диклайн 2020 06

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ybc3mq4z

Zimbabwe, accused of orchestrating George Floyd protests

Zimbabwe summoned the U.S. ambassador Monday over remarks by a
senior American official accusing the southern African country
of stirring anti-racism protests ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

America isn't breaking. It was already broken ..
Look at America today and you see a land defined by death. People
are dying alone in hospital beds and bedrooms. They're dying in the
streets. They're dying inside as the economy collapses around them and
their hopes for tomorrow evaporate. They're dying because they can't
breathe. .. The reasons are too numerous, the enemies too powerful ..
There is no way to escape the American carnage unfolding across the
nation .. America will still exist, of course, but only as a place
rather than a promise. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/ybjont3j )

[Oleg Smirnov]

Already reeling from the coronavirus pandemic and unemployment levels not
seen since the Great Depression, cities across the United States smoldered
on Tuesday after a seventh consecutive night of protests and civil unrest
.. There is growing concern that the economic damage to many of the
communities where violence is taking place will persist long after the last
window pane is replaced .. Businesses and neighborhoods where protests have
turned violent will have to contend not just with the aftermath of the
protests, but with multiple aggravating factors that will make recovery
even more difficult. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/ya7p5ygw )

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:03:29 PM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> America isn't breaking. It was already broken ..

Hi KGB troll,

Are you paid hourly rate or per message?

Andrew

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 7:03:33 PM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Already reeling from the coronavirus pandemic and unemployment levels not
> seen since the Great Depression, cities across the United States smoldered
> on Tuesday after a seventh consecutive night of protests and civil unrest

Hello KGB troll again,

What is Putin's net worth today?

Andrew

[Const]

Какие всё же восхитительные костики.

Нет, ну серьезно, это ж один из плюсов всех этих ковидок и бунтов.
Что люди натурально могут видеть WHO YOU ARE.

Кремлевский тролль Смирнов, цитирующий не просто любимые
костиковы газеты, но просто его сокровенные мысли -
это на самом деле дорогого стоит.

И это ведь не случайность.
Это вот только за последнюю неделю где-то пятый раз.

Опять же, изумительная статья.
Совершенно типичная для костиков.
Там по два вранья в _каждом_ предложении.

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Const

[Oleg Smirnov]

The American empire is in decay, but that doesn't mean things can't get
worse .. Each new day sees another chunk of flesh torn from the face
the nation shows the world .. The capital is literally on fire, but the
responses of both the president and the liberal establishment suggest
that things will likely get worse .. ( http://tinyurl.com/ya9dgrwl )

[Oleg Smirnov]

We've seen plenty of riots in America in the last few decades. But this
latest unrest, coming as it does in the middle of an ongoing global health
crisis and a concomitant economic recession, feels more devastating.
America is sick .. We've seen the same sad story play out many times.
This time might be different, however. There's a fresh nihilism to these
riots that feels almost irresistible. .. This American carnage isn't
stopping. The country isn't well. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/yd2t8qc6 )

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

Please explain it:

> There's a fresh nihilism to these riots that feels almost irresistible.

In your own words, no copy/paste.

Andrew

[Oleg Smirnov]

I think what we're seeing is a country coming apart for real. ..
In short, America is not new to violent clashes between enraged
citizens and the state. / So are these new protests any different? Now
is different - America has deep structural problems .. While the U.S.
remains the world's preeminent economic and military power, internally
it's bedevilled by a host of problems that just keep getting worse. ..
While these protests may eventually dissipate, the underlying reasons
that gave rise to the tensions are not going away any time soon .. In
short, the abyss beckons. ( http://tinyurl.com/yae7jl3m )

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

No response as expected. Do you you even comprehend what you are posting? You should enroll with your friend Danilov into his KGB ESL class.

Andrew

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y8r458hr

America is in terminal decline ..

Even before the Covid-19 pandemic, the US was in economic trouble. Since
the GFC their central bank had been deploying a loose and distorting
monetary policy while the federal government was running unsustainable
deficits. Their last budget surplus was under President Clinton in 2001
and their debt-to-GDP ratio has soared past 100 percent in the last year.

In response to the pandemic the deficit was pencilled to hit $4 trillion,
20 per cent of their annual GDP, and this does not include all the
trillions of printed cash the Federal Reserve has been pouring into the
financial system. .. An economy fuelled by deficits and devaluing the
monetary base will eventually collapse. ..

Compounding the economic and public health crisis, America is now in the
grip of the worst bout of rioting since 1968. Many state governments lost
control of their central business districts last week and 40 cities
imposed curfews; most of them proving unenforceable. .. America's
political leadership is equally dismal. ..

What matters is that we are seeing an empire in decline. ..

...

[somnambulic]

но безработные таки получают пособие 2х зарплаты врача в россии. не
говоря о том сколько получают собственно врачи. короче пиздец америке.

[999Vulcan]

это статья новозеландцев
они очень переживают за америку, потому что не хотят ложиться под китай
а смирнов - хочет

[somnambulic]

так я и говорю что сидоров совсем берега потерял.

[999Vulcan]

тем временем маркет is close to all time high и О. рвёт волоса на жопе

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ycg5v54n

Uncle Sam is broke ..
The economic meltdown caused by COVID-19 has left millions of Americans
financially dependent on one or more federal programs. .. Even in good times,
millions of Americans lived paycheck to paycheck. On losing their jobs, they
had little else to sustain them. ..

During the longest economic boom in our history, which COVID-19 quickly ended,
our leaders never came close to balancing the budget; instead, they piled
more debt on us than can ever be repaid. The United States' 2020 fiscal year
deficit pre-COVID-19 would have topped $1 trillion, bringing our national
debt into the $23 trillion range, larger even than our world-leading GDP ..

We had better not plan on the federal government bailing any of us out in
future emergencies. In the next crisis the feds may not be able to borrow
enough money to help everyone who needs it. At some point, they won't even be
able to sustain safety net programs. .. The only real security for any of us
is in personal self-reliance .. Our federal government is broke ..

