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Nicole

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Hello, group!

I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing with
a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a coworker
two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying and
holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.

My name is Nicole, I am 26, 5'4" and 115 lbs, fair skinned,
blonde hair, big blue-violet eyes, fit and curvy. I am usually
called "pretty," but sometimes "beautiful" in the throes of
passion, LOL! I like the same things most people like-- movies,
good talks, relaxing by a fire listening to music, walking on
the beach, good meals. I also love sex, and I am a very giving,
honest and sensual partner. I am looking for some company, first
online, later who knows? I am a professional woman, never
married and no children. I make a good living, but there is an
empty place in my life where the right man should be!

Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet here
and see how it goes.)


Zilbermann

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>From: "Nicole" nos...@worldnet.att.net
>Date: Sun, 08 August 1999 09:51 PM EDT
>Message-id: <01bee209$ad4f7000$70754d0c@computername>
>
This is not the right newsgroup for personal ads, though people post
them here anyway. Your personal has serious deficiencies; you don't give your
location, though people post to alt.romance from all over the world, and you
would be better off not mentioning your fiancee's affair.

There are plenty of places intended for posting free personals, and
there may well be a place specifically for your region.


Aaron R. Kulkis

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You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of alt.romance?

If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to find it.
Most of the men who do give their HONEST thoughts get flamed to
hell and back..and those of us who are honest flame those who
spew bullshit just to feed women's egos....


No...go some place where a man can lie to you in private, without
the rest of us calling him on the bullshit he's blowing in your ear...

--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

A: The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.

D: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.

nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <37AE7E2A...@flash.net>,

aku...@flash.net wrote:
>
> You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of alt.romance?

Really!! There are much better places to look.


>
> If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to find it.

Oh, I can attest to that, sometimes maybe, but not much.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
<37b1b6f8...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> On 9 Aug 1999 01:51:36 GMT, "Nicole" <nos...@worldnet.att.net>

> Hi Nicole, I to, am going thru the same kind of thing. My
girlfriend
> of 4 years started seeing her damn teacher a collage. I was
torn up
> bad but am ready to move on.I am 28 6' tall. I would like
to know
> more about you. I bet we can start a fire.
>
>
> Wild Bill
> UTB
> -------
> >You're nothing but a jumped up egomaniac who slimes his way
around
> >girls.
> >It makes me sick.______KONA AKA MISS NAUGHTY BITCH____
> -------
>

Well, hello, Jon! You sound very nice, but I must say your
signature is a little bit of a turnoff. Still, tell me about
yourself. You're tall. I like tall men, they make me feel even
more feminine. To begin with, where are you?


Nicole

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Zilbermann <zilbe...@aol.comspamnot> wrote in article
<19990809010302...@ng-ff1.aol.com>...

Thank you for your interest and comments.

Nicole

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Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article
<37AE7E2A...@flash.net>...

> You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of
alt.romance?
>

> If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to
find it.

> Most of the men who do give their HONEST thoughts get flamed
to
> hell and back..and those of us who are honest flame those who
> spew bullshit just to feed women's egos....
>
>
> No...go some place where a man can lie to you in private,
without
> the rest of us calling him on the bullshit he's blowing in
your ear...
>
>
>
> --

Oh, my! Why so bitter? You have been hurt, haven't you? Some
women can be such bitches, don't I know it!


Courageous

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> > >Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet here
> > >and see how it goes.)

> > Hi Nicole, I to ...

> Well, hello, Jon! You sound very nice, but I must say your
> signature is a little bit of a turnoff. Still, tell me about
> yourself. You're tall. I like tall men, they make me feel even
> more feminine. To begin with, where are you?


You know, the better way to do this is to get some software
(like AOL) which allows you to create temporary email addresses
which you can delete later if they become too spammy or
inconvenient for you. People are going to sometimes feel
awkward about sharing personal information and the like in
a highly public forum. All those people watching and all that.


C

Laife

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I can say, I've been pretty damn honest about how I've felt about women.

Women-haters will believe that I am lying. They don't know anything else.

Nicole, there are much better places to look. Try a dance class.

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Nicole wrote:
> >
> > Hello, group!
> >
> > I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing with
> > a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a coworker
> > two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying and
> > holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
> >
> > My name is Nicole, I am 26, 5'4" and 115 lbs, fair skinned,
> > blonde hair, big blue-violet eyes, fit and curvy. I am usually
> > called "pretty," but sometimes "beautiful" in the throes of
> > passion, LOL! I like the same things most people like-- movies,
> > good talks, relaxing by a fire listening to music, walking on
> > the beach, good meals. I also love sex, and I am a very giving,
> > honest and sensual partner. I am looking for some company, first
> > online, later who knows? I am a professional woman, never
> > married and no children. I make a good living, but there is an
> > empty place in my life where the right man should be!
> >

> > Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet here
> > and see how it goes.)
>

> You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of alt.romance?
>
> If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to find it.
> Most of the men who do give their HONEST thoughts get flamed to
> hell and back..and those of us who are honest flame those who
> spew bullshit just to feed women's egos....
>
> No...go some place where a man can lie to you in private, without
> the rest of us calling him on the bullshit he's blowing in your ear...
>
> --

> Aaron R. Kulkis

--
Laife


Wendell Mollycheck

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If what you say is true...a big if on the net....why the hell would you
want to start dating so soon after your breakup? Its not healthy emotionally
to skip from one relationship to the next mere moments after it ends...wait
6 months to a yr.

--

Dreams give us hope when there's none in sight.
p10...@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us


Joe Dlhopolsky

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"Nicole" <nos...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Hello, group!

>I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing with
>a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a coworker
>two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying and
>holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.

[personal ad copy snipped, including hints of sex]

Nicole, you need to take a time out. You are in a classical rebound
situation, also perhaps tinctured by an unconscious need to get back
at your former fiance by doing him one better - e.g. seeking sex
without emotional commitment. It's not an uncommon reaction. However,
if you go through with it, you will almost assuredly increase your
level of cynicism and bitterness. It might seem like a correct or
logical thing to do now, but you may live to regret it. You stand on
the threshold of a self-destructive period of your life. Give it a
good hard look before you take the next step. Talk to your friends and
family members. Seek counseling. You've just been dealt a bad blow by
a truly scurrilous character (lucky you didn't marry him, huh?). Don't
expect to weather it all alone.


Joe Dlhopolsky
joe...@i-2000.com


si...@katwalk.com

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Very very good advise....clap, clap, clap

Nicole

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Courageous <jkra...@san.rr.com> wrote in article
<37AF15B9...@san.rr.com>...


>
> > > >Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet
here
> > > >and see how it goes.)
>

> > > Hi Nicole, I to ...
>
> > Well, hello, Jon! You sound very nice, but I must say your
> > signature is a little bit of a turnoff. Still, tell me about
> > yourself. You're tall. I like tall men, they make me feel
even
> > more feminine. To begin with, where are you?
>
>
> You know, the better way to do this is to get some software
> (like AOL) which allows you to create temporary email
addresses
> which you can delete later if they become too spammy or
> inconvenient for you. People are going to sometimes feel
> awkward about sharing personal information and the like in
> a highly public forum. All those people watching and all that.
>
>
> C
>

Oh, thank you! You alt.romance people are so helpful!

