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⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn
Dec 18, 2021, 5:30:47 PM12/18/21
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Shemita: Do not become a chimpanzee
Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the bigger
picture
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends. It is
a question which goes to the heart of western civilization: “What do you
do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?” The answers we
generally get are: “I am a businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an
engineer,” or “I am a farmer,” etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a
parent,” “I am a grandparent,” “I look after my family,” or “I care for
my sick parents.” And certainly not, “I am occupied with the
deeper/religious meaning in life,” or “I am occupied with how I can
become a better, more moral person.” We answer the question with what we
do for our living. Not with what we see as our higher task in life.
This is highly symptomatic.
We are seemingly not able to surpass our job. We have been so
indoctrinated by the western idea that a human being is identified by
what he *has*, and owes, instead of what he *is* or needs to *become*.
In this instance, human beings can no longer separate themselves from
their jobs; *they are their jobs*. Therefore, freeing them from their
jobs is a traumatic experience, for this would create an identity crisis.
Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the bigger
picture
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends. It is
a question which goes to the heart of western civilization: “What do you
do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?” The answers we
generally get are: “I am a businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an
engineer,” or “I am a farmer,” etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a
parent,” “I am a grandparent,” “I look after my family,” or “I care for
my sick parents.” And certainly not, “I am occupied with the
deeper/religious meaning in life,” or “I am occupied with how I can
become a better, more moral person.” We answer the question with what we
do for our living. Not with what we see as our higher task in life.
This is highly symptomatic.
We are seemingly not able to surpass our job. We have been so
indoctrinated by the western idea that a human being is identified by
what he *has*, and owes, instead of what he *is* or needs to *become*.
In this instance, human beings can no longer separate themselves from
their jobs; *they are their jobs*. Therefore, freeing them from their
jobs is a traumatic experience, for this would create an identity crisis.
⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn
Dec 18, 2021, 5:51:31 PM12/18/21
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Chimpanzees do not have that capacity and the reason is very obvious.
When human beings drive a nail into something that will ultimately
become a chair, they do much more than just hammering the nail in the
wood. They already envision the chair, or the table at the end of the
conveyor belt—a creative human achievement!
In fact, they see much more: They see their wives, husbands and children
happy because they provide the money to make them happy. They see their
daughter getting married, they see their son studying at a yeshiva or
university. They see a beautiful synagogue/church where people can
worship owing to the money they donate, and so on.
When human beings hammer a nail in the wood, they do something
extraordinary. It is a nail with a dream for great things. And so, they
can hold out for years; the monotony is invigorated by a great vision.
*Their jobs do not define them*. The job is only a *means* to something
of infinite meaning.
But once they lose this capacity, they indeed become identical to
chimpanzees. The monotony has taken them over. There is no longer a
dream behind the nail.
YuraS
Dec 18, 2021, 9:32:12 PM12/18/21
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On 12/18/2021 5:30 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
> Shemita: Do not become a chimpanzee
>
> Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
> repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the bigger
> picture
>
> https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
>
> ...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends. It is
> a question which goes to the heart of western civilization: “What do you
> do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?” The answers we
> generally get are: “I am a businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an
> engineer,” or “I am a farmer,” etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a
> parent,” “I am a grandparent,” “I look after my family,” or “I care for
> my sick parents.” And certainly not, “I am occupied with the
> deeper/religious meaning in life,” or “I am occupied with how I can
> become a better, more moral person.” We answer the question with what we
> do for our living. Not with what we see as our higher task in life.
>
> This is highly symptomatic.
Highly symptomatic, что автор - самовлюбленный мудак.
>
> Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
> repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the bigger
> picture
>
> https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
>
> ...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends. It is
> a question which goes to the heart of western civilization: “What do you
> do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?” The answers we
> generally get are: “I am a businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an
> engineer,” or “I am a farmer,” etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a
> parent,” “I am a grandparent,” “I look after my family,” or “I care for
> my sick parents.” And certainly not, “I am occupied with the
> deeper/religious meaning in life,” or “I am occupied with how I can
> become a better, more moral person.” We answer the question with what we
> do for our living. Not with what we see as our higher task in life.
>
> This is highly symptomatic.
⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn
Dec 19, 2021, 11:26:29 PM12/19/21
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YuraS
Dec 20, 2021, 12:14:19 AM12/20/21
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ничтожные черви, думающие только о низменных деньгах. И кто как не я,
д'Артаньян на белом коне, может вам открыть истину смысла жизни?"
