SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN-- to appear in Gun Control Group Ads for More Laws
zkf...@freedom.net
ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
Screens
(It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
anti-gun laws)
JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE LAWS
AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
MCCAIN'S ANTI-GUN GROUP WANTS:
Licensing Handgun Owners
Ballistic Fingerprinting
Litigation against the Gun Industry
"Smart Guns"
Trigger Lock Laws
One-Gun-a-Month
More State and Local Background Checks
Waiting Periods for Handgun Purchases
Registration of Handguns
Repealing State Preemption Laws
Safe Storage Laws
McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
ALL I CAN SAY IS I CAN'T WAIT TO VOTE! I VOTE IN ARIZONA. I VOTE IN EVERY
ELECTION I AM ALLOWED. I USED TO RESPECT mccain! NOW I DESPISE HIM. HE
TRICKED ME! HE LIED! HE IS ANTI-GUN! I AM SORRY I EVER VOTED FOR mccain!
I WASTED MY VOTE! I WISH I COULD TAKE IT BACK! I DON'T CARE WHO HIS
OPPONENT IS NEXT TIME, I WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM! I WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM IN
EVERY ELECTION UNTIL THE END OF TIME! I HATE THAT GUY NOW! WHAT A PHONY
LIAR!
mccain IS ANTI-GUN!
W. E. Woods
zkf...@freedom.net wrote:
>
> ALERT!
> ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
No shit.
>
> McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> Screens
>
> (It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> anti-gun laws)
>
> JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE LAWS
> AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
shitcan him.
"One of the bargains men make with one another in order
to maintain their sanity is to share an illusion that they
are safe even when the physical evidence in the world
around them does not seem to warrant that conclusion."
-- Kai T. Erickson, _Everything in Its Path_
Randy H
"W. E. Woods" <wew...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> zkf...@freedom.net wrote:
> >
> > ALERT!
> > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
>
> No shit.
>
> >
> > McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> > Screens
> >
> > (It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> > anti-gun laws)
> >
> > JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
LAWS
> > AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
>
> McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
> shitcan him.
>
My how quickly they turn on their own when he starts thinking for himself
instead of towing the party line.
Thomas A. Bolig
> instead of towing the party line.
Senator McCain *IS* towing the party line... the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
McCain... proof that the 17th Amendment was a mistake...
Other Tom;
PS
"Political tags- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist,
liberal, conservative, and so forth- are never basic criteria. The human
race divides politically
into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such
desire."
--- Robert Heinlein
TAO
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> ALERT!
> ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
Deport the bastard.
Chris Morton
Big fan of Congressman Trafficante, are you?
PLMerite
"TAO" <taoDES...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I sympathize, but I think he was born here so he can't really *be* deported.
But if you wanna give him back to the North Vietnamese, I'll go along with
that.
Regards, PLMerite
--
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
Milkman
Daniel T. Fahey
I'll be damned if anyone could find a LAW BIDING CITIZEN DRIVING THE SPEED
LIMIT.
If they cannot even obey a simple law, why should we also give them GUNS...
YoDa
"Milkman" <jshe...@southwind.net> wrote in message
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Tommy Anderson Jr.
zkf...@freedom.net wrote in message ...
>ALERT!
>ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
>
>McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
>Screens
>
>(It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
>anti-gun laws)
>
>JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
LAWS
>AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
>
>MCCAIN'S ANTI-GUN GROUP WANTS:
>Licensing Handgun Owners
>Ballistic Fingerprinting
>Litigation against the Gun Industry
>"Smart Guns"
>Trigger Lock Laws
>One-Gun-a-Month
>More State and Local Background Checks
>Waiting Periods for Handgun Purchases
>Registration of Handguns
>Repealing State Preemption Laws
>Safe Storage Laws
All the above conditions for gun ownership sound reasonable to me. You got
something against making sure a 5 year old doesnt shoot his/her 3 year old
brother/sister ? Do you register your car that you drive ? Got a problem
with background checks ? Need to buy more than one gun a month ? If you
are not a dealer, why do you need to buy more than one gun a month ? Smart
guns cant be used by the criminal that breaks into your house and steals
them. Is that bad ? Anybody show up at your place lately demanding you
give up your gun? Happened to a guy I work with. Well, really, they showed
up at his place while he was at work. He sure had a lot of guns. Now the
crooks got all of them. And his computer. And his coin collection. And
more. Yeah, see, he lives out in one of the unincorporated areas where he
doesn't have to worry about the cops snooping around. Course, the house
down the street from him where the druggies were making metamphetamines blew
up and burned. Aint got no fire department either. Unincorporated, you
know ? Cant have firemen coming around telling him he cant burn his trash,
by Gawd. Oh, yeah, did I mention he aint got guns no more.