...

[Oleg Smirnov]

somnambulic, <news:rbglh9$8pg$1...@dont-email.me>

попрыгай

[999Vulcan]

так неправильно

правильно - так:

ешь ананасы, рябчиков жуй

[somnambulic]

сначала сделай так чтобы зарплаты в россии были хотя бы как пособие в
умирающей америке.

[999Vulcan]

Смирнов просто не понимает, что даже самый зивановский нищеброд (типа меня :) в России мог бы жить как король, ни для в своей жизни больше не работая

все эти пугалки про америку он может засунуть в жопу тем негодяям, у которых кроме патриотизма за душой так ничего и не появилось

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yd3ok7gd

CNBC Makes Up V-Shaped Charts To Support False Claims Of Economic Recovery

That graph is straight out of How to Lie With Charts http://amzn.to/2Y8ZDXZ
or similar books .. A huge drop in the number of employed followed by a much
smaller increase is mangled into a graph that somehow shows a V. ..

.. Real plot of the (un-)employment numbers .. http://tinyurl.com/yd3ok7gd

The U.S. economy is down by 50% http://bit.ly/2Ucir7F . Many of the recently
lost jobs will not come back. Any hyping of a V-shape recovery only prevents
that Congress takes the necessary measures ..

...

Things aren't good, and it will be worse ..

[D]

On 6/6/2020 4:32 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:



> даже самый зивановский нищеброд (типа меня :) в России мог бы жить как король, ни для в своей жизни больше не работая

антисемиты заставили бы работать.


Bye, Anatol

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

> America is in terminal decline ..

Dear KGB troll,

You have to be very careful what you wish for. Imagine, that overnight America is gone, like Atlantida. This is the worst nightmare for Russia. It will have to deal with China alone and it has no chance to survive.

Andrew

[Const]

999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > так я и говорю что сидоров совсем берега потерял.

> тем временем маркет is close to all time high и О. рвёт волоса на жопе

Товарищ, all-time high - это значит, что я в нулях остался.
Что, конечно, просто невероятное разочарование.
Все эти смерти, вся эта чехарда, вся эта безработица,
все эти погромы - и всё напрасно ...

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Const

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y72whn2d

I'm very worried. .. It's going to be very difficult. I don't even
necessarily assume I'll see it remedy in my lifetime. But I do think that
the starting point is true. It's brutal honesty about how we got to this
point about events in American history that led us here, especially you
know, corruption over the last 40 years, the erosion of the social safety
net, broad assaults on democracy, whether the illicit war in Iraq or the
financial crisis after which, no one was really punished. ..

One of the things I brought up were legal studies from about a decade ago
saying that even quid pro quo corruption has no meaning here. That we
essentially live in a lawless land in the wild Midwest. And now that kind
of corruption, that kind of entrenched criminality within the system in
which those with power and money can get away with almost anything. That
is the way of the land, you see it in so many states, it's not universal.
It's not completely consolidated, but it is the ideal situation for people
involved in white collar crime, organized crime, money laundering, or for
political parties ..

...

America is a corrupt nation of evil, its decline is a good for the world.

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y9bkgpno

.. You must understand the relevant facts. And the most relevant fact
is that America's criminal justice system is rotten to its core. .. If
America is burning, it is fair to say that America's criminal justice
system - which is itself a raging dumpster fire of injustice - lit the
fuse. ..

I see three fundamental pathologies in America's criminal justice
system that completely undermine its moral and political legitimacy ..
Those three pathologies are: (1) unconstitutional overcriminalization;
(2) point-and-convict adjudication; and (3) near-zero accountability for
police and prosecutors. ..

[999Vulcan]

мы все скорбим вместе с тобой

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yas6vdv9

What’s striking here is not that business interests are so nakedly
opportunistic — that’s an old story — but rather how readily they flush
their individualist, anti-government principles down the commode the
minute they’re no longer convenient. / If you’ve been paying attention
since about 1980, you’re doubtless familiar with that most sacred tenet
of American capitalism, that private corporations operate optimally only
when freed from the oppressive hand of government .. Until, of course,
business needs a government lifeline. History is replete with examples
of people who vilify government one minute and line up for government
handouts the next, often because of a crisis that the victims themselves
create .. As soon as this crisis passes, the flaw will be tossed down
the memory hole .. That will allow Wall Street to bray again about
Herculean job creators battling tyrannical government ..

...

Nationalization-collectivization of risks vs. privatization of profits.

Capitalism has died.

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

> Capitalism has died.

Where do I get my communist freebies?

Nowhere?

Go fuck yourslelf, you lying KGB troll. And don't forget to nationalize Putin's 200 billions dollars.

Andrew

[Const]

Прямо чистый Костик.
Аж сердце поет.

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Const

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yc779lrd

Widespread unemployment and economic hardships from COVID-19 will create
a credit crisis .. Our citizens will soon run severely short on lines of
credit. ..

The coming credit crunch will be unprecedented in magnitude. It threatens
to trigger a tsunami of delinquent debt, bankruptcies and foreclosures
that will overwhelm our courts and undermine our communities and
financial institutions, delaying economic recovery even longer. Tens of
millions of low- and middle-income families could be decimated. ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

South Korea and the United States both confirmed their first COVID-19
cases on January 20. But the two countries' outbreaks have since diverged
radically. The United States continues to record roughly 20,000 new cases
per day. Five months into the pandemic, the United States has achieved
the largest case count and death toll (now well over 100,000 deaths) in
the world. The crisis has brought large sectors of the economy to a
standstill and forced 40 million workers to file for unemployment. The
disease is moving rapidly into rural areas, ravaging meatpacking plants
and long-term care facilities. .. How has the world's richest country ..
produced one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world? Why is the
United States, accustomed to seeing itself as the leader of the developed
world, lagging so badly behind its peers? .. The catastrophic U.S.
response to COVID-19 is not primarily the result of scientific or medical
deficiencies. Rather, it is the product of an insularity in U.S. politics
and culture. .. The persistent refusal of U.S. leadership - and society at
large - to learn from the rest of the world .. bodes ill for the future. ..
( http://tinyurl.com/yd297jgu )

...

