольной группы нет.
> Лженаука и жульничество.
А что такое "контрольная группа"? Это пациенты, которым лекарств не
>> Испытания проводились на 347 инфицированных людях.
>
> То есть, контрольной группы нет.
> Лженаука и жульничество.
давали и оставили умирать?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/coronavirus-ventilator-patients-die/index.html
Nearly all Covid-19 patients put on ventilators in New York's largest
health system died, study finds
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 24, 2020, 12:49:59 PM4/24/20
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FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after ‘serious poisoning and death’ reported
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/fda-issues-warnings-on-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-after-serious-poisoning-and-death-reported.html
The Food and Drug Administration warned consumers Friday against taking malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 outside a hospital or formal clinical trial setting after “serious” poisoning and deaths were reported.
The agency said it became aware of reports of “serious heart rhythm problems” in patients with the virus who were treated with the malaria drugs, often in combination with antibiotic azithromycin, commonly known as a Z-Pak. It also warned physicians against prescribing the drugs to treat the coronavirus outside of a hospital.
“Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia,” the agency wrote in the notice. “We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information.”
The peer-reviewed Journal of the American Medical Association released a new study Friday that said researchers cut short a study testing chloroquine as a potential treatment for Covid-19 over safety concerns, citing a “primary outcome” of death. Some patients developed irregular heart rates and nearly two dozen of them died after taking doses of the drug daily.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/fda-issues-warnings-on-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-after-serious-poisoning-and-death-reported.html
The Food and Drug Administration warned consumers Friday against taking malaria drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 outside a hospital or formal clinical trial setting after “serious” poisoning and deaths were reported.
The agency said it became aware of reports of “serious heart rhythm problems” in patients with the virus who were treated with the malaria drugs, often in combination with antibiotic azithromycin, commonly known as a Z-Pak. It also warned physicians against prescribing the drugs to treat the coronavirus outside of a hospital.
“Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia,” the agency wrote in the notice. “We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information.”
The peer-reviewed Journal of the American Medical Association released a new study Friday that said researchers cut short a study testing chloroquine as a potential treatment for Covid-19 over safety concerns, citing a “primary outcome” of death. Some patients developed irregular heart rates and nearly two dozen of them died after taking doses of the drug daily.
999Vulcan
Apr 24, 2020, 12:51:11 PM4/24/20
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Trump comments prompt doctors, and Lysol, to warn against injecting disinfectants
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump
After a presentation Thursday that touched on the disinfectants that can kill the novel coronavirus on surfaces and in the air, President Trump pondered whether those chemicals could be used to fight the virus inside the human body.
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” Trump said during Thursday’s coronavirus press briefing. “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets inside the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”
The question, which Trump offered unprompted, immediately spurred doctors, lawmakers and the makers of Lysol to respond with incredulity and warnings against injecting or otherwise ingesting disinfectants, which are highly toxic.
“My concern is that people will die. People will think this is a good idea,” Craig Spencer, director of global health in emergency medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center, told The Washington Post. “This is not willy-nilly, off-the-cuff, maybe-this-will-work advice. This is dangerous.”
а давайте заслушаем начальника жополизательного цеха!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump
After a presentation Thursday that touched on the disinfectants that can kill the novel coronavirus on surfaces and in the air, President Trump pondered whether those chemicals could be used to fight the virus inside the human body.
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute,” Trump said during Thursday’s coronavirus press briefing. “And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets inside the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”
The question, which Trump offered unprompted, immediately spurred doctors, lawmakers and the makers of Lysol to respond with incredulity and warnings against injecting or otherwise ingesting disinfectants, which are highly toxic.
“My concern is that people will die. People will think this is a good idea,” Craig Spencer, director of global health in emergency medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center, told The Washington Post. “This is not willy-nilly, off-the-cuff, maybe-this-will-work advice. This is dangerous.”
а давайте заслушаем начальника жополизательного цеха!
SB
Apr 24, 2020, 1:21:01 PM4/24/20
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Const
Apr 24, 2020, 6:03:38 PM4/24/20
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after ?serious poisoning and death? reported
Надо же.
Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
---
Const
> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after ?serious poisoning and death? reported
Надо же.
Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
---
Const
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Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 24, 2020, 7:43:13 PM4/24/20
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(Кстати, тебе уже сообщали, что не тридцать, а больше.)
D
Apr 24, 2020, 7:54:42 PM4/24/20
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On 4/24/2020 7:43 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>
>> Надо же.
>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>
> Тридцать лет вызывали.
Hydroxychloroquine
>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>
>> Надо же.
>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>
> Тридцать лет вызывали.
Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause
irreversible damage to the retina of your eye.
Tylenol
An overdose of acetaminophen can damage your liver or cause death.
И чего теперь? Смотри за принимаемой дозой.
Bye, Anatol
Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 24, 2020, 8:51:26 PM4/24/20
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On 4/24/2020 7:54 PM, D wrote:
> On 4/24/2020 7:43 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
>
>>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>>
>>> Надо же.
>>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>>
>> Тридцать лет вызывали.
>
> Hydroxychloroquine
> Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause
> irreversible damage to the retina of your eye.
...seizures, stopping of breathing, and heart problems such as
> On 4/24/2020 7:43 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
>
>>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>>
>>> Надо же.
>>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>>
>> Тридцать лет вызывали.
>
> Hydroxychloroquine
> Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause
> irreversible damage to the retina of your eye.
ventricular fibrillation...
> И чего теперь?
Теперь - не говорить, что тридцать лет ничего не вызывали. Казалось бы,
очень просто.
Const
Apr 24, 2020, 9:33:41 PM4/24/20
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sergiy...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Надо же.
> > Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
> ну я так понял некоторые слепли
> >
> > Надо же.
> > Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
А тут аритмия.
---
Const
D
Apr 24, 2020, 9:58:33 PM4/24/20
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On 4/24/2020 8:51 PM, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:
>>>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>>>
>>>> Надо же.
>>>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>>>
>>> Тридцать лет вызывали.
>>
>> Hydroxychloroquine
>> Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause
>> irreversible damage to the retina of your eye.
>
> ...seizures, stopping of breathing, and heart problems such as
> ventricular fibrillation...
Но не death, как у обычного безрецептного тайленола
>>>>> FDA issues warnings on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine after
>>>>> ?serious poisoning and death? reported
>>>>
>>>> Надо же.
>>>> Тридцать лет ничего не вызывали, а тут на тебе, вызывают.
>>>
>>> Тридцать лет вызывали.
>>
>> Hydroxychloroquine
>> Taking hydroxychloroquine long-term or at high doses may cause
>> irreversible damage to the retina of your eye.
>
> ...seizures, stopping of breathing, and heart problems such as
> ventricular fibrillation...
Bye, Anatol
999Vulcan
Apr 24, 2020, 9:58:40 PM4/24/20
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Dmitry Krivitsky
Apr 24, 2020, 10:01:29 PM4/24/20
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Ты умеешь жить не дыша и с неработающим сердцем?
999Vulcan
Apr 24, 2020, 10:04:22 PM4/24/20
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SB
Apr 25, 2020, 4:07:53 AM4/25/20
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похоже, что все просто: жена нашла удобный повод отравить мужа и
изобразить дурочку.
-СБ
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