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37b19456...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> On 9 Aug 1999 17:44:51 GMT, "Nicole" <nos...@worldnet.att.net>

>
> >
> >
> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
> ><37b1b6f8...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> On 9 Aug 1999 01:51:36 GMT, "Nicole"
<nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >>

> >> >Hello, group!
> >> >
> >> >I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing
> >with
> >> >a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a
> >coworker
> >> >two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying
> >and
> >> >holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
> >> >

> >> >My name is Nicole, I am 26, 5'4" and 115 lbs, fair
skinned,
> >> >blonde hair, big blue-violet eyes, fit and curvy. I am
> >usually
> >> >called "pretty," but sometimes "beautiful" in the throes
of
> >> >passion, LOL! I like the same things most people like--
> >movies,
> >> >good talks, relaxing by a fire listening to music, walking
on
> >> >the beach, good meals. I also love sex, and I am a very
> >giving,
> >> >honest and sensual partner. I am looking for some company,
> >first
> >> >online, later who knows? I am a professional woman, never
> >> >married and no children. I make a good living, but there
is
> >an
> >> >empty place in my life where the right man should be!
> >> >

> >> >Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet
here
> >> >and see how it goes.)

> >> Hi Nicole, I to, am going thru the same kind of thing. My
> >girlfriend
> >> of 4 years started seeing her damn teacher a collage. I was
> >torn up
> >> bad but am ready to move on.I am 28 6' tall. I would
like
> >to know
> >> more about you. I bet we can start a fire.
> >>
> >>
> >> Wild Bill
> >> UTB
> >> -------
> >> >You're nothing but a jumped up egomaniac who slimes his
way
> >around
> >> >girls.
> >> >It makes me sick.______KONA AKA MISS NAUGHTY BITCH____
> >> -------
> >>
> >

> >Well, hello, Jon! You sound very nice, but I must say your
> >signature is a little bit of a turnoff. Still, tell me about
> >yourself. You're tall. I like tall men, they make me feel
even
> >more feminine. To begin with, where are you?
>

> I am sorry about the sig. My brother uses this computor also.
I hope I
> fixed it.
>
> I am in the south. I like football, fishing,and pretty women.
I think
> women are Gods gift to man. I love the beach and sailing. The
islands
> are my dream. I do not drink or smoke. And rock and roll is
king.
> Anything I left out?

My goodness! That is quite a lot to work with for now! Jon, I
am also in the south. I love southern men, there is nothing like
them. I'll bet honey won't melt in your mouth, eh, darling? Now,
here is a test question for you: if we were married and you went
fishing, who would have to clean the fish?


>

Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<37AF3A21...@hotmail.com>...


> I can say, I've been pretty damn honest about how I've felt
about women.
>
> Women-haters will believe that I am lying. They don't know
anything else.
>
> Nicole, there are much better places to look. Try a dance
class.
>

You sound caring, sweet, and bright. But, I do not dance!

Nicole

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Wendell Mollycheck <p010...@pb.seflin.org> wrote in article
<7one5r$5...@nntp.seflin.org>...


> If what you say is true...a big if on the net....why the hell
would you
> want to start dating so soon after your breakup? Its not
healthy emotionally
> to skip from one relationship to the next mere moments after
it ends...wait
> 6 months to a yr.
>
> --
>

I want to, because I feel it is the best thing to do, for me.
Where are you getting this "information" from about what is
healthy for people who have been dumped, anyway? Some kind of
cuckold's almanac, perhaps?


Nicole

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Joe Dlhopolsky <joe...@i-2000.com> wrote in article
<e2Nr3.43$44....@newsreader.i-2000.net>...


> "Nicole" <nos...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Hello, group!
>
> >I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing
with
> >a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a
coworker
> >two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying
and
> >holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
>

> [personal ad copy snipped, including hints of sex]
>

But I am alone. Are you single?

Laife

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I didn't dance either until I started taking classes. There are many
classes for beginners. I don't know what's popular where you live but
Salsa, Swing, and hip hop (nite club dancing) are popular where I live.
They have classes in all of these.

I've met a lot of people that way. Plus it's fun. You don't need a
partner to take classes. Everyone dances with everyone. Have fun!.

Nicole wrote:

>
> You sound caring, sweet, and bright. But, I do not dance!

Thanks.

--
Laife


Laife

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Nicole, you are very vulnerable right now. People can take advantage of
you. And then you'll feel worse. That is the reason to wait until you
are stronger to date again. That's just my opinion.

However, taking dance classes and going out and having fun right now is
recommended by me. You definitely do not want to stay and home and be
bottled up. It takes much longer to heal that way.

Every time you are alone, you will feel the pain again. What you need
to do is to hang out your good friends.

Nicole wrote:

--
Laife


Aaron R. Kulkis

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Nicole wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article
> <37AE7E2A...@flash.net>...
> > Nicole wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, group!
> > >
> > > I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing
> with
> > > a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a
> coworker
> > > two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying
> and
> > > holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
> > >
> > > My name is Nicole, I am 26, 5'4" and 115 lbs, fair skinned,
> > > blonde hair, big blue-violet eyes, fit and curvy. I am
> usually
> > > called "pretty," but sometimes "beautiful" in the throes of
> > > passion, LOL! I like the same things most people like--
> movies,
> > > good talks, relaxing by a fire listening to music, walking
> on
> > > the beach, good meals. I also love sex, and I am a very
> giving,
> > > honest and sensual partner. I am looking for some company,
> first
> > > online, later who knows? I am a professional woman, never
> > > married and no children. I make a good living, but there is
> an
> > > empty place in my life where the right man should be!
> > >
> > > Talk to me. (My e-mail is fake to avoid spam. Let's meet
> here
> > > and see how it goes.)
> >
> > You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of
> alt.romance?
> >
> > If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to
> find it.
> > Most of the men who do give their HONEST thoughts get flamed
> to
> > hell and back..and those of us who are honest flame those who
> > spew bullshit just to feed women's egos....
> >
> >
> > No...go some place where a man can lie to you in private,
> without
> > the rest of us calling him on the bullshit he's blowing in
> your ear...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> Oh, my! Why so bitter? You have been hurt, haven't you? Some
> women can be such bitches, don't I know it!

The radical feminists have spewed out 30 years of psychological
abuse at men, and at the same time, encouraged women to inflict
even more of it upon any man who they meet.

Now...why would ANY man be bitter for something so trivial?

Aaron R. Kulkis

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Laife wrote:
>
> I can say, I've been pretty damn honest about how I've felt about women.
>
> Women-haters will believe that I am lying. They don't know anything else.
>
> Nicole, there are much better places to look. Try a dance class.