Things are not good, and the future is ill.

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ycmm4qoz

.. A government in free fall

Although President Trump has proclaimed himself to be the "president of law
and order," in fact he has shown himself in the last week to be incapable of
understanding the language of leadership .. He generally seems intent on
stirring hatred rather then working to address the underlying problems. He
appears to believe that this is a political opportunity rather than a
national concern. / No one really expected much more from the president. ..
But so much is occurring today that is inexplicable in terms of the history
of our constitutional structure. We may be headed toward an unfortunate and
potentially depilating reordering of our form of national government. ..

...

So not only the infrastructure in America is crumbling.

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yb9ct8wr

It's official: The U.S. entered a recession ..

The unprecedented magnitude of the decline in employment and production ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

The fact is .. we have socialized the risks of capitalism, to
the benefit of a small portion of the country, while a larger
portion struggles ( http://tinyurl.com/smwobfa )

How America is reverting back to the feudal age .. In recent
decades this country has begun to show signs of growing
feudalization .. where income growth has skewed dramatically
towards the ultra-rich .. The ultra-rich represent an emergent
global aristocracy .. In the United States, the richest 400 US
citizens now have more wealth than 185 million of their fellow
Americans combined. ( http://tinyurl.com/tc83bk3 )

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ycntonwh

A Crash in the Dollar Is Coming

The world is having serious doubts about the once widely accepted
presumption of American exceptionalism. .. The era of the U.S. dollar's
"exorbitant privilege" as the world's primary reserve currency is coming
to an end. .. Already stressed by the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic,
U.S. living standards are about to be squeezed as never before. ..

But the coming collapse in saving points to a sharp widening of the
current-account deficit, likely taking it well beyond the prior record of
-6.3% of GDP that it reached in late 2005. Reserve currency or not, the
dollar will not be spared under these circumstances. The key question is
what will spark the decline? ..

Like Covid-19 and racial turmoil, the fall of the almighty dollar will
cast global economic leadership of a saving-short U.S. economy in a very
harsh light. ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y8sl92o4

.. The Failed American Experiment

The failure of empire is a dead certainty. There is no reversing this,
however long and messy the collapse will prove, and long and messy are
about it. Imperial decline is to be celebrated without reservation.

This waning of American authority is now starkly evident across both
oceans. .. These are excellent developments. Who would have guessed
that our tragic failures at home would precipitate our worthy-of-
applause failures abroad? At this point, it is to be noted, the two are
inseparable. ..

Does anyone think our decadent leadership is capable of reconstituting
this presumption? Out of the question, given our national pose was
bogus from the first. This is what makes ours a turning point. .. This
appears to be a river crossing from which there can be no turning back.
.. The world will continue watching as we thus compound our failures ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

.. America already had a teacher shortage going into 2020, and the
coronavirus pandemic made the issue much, much worse. .. Teacher
shortages across the country .. Even if the state and local governments
manage to get back to pre-pandemic employment levels, it's "still
significantly below where they should have been to keep up with student
enrollment," .. "local systems are experiencing great difficulty
locating certified teachers .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y8z7qumh )

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y98zlj7b

We Are Living in a Failed State

The coronavirus didn't break America. It revealed what was already broken.
When the virus came here, it found a country with serious underlying
conditions, and it exploited them ruthlessly. Chronic ills - a corrupt
political class, a sclerotic bureaucracy, a heartless economy, a divided
and distracted public - had gone untreated for years. We had learned to live,
uncomfortably, with the symptoms. It took the scale and intimacy of a
pandemic to expose their severity ..

Every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find
themselves citizens of a failed state. With no national plan - no coherent
instructions at all .. When test kits, masks, gowns, and ventilators were
found to be in desperately short supply .. Civilians took out their sewing
machines to try to keep ill-equipped hospital workers healthy and their
patients alive. Russia, Taiwan, and the United Nations sent humanitarian aid
to the world's richest power - a beggar nation in utter chaos. ..

...

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ybvvwnu2

U.S. economy won't recover pandemic losses until 2030

[D]

On 6/9/2020 12:31 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/ybvvwnu2
>
> U.S. economy won't recover pandemic losses until 2030

Путин не доживет ...


Bye, Anatol

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y7zwwg2l

.. The era of white supremacy is now burning out in America and across
the world. After three centuries as the major operating system for Western
predominance, white supremacy is now being rendered obsolete. Together,
demographics, technological change, and popular resistance are working to
shape a new world order. ..

We are moving through a new gate in history. Accelerated by the impact of
the COVID-19 pandemic, the United States is now undergoing a political
revolution that will likely spread across post-industrial economies around
the world. .. American Spring .. Much as the Arab Spring, social media is
providing a platform for coordination ..

This "American Spring" is being underwritten by a cluster of technologies
with a unique capacity for horizontal diffusion and cross-fertilization.
As technological change accelerates structural transformation in American
society, it opens the way to social upheaval .. Demography is destiny. ..
The dominant story of America as an exclusive annex of European
civilization is now coming to an end. .. This new story will be determined
by a new generation of Americans whose histories are varied and complex ..

Propelled by the forces of history, the Millennial generation and Gen Z
are now rising to positions of moral authority even as the institutional
foundations of the country have all but collapsed. .. Notwithstanding the
hard struggle that lies ahead, the decline of the present order also
represents a new beginning. Beyond an era characterized by white supremacy,
government disfunction, and environmental collapse, we are witnessing the
emergence of a new American revolution. ..

...

Aмepикaнcкaя вecнa нacтупaeт.