T. Anderson
ro...@hotmail.com
>> > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
Wish that were true.
>> > JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
>>> LAWS
>> > AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
>>
So what are you going to do about it ? Bring Charlton into AZ to campaign
against him ? Even if your PACs spent a 100 million dollars to defeat him, it
won't do you any good.
Daniel T. Fahey
YoDa
"Tommy Anderson Jr." <emar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Randy H
"Chris Morton" <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Since I have no idea who/what you are talking about, I cannot answer your
question. Since I am far too conservative to be a Democrat, far too liberal
to be a Republican and far too honest to be either, I really like these guys
who cross the party line, no matter which party they are in. McCain and
Specter [sp?] are two of my favorite Republicans.
Daniel T. Fahey
Just got off the beltway. There wasn't a Law biding citizen out there,
except me.
And I do not own firearms.
So bitch as you wish.. but there aain't no Law Biding Citizens out there.
Just fake ones that when the moment suits them become expediently Lawful,
but only when a COP is watching.
YoDa
"W. E. Woods" <wew...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
Randy H
"PLMerite" <stoc...@smokebombhill.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TAO" <taoDES...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vcAK6.19268$9j1.4...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > <zkf...@freedom.net> wrote in message
> > news:tfk0dv9...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > ALERT!
> > > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
> >
> > Deport the bastard.
>
> I sympathize, but I think he was born here so he can't really *be*
deported.
>
> But if you wanna give him back to the North Vietnamese, I'll go along with
> that.
>
That it the most disrespectful classless thing I have ever read on Usenet.
You are a disgrace to your country to make such a comment about someone who
so bravely served you country simply because he has a different opinion than
you. Totally disgusting!
ro...@hotmail.com
TAO
news:7iBK6.184$O6.2...@news.abs.net...
> I just came out of rush hour traffic..
> I'll be damned if anyone could find a LAW BIDING CITIZEN DRIVING THE SPEED
> LIMIT.
> If they cannot even obey a simple law, why should we also give them
GUNS...
>
Does that clarify things for you?
Free America
<wew...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> zkf...@freedom.net wrote:
> >
> > ALERT!
> > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
>
> No shit.
>
> >
> > McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> > Screens
> >
> > (It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> > anti-gun laws)
> >
> > JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE LAWS
> > AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
>
> McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
> shitcan him.
Interesting way for the Red, White & Blue, flag waving Republican party
to treat a war vetran who deliberately chose to stay behind in Vietnam
so other POW's could come home.
Real Patriotic.
Free America
Attila
Free America <freea...@americaisalwaysfree.org> wrote in message
news:3afb1db5$0$88178$2c3e...@news.voyager.net...
Oliver Stone is a veteran AND a screaming leftwinger as well; veteran status
doesn't mean a person isn't just another lowlife.
Lone Haranguer
Yeah and he was found out way back in the primaries. His stand against
the Constitution is the giveaway that he thinks like a Democrat.
LZ
Randy H
"Jeffrey Quick" <j...@po.cwru.edu> wrote in message
news:jaq-ya02408000R1105011009400001@news...
>
> > "PLMerite" <stoc...@smokebombhill.com> wrote in message
> > news:wFAK6.66738$Sv5.1...@news.easynews.com...
>
> > deported.
> > >
> > > But if you wanna give him back to the North Vietnamese, I'll go along
with
> > > that.
> > >
> >
> > That it the most disrespectful classless thing I have ever read on
Usenet.
> > You are a disgrace to your country to make such a comment about someone
who
> > so bravely served you country simply because he has a different opinion
than
> > you. Totally disgusting!
>
> positions on MANY issues, McCain would be much more comfortable in North
> Vietnam than here. I guess the NV brainwashing took.
>
> OK, he served our country, one upon a time. What has he done for it
lately?
>
You woke up in a free country today thanks to the combined effort of all our
veterans throughout our nation's history. I am a flag waving patriot who
thinks that nothing is more disgraceful than disrespecting those who paid
for my freedom. When his country called, he was there! If you think he
owes you something, you are an idiot. We owe him something, our respect.
The pansy ass little farts who post their insults here could never be man
enough to go through what he did.
Randy H
"Attila" <att...@tisd.net> wrote in message news:3afb2193$1...@news.tisd.net...
Well that "lowlife" was there to protect you sorry little ass and defend
your freedom. If you cannot respect that, you are a hopeless excuse for a
human being.
G.