Agreed. It's much easier to see through the liars if you actually
meet them in real life.

Here, the women are primarily attracted to the most shameless liars,
since they have no way of verifying anything that these cretins
spew out...

Aaron R. Kulkis

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Nicole wrote:
>
> Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> <37AF3A21...@hotmail.com>...
> > I can say, I've been pretty damn honest about how I've felt
> about women.
> >
> > Women-haters will believe that I am lying. They don't know
> anything else.
> >
> > Nicole, there are much better places to look. Try a dance
> class.
> >
>
> You sound caring, sweet, and bright. But, I do not dance!

There are dance classes everywhere. I would be willing to say that
the ballroom dance class I took in college (ages ago, years before
it came back into fashion) was the most useful course that I
ever took.

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37c1ce88...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> On 10 Aug 1999 04:49:01 GMT, "Nicole"


<nos...@worldnet.att.net>
>
> >
> >
> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
> ><37b19456...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> On 9 Aug 1999 17:44:51 GMT, "Nicole"
<nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
> >> ><37b1b6f8...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> >> On 9 Aug 1999 01:51:36 GMT, "Nicole"
> ><nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >> >
> >> >>

> The mood being right I would cook and feed them to you.
> I would even do the dishes.
>

Oh you are a sweet talking man. But what would it take for me to
get you into just the right mood? ;)


>

Nicole

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Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article

<37AFCAAC...@flash.net>...


> Nicole wrote:
> >
> There are dance classes everywhere. I would be willing to say
that
> the ballroom dance class I took in college (ages ago, years
before
> it came back into fashion) was the most useful course that I
> ever took.
>

Why, thanks, Aaron! I will keep that in mind.


Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

<37AFD16F...@hotmail.com>...


> I didn't dance either until I started taking classes. There
are many
> classes for beginners. I don't know what's popular where you
live but
> Salsa, Swing, and hip hop (nite club dancing) are popular
where I live.
> They have classes in all of these.
>
> I've met a lot of people that way. Plus it's fun. You don't
need a
> partner to take classes. Everyone dances with everyone. Have
fun!.
>

The thing is, I am a little shy. I don't like people looking at
me. I will be afraid I'll do something awkward.
>
>

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37afd26d...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> On 10 Aug 1999 04:54:20 GMT, "Nicole"
<nos...@worldnet.att.net>

>
> >
> >
> >Joe Dlhopolsky <joe...@i-2000.com> wrote in article
> ><e2Nr3.43$44....@newsreader.i-2000.net>...
> >> "Nicole" <nos...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >>

> >> >Hello, group!
> >>
> >> >I am taking what I think is a positive approach to dealing
> >with
> >> >a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a
> >coworker
> >> >two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and crying
> >and
> >> >holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
> >>

> I am .
>

Oh, hi again, Jon! Tell me a little more about you. What is
your family like? Are you a good dancer?



>

Nicole

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Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article

<37AFCA0B...@flash.net>...


> Nicole wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article

> > <37AE7E2A...@flash.net>...


> > > Nicole wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, group!
> > > >
> > > > I am taking what I think is a positive approach to
dealing
> > with
> > > > a big hurt. I caught my fiancee having an affair with a
> > coworker
> > > > two weeks ago, and I after two weeks of stewing and
crying
> > and
> > > > holing myself up in my apartment, I am ready to move on.
> > > >

> > > You want to "get to know" a new guy in the forum of
> > alt.romance?
> > >
> > > If you're looking for HONESTY here, you're *not* likely to
> > find it.
> > > Most of the men who do give their HONEST thoughts get
flamed
> > to
> > > hell and back..and those of us who are honest flame those
who
> > > spew bullshit just to feed women's egos....
> > >
> > >
> > > No...go some place where a man can lie to you in private,
> > without
> > > the rest of us calling him on the bullshit he's blowing in
> > your ear...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > Oh, my! Why so bitter? You have been hurt, haven't you?
Some
> > women can be such bitches, don't I know it!
>
> The radical feminists have spewed out 30 years of
psychological
> abuse at men, and at the same time, encouraged women to
inflict
> even more of it upon any man who they meet.
>
> Now...why would ANY man be bitter for something so trivial?
>

I am a radical feminist, and also a swell dominatrix. By the
way, your sig is really annoying.

Aaron R. Kulkis

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That's ok. So are feminists, Jeem, and Jet.

>
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> > B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
> >
> > C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> > sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> > that she doesn't like.
> >
> > D: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> > response until their behavior improves.
> >


--

Aaron R. Kulkis

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What will you do if you have a baby boy?

nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <37B14E77...@flash.net>,
aku...@flash.net wrote:

> > I am a radical feminist, and also a swell dominatrix. By the
> > way, your sig is really annoying.
>
> What will you do if you have a baby boy?

COME-ON!!
A dominatrix who is too shy to dance?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Laife

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I saw the same thing Nut, I therefore assumed she was joking.

Also, some shy women have fantasies of domination.

This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?

nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <37B19C17...@hotmail.com>,

Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I saw the same thing Nut, I therefore assumed she was joking.

Yeah, right!


>
> Also, some shy women have fantasies of domination.
>
> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?

Nope, I could care less about Ray.
I lost all respect for him and I gave him more than enough chances to
talk to me like a HUMAN BEING and he blew it big time.

t...@delphi.com

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<nutm...@my-deja.com> writes:

>In article <37B19C17...@hotmail.com>,
> Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I saw the same thing Nut, I therefore assumed she was joking.
>
>Yeah, right!
>>
>> Also, some shy women have fantasies of domination.
>>
>> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
>> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?


But it doesn't explain why Laime posts his delusions of "scoring"
here all the time. Reminds me of Beavis and Butt-Head, where Beavis
boasts of his successes, all of which never happened.




>Nope, I could care less about Ray.
>I lost all respect for him and I gave him more than enough chances to
>talk to me like a HUMAN BEING and he blew it big time.


And yet you reply to Laime, who in many ways is far worse.

Maybe it's out of pity...



DB

142 Days

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nutm...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
>> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?
>
>Nope, I could care less about Ray.

Whereas I could NOT care less about Ray.

We all have choice to make in life.


nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <7oscsv$in6$1...@nym.alias.net>,

postm...@127.0.0.1 (142 Days) wrote:
> nutm...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
> >> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?
> >
> >Nope, I could care less about Ray.
>
> Whereas I could NOT care less about Ray.

Good, I'm glad someone does.


>
> We all have choice to make in life.

Yes we do.

nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <xnQc7...@delphi.com>,

t...@delphi.com wrote:
> <nutm...@my-deja.com> writes:
>
> >In article <37B19C17...@hotmail.com>,
> > Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I saw the same thing Nut, I therefore assumed she was joking.
> >
> >Yeah, right!
> >>
> >> Also, some shy women have fantasies of domination.
> >>
> >> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so much
> >> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?
>
> But it doesn't explain why Laime posts his delusions of "scoring"
> here all the time. Reminds me of Beavis and Butt-Head, where Beavis
> boasts of his successes, all of which never happened.
>
> >Nope, I could care less about Ray.
> >I lost all respect for him and I gave him more than enough chances to
> >talk to me like a HUMAN BEING and he blew it big time.
>
> And yet you reply to Laime, who in many ways is far worse.