[Oleg Smirnov]

China has become an even bigger US import source post-COVID ..
Cargo from China is accounting for an even greater share of
inbound container volumes than before the coronavirus crisis,
according to new customs data. .. Demand for Chinese goods has
also caused rates to surge .. ( http://tinyurl.com/yc54nw9b )

[Oleg Smirnov]

All six of Israel's leading universities have declined over the
last year, according to the latest edition of the annual QS World
University Rankings. .. The rankings showed a collective decline
for American universities, too, with 112 of 153 institutions
falling in the index and only 34 recording improvements. ..
Meanwhile, a record 26 Asian universities were ranked among the
top 100 institutions. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/ycyj322p )

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y85bmv7c

What have we done with America? Over the decades we have consented,
passively for the most part, to a kind of change that has made this country
a disappointment to itself ..

Much American unhappiness has arisen from the cordoning-off of low-income
workers from the reasonable hope that they and their children will be fairly
compensated for their work .. Workers' real wages have fallen for decades in
America. This is rationalized by the notion that their wages are a burden
on the economy, a burden in our supposed competition with China ..

The terrible joke is that American workers have been competing against
expatriated American capital .. New factories .. tend to be built elsewhere.
And .. workers in China sleep in factory dormitories. .. The message being
communicated to our workers is that we need poverty in order to compete
with countries for whom poverty is a major competitive asset. ..

...

Я, помнится, формулировал это всё два года назад https://bit.ly/2XQ3ydf

Американский верхний класс обогащает себя за счёт высокодоходных инвестиций
в китайскую рабочую силу и другую азию-африку, при этом объяснимо уходит во
всёвозрастающий отрыв от местного нижнего класса. При этом стандарты жизни
американского нижнего класса становятся всё ближе и ближе к остальному миру.
Капиталистическая жадность поднимает мир за счёт большинства населения США.

Но националистическая пропаганда США поддерживает образ самой и богатейшей
страны мира. Это идёт по инерции, но чем дальше, тем со всё возрастающим
искажением реальности. Для нижнего класса это всё более теряет адекватность,
и пресловутые deaths of despair - одно из выражений протеста снизу против
такого положения дел, и оно дает вклад и в уличную протестную активность.

Тaк, и пpaвый Тpaмп c aнти-китaйcким зaдopoм, и текущие pacoвo-лефтиcтcкие
riots в кopне - кpoме aмеpикaнcкoгo pacизмa кaк тaкoвoгo - cвязaны c oдним и
тем же бaзoвым пpoтивopечием, oтмеченным выше.

Чтoбы aмеpикaнcкий веpхний клacc мoг беcпpoблемнo oбoгaщaтьcя дaльше, нaдo
изменить тoн дoмaшней пpoпaгaнды, oткaзaтьcя oт нappaтивa "мы бoгaче вcех" и
индoктpиниpoвaть нacеление нa мaлые, cкpoмные зaпpocы.

[Oleg Smirnov]

The Looming Bank Collapse
The U.S. financial system could be on the cusp of calamity. This time,
we might not be able to save it. ..
You may think that such a crisis is unlikely, with memories of the 2008
crash still so fresh. But banks learned few lessons from that calamity,
and new laws intended to keep them from taking on too much risk have
failed to do so. As a result, we could be on the precipice of another
crash, one different from 2008 less in kind than in degree. This one
could be worse. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y8x3rm6u )

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y8mwkne9

The Trump Regime Is Beginning to Topple

What the United States is witnessing is less like the chaos of 1968,
which further divided a nation, and more like the nonviolent movements
that earned broad societal support in places such as Serbia, Ukraine,
and Tunisia, and swept away the dictatorial likes of Milosevic,
Yanukovych, and Ben Ali. ..

"Obedience is at the heart of political power." A dictator doesn't
maintain power on his own; he relies on individuals and institutions to
carry out his orders. A successful democratic revolution prods these
enablers to stop obeying. It makes them ashamed of their complicity and
fearful of the social and economic costs of continued collaboration. ..

Each instance of resistance provides the model for further resistance.
As the isolation of the dictators grows - as the inner circles of power
join the outer circle in withholding cooperation - the regime crumbles.

This is essentially what transpired in Ukraine in 2014. ..

Тaк-тo.

[999Vulcan]

а ты не иди учиться в University of Wyoming

4 из top 4 - американские

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2021

в прошлом году было 4 из top 5, калтек продвинулся

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

[Oleg Smirnov]

https://tinyurl.com/ycoyad4x

American Cities Becoming 'A Big Toilet' For Lack Of Public
Restrooms Amid COVID-19 .. Over the past months of COVID-19
lockdowns across nearly all states .. America has seen a rise
in public urination. .. The New York Post this week describes
this rising phenomenon .. the Big Apple is now 'the Big Toilet'.

.. On the one hand public urination remains a minor offense
punishable with a small fine .., and on the other people remain
skittish about using potentially germ-infested public toilets.
.. So often the only "safe" option is to pee on the street or
in an alley .. No doubt this is an increasing conversation
nationally .. Meanwhile in New York and other major cities,
there's growing concern over foul and rank smelling streets as
more and more people - not just the homeless - do their business
outside. ..

[Const]

Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/ycoyad4x

> American Cities Becoming 'A Big Toilet' For Lack Of Public
> Restrooms Amid COVID-19 .. Over the past months of COVID-19
> lockdowns across nearly all states .. America has seen a rise
> in public urination. .. The New York Post this week describes
> this rising phenomenon .. the Big Apple is now 'the Big Toilet'.

Чего ж тут нового.
Об этом еще Токарев пел.
Мочой воняло на Манхеттене везде и всегда.
Дополнительно говном половина мидтауна воняла отродясь.

> nationally .. Meanwhile in New York and other major cities,
> there's growing concern over foul and rank smelling streets as
> more and more people - not just the homeless - do their business
> outside. ..

Это уже ахинея, разумеется.

