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999Vulcan
Feb 18, 2018, 11:01:30 AM2/18/18
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Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
[]
But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
That one’s not from the Mueller indictment, though—it is from the Twitter account of Donald Trump.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
[]
But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
That one’s not from the Mueller indictment, though—it is from the Twitter account of Donald Trump.
SB
Feb 18, 2018, 11:58:10 AM2/18/18
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-СБ
Alexei Rezanov
Feb 18, 2018, 12:19:33 PM2/18/18
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On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
>
> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>
> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>
> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
>
> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>
> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>
> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
показателем русскости, а не, условно скажем, альпийской швейцарскости
или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
> But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
>
> After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
> That one’s not from the Mueller indictment, though—it is from the Twitter account of Donald Trump.
часто. Не бухал бы - так и не стал бы терять время на этот подмозговой
высер.
nsn
Feb 18, 2018, 3:49:29 PM2/18/18
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18 февраля 2018 г. Alexei Rezanov написал:
> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
> >
> > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
> >
> > My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >
> > We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
>
> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> показателем русскости, а не, условно скажем, альпийской швейцарскости
> или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
>
> > But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
> >
> > After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
>
> Сказано конечно кривовато, но что здесь именно русского?
Наверное, History с большой буквы. Это очень по-русски...> > Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
> >
> > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
> >
> > My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >
> > We are currently reaching out to local activists and we’ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
>
> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> показателем русскости, а не, условно скажем, альпийской швейцарскости
> или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
>
> > But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
> >
> > After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
>
> Сказано конечно кривовато, но что здесь именно русского?
Alexei Rezanov
Feb 18, 2018, 5:29:01 PM2/18/18
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Но пусть нам Вулах разъяснит.
CN
Feb 18, 2018, 6:53:49 PM2/18/18
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подумал, что это про трампа.
Const
Feb 19, 2018, 12:54:52 AM2/19/18
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Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
> >
> > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
> >
> > My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >
> > We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
> > Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
> >
> > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
> >
> > My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >
> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> показателем русскости, а не, условно скажем, альпийской швейцарскости
> или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
> > But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
> >
> > After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
> Сказано конечно кривовато, но что здесь именно русского?
> В общем, бездоказательная херня как, увы, у тебя в последнее время
> часто. Не бухал бы - так и не стал бы терять время на этот подмозговой
> высер.
---
Const
Sergey Kubushyn
Feb 19, 2018, 1:19:01 AM2/19/18
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https://www.gazeta.ru/comments/column/bovt/11654419.shtml
Хоть и газета.вру, но написано хорошо и правильно.
И чтоб два раза не вставать, всем отмороженным, у которых есть что-то
"единственно правильное" -- врут _ВСЕ_ без исключения. И фокс тоже. Хоть и
намного меньше чем какой, прости г-ди, ЦэЭнЭн. Но врут все по-разному. И
более-менее близкую к реальности информация можно получить только путём их
сравнения и анализа. Для чего нужен мозг и умение им мыслить. Что, увы,
делает этот метод непригодным для стадающих айкю -- у них и мозга-то нет, не
говоря уже об умении им мыслить. У них айкю...
И, как верхний пилотаж, информация часто заключена не в том, что они
по-всякому врут, а в том, о чём они молчат.
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Alexei Rezanov
Feb 19, 2018, 1:38:16 AM2/19/18
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On 02/18/2018 21:54, Const wrote:
> Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
>> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
>>> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
>>>
>>> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>>>
>>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>>>
>>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
>
>> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> Что именно тебя резануло ?
Ну хотя бы "What do you think about that?". В данном контексте ухо
> Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
>> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
>>> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the American election.
>>>
>>> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>>>
>>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>>>
>>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
>
>> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> Что именно тебя резануло ?
хотело услышать "of that". Опять же фраза с "and we?ve got the folks"
кроме лишнего the какая-то вся кривая. Вместо folks who are okay
ожидалось is. И дры.
Хочу подчеркнуть: я в грамматике не силен, и не то что оно неправильно -
просто люди которых я слышу вокруг, так не говорят. Отсюда впечатление
акцента, но не факт что русского. И вообще, см мой коммент ниже:
>> показателем русскости, а не, условно скажем, альпийской швейцарскости
>> или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
>
>>> But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
>>>
>>> After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
>
>> Сказано конечно кривовато, но что здесь именно русского?
>
>>> That one?s not from the Mueller indictment, though?it is from the Twitter account of Donald Trump.
>
>> В общем, бездоказательная херня как, увы, у тебя в последнее время
>> часто. Не бухал бы - так и не стал бы терять время на этот подмозговой
>> высер.
>
> Я че-то вообще не вижу русских оборотов.
А про это пусть нам знатный лингвист Вулкан расскажет.
>> или незалежно-кошерной литовскости?
>
>>> But perhaps the most egregious example of non-native English to come out of the Russia investigation is this tweet:
>>>
>>> After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters - worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.
>
>> Сказано конечно кривовато, но что здесь именно русского?
>
>>> That one?s not from the Mueller indictment, though?it is from the Twitter account of Donald Trump.
>
>> В общем, бездоказательная херня как, увы, у тебя в последнее время
>> часто. Не бухал бы - так и не стал бы терять время на этот подмозговой
>> высер.