EXCUSE ME??????
Why don't you put yourself in my shoes for just one minute.
I come into this group to help people and right off the bat Aaron starts
in on me.
Then Ray calls me irrational because I am a woman, posts that he hates
me and spews out a bunch of swear words about me AFTER I even came to
his defense about a principle I believe in.
He crossed the line, NO ONE is going to talk to me like that.
Laife has NEVER done any of those things, and he even posted how my
advice has helped.

Laife

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nutm...@my-deja.com wrote:

>
> EXCUSE ME??????
> Why don't you put yourself in my shoes for just one minute.
> I come into this group to help people and right off the bat Aaron starts
> in on me.
> Then Ray calls me irrational because I am a woman, posts that he hates
> me and spews out a bunch of swear words about me AFTER I even came to
> his defense about a principle I believe in.
> He crossed the line, NO ONE is going to talk to me like that.
> Laife has NEVER done any of those things, and he even posted how my
> advice has helped.
>

Nut, I treat people accordingly. That is what some people may not
understand.

--
Laife

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37c51d89...@Bills-roses.com>...
> On 10 Aug 1999 23:11:59 GMT, "Nicole"
<nos...@worldnet.att.net>

>
> >
> >
> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

> ><37c1ce88...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> On 10 Aug 1999 04:49:01 GMT, "Nicole"
> ><nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >

> >> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

> >> ><37b19456...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> >> On 9 Aug 1999 17:44:51 GMT, "Nicole"
> ><nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >

> >> >> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

> >> >> ><37b1b6f8...@KIMBIHUGZ.COM>...
> >> >> >> On 9 Aug 1999 01:51:36 GMT, "Nicole"
> >> ><nos...@worldnet.att.net>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>

> Just you and the stars.
>

Oh, Jon, you sound so romantic. Can you be for real? I can feel
myself melting. Can I trust you, Jon?


Nicole

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nutm...@my-deja.com wrote in article
<7ouebk$9j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...


> In article <xnQc7...@delphi.com>,
> t...@delphi.com wrote:
> > <nutm...@my-deja.com> writes:
> >
> > >In article <37B19C17...@hotmail.com>,
> > > Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I saw the same thing Nut, I therefore assumed she was
joking.
> > >
> > >Yeah, right!
> > >>
> > >> Also, some shy women have fantasies of domination.
> > >>
> > >> This explains why a low self-esteem guy like Ray wants so
much
> > >> domination and control of women. Interesting, huh?
> >
> > But it doesn't explain why Laime posts his delusions of
"scoring"
> > here all the time. Reminds me of Beavis and Butt-Head, where
Beavis
> > boasts of his successes, all of which never happened.
> >
> > >Nope, I could care less about Ray.
> > >I lost all respect for him and I gave him more than enough
chances to
> > >talk to me like a HUMAN BEING and he blew it big time.
> >
> > And yet you reply to Laime, who in many ways is far worse.
>

> EXCUSE ME??????
> Why don't you put yourself in my shoes for just one minute.
> I come into this group to help people and right off the bat
Aaron starts
> in on me.
> Then Ray calls me irrational because I am a woman, posts that
he hates
> me and spews out a bunch of swear words about me AFTER I even
came to
> his defense about a principle I believe in.
> He crossed the line, NO ONE is going to talk to me like that.
> Laife has NEVER done any of those things, and he even posted
how my
> advice has helped.
>
>

Hey, guys! I am trying to talk to Jon here. Can't you fight in
some other thread?


Joe Dlhopolsky

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pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:


>>
>>Oh, Jon, you sound so romantic. Can you be for real? I can feel
>>myself melting. Can I trust you, Jon?


>Can you? Why not give it a shot? I don't bite.(unless you beg me to)

Jon, my boy, put your dick back in your pants. I get a sneaking
suspicion that Nicole is not all you are fantasizing about. In fact,
"she" might be quite the opposite of what you expect. In any event,
you two should be taking this to e-mail or a chat room. It's really
not appropriate for this newsgroup.

Joe Dlhopolsky
joe...@i-2000.com


Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37b6ae8f...@Bills-roses.com>...
> On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:21:45 GMT, joe...@i-2000.com (Joe
Dlhopolsky)

> After all the bickering I see in here I would say it was just
fine.
> Are you a moderator? No? I didn't think so. Call my ISP if you
have a
> problem.
> As for Nicole I will let her decide that.
>

Oh my goodness! I don't want to cause any problems, but this is
alt.romance, right? What are you supposed to talk about here?
This is so upsetting. Jon, you sound very nice, but why did that
person use the -ick word? I would rather talk here than in
e-mail, as my sister and I share the same account. Can't we talk
here, Jon?


Nicole

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Joe Dlhopolsky <joe...@i-2000.com> wrote in article

<q6Ls3.87$44.1...@newsreader.i-2000.net>...


> pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >>Oh, Jon, you sound so romantic. Can you be for real? I can
feel
> >>myself melting. Can I trust you, Jon?
>
>
> >Can you? Why not give it a shot? I don't bite.(unless you beg
me to)
>
> Jon, my boy, put your dick back in your pants. I get a
sneaking
> suspicion that Nicole is not all you are fantasizing about. In
fact,
> "she" might be quite the opposite of what you expect. In any
event,
> you two should be taking this to e-mail or a chat room. It's
really
> not appropriate for this newsgroup.
>

You are rude! As for my being a man, ask me anything, anything
at all! I can prove that I'm a woman! What do you want to know,
Joe? The average number of days in the menses cycle? The
earliest hour at which a hostess entertaining in the late
afternoon/early evening may properly light candles? The
difference between ashes of roses and mauve perhaps? How about a
detailed description of the best way to do a breast exam, Joe?
Best cure for a yeast infection? Recipe for home-made facial
mask? Hmm? You are not very romantic at all, I would say. No,
not at all. What topic is appropriate for this newsgroup,
anyway?


>
> Joe Dlhopolsky
> joe...@i-2000.com
>
>

Laife

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I thought you were a woman from the beginning.

Some men don't think you're a woman because you're so blatant about
sex. That would be my guess.

hehehe ...

Personally, I don't think you were blatant at all. Walk in my shoes and
see how women blatantly are about sex, in real life.

Nicole wrote:

--
Laife


nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <37B329A7...@hotmail.com>,

Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nut, I treat people accordingly. That is what some people may not
> understand.
>

Well Laife, so do I, but I won't stoop to their level either.