---
Const

[Oleg Smirnov]

https://tinyurl.com/yd8bm6dq

The Coming Collaps

We must invest our energy in building parallel, popular institutions to
protect ourselves and to pit power against power. These parallel institutions,
including unions, community development organizations, local currencies,
alternative political parties and food cooperatives, will have to be
constructed town by town. The elites in a time of distress will retreat to
their gated compounds and leave us to fend for ourselves. Basic services, from
garbage collection to public transportation, food distribution and health
care, will collapse. Massive unemployment and underemployment, triggering
social unrest, will be dealt with not through government job creation but the
brutality of militarized police and a complete suspension of civil liberties.
.. The dollar will stop being the world’s reserve currency, causing a steep
devaluation. Banks will close. Global warming will extract heavier and heavier
costs, especially on the coastal populations, farming and the infrastructure,
costs that the depleted state will be unable to address. The corporate press,
like the ruling elites, will go from burlesque to absurdism, its rhetoric so
patently fictitious it will, as in all totalitarian states, be unmoored from
reality. ..

It is impossible for any doomed population to grasp how fragile the decayed
financial, social and political system is on the eve of implosion. All the
harbingers of collapse are visible: crumbling infrastructure; chronic
underemployment and unemployment; the indiscriminate use of lethal force by
police; political paralysis and stagnation; an economy built on the
scaffolding of debt; nihilistic mass shootings in schools, universities,
workplaces, malls, concert venues and movie theaters; opioid overdoses that
kill some 64,000 people a year; an epidemic of suicides; unsustainable
military expansion; gambling as a desperate tool of economic development and
government revenue; the capture of power by a tiny, corrupt clique;
censorship; the physical diminishing of public institutions ranging from
schools and libraries to courts and medical facilities; the incessant
bombardment by electronic hallucinations to divert us from the depressing
sight that has become America and keep us trapped in illusions. We suffer the
usual pathologies of impending death. ..

...

[Oleg Smirnov]

https://tinyurl.com/ybd3f4rn

Annual deficit hits $1.9 trillion in just eight months

The deficit in the first eight months of the 2020 fiscal year hit
a record $1.9 trillion, surpassing the largest annual deficit on
record, $1.4 trillion in 2009. .. The huge rise in borrowing in
recent months has come in response to the coronavirus pandemic ..
The overall level of debt the government owes is set to surpass
annual economic output this year for the first time since World War
II, and is likely to break records in the coming years.

[Oleg Smirnov]

Const, <news:v9jarg-...@news.russian-z1.org>

Вот же дебил.

Не ахинея, разумеется.

[whoishac...@gmail.com]

Excellent, let's sell this script to Hollywood as the next zombie apocalypse/mad max movie and make tons of money.

Andrew

[Const]

Друг мой, я, в отличие от тебя, хожу по этим городам.
Своими собственными ногами.
Ну, не в последние 3-4 месяца, конечно.

Я тебе совершенно точно могу сказать, американские города,
в массе своей не таковы.
Ну, в Сиэттле да, действительно было чутка больше чем надо бомжей
и да, действительно временами попахивало мочой.
Other than that - no, это просто неправда.

Нью-Йорк - прискорбное исключение.
Ну и не только в этом, конечно.
Это вообще какая-то чудовищная помойка, невероятная совершенно.

---
Const

[Const]

Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/yd8bm6dq

> The Coming Collaps

> We must invest our energy in building parallel, popular institutions to
> protect ourselves and to pit power against power. These parallel institutions,
> including unions, community development organizations, local currencies,
> alternative political parties and food cooperatives, will have to be

Бля, ну прямо в точности как старина Безменов рассказывал.
А костики повторяют.

---
Const

[Const]

Ай беда.
А тебе ни на что не хватает.
И доктора зарабатывают меньше бомжей.
Обидно, да ?

---
Const

[D]

On 6/12/2020 10:29 PM, Const wrote:


> Нью-Йорк - прискорбное исключение.
> Ну и не только в этом, конечно.
> Это вообще какая-то чудовищная помойка, невероятная совершенно.

Сан-Франциско тоже помойкой стал.


Bye, Anatol

[Const]

Э, ну там-то хоть местами красиво.

---
Const

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y7flz48n

US household net worth falls by trillions of dollars in historic decline
Americans' net worth plummeted in the first quarter by the largest amount
in recorded history.

According to data from the U.S. Federal Reserve Board of Governors released
on Thursday, net worth for households and nonprofits fell by $6.55 trillion
during the first three months of the year to $100.8 trillion.

That marks the largest drop since the central bank began recording the data
in 1952. .. More than 43 million Americans have filed unemployment claims
since mid-March. ..

...

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/ya2lxhjr

Young U.S. Men Having a Lot Less Sex in the 21st Century ..
Sexual activity among young American men has declined sharply
since 2000, with nearly a third reporting no sex with a partner in
the prior year .. The survey found that from 2000 to 2018, nearly
one in three U.S. men aged 18 to 24 reported no sexual activity in
the past year. Lack of sexual activity, or sexual inactivity, was
also on the rise among men and women aged 25 to 34 years during
the survey period .. Possible reasons for the decline in sexual
frequency may also include stress of juggling work and intimate
relationships, as well as the prevalence of other forms of solo
entertainment. ..

Кcтaти, тут жaлoвaлиcь чтo NYT не дaёт cебя читaть без пoдпиcки.
А пoчему тoгдa мне дaёт? Мoжет вaм cледует пpocтo куки пoдчищaть
периодически.

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yd7p3hvx

On the Future .. It Doesn't Look Good

The level of worry and disillusionment marks a unique moment in American
public life .. Polling shows the cost of constant crisis on the American
psyche .. Eighty percent of voters now believe the country is spiraling out
of control .. A third of Americans were showing signs of clinical anxiety
or depression at the end of April ..

[IL]

Soho, Chelsea, Tribeca, Village -- awesome. Best urban area in the world.