Randy H wrote:
I respect McCain for his service, I sure don't care for his political views( he
should switch to the Dumbassacratic Party) and have not nor would not ever
support him for higher public office. But there is one thing that kind of
bothers me now days. We classify men like McCain as hero's for doing there
duty. Just when in this country did getting your aircraft shot out from under
your ass and spending time in a prison camp classify you as a hero. Now shooting
down a couple of dozen enemy fighters and making it back alive, or even going
down in flames, that's heroic. And I'm not just talking about McCain , it seems
like now days if you take a SAM up your poop chute, and bail out and avoid
capture that your a hero. It's like the recent event with China and the EP-3,
the pilot bringing that plane in safely was a amazing feat, to me it would have
been heroic of him and the crew if he had ditched the plane in the ocean to
prevent it from falling into the hands of the Chinese. When classed with the
hero's of our past, it seems like now days we're desperate to make hero's out of
anybody for anything even screwing up.
G.
Randy H
"G." <hgu...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3AFBF737...@bellsouth.net...
I have no problem with that at all. I don't necessarily agree, but who
cares? It just ticks me off when people don't pay our veterans their due
respect. The statement "... if you wanna give him back to the North
Vietnamese, I'll go along with that." was just unconscionable.
Thomas A. Bolig
Perfectly dumb*ss!!!
A line of non-sequitors 'apples and oranges' and mindless emotional rants
and it gets praised by another equally-dumbfounded by cold logic...
Other Tom;
PS
"The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything
about the subject."
-- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, Stoic phil,Roman Emperor from 121-180 CE
Thomas A. Bolig
>>shitcan him.
>Interesting way for the Red, White & Blue, flag waving Republican party
>to treat a war vetran who deliberately chose to stay behind in Vietnam
>so other POW's could come home.
McCain is 'treacherous, traitorous' but only to the Republican Party.
Being a veteran does not make one 'right in everyway' nor qualified for
public office. As to McCain's service, people seem to forget that McCain
comes from a military family; he was to be a career officer and earn his
star ... just like his daddy did... In wartime, to move forward on such a
career path *requires* service in the war itself. As a Naval pilot, had he
not served in VietNam, he would never have had a shot at the star. Had he
not been shot down, he would have retired as an admiral... voting GOP the
whole way...
As to his political career... I am not impressed by his work either in the
banking committees ( i.e. S&L scandals) nor in his legislation on FCC
regulations (his 'cable competition bill' was a disaster)... His part in
the 'campaign finance reform' farce shows him to be a big believer in *BIG*
government which (IMHO) is simply flowing from his military upbringing...
Much as was seen in Nixon and even to some extent Bush_the_Elder, the 'class
of 46' mentality remains in the modern career military; 'my country right or
wrong', 'never met a cop who didn't need a bigger gun and bigger jail',
'everything is fine, just follow orders' and the ever-popular, 'trust me,
I'm from the government'... The vast amount of power shifted to the federal
government in the McCain/Feingold bill is just that...
> Real Patriotic.
> Free America
What's the quote... "patriotism: the last refuge of a scoundrel..." Not
speaking of McCain... but maybe, of you...
Other Tom;
PS
"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when
the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally
alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest
dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well
meaning but without understanding."
-- Justice Louis O. Brandeis (Olmstead vs. United States)
Randy H
> In article <9dgub9$i6lpn$1...@ID-57355.news.dfncis.de>, "Randy H"
> IF you are such a flag-waving patriot, how can you support a man who
> perjured himself when he swore to uphold the Constitution, who has
actively
> worked to trash at least half of the Bill of Rights, most recently the 1st
> (campaign finance reform) and 2nd (gun control) Amendments. I think he
owes
> me something, not because I "am an idiot", but because he promised when he
> took office. He may have fought to preserve our freedom once, but since
> then he has actively worked to DESTROY our freedom.
>
> If you think that McCain is not an enemy of freedom, show me why, Mr.
> My-country-right-or-wrong.
>
If any law is that passed restricting our freedom below what the
constitution allows will NEVER survive a court challenge. I have no fear of
any act of Congress taking away any of my Constitutional rights. It would
never stand up and any fear that it would is irrational. By the way, there
are 10 amendments that make up the Bill of Rights and two does not
constitute "at least half of the Bill of Rights". I am not a big fan of
McCain, but I must admit that I like him better than any of the party line
guys in either party.
G.
Randy H wrote:
Ok, fair enough, but could we please oh please send them back "Hanoi Jane" and
maybe while we're at "Red Dan Rather",
please....................................
G.
ro...@hotmail.com
>
>Trouble is, McCain IS a party line guy...just not of the party he was
>elected under.
>
Interesting idea. If he switches now, we won't have to wait till Strom croaks
before dems take back control.
Attila
Randy H <randyhDE...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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How nice; at least we got SOME use out of them.....and they're still
leftwing lowlifes.