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37ba2cb9...@Bills-roses.com>...
> On 13 Aug 1999 04:23:31 GMT, "Nicole" <nos...@interol.com>

>
> >
> >
> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
> ><37b6ae8f...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:21:45 GMT, joe...@i-2000.com (Joe
> >Dlhopolsky)
> >>

> >> >pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Oh, Jon, you sound so romantic. Can you be for real? I
can
> >feel
> >> >>>myself melting. Can I trust you, Jon?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Can you? Why not give it a shot? I don't bite.(unless you
> >beg me to)
> >> >
> >> >Jon, my boy, put your dick back in your pants. I get a
> >sneaking
> >> >suspicion that Nicole is not all you are fantasizing
about.
> >In fact,
> >> >"she" might be quite the opposite of what you expect. In
any
> >event,
> >> >you two should be taking this to e-mail or a chat room.
It's
> >really
> >> >not appropriate for this newsgroup.
> >> >

> >> After all the bickering I see in here I would say it was
just
> >fine.
> >> Are you a moderator? No? I didn't think so. Call my ISP if
you
> >have a
> >> problem.
> >> As for Nicole I will let her decide that.
> >>
> >
> >Oh my goodness! I don't want to cause any problems, but this
is
> >alt.romance, right? What are you supposed to talk about here?
> >This is so upsetting. Jon, you sound very nice, but why did
that
> >person use the -ick word? I would rather talk here than in
> >e-mail, as my sister and I share the same account. Can't we
talk
> >here, Jon?
>

> We can do what ever you like hon. Anything!


Oh, good! Now then, I want to know all about you! Your favorite
color, favorite car, favorite meal, (I might just learn to cook
it, you know!) and what you honestly, truly love in a woman.
Now, I know looks are important to men, so I will e-mail you a
pic of me after I get to know you a little better, to see if I
suit your taste. Will you let me see a pic of you one day?


>

Aggy.UK

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On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:30:25 -0700, Laife <wind...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I thought you were a woman from the beginning.
>
>Some men don't think you're a woman because you're so blatant about
>sex. That would be my guess.
>
>hehehe ...
>
>Personally, I don't think you were blatant at all. Walk in my shoes and
>see how women blatantly are about sex, in real life.
>

walking in women shoes......hmmm often thought about that, .grin

To be serious, whatever is going on here, it reads as a good laugh. Is
Nicole falling for Jons charms too quickly ? is she a tease
?.......Are Nicole and Jon one and the same person ? Ahhh , watch this
space for future installments :-))

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Laife

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Jon wrote:

> One who will give me
> lots of sex

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it and more.

hehehe ...

--
Laife, worn down

Aggy.UK

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On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:15:45 -0500, Laife <wind...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Worn down already.....aww come on.......just what kind of shoes were
you wearing.........haha :-))


>
>
>

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Aggy.UK

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On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:40:02 GMT, na...@netcomuk.co.uk (Aggy.UK)
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:30:25 -0700, Laife <wind...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I thought you were a woman from the beginning.
>>
>>Some men don't think you're a woman because you're so blatant about
>>sex. That would be my guess.
>>
>>hehehe ...
>>
>>Personally, I don't think you were blatant at all. Walk in my shoes and
>>see how women blatantly are about sex, in real life.
>>
>
>walking in women shoes......hmmm often thought about that, .grin

opps!!!


>
>To be serious, whatever is going on here, it reads as a good laugh. Is
>Nicole falling for Jons charms too quickly ? is she a tease
>?.......Are Nicole and Jon one and the same person ? Ahhh , watch this

>space for future installments :-))
>
>Steve..
>
>ICQ #5719050
>www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Aggy.UK

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On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:51:43 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:


>I don't dance. My family is ok I guess. My father used to beat me a
>lot so I don't speak to him. My mom is an alcoholic. I stay alone
>pretty much most of the time. I want to make my own family.
>


Reading this thread, I can`t help thinking Nicole is the Dom and Jon
the sub of an already ongoing relationship :-)) And like Ive seen
before elsewhere playing out an event online :-)
Heh, or maybe I`m wrong.........I`m not perfect :-)

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Aggy.UK

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On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:40:11 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:


>>Reading this thread, I can`t help thinking Nicole is the Dom and Jon
>>the sub of an already ongoing relationship :-)) And like Ive seen
>>before elsewhere playing out an event online :-)
>>Heh, or maybe I`m wrong.........I`m not perfect :-)
>
>

>That shows in your posts.

On what basis do you make that claim


Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Elmer Fudd

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Jon heeft geschreven in bericht <37bb930a...@Bills-roses.com>...
>On 13 Aug 1999 17:36:30 GMT, "Nicole" <ns...@nospam.com>
>
>I want a woman who will return the love I give.One who will show me
>how proud she is of the success I have built. One who will give me
>lots of sex and one who loves rock and roll.
>
>I will send you a pic if you wish.
>
>Yours, Jon.

Oh Jon, I am becoming so wet from all this romantic talk. I want to be
your woman too, that is, if you believe I'm one. But I'm sure you do, hahahaha!
Elmer

Aggy.UK

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On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:40:11 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:11:12 GMT, na...@netcomuk.co.uk (Aggy.UK)

>
>>On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:51:43 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't dance. My family is ok I guess. My father used to beat me a
>>>lot so I don't speak to him. My mom is an alcoholic. I stay alone
>>>pretty much most of the time. I want to make my own family.
>>>
>>
>>

>>Reading this thread, I can`t help thinking Nicole is the Dom and Jon
>>the sub of an already ongoing relationship :-)) And like Ive seen
>>before elsewhere playing out an event online :-)
>>Heh, or maybe I`m wrong.........I`m not perfect :-)
>
>
>That shows in your posts.

Oh, and rather than starting off with an obvious insult, without any
stated basis.....why not try being a bit more humourous about the
situation. Do you think I was being deadly serious here Jon ?? See the
smileys ? Rather than a personal insult, you would have done much
better to come back with something more lighthearted.........

Nicole, this guy has no sense of humour.

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Laife

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nutm...@my-deja.com wrote:

> In article <37B329A7...@hotmail.com>,
> Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nut, I treat people accordingly. That is what some people may not
> > understand.
> >
>
> Well Laife, so do I, but I won't stoop to their level either.
>

That's good but someone has to get their hands dirty and take out the
garbage.

--
Laife


Aggy.UK

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On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:05:09 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:

>>Nicole, this guy has no sense of humour.
>

>You want humor? OK Hows this?

thats much better :-))

huge list of humourous asides snipped ------->
>
Steve..

ICQ #5719050
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nutm...@my-deja.com

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In article <37B5AACE...@hotmail.com>,

Heh, heh......yeah.
Call me sexist but I've always thought that was the man's job - even
though I've been doing it alot myself lately.

Nicole

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Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article
<37B14E77...@flash.net>...
>
>
> What will you do if you have a baby boy?
>
Mmmm, I'm thinking feed him, change his nappies, and give him
baths. Sound okay?