[Oleg Smirnov]

Const, <news:25pdrg-...@news.russian-z1.org>

> Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:
>> Const, <news:v9jarg-...@news.russian-z1.org>
>>> Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:

>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ycoyad4x
>>>
>>>> American Cities Becoming 'A Big Toilet' For Lack Of Public
>>>> Restrooms Amid COVID-19 .. Over the past months of COVID-19
>>>> lockdowns across nearly all states .. America has seen a rise
>>>> in public urination. .. The New York Post this week describes
>>>> this rising phenomenon .. the Big Apple is now 'the Big Toilet'.
>>>
>>> Чего ж тут нового.
>>> Об этом еще Токарев пел.
>>> Мочой воняло на Манхеттене везде и всегда.
>>> Дополнительно говном половина мидтауна воняла отродясь.
>>>
>>>> nationally .. Meanwhile in New York and other major cities,
>>>> there's growing concern over foul and rank smelling streets as
>>>> more and more people - not just the homeless - do their business
>>>> outside. ..
>>>
>>> Это уже ахинея, разумеется.
>
>> Вот же дебил.
>
>> Не ахинея, разумеется.
>
> Друг мой,

Пшёл.

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/yak6lm4d

Plus, with fears over the coronavirus still very present, many don't feel safe
going into germ-infested public restrooms. And hey, peeing in public isn't
even a crime anymore. ..

"My friends and I talk about [public urination] all of the time now," Sophia,
a 23-year-old who lives in Park Slope .. tells .. "It's a big topic. Since the
pandemic, I have done it myself in Prospect Park ..

[Данилов]

13.06.2020 9:13, Oleg Smirnov пишет:

Сёма, ты говоришь, что тебя твоя Софа не удовлетворяет. Всю Одессу
удовлетворяет, а тебя не удовлетворяет?

[Const]

У тебя что-то с головой.
Ничего более безобразного и буквально вот прямо страшного
я нигде в мире более не видел.

---
Const

[Const]

Всё-таки дебил.

---
Const

[Dmitry Krivitsky]

On 6/13/2020 2:13 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
> Кcтaти, тут жaлoвaлиcь чтo NYT не дaёт cебя читaть без пoдпиcки.
> А пoчему тoгдa мне дaёт?

КГБ подписку оформило.

[Sericinus hunter]

А в Кривом Рогу?
Но я согласен, перечисленные места так себе. А вот в Парке и вокруг мне нравится.

[Данилов]

13.06.2020 19:22, sergiy...@gmail.com пишет:

>> Кcтaти, тут жaлoвaлиcь чтo NYT не дaёт cебя читaть без пoдпиcки.
>> А пoчему тoгдa мне дaёт? Мoжет вaм cледует пpocтo куки пoдчищaть
>> периодически.
>

> смирнов даниловы готовы жрать говно периодически. ("Норма" В Сорокин)
>

Иди, хохложопый, встань на колени.

[IL]

Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
Washington Square Park. Осенью.

Ну вот где из не-субурбии лучше? Рим в районе Университета - весной.
Camden Town в Лондоне - летом. El Born в Барселоне - зимой. Navigli в
Милане, idk, тоже летом. По дороге to the Lakes.

[Const]

Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/2020 2:57 AM, Const wrote:
> > IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >> On 6/12/20 8:22 PM, Const wrote:
> >>> D <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 6/12/2020 10:29 PM, Const wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> Нью-Йорк - прискорбное исключение.
> >>>>> Ну и не только в этом, конечно.
> >>>>> Это вообще какая-то чудовищная помойка, невероятная совершенно.
> >>>
> >>>> Сан-Франциско тоже помойкой стал.
> >>>
> >>> Э, ну там-то хоть местами красиво.
> >
> >> Soho, Chelsea, Tribeca, Village -- awesome. Best urban area in the world.
> >
> > У тебя что-то с головой.
> > Ничего более безобразного и буквально вот прямо страшного
> > я нигде в мире более не видел.

> А в Кривом Рогу?

Ай, не ну ты совсем уж того, поддых бьешь.

Впрочем, да.
Даже включая Кривой Рог.

> Но я согласен, перечисленные места так себе. А вот в Парке и вокруг мне нравится.

От парка по крайней мере не тошнит.
Восторг от него, разумеется, может испытывать только загнанный
в чудовищную урбанистическую, тотально воняющую фекалиями,
жопу нью-йоркер.

И от квадрата в десять кварталов вокруг - тоже.
Но это единственное место.

Ну и да, Мет - с большим отрывом лучше всех остальных лувров
вместе взятых.

---
Const

[Const]

IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
> Washington Square Park. Осенью.

Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
а не на помойке.

> Ну вот где из не-субурбии лучше?

Буквально везде.

> Рим в районе Университета - весной.

Какого из университетов ?

> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.

Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.

> El Born в Барселоне - зимой.

Чешуя какая-то.
Что там вообще делать в той Барселоне зимой.

> Navigli в Милане, idk, тоже летом. По дороге to the Lakes.

Не понимаю я никакого Navigli.
Милан, разумеется, самый сомнительный город в Италии.

---
Const

[Sericinus hunter]

On 6/13/2020 10:26 PM, Const wrote:
> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
>
> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,

Не знаю, что такое "массовых", но наши леса совершенно точно
самые лучшие.
Я вот кажен божий день хожу и не нарадуюсь.
Лису видел. Это вообще офигеть. Дико редкий зверь.

[IL]

On 6/13/20 7:26 PM, Const wrote:
> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Суум куикве.

Так будут варианты лучше? Urban. Metrosexual. Лесов-пляжей своих хватает.

[IL]

On 6/13/20 8:23 PM, IL wrote:
> On 6/13/20 7:26 PM, Const wrote:
>> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Суум куикве.
>
> Так будут варианты лучше? Urban. Metrosexual. Лесов-пляжей своих хватает.
>
>
> Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
>>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
>>
>> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
>> а не на помойке.
>>
>>> Ну вот где из не-субурбии лучше?
>>
>> Буквально везде.
>>
>>> Рим в районе Университета - весной.
>>
>> Какого из университетов ?
>>

University of Rome.

>>> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.
>>
>> Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.
>>

Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон обощенно
помойкой.