Bob
deja.com says...
ROTFLMAO That is funny! You were joking, right?
Bob
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>
> You woke up in a free country today thanks to the combined effort of all our
> veterans throughout our nation's history. I am a flag waving patriot who
> thinks that nothing is more disgraceful than disrespecting those who paid
> for my freedom. When his country called, he was there! If you think he
> owes you something, you are an idiot. We owe him something, our respect.
> The pansy ass little farts who post their insults here could never be man
> enough to go through what he did.
As I recall from my own oath, being in the military involves swearing to
defend the constitution. McCain was no more released from that oath
that was any other man who swore it. His choice to follow the path of
least resistance, to attack our Constition rather than defend them as he
swore to do, is the hallmark of cowards and weasly politicos, not
stalwart fighting men. I question the integrity of a man who, by all
accounts, faced enemies in war, and endured privation as a POW, but
somehow lacks the intestinal fortitude to defend the very heart of our
nation from worms like Chuck Schumer and Barbara Boxer. His country
calls him _now_; where the hell is he?
He is _foresworn_; he chooses to side with the enemies of the
Constitution. No matter what his deeds were in the past, he cannot
claim any respect from honorable people. Benedict Arnold was a brave
man and a gallant soldier, decorated, wounded twice, commended by George
Washington himself, and regarded as a hero until he turned on this
country out of spite and greed. Should we respect him for his service,
as well, and ignore his subsequent treachery? Preposterous.
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.
Thraka
Lone Haranguer
McCain would have to be interested in committing political suicide
though. People in AZ would stone him to death. Of course they may do
that anyhow.
LZ
ro...@hotmail.com
McCain would win any election in Arizona running as a communist, or even as a
libertarian.
Lone Haranguer
We'll see. I know quite a few committed Republicans in Arizona.
They've all cut McCain off their list of politicians who will get their
support. In fact many now hate his guts and will be working to unseat
him. The search is on for a successor.
LZ
ro...@hotmail.com
>> McCain would win any election in Arizona running as a communist, or even as a
>> libertarian.
>
>We'll see. I know quite a few committed Republicans in Arizona.
>They've all cut McCain off their list of politicians who will get their
>support. In fact many now hate his guts and will be working to unseat
>him.
>The search is on for a successor.
Maybe they should try raising Barry from the grave.
Randy H
Now we are clearly in agreement!
Randy H
"Bob" <notto...@forevermail.com> wrote in message
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> > > With all due respect to those who have fought for my country:
> > > IF you are such a flag-waving patriot, how can you support a man who
> > > perjured himself when he swore to uphold the Constitution, who has
> > actively
> > > worked to trash at least half of the Bill of Rights, most recently the
1st
> > > (campaign finance reform) and 2nd (gun control) Amendments. I think he
> > owes
> > > me something, not because I "am an idiot", but because he promised
when he
> > > took office. He may have fought to preserve our freedom once, but
since
> > > then he has actively worked to DESTROY our freedom.
> > >
> > > If you think that McCain is not an enemy of freedom, show me why, Mr.
> > > My-country-right-or-wrong.
> > >
> >
> > If any law is that passed restricting our freedom below what the
> > constitution allows will NEVER survive a court challenge. I have no
fear of
> > any act of Congress taking away any of my Constitutional rights. It
would
> > never stand up and any fear that it would is irrational.
>
> ROTFLMAO That is funny! You were joking, right?
>
> Bob
No joke. Society, opinions and attitudes have changed dramatically over the
years, but the Bill of Rights still stands strong. None of them will ever
be amended out of the Constitution and Congress does not have the power to
legislate them out. This paranoia NRA members, ditto heads, et al feel is
great for the gun manufactures. It provides them with lobbyists that they
do not have to pay for. Other industries have to pay for their own
lobbyists, but the gun industry gets their customers to do it for them. A
great deal if you can get it!
Of all the things this country has done right, those ten amendments stand at
the top of my list.
Keith A Flick
So you mean that any law such as:
asset forfeiture without the conviction of a felony
gun control laws that infringe on the right of the
people to keep and bear arms
authorization of police entry into a home on
the strength of an anonymous phone call
(without a warrant)
authorization of the taking of a child from
his/her parents on the strength of an
anonymous phone call and the opinion
of a "child welfare worker" with no facts
to back it up
allowing the taking of private property from
one person under eminent domain and the
selling of that same property to another
person for business purposes
authorizing the arrest and confining of
American citizens in a concentration camp
because they or their parents came from a
foreign with whom we are at war
punishing someone for a crime they committed
30 years ago with the loss of a right guaranteed
under the bill of rights (retroactive punishment)
could not stand up under a court challenge?