Nicole

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nutm...@my-deja.com wrote in article
<7os1kk$9eq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> In article <37B14E77...@flash.net>,
> aku...@flash.net wrote:
>
> > > I am a radical feminist, and also a swell dominatrix. By
the
> > > way, your sig is really annoying.


> >
> > What will you do if you have a baby boy?
>

> COME-ON!!
> A dominatrix who is too shy to dance?
>

Now, now, just because I know my way around a cat o' nine tails
and a set of nipple clamps does not mean that I can dance.
Silly!


Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<37B3C991...@hotmail.com>...


> I thought you were a woman from the beginning.
>
> Some men don't think you're a woman because you're so blatant
about
> sex. That would be my guess.
>
> hehehe ...
>

Why, thank you, Laife. These men need to get with the program!~
this is the '90s, after all.


Nicole

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Aggy.UK <na...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> To be serious, whatever is going on here, it reads as a good
laugh. Is
> Nicole falling for Jons charms too quickly ? is she a tease
> ?.......Are Nicole and Jon one and the same person ? Ahhh ,
watch this
> space for future installments :-))
>
> Steve..
>

No, silly, Jon and I are not the same person! That wouldn't be
very much fun at all, now would it? You silly thing!


Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37bb930a...@Bills-roses.com>...

> Red
>
> Mustang
>
> Steak,potatoe,crab legs,shrimp and lots of Oysters.


>
> I want a woman who will return the love I give.One who will
show me
> how proud she is of the success I have built. One who will
give me
> lots of sex and one who loves rock and roll.
>
> I will send you a pic if you wish.
>
> Yours, Jon.
>

Sweet, handsome Jon! You are in luck, I already know how to make
all your favorite dishes to perfection. Are fried oysters okay,
darling? And do you mind eating them down on the floor, with a
collar on? *EG*

You sound so perfect, I just can't get over it! I am very
loving, in fact, a bit too loving, if you know what I mean. ;)
Spare the rod, spoil the Jon! Ha ha ha ha ha, just teasing you,
sweetie. But I have been inspecting my collection of spike heels
and leather garter belts over the weekend, just in case we are
compatible in that way. :)

I am thinking of setting up a special e-mail account just for us
to exchange pics. What do you think of that? Then we'll know if
we can really "rock and roll."

Love, Nicole

Laife

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Nicole wrote:

> nutm...@my-deja.com wrote in article


> >
> > COME-ON!!
> > A dominatrix who is too shy to dance?
> >
>
> Now, now, just because I know my way around a cat o' nine tails
> and a set of nipple clamps does not mean that I can dance.
> Silly!

I find it odd that a dominatrix is too shy to learn how to dance. That
you don't know how to dance is not the question. A dominatrix being
embarrassed to make mistakes in front of people? Just curious.

Perhaps you can enlighten me on the d/s scene.

--
Laife


Laife

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Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
personality.

I think that women would be more open about sex if it weren't for men
like DB and Aaron, criticizing when they are honest. And then they
wonder why no woman ever gave them any.

They MAY CLAIM that they USED TO BE NICE GUYS. But I don't believe
that bullshit. As a matter of fact, DB still claimed to be a decent guy
until I pointed out so many facts that he wasn't. He then claims that
he used to be a decent guy. Can't even get their story straight.

DB claims to have a "wife" but that is doubtful.

Some people deserve the fate they set up for themselves.

Nicole wrote:

--
Laife


Aggy.UK

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On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:24:22 -0700, Laife <wind...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>> Now, now, just because I know my way around a cat o' nine tails
>> and a set of nipple clamps does not mean that I can dance.
>> Silly!
>
>I find it odd that a dominatrix is too shy to learn how to dance. That
>you don't know how to dance is not the question. A dominatrix being
>embarrassed to make mistakes in front of people? Just curious.
>
>Perhaps you can enlighten me on the d/s scene.
>
>--
>Laife

Heh yes Laife you dont quite understand.. Doms and Subs can be two
quite different people, the way the behave and feel in public, is
often no refelction of the way they behave once at home, in the
bedroom, or amongst other BDSM friends :-))


>
>

Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Aaron R. Kulkis

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Laife wrote:
>
> Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
> look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
> sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
> personality.

For first hand observations of my interactions with women in
public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or maybe
it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).

>
> I think that women would be more open about sex if it weren't for men
> like DB and Aaron, criticizing when they are honest. And then they
> wonder why no woman ever gave them any.

I have NEVER complained that I wasn't "getting any".
My complaint is that American women aren't worth the time,
and definitely not worth the money that they demand to have
showered upon them, nor the divorce risk, nor the self-righteous
attitudes.

>
> They MAY CLAIM that they USED TO BE NICE GUYS. But I don't believe
> that bullshit. As a matter of fact, DB still claimed to be a decent guy
> until I pointed out so many facts that he wasn't. He then claims that
> he used to be a decent guy. Can't even get their story straight.
>
> DB claims to have a "wife" but that is doubtful.
>
> Some people deserve the fate they set up for themselves.

And spin-meister liars such as yourself are at the top of that list.

>
> Nicole wrote:
>
> > Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > <37B3C991...@hotmail.com>...
> > > I thought you were a woman from the beginning.
> > >
> > > Some men don't think you're a woman because you're so blatant
> > about
> > > sex. That would be my guess.
> > >
> > > hehehe ...
> > >
> >
> > Why, thank you, Laife. These men need to get with the program!~
> > this is the '90s, after all.
>
> --
> Laife


--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

A: The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.

D: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.

Laife

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"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Laife wrote:
> >
> > Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
> > look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
> > sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
> > personality.
>
> For first hand observations of my interactions with women in
> public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or maybe
> it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).
>

I've read it. It said you disappeared. You could have went home. And her
too.

David was just being nice when he said that about you. He did NOT SEE YOU
GOING HOME OR LEAVING WITH HER, did he? No, I didn't think so.

Yes, David Shade think's so highly of your skills that he just go sarging with
you much, does he?

Does he feel that he owes something to society and has to repay it by letting
you hang out with him in the past? Sort of like helping the homeless and
stuff like that.

>
> >
> > I think that women would be more open about sex if it weren't for men
> > like DB and Aaron, criticizing when they are honest. And then they
> > wonder why no woman ever gave them any.
>
> I have NEVER complained that I wasn't "getting any".

Of course not. But you haven't.

>
> My complaint is that American women aren't worth the time,
> and definitely not worth the money that they demand to have
> showered upon them, nor the divorce risk, nor the self-righteous
> attitudes.
>

Maybe the women didn't want you in the first place except after they ran out
of all options. You have admitted this yourself? Right?

>
> >
> > They MAY CLAIM that they USED TO BE NICE GUYS. But I don't believe
> > that bullshit. As a matter of fact, DB still claimed to be a decent guy
> > until I pointed out so many facts that he wasn't. He then claims that
> > he used to be a decent guy. Can't even get their story straight.
> >
> > DB claims to have a "wife" but that is doubtful.
> >
> > Some people deserve the fate they set up for themselves.
>
> And spin-meister liars such as yourself are at the top of that list.
>

What about you?