[Const]

Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/2020 10:26 PM, Const wrote:
> > IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
> >> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
> >
> > Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,

> Не знаю, что такое "массовых", но наши леса совершенно точно
> самые лучшие.

Это леса штата Масс.

> Я вот кажен божий день хожу и не нарадуюсь.

А я забил.
Города существенно интересней.
Уже месяц не был.

> Лису видел. Это вообще офигеть. Дико редкий зверь.

Глупости какие.
Чаще сурков.
И менее пугливые.

---
Const

[Const]

IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/20 8:23 PM, IL wrote:
> > On 6/13/20 7:26 PM, Const wrote:
> >> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> >>> Суум куикве.
> >
> > Так будут варианты лучше? Urban. Metrosexual. Лесов-пляжей своих хватает.
> >
> >
> > Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
> >>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
> >>
> >> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
> >> а не на помойке.
> >>
> >>> Ну вот где из не-субурбии лучше?
> >>
> >> Буквально везде.
> >>
> >>> Рим в районе Университета - весной.
> >>
> >> Какого из университетов ?

> University of Rome.

Их буквально сотнями.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/Roma+university+of+roma+/@41.9094752,12.3959114,11z/data=!3m1!4b1

> >>> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.
> >>
> >> Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.

> Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон обощенно
> помойкой.

Я жил около Notting Hill.
И весь центральный Лондон обошел своими ногами.
Безусловно, это помойка, причем почти тотально.
Хотя и меньшего качества помойности чем NYC.
Но тоже почти везде совершенно ужасная эстетически.

---
Const

[IL]

On 6/13/20 8:43 PM, Const wrote:

>>>>> Рим в районе Университета - весной.
>>>>
>>>> Какого из университетов ?
>
>> University of Rome.
>
> Их буквально сотнями.
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/Roma+university+of+roma+/@41.9094752,12.3959114,11z/data=!3m1!4b1
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapienza_University_of_Rome

>>>>> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.
>>>>
>>>> Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.
>
>> Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон обощенно
>> помойкой.
>
> Я жил около Notting Hill.

https://www.google.com/search?q=camden+town&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk00k5RYilKjb55_5AmwM3d84orZqfA:1592107322686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijwKb7tYDqAhWhFjQIHZBFAMkQ_AUoAXoECB0QAw&biw=1680&bih=925

[SB]

On 6/13/20 7:26 PM, Const wrote:

> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
>
> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
> а не на помойке.
>
>> Ну вот где из не-субурбии лучше?
>
> Буквально везде.

Самое милое место - National Mall в Вашингтоне.

-СБ

[Const]

IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/20 8:43 PM, Const wrote:

> >>>>> Рим в районе Университета - весной.
> >>>>
> >>>> Какого из университетов ?
> >
> >> University of Rome.
> >
> > Их буквально сотнями.
> >
> > https://www.google.com/maps/search/Roma+university+of+roma+/@41.9094752,12.3959114,11z/data=!3m1!4b1

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapienza_University_of_Rome

Я в тот район как-то случайно ночью попал.
Не понимаю, что там такого особенного.

> >>>>> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.
> >>>>
> >>>> Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.
> >
> >> Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон обощенно
> >> помойкой.
> >
> > Я жил около Notting Hill.

> https://www.google.com/search?q=camden+town&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk00k5RYilKjb55_5AmwM3d84orZqfA:1592107322686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijwKb7tYDqAhWhFjQIHZBFAMkQ_AUoAXoECB0QAw&biw=1680&bih=925

And ?
Типичная ужасная страшная помойка.

---
Const

[Mikhail Kimmelman]

"Const" wrote in message news:rtjgrg-...@news.russian-z1.org...

> > > > Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон
> > > > обощенно
> > > > помойкой.
> > >
> > > Я жил около Notting Hill.

...

> And ?
> Типичная ужасная страшная помойка.

Вот у Дарсика есть симпатичная прогулка по Лондону. И кстати зимой.
https://darsik.com/travel/2019/03/idealnoe-voskresene-v-londone-gotovyj-marshrut/

Пройти по этому маршруту в Лондоне — значит, увидеть его молодым,
задорным и веселым. Здесь все, что мы любим: классные места для бранча,
винтажные магазины, цветочный рынок, уличная еда, проверенные мной
лично.
...
Один из самых классных рыночных маршрутов перед вами: мы с вами на
северо-востоке города, начнем с улицы Бродвей маркет, прогуляемся вдоль
канала Риджент, заглянем на городскую ферму, полюбуемся цветами на
Коламбия роад, а потом погрузимся в мир винтажа на рынках Бриклейн
и, если хватит сил, на Спитафилдс.

Миша

[Oleg Smirnov]

http://tinyurl.com/y79qyffn

.. America descending into a failed state ..

Friends of America are dismayed by the latest turn of events, a sign of
terminal decline of a once proud nation. Racism .. in America it's
widespread and even subconscious in the southern "slave states". .. Police
brutality, protected by qualified legal immunity, and racism have proved a
lethal cocktail in America. White knees have been on black necks for years ..

America has seen the rise of a large number of wealthy and well-organised
interest groups, corporate lobbyists and donors, who can on their own raise
nearly as much money as either one of the two main parties. .. This money
gives lobbyists far greater access to legislators .. This access was
institutionalised by the US Supreme Court in 1976 .. Money therefore can buy
votes in America, a power denied to the vast majority of the population,
thereby sustaining inequality. ..

Inequality in America has risen substantially over the past generation. The
gap between the richest and poorest in American society more than doubled
from 1989 to 2016, with deadly effects. .. The top wealthiest 1% possess 40%
of the nation's wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%. .. Inequality in wealth leads
to inequality in health. ..

