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999Vulcan
Sep 15, 2017, 8:09:19 AM9/15/17
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Дженнифер Рубин of liberal #fakenews Washington Post хлещет демократов уем по мордасам
Democrats don’t need their own snake oil salesman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/09/14/democrats-dont-need-their-own-snake-oil-salesman
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President Trump went through an entire presidential campaign promising “wonderful” health care that would cover “everybody,” without a higher price or an increase in taxes. It was a con, much bigger and more damaging than the Trump University scam. Trump had nothing in his cupboard on health care (or anything else); Republicans in Congress only had take-aways from vulnerable Americans. They lacked a better idea to put up against the Affordable Care Act. You know the rest. A crash and burn, a political humiliation.
Now comes Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) offering single-payer health care. It will be wonderful. It will cover everybody. It will somehow save us money. Other people’s taxes will pay for it. Sound familiar?
[analysis skipped]
The GOP has been taken over by ethno-nationalists with no rational economic policies. If the Democrats now allow themselves to be yanked around by self-declared socialists with no rational economic policies one of two things will happen — either the country will be in deep trouble (facing a future of irresponsible presidents and angrier, more disappointed voters who seek more and more extreme leaders) or a party ranging from center-right to center-left will emerge.
In the latter there would be differences on the size and scope of government, just how much tax revenue we need, how much the federal government should do, etc. It will, however, be a discussion among rational adults willing to work off of a common set of facts (technically called “reality”) and engage in good faith arguments. That used to be what the Republicans and Democrats did, but if both of the major parties are going off the deep end, then sober-minded folk who care about governance and the details will need to hash it out among themselves and make the case to the American people. They’ll have to act and treat their fellow Americans like mature adults, not like children to be bribed with candy or delicate flowers that will wilt if exposed to the harsh rays of reality. They will reach consensus the old fashioned way, by compromise tempered by experience.
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проблема с этим, однако, в том, что, to borrow a phrase from Christian Scence Monitor's Gail Chaddock, которую она обронила 6 лет назад на Tom Ashbrook's On Point, "it is difficult to make a case to the American people that is longer than a few sentences"
так что будем иметь популистов
коий, как говорил в 90-х Григорий Явлинский, правильно произносить в два слова
что по этому поводу думают местные "sober minded folks"?
(if any:)
Democrats don’t need their own snake oil salesman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/09/14/democrats-dont-need-their-own-snake-oil-salesman
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President Trump went through an entire presidential campaign promising “wonderful” health care that would cover “everybody,” without a higher price or an increase in taxes. It was a con, much bigger and more damaging than the Trump University scam. Trump had nothing in his cupboard on health care (or anything else); Republicans in Congress only had take-aways from vulnerable Americans. They lacked a better idea to put up against the Affordable Care Act. You know the rest. A crash and burn, a political humiliation.
Now comes Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) offering single-payer health care. It will be wonderful. It will cover everybody. It will somehow save us money. Other people’s taxes will pay for it. Sound familiar?
[analysis skipped]
The GOP has been taken over by ethno-nationalists with no rational economic policies. If the Democrats now allow themselves to be yanked around by self-declared socialists with no rational economic policies one of two things will happen — either the country will be in deep trouble (facing a future of irresponsible presidents and angrier, more disappointed voters who seek more and more extreme leaders) or a party ranging from center-right to center-left will emerge.
In the latter there would be differences on the size and scope of government, just how much tax revenue we need, how much the federal government should do, etc. It will, however, be a discussion among rational adults willing to work off of a common set of facts (technically called “reality”) and engage in good faith arguments. That used to be what the Republicans and Democrats did, but if both of the major parties are going off the deep end, then sober-minded folk who care about governance and the details will need to hash it out among themselves and make the case to the American people. They’ll have to act and treat their fellow Americans like mature adults, not like children to be bribed with candy or delicate flowers that will wilt if exposed to the harsh rays of reality. They will reach consensus the old fashioned way, by compromise tempered by experience.
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проблема с этим, однако, в том, что, to borrow a phrase from Christian Scence Monitor's Gail Chaddock, которую она обронила 6 лет назад на Tom Ashbrook's On Point, "it is difficult to make a case to the American people that is longer than a few sentences"
так что будем иметь популистов
коий, как говорил в 90-х Григорий Явлинский, правильно произносить в два слова
что по этому поводу думают местные "sober minded folks"?