--
Laife


Laife

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"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Laife wrote:
> >
> > Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
> > look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
> > sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
> > personality.
>
> For first hand observations of my interactions with women in
> public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or maybe
> it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).
>
> >

I read some of those posts when they were made. Your gig is to draw women.
Without that gig, David says that your attempts to talk with women have
drastically different results. I think NOTHING is the word. Correct me if
I'm wrong.

Just because women let you draw them doesn't mean anything. I don't remember
him saying that you can close the deal or that he's EVER SEEN YOU CLOSE A
DEAL. If I am wrong, then please point out exactly what David said.

--
Laife


radior...@webtv.net

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Aggy.UK

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On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:19:08 GMT, pops...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:31:57 -0400 (EDT), radior...@webtv.net
>
>>I am truely sorry for the hurt that you have gone through. I wish I
>>could say I know how you feel in your heart but I can't since I have
>>never been cheated on. I would imagine it feels just like when someone
>>you are dating says they don't think things will work out and dumps you
>>without any details as to why -- that has happened to me before -- and
>>that sucks.
>>
>>My name is Mike. I'm a 25 yo male, 5'8", 151lbs, brown hair and eyes,
>>slim/athletic build. I work in the security industry (making people safe
>>& secure), I'm an on-call firefighter, and have my own e-commerce
>>business. I also work part time at a radio station as a DJ not so much
>>for the money ( doesn't pay well at all...) but because I love music and
>>the kind of job it is.
>>
>>I have been single for about 1 1/2 years and have only been on one date
>>since, which was on NewYears 1999. I have been serching for a new
>>partner for quite some time with no luck. I consider myself a romantic
>>man with the desire to make a wmen feel special. That is what i consider
>>the "best kind of foreplay". Which leads to the best sex.......
>>
>>If you are interested email me for some online chatting....Who knows
>>what may happen!!!!!!!!!
>
>Back off bud. She's mine.

Has she said so on here yet...........?? I haven`t seen any such
protestation :-) So, come on, he was well within his rights to
proposition her., wasn`t he ? If Nicole does openly claim that she is
now the "property" of Jon, then he might consider backing off, ahhh
don`t you just love hormonal displays :-))
Steve..

ICQ #5719050
www.horrida.demon.co.uk/stev.html

Elmer Fudd

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>
>Back off bud. She's mine.

You mean "He's mine" hahahaha sucker.
Elmer

Elmer Fudd

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>On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:35:05 +0200, "Elmer Fudd" <efu...@hotmail.com>
>Suck this Fudd!!

Oooh it's sooo small.
Hahahaha
ELmer

Steve Caprio

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my name is Steve Caprio im 21 years old. Im Italian & Irish, 5-11,
175lbs, hazel eyes, light brown hair (shaved), tattoos and peircings. I
love to snowboard and draw cartoons....


Laife

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"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Laife wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the women didn't want you in the first place except after they ran out
> > of all options. You have admitted this yourself? Right?
>

> That is EXACTLY the point that I am addressing.
>
> They want to have a bunch of brats with DangerAssholes, THEN they
> want a decent man to take care of said brats, because DangerAsshole
> can't even be trusted to be in the same house as his own children.
>
> That's not a failure on MY part, that's a failure on the womens' part.
>

Right. There are a number of American women like this. But certainly not 99% like
you claim. Or anywhere close as far as I'm concerned.

--
Laife


Laife

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"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Laife wrote:
> >
> > Just because women let you draw them doesn't mean anything. I don't remember
> > him saying that you can close the deal or that he's EVER SEEN YOU CLOSE A
> > DEAL. If I am wrong, then please point out exactly what David said.
>

> When a woman asks me to draw her nude, then "the deal" has been closed
> before I've even moved in that direction.
>

Yes, a good close. :) Interesting. How does it go with these nude subjects?

--
Laife


Laife

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Nicole wrote:

> Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article

> <37B8AFD3...@flash.net>...
> > Laife wrote:
> > >
>
> Are you two married? You sure sound like it.

Well, I was trying to entice you into doing a threesome with us.

hehehe ...

--
Laife


Laife

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Nicole wrote:

> Steve Caprio <CARNIV...@webtv.net> wrote in article
> <21438-37...@newsd-293.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

> Hi, Steve! I know you must have noticed my other posts. *Blush.*
> Does the thought of a dominant woman do anything for you?

No, it doesn't do anything for me personally. I've changed my mind
about the threesome.

hehehe ...

--
Laife


Aaron R. Kulkis

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Laife wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Laife wrote:
> > >
> > > Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
> > > look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
> > > sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
> > > personality.
> >
> > For first hand observations of my interactions with women in
> > public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or maybe
> > it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).
> >
>
> I've read it. It said you disappeared. You could have went home. And her
> too.
>
> David was just being nice when he said that about you. He did NOT SEE YOU
> GOING HOME OR LEAVING WITH HER, did he? No, I didn't think so.
>
> Yes, David Shade think's so highly of your skills that he just go sarging with
> you much, does he?
>
> Does he feel that he owes something to society and has to repay it by letting
> you hang out with him in the past? Sort of like helping the homeless and
> stuff like that.
>
> >
> > >
> > > I think that women would be more open about sex if it weren't for men
> > > like DB and Aaron, criticizing when they are honest. And then they
> > > wonder why no woman ever gave them any.
> >
> > I have NEVER complained that I wasn't "getting any".
>
> Of course not. But you haven't.

Your insinuation. Not reality.

>
> >
> > My complaint is that American women aren't worth the time,
> > and definitely not worth the money that they demand to have
> > showered upon them, nor the divorce risk, nor the self-righteous
> > attitudes.
> >
>

> Maybe the women didn't want you in the first place except after they ran out
> of all options. You have admitted this yourself? Right?

That is EXACTLY the point that I am addressing.

They want to have a bunch of brats with DangerAssholes, THEN they
want a decent man to take care of said brats, because DangerAsshole
can't even be trusted to be in the same house as his own children.

That's not a failure on MY part, that's a failure on the womens' part.

>
> >
> > >


> > > They MAY CLAIM that they USED TO BE NICE GUYS. But I don't believe
> > > that bullshit. As a matter of fact, DB still claimed to be a decent guy
> > > until I pointed out so many facts that he wasn't. He then claims that
> > > he used to be a decent guy. Can't even get their story straight.
> > >
> > > DB claims to have a "wife" but that is doubtful.
> > >
> > > Some people deserve the fate they set up for themselves.
> >
> > And spin-meister liars such as yourself are at the top of that list.
> >
>
> What about you?
>
> --
> Laife

Aaron R. Kulkis

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Laife wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Laife wrote:
> > >
> > > Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being in their 30's,
> > > look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that someone is getting
> > > sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of their nasty
> > > personality.
> >
> > For first hand observations of my interactions with women in
> > public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or maybe
> > it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).
> >
> > >
>
> I read some of those posts when they were made. Your gig is to draw women.
> Without that gig, David says that your attempts to talk with women have
> drastically different results. I think NOTHING is the word. Correct me if
> I'm wrong.