America has largely surrendered its manufacturing capacity to a rival growing
power, China .. America's white working class did not educate or train itself
up the food chain ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

.. Economy Will Collapse For Real in August
Pending Catastrophe .. There's a chance that the worst of the damage caused
by the coronavirus pandemic hasn't happened yet. .. The real economic and
societal collapse could arrive in August. Part of the problem .. is that
many of the measures put in place by the U.S. government to mitigate the
coronavirus's impact will expire in August - while the actual pandemic will
likely continue to rage. The result is that unemployed Americans could once
more be vulnerable to evictions, right when federal employment payments
helping keep them afloat stop coming. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y76j4yed )

[Oleg Smirnov]

An Economic Collapse Needs a Spiritual Preparation / How will you KNOW where
to look and what to do when you face very difficult decisions and a rapidly
changing economy? Prepping is important for an economic collapse, but what
about your INTERNAL preparation to deal with the shocks of a new financial
reality? The book, Great Waves of Change, will help you spiritually prepare
for great economic, social and political changes to come so you can see the
hazards and opportunities to come... ( http://tinyurl.com/y8qsn4v8 )

[IL]

On 6/13/20 9:19 PM, Const wrote:
> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 6/13/20 8:43 PM, Const wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Рим в районе Университета - весной.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Какого из университетов ?
>>>
>>>> University of Rome.
>>>
>>> Их буквально сотнями.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/maps/search/Roma+university+of+roma+/@41.9094752,12.3959114,11z/data=!3m1!4b1
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapienza_University_of_Rome
>
> Я в тот район как-то случайно ночью попал.
> Не понимаю, что там такого особенного.
>

Шучу я. Плохо там. Наркотики продают и прочий vice.

В Риме мне в Трастевере нравится. Похоже, кстати, на СоХо.

>>>>>>> Camden Town в Лондоне - летом.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Лондон, кстати, тоже та еще ужасная помойка.
>>>
>>>> Я подозреваю что ты в Камдене и Брикстоне не был. Раз Лондон обощенно
>>>> помойкой.
>>>
>>> Я жил около Notting Hill.
>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=camden+town&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk00k5RYilKjb55_5AmwM3d84orZqfA:1592107322686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijwKb7tYDqAhWhFjQIHZBFAMkQ_AUoAXoECB0QAw&biw=1680&bih=925
>
> And ?
> Типичная ужасная страшная помойка.
>

В последние лет 10 туристи там стало. Раньше было хорошо. Музыка всякая,
Underworld Camden. Стит арт. Стрит фуд. Рынки блошиные. Сейчас Brixton,
наверное, cool. И Portobello Road, опять.

Короче, я себе везде Санта Круз нахожу :)

[Yury Mukharsky]

Как это? У нас она среди многоэтажек шарилась. Ну они, правда рядом с лесом
и не очень много-.

Юра

[Dmitry Krivitsky]

On 6/13/2020 11:37 PM, Const wrote:
> Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:
>> On 6/13/2020 10:26 PM, Const wrote:
>>> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
>>>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
>>>
>>> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
>
>> Не знаю, что такое "массовых", но наши леса совершенно точно
>> самые лучшие.
>
> Это леса штата Масс.

Нету такого штата. Есть штат Массачусетс. И леса по-русски называются
массачусетскими.

За идиотские сокращения надо убивать.

[m...@stlport.org]

Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:
>
> Не знаю, что такое "массовых", но наши леса совершенно точно
> самые лучшие.
> Я вот кажен божий день хожу и не нарадуюсь.
> Лису видел. Это вообще офигеть. Дико редкий зверь.

Лиса в городе живет без проблем. У знакомых под домом жила,
с лисятами. Ушла, как лисята подросли.
Народ лис любит, потому что те сразу
экстерминируют всех кроликов в округе.

Андрей Левочкин

[Anton Antonov]

Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:

Sh> Лису видел. Это вообще офигеть. Дико редкий зверь.

Чего в них редкого. Бегают по улицам, где могут раззоряют мусорные бачки
и весь мусор разбрасывают вокруг.

Антон

[YuraS]

Мы этого редкого зверя пару раз видели с расстояния метров в 10 прямо
между домами. А с бОльшего расстояния, так и не одного.
А уж криков по ночам наслушались...

[Sericinus hunter]

On 6/13/2020 11:37 PM, Const wrote:

> Sericinus hunter <s...@h.com> wrote:
>> On 6/13/2020 10:26 PM, Const wrote:
>>> IL <fid...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Суум куикве. Но я хотел бы пару месяцев в году жить где-нибудь рядом с
>>>> Washington Square Park. Осенью.
>>>
>>> Осенью, извиняюсь, надо быть в джерсийских или там массовых лесах,
>
>> Не знаю, что такое "массовых", но наши леса совершенно точно
>> самые лучшие.
>
> Это леса штата Масс.

А.

>> Я вот кажен божий день хожу и не нарадуюсь.
>
> А я забил.
> Города существенно интересней.
> Уже месяц не был.

Это какой-то экстрим.

>> Лису видел. Это вообще офигеть. Дико редкий зверь.
>
> Глупости какие.

Конечно. Не умности же.
А вот сколько раз, скажем, за сезон ты их видишь? Ну, порядок.
Хотя может быть. У нас лес разный. У тебя маленький и изолированный,
а кругом жилмассив, им просто деваться некуда, кроме как глаза мозолить.

> Чаще сурков.
> И менее пугливые.

Гм. Менее пугливым, чем сурок, может быть разве что бетонный столб.
Нет, лис я вижу практически всегда в состоянии очень быстрого бега.

[Sericinus hunter]

Речь про лес, а не про улицу. Еноты вот ещё реже попадаются, а на улице не фокус.

[Sericinus hunter]

В городе да, встречается чаще.

[Sericinus hunter]

А в лесу хоть раз видели?

[YuraS]

В лесу - ни разу. Но мне лень ходить по совершенно дикому лесу. А рядом
с тропами я вообще никаких зверей не видел.

[Sericinus hunter]

Так тропы же и есть в диком лесу. Разве у вас не так? Зверю абсолютно всё
равно, тропа это или нет. Ну, конечно, если народ толпами не ходит.
Я же тоже по тропам исключительно, иначе просто не пройдёшь, бурелом.