This has been described as naive, I think that it has to
be a little more than that. An inability or a wish to not
see the truth as opposed to not seeing the truth yet.
W. E. Woods
Randy H wrote:
>
> "W. E. Woods" <wew...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3AFAA09E...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >
> > zkf...@freedom.net wrote:
> > >
> > > ALERT!
> > > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
> >
> > No shit.
> >
> > >
> > > McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> > > Screens
> > >
> > > (It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> > > anti-gun laws)
> > >
> > > JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
> LAWS
> > > AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
> >
> > McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
> > shitcan him.
> >
>
> My how quickly they turn on their own when he starts thinking for himself
> instead of towing the party line.
My how wrong you are. He is not "thinking for himself." Follow the
money, among other things. Also, he is certainly not one of mine.
--
"One of the bargains men make with one another in order
to maintain their sanity is to share an illusion that they
are safe even when the physical evidence in the world
around them does not seem to warrant that conclusion."
-- Kai T. Erickson, _Everything in Its Path_
W. E. Woods
How do you infer that I am a Republican? The rest of your story is as
immaterial as can be even if it were true.
W. E. Woods
Assume that were true. So what? It does *NOT* make what he is doing now
okay.
--
W. E. Woods
"Thomas A. Bolig" wrote:
>
> >>McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
> >>shitcan him.
> >Interesting way for the Red, White & Blue, flag waving Republican party
> >to treat a war vetran who deliberately chose to stay behind in Vietnam
> >so other POW's could come home.
>
> McCain is 'treacherous, traitorous' but only to the Republican Party.
And America.
W. E. Woods
Randy H wrote:
>
> "PLMerite" <stoc...@smokebombhill.com> wrote in message
> news:wFAK6.66738$Sv5.1...@news.easynews.com...
> >
> > "TAO" <taoDES...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:vcAK6.19268$9j1.4...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > <zkf...@freedom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:tfk0dv9...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > ALERT!
> > > > ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
> > >
> > > Deport the bastard.
> >
> > I sympathize, but I think he was born here so he can't really *be*
> deported.
> >
> > But if you wanna give him back to the North Vietnamese, I'll go along with
> > that.
> >
>
> That it the most disrespectful classless thing I have ever read on Usenet.
Not even close. Stick around.
W. E. Woods
Not even close. We can respect what he did once while recognizing we owe
him no respect for what he is now. Why, do you figure a medal means you
can then rob banks and commit rape with impunity?
W. E. Woods
"Daniel T. Fahey" wrote:
>
> I just came out of rush hour traffic..
> I'll be damned if anyone could find a LAW BIDING CITIZEN DRIVING THE SPEED
> LIMIT.
> If they cannot even obey a simple law, why should we also give them GUNS...
Who gives anyone guns?
W. E. Woods
"Tommy Anderson Jr." wrote:
>
> zkf...@freedom.net wrote in message ...
> >ALERT!
> >ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
> >
> >McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> >Screens
> >
> >(It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> >anti-gun laws)
> >
> >JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
> LAWS
> >AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
> >
> >MCCAIN'S ANTI-GUN GROUP WANTS:
> >Licensing Handgun Owners
> >Ballistic Fingerprinting
> >Litigation against the Gun Industry
> >"Smart Guns"
> >Trigger Lock Laws
> >One-Gun-a-Month
> >More State and Local Background Checks
> >Waiting Periods for Handgun Purchases
> >Registration of Handguns
> >Repealing State Preemption Laws
> >Safe Storage Laws
>
> All the above conditions for gun ownership sound reasonable to me.
Then you know nothing of the subject.
> You got
> something against making sure a 5 year old doesnt shoot his/her 3 year old
> brother/sister ?
Ur, no. Why do you ask? The law already covers that.
> Do you register your car that you drive ?
Only on public streets that a built specifically to carry them.
> Got a problem
> with background checks ?
Yes.
> Need to buy more than one gun a month ?
What does need have to do with it?
> If you
> are not a dealer, why do you need to buy more than one gun a month ?
What does need have to do with it?
> Smart
> guns cant be used by the criminal that breaks into your house and steals
> them.
Prove it.
> Is that bad ?
Guns work fine now. Add crap to them and you reduce their reliability.
> Anybody show up at your place lately demanding you
> give up your gun?
Actually, yes, since my place is America.
> Happened to a guy I work with. Well, really, they showed
> up at his place while he was at work. He sure had a lot of guns. Now the
> crooks got all of them. And his computer. And his coin collection. And
> more. Yeah, see, he lives out in one of the unincorporated areas where he
> doesn't have to worry about the cops snooping around. Course, the house
> down the street from him where the druggies were making metamphetamines blew
> up and burned. Aint got no fire department either. Unincorporated, you
> know ? Cant have firemen coming around telling him he cant burn his trash,
> by Gawd. Oh, yeah, did I mention he aint got guns no more.