>
> Я че-то вообще не вижу русских оборотов.
Алексей Иванов
Feb 19, 2018, 1:40:06 PM2/19/18
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On 02/19/2018 09:19 AM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
> Рекомендую:
>
> https://www.gazeta.ru/comments/column/bovt/11654419.shtml
>
> Хоть и газета.вру, но написано хорошо и правильно.
Как и положено кустарю-одиночке, Кубушин на редкость наивен.
> Рекомендую:
>
> https://www.gazeta.ru/comments/column/bovt/11654419.shtml
>
> Хоть и газета.вру, но написано хорошо и правильно.
Вот: "Как из Путина лепят Югурту":
https://kornev.livejournal.com/505396.html
Написано 15 месяцев назад, когда сложно было даже представить, что амеры
покрошат пару сотен тех его сограждан, которые, вместо чтоб наводить
порядок у _себя_ дома, воспитывать своих детей, а не делать их сиротами,
отправились зачем-то к асаду.
Теперь и их вдовами, и воспитанием их детей, ставшими сиротами
займутся другие.
--
Алексей Иванов
CN
Feb 19, 2018, 7:12:30 PM2/19/18
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On 2/18/2018 10:38 PM, Alexei Rezanov wrote:
> On 02/18/2018 21:54, Const wrote:
>> Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
>>> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
>>>> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the
>>>> American election.
>>>>
>>>> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from
>>>> the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>>>>
>>>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the
>>>> folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost
>>>> everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you
>>>> think about that? Are you in?
>>
>>> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
>> Что именно тебя резануло ?
> Ну хотя бы "What do you think about that?". В данном контексте ухо
> хотело услышать "of that". Опять же фраза с "and we?ve got the folks"
> кроме лишнего the какая-то вся кривая. Вместо folks who are okay
> ожидалось is. И дры.
Это все мелочи. С about тоже говорят, да реже, да разница есть, но она
> On 02/18/2018 21:54, Const wrote:
>> Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
>>> On 02/18/2018 8:01, 999Vulcan wrote:
>>>> Russian operatives used some very Russian English to meddle in the
>>>> American election.
>>>>
>>>> https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/russian-operatives-used-some-very-russian-english-to-meddle-in-the-american-election.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from
>>>> the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
>>>>
>>>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the
>>>> folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost
>>>> everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you
>>>> think about that? Are you in?
>>
>>> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
>> Что именно тебя резануло ?
> Ну хотя бы "What do you think about that?". В данном контексте ухо
> хотело услышать "of that". Опять же фраза с "and we?ve got the folks"
> кроме лишнего the какая-то вся кривая. Вместо folks who are okay
> ожидалось is. И дры.
несущественна. Я посмотрел на "русские" твиты от NBC (они опубликовали
десятки тысяч их в одном документе), и совершенно очевидно, что русские
сидящие в офисе в петербурге не могли написать все это. Это настолько
выше любого уровня преподавания английского. Это могли написать люди,
прожившие десятилетия в штатах или Канаде. Человек двадцать таких, на
полный рабочий день в течение полугода. И нас ходят убедить, что такая
группа людей сидела в питере на зарплате у кровавой гебни? Приезжала
каждый день в офис на троллейбусе?
Эти претензии к недостаточно литературному английскому настолько мелки,
что как раз доказывают, что это писали не иностранцы. Типа "они пишут
could of, вместо правильного could have, явно русские". Извините, но
такую ошибку может сделать как раз только нативный американец, который
воспринимал язык на слух, а не через учителя. "Они пропускают артикли"-
вы вообще в курсе, что в твиттере лимит на количество символов, и он
буквально приучает опускать артикли даже если все сообщение влезает? Ну
и так далее.
Const
Feb 20, 2018, 4:14:18 AM2/20/18
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Alexei Rezanov <gdet...@gdetotam.org> wrote:
> >>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >>>
> >>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
> >
> >> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> > Что именно тебя резануло ?
> Ну хотя бы "What do you think about that?". В данном контексте ухо
> хотело услышать "of that".
Нет, нифига подобного оно не хотело услышать.
> >>> My favorite bit of Englussian from the Mueller indictment comes from the same fake Florida resident I mentioned earlier:
> >>>
> >>> We are currently reaching out to local activists and we?ve got the folks who are okay to be in charge of organizing their events almost everywhere in FL. However, we still need your support. What do you think about that? Are you in?
> >
> >> Мда. Пара оборотов конечно резанули, но как например "about that" служит
> > Что именно тебя резануло ?
> Ну хотя бы "What do you think about that?". В данном контексте ухо
> хотело услышать "of that".
Приведенный вариант абсолютно и легален, и общеупотребим
(вместе с about it).
Более того, в приведенном контексте более правильно about.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-%E2%80%98What-do-you-think-of%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98What-do-you-think-about%E2%80%99
> Опять же фраза с "and we?ve got the folks"
> кроме лишнего the какая-то вся кривая.
И the не лишнее, и фраза ни в малейшей степени не кривая.
Попросту нет ничего, вообще.
> Вместо folks who are okay
> ожидалось is. И дры.
> > Я че-то вообще не вижу русских оборотов.
> А про это пусть нам знатный лингвист Вулкан расскажет.
Const
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