Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Still Life and No Security

0 views
Skip to first unread message

ShawnMckelvey

unread,
Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
to
How about these two? Still Life is a personal favorite of mine siince it was
out when I was in 7th grade. Tatto You was still big as was SMU. I'd just found
out about them in 6/81, and when this came out it was great to know that this
was something totally current and happening RIGHT NOW, not some re-living it
through Ya Ya's over and over. I had no idea that it wouldn't always be like
this, either. Trying to get excited about UC, Rewind, She's TB, DW,LW, & PCool
for 5 yrs in a row was tough, plus State of Shock and Mick with Hall and Oates
Live Aid. Talk is cheap saved the day. No Security, on the other hand didn't do
that for me. It didn't represent what was to come in the No Security tour very
much, and it didn't rep the B2B tour very well either. It felt pretty hollow
and sterile, especially compared to what I thought was an awesome 1-2 punch w/
VL/ Stripped. B2B/NS coulda been as great but wasn't for me, especially
considering the material available at the time. They also should have released
Saint of Me 1st instead of ASMB. Well..., see y'all. All right ...Shawn

keef

unread,
Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
to

ShawnMckelvey wrote:
>
> How about these two? Still Life is a personal favorite of mine siince it was
> out when I was in 7th grade.

I've always liked STILL LIFE. "Under My Thumb" and "Start Me Up" are
really good. "Time Is On My Side" is nearly as good as the studio
version. Overall, it's much better than FLASHPOINT, in my opinion. But
I know most Stones fans disagree. It's just one more vastly underrated
Stones album. Musically, it's pretty stripped down and raw. Jagger's
vocals are a little too raw though. During that period, he didn't do
much singing. Mostly just barking and shouting. He's really improved
his live vocals over the years. Personally, I think he's never sung
better than he has the past couple of tours...


> Trying to get excited about UC, Rewind, She's TB, DW,LW, & PCool
> for 5 yrs in a row was tough, plus State of Shock and Mick with Hall and Oates
> Live Aid.

Personally, I really like UNDERCOVER. It was a bit of a letdown coming
after a great album like TATTOO YOU, but it wasn't a bad album like the
general consensus tell us. I agree about the other albums during that
period. DIRTY WORK, in particular, was an all time low. SHE'S THE BOSS
was just too bland and overproduced. PRIMITIVE COOL had some good
moments, but was just too wimpy for my tastes. I personally liked
Mick's Live Aid performances. The low point for me there was the
Keith--Ronnie--Dylan fiasco. That was pretty bad...

> Talk is cheap saved the day.

The best Stones related project of the decade besides TATTOO YOU. Why
didn't Keith save some of those great riffs for future Stones albums
though? The guitar sound on that album was excellent. His tone hasn't
been as good since...

> No Security, on the other hand didn't do
> that for me. It didn't represent what was to come in the No Security tour very
> much, and it didn't rep the B2B tour very well either.

I liked that album, but I now wish that they had waited until after the
NS tour to release a live album. The best Stones tour since '72-'73 and
like that tour, no live album from it. The two best Stones tours ever
and no official live product out there from either of one. There isn't
even a great quality bootleg out there of NS.

> It felt pretty hollow
> and sterile, especially compared to what I thought was an awesome 1-2 punch w/
> VL/ Stripped.

Those albums along with Mick's WANDERING SPIRIT and Keith's MAIN
OFFENDER represent the second golden age for Stones/Stones related
music, in my opinion...

> B2B/NS coulda been as great but wasn't for me, especially
> considering the material available at the time. They also should have released
> Saint of Me 1st instead of ASMB.

The B2B album was good, but could've been so much better. It suffers
from overproduction and a weak guitar sound. Most fans blame Mick, but
I think Keith should shoulder as much or more of the blame for the
results. He was so critical of Mick's work with the Dust Brothers, but
it's his own work that bogs the album down. I actually like most of the
Dust Brothers material. Keith's three songs are the weakest tracks on
the album, and his guitar tone just doesn't sound right most of the
time. Where was he on "Out Of Control?" If he's on it, I can't hear
him. "Lowdown" goes nowhere, and his sound on "Flip The Switch" is tiny
and thin. Mick saves the day most of the time with his great vocals.
"Saint Of Me" is great and I even like the experimental "Might As Well
Get Juiced."


Keef

Mack4evr

unread,
Mar 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/12/00
to
I enjoy listening to Still Life. I really like that CD. Going to a Go-Go is
always fun to listen to. Under My Thumb is a great opener. I like Mick's
"Welcome to everyone watching on TV, having a good time drinking a few beers
and smoking a few joints at home, all right..." Hehe! I thought Satisfaction
was done terribly and way, way too fast. I didn't think it needed to be
included on that CD.

keef <luc...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:38C14FBF...@mindspring.com...

0 new messages