I use and capitalize on the most effective tools that I have available.

Some people think that it's important to forego all "hooks" in favor
of the equivalent of the salesman's cold-call.

This would be the same as saying that the Rangers and Seals are pussies
because they take their opponents by surprise, rather than engaging
in frontal assaults with no cover.

I know my strengths and weaknesses. I play off of my strengths,
and I avoid my weaknesses. In a night-club setting, doing a cold
"walk-up" is the STUPIDEST thing for me to do. Women keep a mile-long
list of rejection responses based on that approach. Again, the
frontal assault is for masochists.

>
> Just because women let you draw them doesn't mean anything. I don't remember
> him saying that you can close the deal or that he's EVER SEEN YOU CLOSE A
> DEAL. If I am wrong, then please point out exactly what David said.

When a woman asks me to draw her nude, then "the deal" has been closed
before I've even moved in that direction.


>

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37c8c088...@Bills-roses.com>...
> On 15 Aug 1999 04:43:23 GMT, "Nicole" <nos...@nospam.com>

>
> >
> >
> >Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article
> ><37bb930a...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >
> >> Red
> >>
> >> Mustang
> >>
> >> Steak,potatoe,crab legs,shrimp and lots of Oysters.
> >>
> >> I want a woman who will return the love I give.One who will
> >show me
> >> how proud she is of the success I have built. One who will
> >give me
> >> lots of sex and one who loves rock and roll.
> >>
> >> I will send you a pic if you wish.
> >>
> >> Yours, Jon.
> >>
> >
> >Sweet, handsome Jon! You are in luck, I already know how to
make
> >all your favorite dishes to perfection. Are fried oysters
okay,
> >darling? And do you mind eating them down on the floor, with
a
> >collar on? *EG*
>

> I want them raw so I can carry you all night long.
> >

Oh, my! And you wonder why I get carried away!


> >You sound so perfect, I just can't get over it! I am very
> >loving, in fact, a bit too loving, if you know what I mean.
;)
> >Spare the rod, spoil the Jon! Ha ha ha ha ha, just teasing
you,
> >sweetie. But I have been inspecting my collection of spike
heels
> >and leather garter belts over the weekend, just in case we
are
> >compatible in that way. :)
>

> Can we just get to know each other first?
> >

Why, yes, of course! I don't want you to think I'm only after
one thing. I'm really after two things: love and fantabulous
sex, you big lovable hunk you.

Nicole

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Aaron R. Kulkis <aku...@flash.net> wrote in article
<37B8AFD3...@flash.net>...

> Laife wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > > Laife wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Some of the men here are still virgins. Despite being
in their 30's,
> > > > look at Aaron. I think they are just jealous that
someone is getting
> > > > sex and they're been rejected as sex partners because of
their nasty
> > > > personality.
> > >
> > > For first hand observations of my interactions with women
in
> > > public, read David Shade's post "I gotta get a gig" (or
maybe
> > > it was "I gotta getta gig", it's been a while).
> > >
> >

Are you two married? You sure sound like it.

Nicole

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Jon <pops...@yahoo.com> wrote in article

<37c0988f...@Bills-roses.com>...
> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:35:05 +0200, "Elmer Fudd"
<efu...@hotmail.com>
>
>
> >Jon heeft geschreven in bericht
<37c0f39b...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >>
> >>Back off bud. She's mine.
> >
> >You mean "He's mine" hahahaha sucker.
> >Elmer
> >
> Suck this Fudd!!
>

Elmer. You are going to force me to prove my gender by posting a
lengthy, detailed discussion of what it is *really like* to have
a yeast infection. Is that what you really want? Think about it.


Nicole

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Nicole

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Elmer Fudd <efu...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<37b88626$0$12...@reader1.casema.net>...


> Jon heeft geschreven in bericht
<37c0988f...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:35:05 +0200, "Elmer Fudd"
<efu...@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> >>Jon heeft geschreven in bericht
<37c0f39b...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >>>
> >>>Back off bud. She's mine.
> >>
> >>You mean "He's mine" hahahaha sucker.
> >>Elmer
> >>
> >Suck this Fudd!!
>

> Oooh it's sooo small.
> Hahahaha
> ELmer
>
>

Get that wabbitt, yet, pansy boy?
>

Nicole

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Elmer Fudd <efu...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

<37b8685f$0$11...@reader1.casema.net>...


> Jon heeft geschreven in bericht

<37c0f39b...@Bills-roses.com>...
> >
> >Back off bud. She's mine.
>
> You mean "He's mine" hahahaha sucker.
> Elmer
>
>
>

You want me, don't you, little man? ;--)~~~~

Elmer Fudd

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I do! I'd sooner believe you're a wabbit than a woman!
Elmer

Laife

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Nicole wrote:

> Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> >

> I like honesty. Wanna dominate me? I can go both ways, for the
> right man.
>

Hmmm. That would sound interesting. Unfortunately, I don't so s/m or
d/s. Though I do like it when women surrender completely to me. Then
we could take turns dominating each other. That would be more fun.

--
Laife


Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

<37B8EB65...@hotmail.com>...

> Well, I was trying to entice you into doing a threesome with
us.
>
> hehehe ...
>
> --

You, me and Jon, maybe. Aaron, no. Aren't you the adventurous
one . . . hmmmm.


Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

<37B8EBD4...@hotmail.com>...

> No, it doesn't do anything for me personally. I've changed my
mind
> about the threesome.
>

I like honesty. Wanna dominate me? I can go both ways, for the
right man.


> hehehe ...
>
> --
> Laife
>
>
>
>

Nicole

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Elmer Fudd <efu...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

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Hahaha!
>

Nicole

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Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article

<37BA238F...@hotmail.com>...


> Nicole wrote:
>
> > Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > >

> > I like honesty. Wanna dominate me? I can go both ways, for
the
> > right man.
> >
>

> Hmmm. That would sound interesting. Unfortunately, I don't
so s/m or
> d/s. Though I do like it when women surrender completely to
me. Then
> we could take turns dominating each other. That would be more
fun.
>
> --
> Laife
>

I'm

very

flexible.


Make me surrender. :)

hackergen

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Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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Nicole wrote:

> Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> <37BA238F...@hotmail.com>...
> > Nicole wrote:
> >
> > > Laife <wind...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > > >
> > > I like honesty. Wanna dominate me? I can go both ways, for
> the
> > > right man.
> > >
> >
> > Hmmm. That would sound interesting. Unfortunately, I don't
> so s/m or
> > d/s. Though I do like it when women surrender completely to
> me. Then
> > we could take turns dominating each other. That would be more
> fun.
> >
> > --
> > Laife
> >
>
> I'm
>
> very
>
> flexible.
>
> Make me surrender. :)

hi all...

have u ever been betrayed?
pls share ur xperience....cuz i'm a victim


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