(if any:)
Const
Sep 15, 2017, 2:08:05 PM9/15/17
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999Vulcan <z...@vulakh.us> wrote:
> Дженнифер Рубин of liberal #fakenews Washington Post хлещет демократов уем по мордасам
> Democrats don?t need their own snake oil salesman
> Дженнифер Рубин of liberal #fakenews Washington Post хлещет демократов уем по мордасам
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/09/14/democrats-dont-need-their-own-snake-oil-salesman
> ===
> President Trump went through an entire presidential campaign promising ?wonderful? health care that would cover ?everybody,? without a higher price or an increase in taxes. It was a con, much bigger and more damaging than the Trump University scam. Trump had nothing in his cupboard on health care (or anything else); Republicans in Congress only had take-aways from vulnerable Americans. They lacked a better idea to put up against the Affordable Care Act. You know the rest. A crash and burn, a political humiliation.
> Now comes Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) offering single-payer health care. It will be wonderful. It will cover everybody. It will somehow save us money. Other people?s taxes will pay for it. Sound familiar?
> [analysis skipped]
> The GOP has been taken over by ethno-nationalists with no rational economic policies. If the Democrats now allow themselves to be yanked around by self-declared socialists with no rational economic policies one of two things will happen ? either the country will be in deep trouble (facing a future of irresponsible presidents and angrier, more disappointed voters who seek more and more extreme leaders) or a party ranging from center-right to center-left will emerge.
> In the latter there would be differences on the size and scope of government, just how much tax revenue we need, how much the federal government should do, etc. It will, however, be a discussion among rational adults willing to work off of a common set of facts (technically called ?reality?) and engage in good faith arguments. That used to be what the Republicans and Democrats did, but if both of the major parties are going off the deep end, then sober-minded folk who care about governance and the details will need to hash it out among themselves and make the case to the American people. They?ll have to act and treat their fellow Americans like mature adults, not like children to be bribed with candy or delicate flowers that will wilt if exposed to the harsh rays of reality. They will reach consensus the old fashioned way, by compromise tempered by experience.
> ===
> проблема с этим, однако, в том, что, to borrow a phrase from Christian Scence Monitor's Gail Chaddock, которую она обронила 6 лет назад на Tom Ashbrook's On Point, "it is difficult to make a case to the American people that is longer than a few sentences"
> так что будем иметь популистов
> коий, как говорил в 90-х Григорий Явлинский, правильно произносить в два слова
> что по этому поводу думают местные "sober minded folks"?
> (if any:)
Это всё было бы зае, но в результате прошедших выборов
> проблема с этим, однако, в том, что, to borrow a phrase from Christian Scence Monitor's Gail Chaddock, которую она обронила 6 лет назад на Tom Ashbrook's On Point, "it is difficult to make a case to the American people that is longer than a few sentences"
> так что будем иметь популистов
> коий, как говорил в 90-х Григорий Явлинский, правильно произносить в два слова
> что по этому поводу думают местные "sober minded folks"?
> (if any:)
выяснилось, что среди либералов, даже, казалось бы,
нормальных, совершенно нет вменяемых.
Есть какая-то невменяемая свора бешеных коммунистических собак.
Систематически лгущих, причем по малейшему поводу.
И поощряющих насилие для достижения своих целей.
Но это так, вывод.
Не трогающий десятки лжей в этом "анализе".
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999Vulcan
Sep 15, 2017, 2:44:44 PM9/15/17
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Sep 15, 2017, 3:14:15 PM9/15/17
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999Vulcan <999v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > нормальных, совершенно нет вменяемых.
> > Есть какая-то невменяемая свора бешеных коммунистических собак.
> > Систематически лгущих, причем по малейшему поводу.
> > И поощряющих насилие для достижения своих целей.
> >
> > Но это так, вывод.
> > Не трогающий десятки лжей в этом "анализе".
> я же просил "*sober* minded":)
Кубушина, что ли ?
> > нормальных, совершенно нет вменяемых.
> > Есть какая-то невменяемая свора бешеных коммунистических собак.
> > Систематически лгущих, причем по малейшему поводу.
> > И поощряющих насилие для достижения своих целей.
> >
> > Но это так, вывод.
> > Не трогающий десятки лжей в этом "анализе".
> я же просил "*sober* minded":)
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999Vulcan
Sep 15, 2017, 3:19:00 PM9/15/17
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я же просил *minded*
Const
Sep 15, 2017, 4:45:35 PM9/15/17
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Вот приблизительно таких вот твоих друзей и единомышленников ?
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