Oh yeah, did you mention that those were criminals? Did I mention that
you don't know jack about this subject?
W. E. Woods
"Daniel T. Fahey" wrote:
>
> Perfect!!;-)
Perfectly ignorant.
>
> YoDa
>
> "Tommy Anderson Jr." <emar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:9deodv$n5a$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > zkf...@freedom.net wrote in message ...
> > >ALERT!
> > >ARIZONA SENATOR JOHN McCAIN IS ANTI-GUN!
> > >
> > >McCain Premieres Unprecedented "Gun Safety" Announcement on 2,500 Movie
> > >Screens
> > >
> > >(It is an advertisement/propaganda for a gun control website promoting
> > >anti-gun laws)
> > >
> > >JOHN McCAIN IS NOW A SPOKESPERSON FOR AN ANTI-GUN GROUP THAT WANTS MORE
> > LAWS
> > >AGAINST LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.
> > >
> > >MCCAIN'S ANTI-GUN GROUP WANTS:
> > >Licensing Handgun Owners
> > >Ballistic Fingerprinting
> > >Litigation against the Gun Industry
> > >"Smart Guns"
> > >Trigger Lock Laws
> > >One-Gun-a-Month
> > >More State and Local Background Checks
> > >Waiting Periods for Handgun Purchases
> > >Registration of Handguns
> > >Repealing State Preemption Laws
> > >Safe Storage Laws
> >
> > All the above conditions for gun ownership sound reasonable to me. You
> got
> > something against making sure a 5 year old doesnt shoot his/her 3 year old
> > brother/sister ? Do you register your car that you drive ? Got a problem
> > with background checks ? Need to buy more than one gun a month ? If you
> > are not a dealer, why do you need to buy more than one gun a month ?
> Smart
> > guns cant be used by the criminal that breaks into your house and steals
> > them. Is that bad ? Anybody show up at your place lately demanding you
> > give up your gun? Happened to a guy I work with. Well, really, they
> showed
> > up at his place while he was at work. He sure had a lot of guns. Now the
> > crooks got all of them. And his computer. And his coin collection. And
> > more. Yeah, see, he lives out in one of the unincorporated areas where he
> > doesn't have to worry about the cops snooping around. Course, the house
> > down the street from him where the druggies were making metamphetamines
> blew
> > up and burned. Aint got no fire department either. Unincorporated, you
> > know ? Cant have firemen coming around telling him he cant burn his
> trash,
> > by Gawd. Oh, yeah, did I mention he aint got guns no more.
> > T. Anderson
> >
> >
> >
--
BD (Dave) Thompson
"> Free America wrote:
>
> In article <3AFAA09E...@ix.netcom.com>, W. E. Woods
> > <wew...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > McCain is a treacherous, traitorous little bastard. Arizona needs to
> > > shitcan him.
>
> Interesting way for the Red, White & Blue, flag waving Republican party
> to treat a war vetran who deliberately chose to stay behind in Vietnam
> so other POW's could come home.
John McCain suffered more in captivity than you or I will ever know. The
nation can never repay or compensate for the suffering the POW's endured.
Having said all that does not give Fruitcake McCain a free pass in the world
of politics. His politics stand aside from his history as a POW. He is a
bumbling, disturbed, one note whiner. I hope the people of Arizona wake up
and shit can him.
--
Dave
David Halpern
behind him? None other than C. E. Schumer and and the McCarthy bitch.
D.H.
"BD (Dave) Thompson" <bdthomps...@lvcablemodem.com> wrote in message
news:tgavk7q...@corp.supernews.com...
Lone Haranguer
David Halpern wrote:
>
> Did you notice him with that gunshow "loophole" crap on the TV? Who was
> behind him? None other than C. E. Schumer and and the McCarthy bitch.
>
> D.H.
>
Appearing in public on the arm of Chucky (Whale Shit) Schumer should be
the kiss of death for him. Schumer is regarded as scum in AZ.
What's the difference when Schumer and a skunk get road-killed?
The skunk scene will show brake marks.
LZ
loogee
news:tgavk7q...@corp.supernews.com:
> As a retired NCO and a conservative I can freely say that McCain is a
certified nut and should be committed to a mental facility ASAP!
>
>
>
tHewHiz
If McCain gets his pet project passed it suddenly appears the NRA
fears a loss of influence on capital hill. I guess when McCain told
the public there would be a bloodletting if Campaign Finance Reform
didn't pass; he had no idea that much of that blood would be his own.
