The Tea Fire Nov 2008
Ic
http://blkswanstudios.com/teafirearea/?linkSource=edhat.com
Goats to the Rescue
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/20/goats-rescue/
Herd Hired to Eat Through Mission Canyon Fire Fodder
Thursday, November 20, 2008
Tea Fire in Santa Barbara - Montecito, California.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fishgoat23/sets/72157609430147388/?linkSource=edhat.com
82 photos | 335 views
SANTA BARBARA CITY COLLEGE STATEMENT REGARDING TEA FIRE INCIDENT
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=1400&nid=15397&linkSource=edhat.com
Westmont, UCSB students not involved in Tea Fire
http://www.thedailysound.com/112008fireinvestigation
The Unusual History of the Tea Fire’s Point of Origin
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/20/unusual-history-tea-fires-point-origin/
Aqueducts, Skateboards, and Flames
Thursday, November 20, 2008
Everyone Knows Whom the Saved Envy
http://imnotonetoblogbut.blogspot.com/2008/11/everyone-knows-whom-saved-envy.html
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
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"Embers were falling. Wind was 70 miles an hour, easily, and it was
just like Armageddon," ... "You couldn't hear yourself think"
Rob Lowe
The Tea Fire Montecito/Santa Barbara Nov 2008 [random/misc/photos]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/browse_frm/thread/ffd2871f7db97ad8#
Ic
Westmont. Authorities:"Students belong to SB City College"
by Patrick Price Photographer | November 19, 2008
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/montecito-tea-fire-caused-student-bonfire-some-quick-consider-westmont-authorities-students-belong-sb-city-college?page=1
bonfire or campfire?
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good neighbor (not verified) at 20:59 on November 19th, 2008
It's interesting that little has been mentioned about the Tea House
being on private property. As I understand it, there is a locked gate
one must crawl under/over to gain entrance in order to trespass on
this privately owned property. And where does the wood come from for
the bonfire? It would seem this "outing" would require a lot of effort
and preplanning.
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Of course all the facts aren't know, but enough are known for folks to
be rightly upset.
1) Ten adults trespassed on private land.
2) They set a bonfire (an enormous fire) on somebody else's property
at a time of high fire alert.
3) They left the scene early the next morning "believing" that they
had extinguished the fire even though they had no access to a hose or
running water.
4) Their actions injured dozens and possibly lead to the death of one,
not to mention caused millions in damage, burned down over 100 homes,
and destroyed countless personal belongings such as photos, paintings,
family heirlooms, etc., that can't be replaced.
5) An anonymous tipster turned them in. Not one of these ten adult's
came forward on their own.
We've all done stupid things in our lives, but these people's actions
are beyond stupid. They MUST be prosecuted to the full extent of the
law and an example MUST be set that is remembered and talked about for
years so this doesn't happen again.
Furthermore, if (and this is a big if) they are Westmont students, an
argument can strongly be made to close down the school and for all
land and assets to be sold in order to help pay for some of the damage
the student's inflicted.
Lars (anonymous profile)
November 19, 2008
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/18/tea-fire-cause-determined/
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Below is another perspective that was posted on Noozhawk. I find
myself having all the conflicting emotions and thoughts of so many
that have posted.
Brother Joseph's message below touches me deeply. I know that I am
really fortunate/lucky that stupid things that I did not only as a
youth - but as an adult did not result in their own disasters to
others and myself. I cry at the loss of Mt. Calvary and the many homes
and lives that have been so painfullly impacted. I honor Brother
Joseph for being able to lift us higher than many of us seem to be
able to go in this moment.
Br. Joseph Brown, OHC wrote on 11/18/08 @ 08:42 PM
If this is true, then it is very difficult for me to process the
feelings. I was one of the monks at Mount Calvary Monastery. It was my
home and the spiritual home of literally tens of thousands of people
from around the world. Priceless works or art, books, historical
treasures pertaining to the Order, archives and all of my personal
possessions of the monks were lost. And this is the point at which
being a Christian Monastic reaches its very core. I have to forgive
these young people, AND do all that I can to help them. If I am unable
to do that, then my habit, and my place in the monastery was a sham.
That is what Christianity is, not Yes on Prop 8, not Faldwell or
Dobson. It is forgiveness and reaching out to those who have hurt us.
If as a monk I am unable to do that, then I did not deserve to live at
Mount Calvary
SantaBarbaraLover (anonymous profile)
November 19, 2008 at 7:44 a.m.
