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⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn

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Mar 7, 2022, 12:08:56 PM3/7/22
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Ukraine’s Jewish history may be prologue, but it’s not destiny

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ukraines-jewish-history-may-be-prologue-but-its-not-destiny/

Though my family has always identified as proudly Litvish, meaning that
we come from areas where the Litvish dialect of Yiddish was spoken, but
I cannot recall any of that pride being set aside for the nations of
Belarus or Lithuania.

These were lands we left for good reason.[]

If not for Hitler and the Nazis, there is every reason to think that
Petliura and the Ukrainian nationalists would be the central emblem for
evil in Jewish collective memory.

And yet, Nazism did come, and it found a willing collaborator in
Petliura’s heirs. []

It is no surprise that many Jews’ first instincts toward Ukraine’s
latest push for independence were skeptical. But though past is
prologue, it is not fate.[]

Pew Polls on antisemitism in Europe have routinely found Ukraine among
the least antisemitic countries in Europe (far lower than neighboring
Russia).[]

And Ukrainian voters are not only voting against antisemites, but they
are also actively voting for Jews. President Volodomyr Zelensky, whose
heroic leadership has impressed the world, is a Jew. The former Prime
Minister Volodomyr Groysman is a Jew as well. In neither’s campaigns did
their opponents use antisemitism against them, despite a political
culture in Ukraine that all too willingly plays dirty. To the contrary,
the only attention the media played to Zelensky’s Jewishness was to
criticize him for not being sufficiently involved in commemorations for
the Babi Yar massacres. Antisemitism still exists in Ukraine, as it does
in most countries. But all signs point to it being a minimal force in
Ukrainian life. Ukraine has reinvented itself, reborn again without any
Khmelnytsky, Petliura or Bandera, without the overwhelming antisemitism
that has so long animated its national movement.

One of the most sacred rights is the right to self-improvement, to be
better today than you were yesterday. It is a right that exists for
individuals and for communities. Ukraine has seized that right fully, if
imperfectly, committing itself to be a better land than the one our
ancestors left. Damn Putin for trying to take that away.

YuraS

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Mar 7, 2022, 12:53:30 PM3/7/22
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On 3/7/2022 12:08 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
> Ukraine’s Jewish history may be prologue, but it’s not destiny
>
> https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ukraines-jewish-history-may-be-prologue-but-its-not-destiny/
>
>
> Though my family has always identified as proudly Litvish, meaning that
> we come from areas where the Litvish dialect of Yiddish was spoken, but
> I cannot recall any of that pride being set aside for the nations of
> Belarus or Lithuania.
>
> These were lands we left for good reason.[]
>
> If not for Hitler and the Nazis, there is every reason to think that
> Petliura and the Ukrainian nationalists would be the central emblem for
> evil in Jewish collective memory.
>
> And yet, Nazism did come, and it found a willing collaborator in
> Petliura’s heirs. []
>
> It is no surprise that many Jews’ first instincts toward Ukraine’s
> latest push for independence were skeptical. But though past is
> prologue, it is not fate.[]
>
> Pew Polls on antisemitism in Europe have routinely found Ukraine among
> the least antisemitic countries in Europe (far lower than neighboring
> Russia).[]
>
> And Ukrainian voters are not only voting against antisemites, but they
> are also actively voting for Jews. President Volodomyr Zelensky, whose
> heroic leadership has impressed the world, is a Jew. The former Prime
> Minister Volodomyr Groysman is a Jew as well. In neither’s campaigns did

А чего так застенчиво? Теперишний премьер, а также министр обороны -
тоже таки да.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn

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Mar 7, 2022, 1:00:50 PM3/7/22
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вот мне его (минобороны) глазёнки тоже красивыми показались=)

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