A lot of what is being currently said about Big John needs to be
understood in that context. Stand fast and stand Firm my fellow
Arizonian's.
J
Politics as with most things in life are better served in moderation.
>>
>>
>
Lone Haranguer
McCain is working to become another Benedict Arnold. First a
hero, then a traitor. He's a loose cannon and needs to see a
shrink. BAD.
LZ
tHewHiz
wrote:
Funny McCain strikes me as one of the sanest people in the beltway. He
fully understands and grasps the reality of just how our political
systems are being corrupted through manipulation and trumped by
special interest groups. He is among those who would like to see the
tides turned in this respect against these self-appointed/anointed
groups, choosing to shift at least some of the power back to the
people, through real Campaign Finance Reform. If that is your
definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
J
Politics as with most things in life are better served in Moderation.
BD (Dave) Thompson
news:3b29141a....@netnews.att.net...
>
> Funny McCain strikes me as one of the sanest people in the beltway. He
> fully understands and grasps the reality of just how our political
> systems are being corrupted through manipulation and trumped by
> special interest groups. He is among those who would like to see the
> tides turned in this respect against these self-appointed/anointed
> groups, choosing to shift at least some of the power back to the
> people, through real Campaign Finance Reform. If that is your
> definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
>
> J
>
Please explain to all of us how restricting unions from political speech
within 60 days of a general election will shift the power back to the
people. If the only organizations that may participate in the electoral
process before an election are the news media, you have taken the power away
from the people and given it to large commercial organizations with their
own political agenda.
McCain has become his own political special interest group. His interest?
To keep himself in the limelight as much as possible.
--
Dave
Lone Haranguer
A bad sign. A nutcase is always the last one to know that he IS a
nutcase.
He
> fully understands and grasps the reality of just how our political
> systems are being corrupted through manipulation and trumped by
> special interest groups.
Who doesn't? Soccer moms?
He is among those who would like to see the
> tides turned in this respect against these self-appointed/anointed
> groups, choosing to shift at least some of the power back to the
> people, through real Campaign Finance Reform.
The kind he is sponsoring is clearly unconstitutional. I don't
like people trying to stifle my freedom of speech. The courts
have already ruled on this issue so OBVIOUSLY McCain is using it
to fleece the sheep. In case you are wondering WHICH sheep, look
in the mirror.
If that is your
> definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
10-4. You WERE in the nitwit column but at your request have been
moved to the insane column. Plenty of company there too.
LZ
ro...@hotmail.com
>>hero, then a traitor. He's a loose cannon and needs to see a
>>shrink. BAD.
>>LZ
>
>Funny McCain strikes me as one of the sanest people in the beltway. He
>fully understands and grasps the reality of just how our political
>systems are being corrupted through manipulation and trumped by
>special interest groups. He is among those who would like to see the
>tides turned in this respect against these self-appointed/anointed
>groups, choosing to shift at least some of the power back to the
>people, through real Campaign Finance Reform. If that is your
>definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
>
They gun zealots are just pissed because they won't be able to buy or threaten
enough congressmen with soft money.
[NOYB]
ro...@hotmail.com wrote in message ...
Yea, that's right. The NRA, right along with the NAACP, AARP, NEA, etc.,
etc.
>
>
>
ro...@hotmail.com
en they want.
>
>Why not just get rid of ALL the campaign finance laws, and let each of us
>pay for the government we want?
>
Because that's a plutocracy.
tHewHiz
>
> If that is your
>> definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
>
>10-4. You WERE in the nitwit column but at your request have been
>moved to the insane column. Plenty of company there too.
>LZ
Oh Geez Ollie you shouldn't of but this small token of praise coming
from you makes me feel better already.
J
Voting is easy, find out what the rich man wants and than ask yourself
am I rich? The decision from this point is then made elementary for
most of us.
Randy Sweeney
> If McCain gets his pet project passed it suddenly appears the NRA
> fears a loss of influence on capital hill. I guess when McCain told
> the public there would be a bloodletting if Campaign Finance Reform
> didn't pass; he had no idea that much of that blood would be his own.
> A lot of what is being currently said about Big John needs to be
> understood in that context. Stand fast and stand Firm my fellow
> Arizonian's.
And remember to stand silently unless you want to be charged with illegal
political speech under the new McCain anti-speech act.
All politically active groups should challange McCain's attack on the
constitution in the guise of campaign finance reform.
Barbarian
"Randy Sweeney" <rswe...@home.com> wrote in message
news:v5xW6.85823$qc.10...@news1.rdc1.va.home.com...
would - be dictator.
tHewHiz
wrote:
>
>"tHewHiz" <i...@ataboy.net> wrote in message
>news:3b28ce31...@netnews.att.net...