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While attending SBHS (80's) we often partied up at the T-Bowls and
frequently saw other locals of all ages doing the same. It was a
beautiful, magical spot and one that has been enjoyed this way since
at least the 60's. On occasion we were run off by the sheriff but most
of the time it was just a nice place to hike and enjoy the view of the
city and channel. The water works and stone construction of the
property really are a testament to the skill of the original builders.
Obviously having any kind of fire up there is a horrible idea and I
know that the sheriff and fire dept. have responded to fires there in
the past. When I heard that the fire started up there I thought
immediately that this would turn out to be the cause (as did all of
the old friends I talked to). I remember the way the guy who
accidently started the '77 Sycamore Canyon Fire (which I watched burn
down my house as a kid) was run out of town and suffered death
threats. This is probably why they are withholding the names for now.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and let the fire and law
enforcement investigators finish their job. The people responsible are
going to be held accountable and they will have to live with the
destruction they have caused for the rest of their lives. I wish those
of you who suffered a loss in this fire the best in the long journey
of moving on.
TheDriver (anonymous profile)
November 19, 2008 at 9:32 a.m.
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"They drove by a HIGH FIRE DANGER sign on their way up there."
Did it say High Fire Danger on Wednesday night? Or was it changed to
High on Thursday when the weather heated up?
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campfires (sorry I cannot believe it was a "bonfire"?
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"School rules ban alcohol and limit opposite sex dorm visits on
campus. With these rules in place, it's only natural that *some* kids
will break them-- smoke or drink or have sex off campus. The college
should expect this, and plan for it. Why wouldn't Westmont safety
officers patrol the Tea Garden, if it was a well known party spot?"
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"Meagher spoke to one of the firefighters from the Montecito Fire
Protection District who was on duty when the fire began. He was dirty
and eating a banana. Although the conversation was brief, Meagher was
able to ascertain that the fire was first spotted by the fire crew at
Montecito Fire Protection District Station 2, located at the
intersection of Sycamore Canyon and Cold Spring Road. According to the
firefighter interviewed by Meagher, at about 5:30 p.m., firefighters
could see a one- to two-acre fire from their station. By the time they
arrived at the location, in an area near the northern boundary of
Westmont College known as the Tea Garden, the fire had spread
significantly. Having grown too large to cut out, the fire crew
changed their tactics to structure containment."
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/13/tea-fire-moving-west-santa-barbara/
Thursday, November 13, 2008
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On Nov 21, 7:41 pm, Ic <lol7...@msn.com> wrote:
> Santa Barbara Tea Fire Aerial Imageshttp://blkswanstudios.com/teafirearea/?linkSource=edhat.com
>
> Goats to the Rescuehttp://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/20/goats-rescue/
> Herd Hired to Eat Through Mission Canyon Fire Fodder
> Thursday, November 20, 2008
>
> Tea Fire in Santa Barbara - Montecito, California.http://www.flickr.com/photos/fishgoat23/sets/72157609430147388/?linkS...
> 82 photos | 335 views
>
> SANTA BARBARA CITY COLLEGE STATEMENT REGARDING TEA FIRE INCIDENThttp://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=1400&nid=15397&linkSource=edh...
>
> Westmont, UCSB students not involved in Tea Firehttp://www.thedailysound.com/112008fireinvestigation
>
> The Unusual History of the Tea Fire’s Point of Originhttp://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/20/unusual-history-tea-fires...
> Aqueducts, Skateboards, and Flames
> Thursday, November 20, 2008
>
> Everyone Knows Whom the Saved Envyhttp://imnotonetoblogbut.blogspot.com/2008/11/everyone-knows-whom-sav...
> Wednesday, November 19, 2008
> []
> "Embers were falling. Wind was 70 miles an hour, easily, and it was
> just like Armageddon," ... "You couldn't hear yourself think"
> Rob Lowe
>
> The Tea Fire Montecito/Santa Barbara Nov 2008 [random/misc/photos]http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/browse_frm/thread/ffd2871f...
Ic
Fire Burn Area.
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=1400&nid=15553&linkSource=edhat.com
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
On Nov 23, 6:56 pm, Ic <lol7...@msn.com> wrote:
> Montecito Tea Fire Caused by Student Bonfire. Some quick to consider
> Westmont. Authorities:"Students belong to SB City College"
> by Patrick Price Photographer | November 19, 2008http://www.nowpublic.com/world/montecito-tea-fire-caused-student-bonf...
> November 19, 2008http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/18/tea-fire-cause-determined/
> changed their tactics to structure containment."http://www.independent.com/news/2008/nov/13/tea-fire-moving-west-sant...