Разжёвывать дальше?
⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn
Dec 20, 2021, 12:19:42 AM12/20/21
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> Разжёвывать дальше?
разжевывай - может, сможешь проглотить
YuraS
Dec 20, 2021, 12:07:47 PM12/20/21
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On 12/20/2021 12:19 AM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
> On 12/20/2021 12:14 AM, YuraS wrote:
>> On 12/19/2021 11:26 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2021 9:32 PM, YuraS wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/2021 5:30 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
>>>>> Shemita: Do not become a chimpanzee
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
>>>>> repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the
>>>>> bigger picture
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
>>>>>
>>>>> ...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends.
>>>>> It is a question which goes to the heart of western civilization:
>>>>> “What do you do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?”
>>>>> The answers we generally get are: “I am a
>>>>> businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an engineer,” or “I am a farmer,”
>>>>> etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a parent,” “I am a grandparent,”
>>>>> “I look after my family,” or “I care for my sick parents.” And
>>>>> certainly not, “I am occupied with the deeper/religious meaning in
>>>>> life,” or “I am occupied with how I can become a better, more moral
>>>>> person.” We answer the question with what we do for our living. Not
>>>>> with what we see as our higher task in life.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is highly symptomatic.
>>>>
>>>> Highly symptomatic, что автор - самовлюбленный мудак.
Поправка: религиозный самовлюбленный мудак.
> On 12/20/2021 12:14 AM, YuraS wrote:
>> On 12/19/2021 11:26 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2021 9:32 PM, YuraS wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/2021 5:30 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn wrote:
>>>>> Shemita: Do not become a chimpanzee
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike their simian counterparts, human beings can tolerate mundane
>>>>> repetitive tasks and get past the boredom, for they can see the
>>>>> bigger picture
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shemita-do-not-become-a-chimpanzee/
>>>>>
>>>>> ...The answer lies in one common question we all ask our friends.
>>>>> It is a question which goes to the heart of western civilization:
>>>>> “What do you do?” What we mean is, “What do you do for a living?”
>>>>> The answers we generally get are: “I am a
>>>>> businesswoman/businessman,” “I am an engineer,” or “I am a farmer,”
>>>>> etc. Nearly nobody answers: “I am a parent,” “I am a grandparent,”
>>>>> “I look after my family,” or “I care for my sick parents.” And
>>>>> certainly not, “I am occupied with the deeper/religious meaning in
>>>>> life,” or “I am occupied with how I can become a better, more moral
>>>>> person.” We answer the question with what we do for our living. Not
>>>>> with what we see as our higher task in life.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is highly symptomatic.
>>>>
>>>> Highly symptomatic, что автор - самовлюбленный мудак.
>>>
>>> how do you figure?
>>
>> По вот этой цитате. На человеческий она переводится примерно так: "Вы
>> - ничтожные черви, думающие только о низменных деньгах. И кто как не
>> я, д'Артаньян на белом коне, может вам открыть истину смысла жизни?"
>
> а, дак ты статью не читал
цитировал), то нахрен оно мне не нужно.
Я сейчас бегло прочёл _до_ этой цитаты - и ещё раз убедился, что оно
нахрен не нужно. Ещё я не тратил своего времени на вдумчивое чтение
сдвинутых на религии блоггеров.
>
>> Разжёвывать дальше?
>
> разжевывай - может, сможешь проглотить
"Камасутра", в детсве нужно учиться, в молодости - любить, в зрелые годы
- работать, а старость - посвятить религии.
⁹⁹⁹√ulcаn
Dec 20, 2021, 4:48:07 PM12/20/21
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>>> Разжёвывать дальше?
>>
>> разжевывай - может, сможешь проглотить
>
> Правильно говорит О: ты родился старичком. Ибо как говорит мудрая
> "Камасутра", в детсве нужно учиться, в молодости - любить, в зрелые годы
> - работать, а старость - посвятить религии.
YuraS
Dec 20, 2021, 10:41:45 PM12/20/21
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Нет, даже среди проповедников попадаются те, которых интересно
послушать, но это - совсем не тот вариант.
>
>>>> Разжёвывать дальше?
>>>
>>> разжевывай - может, сможешь проглотить
>>
>> Правильно говорит О: ты родился старичком. Ибо как говорит мудрая
>> "Камасутра", в детсве нужно учиться, в молодости - любить, в зрелые
>> годы - работать, а старость - посвятить религии.
>
> я источник не сверял, но, вроде, всё верно in broad strokes
>
французского). :)
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