>
>> If McCain gets his pet project passed it suddenly appears the NRA
>> fears a loss of influence on capital hill. I guess when McCain told
>> the public there would be a bloodletting if Campaign Finance Reform
>> didn't pass; he had no idea that much of that blood would be his own.
>> A lot of what is being currently said about Big John needs to be
>> understood in that context. Stand fast and stand Firm my fellow
>> Arizonian's.
>
>And remember to stand silently unless you want to be charged with illegal
>political speech under the new McCain anti-speech act.
Ha the above is laughable hardly worth a reply.
The below is at least understandable although I suspect those people
who corrupt the system the most will be the loudest and most active
when it comes to the number of attempts being made to demonize Big
John.
>All politically active groups should challange McCain's attack on the
>constitution in the guise of campaign finance reform.
If Campaign Finance Reform was unconstitutional it will not stand, so,
Plop, there goes that piece of your argument.
J
Campaign Finance Reform may not be a fix all for what ails or
political process but it is at least a Step in the right direction.
Lone Haranguer
The meat of the McCain-Feingold bill has ALREADY been found
unconstitutional. He KNOWS it will be found so again but in the
meantime can cause a lot of mischief until it travels through the
courts again.
Haven't you wised up to McCain yet? He's a little kid who has had
his ass whipped and now he is sulking. He USED to be pro-gun but
suddenly he is anti-gun. Why? Because the NRA supported Bush in
the primaries and he needs to get even. He's lashing out in all
directions like a blind snake. Someone needs to slap him with a
wet washrag and get him out of his tantrum.
LZ
tHewHiz
wrote:
>
>
Ok I'll bite which part of the McCain-Feingold bill has already been
found uncostitutional ?
>He KNOWS it will be found so again but in the
>meantime can cause a lot of mischief until it travels through the
>courts again.
I suspect it will pass muster and if not we'll at least have a better
framework to work with. As any and every SC decision will have two
accompanying opinions attached to it, one pro and one of dissent.
>Haven't you wised up to McCain yet? He's a little kid who has had
>his ass whipped and now he is sulking. He USED to be pro-gun but
>suddenly he is anti-gun. Why? Because the NRA supported Bush in
>the primaries and he needs to get even. He's lashing out in all
>directions like a blind snake. Someone needs to slap him with a
>wet washrag and get him out of his tantrum.
>LZ
Seems to me that IIRC it was the religious right that torpedo Sen.
McCain's attempt to gain the seat of control of the GOP and the
presidency, not the NRA.
W. E. Woods
OK, you're insane. McCain is a self-interested, statist prick.
W. E. Woods
So, how's the weather on Pluto?
--
W. E. Woods
You're sure stupid. What was the name of your planet again? It sure
ain't Earth.
pyotr filipivich
Thompson" <bdthomps...@lvcablemodem.com> was inspired to write:
>"tHewHiz" <i...@ataboy.net> wrote:>>
>> Funny McCain strikes me as one of the sanest people in the beltway. He
>> fully understands and grasps the reality of just how our political
>> systems are being corrupted through manipulation and trumped by
>> special interest groups. He is among those who would like to see the
>> tides turned in this respect against these self-appointed/anointed
>> groups, choosing to shift at least some of the power back to the
>> people, through real Campaign Finance Reform. If that is your
>> definition of insanity then count me among the insane.
>Please explain to all of us how restricting unions
The MF bill wouldn't restrict the Unions. But it would restrict
individuals, and PACs from doing this. Which means that were I desirous of
informing the voters of the 2050 Precinct of the 43rd district that one of the
candidates for precinct office was not really a Democrat, based on their record
of giving to the RNC, by taking out an ad in the Stranger - MF would make such
an expression of Free Speech _illegal_, unless I can convince my Union to do it
instead. Hmmm - I'd have to become Shop Steward ...
> from political speech
>within 60 days of a general election will shift the power back to the
>people. If the only organizations that may participate in the electoral
>process before an election are the news media, you have taken the power away
>from the people and given it to large commercial organizations with their
>own political agenda.
Yeah.
>McCain has become his own political special interest group. His interest?
>To keep himself in the limelight as much as possible.
Notice how he put his name to the Full Employment for Trial Lawyers Act
(Better known as the "Sue everybody involved with an HMO" bill, but called the
"Patient's Bill of Rights" Bill. As the saying goes "And who do you think will
be footing this Bill?") without reading the silly thing first.
pyotr filipivich
"The world seldom needs saving. I, on the other hand, just might!"
Mike Eglestone, tpg. 2001.06.01
A diffrent take on "Think Globally, act locally" cie nes pas?