Setlist last night
Fistmaster
Down. Can anyone confirm?
The Fistmaster
The Mighty T.B.
> There's rumours that they replace DDDDC with Sin City and DED with Go
> Down. Can anyone confirm?
Same set as the last few montsh. No change.
T.B.
JgbIntBass
Rumor has it that rumor is only rumor and the night of October 16 at
Verizon Center in Washington, D.C., they did play Dirty Deeds Done
Cheap and Dog Eat Dog, not Sin City or Go Down. I admit that I was
kind of hoping they'd play Moneytalks in relation to the current
financial situation and a fellow seated behind me kept yelling out
"Play Night Prowler"! If there's any city where they'd play Sin City
or Moneytalks, it would be Las Vegas with the rescheduled date being
announced being all I need to book my next Vegas vacation which won't
hurt me too much in the wallet since in early August, I earned two
roundtrip tickets (one Ameican, one United) to be used within a year
due to being bumped. From my recent vacation, scheduled to include
October 3 when they were supposed to play Las Vegas, on my flights
back, I was bumped yet again and got another roundtrip ticket and even
better, not only got upgraded to First Class (seat 3B) but also got
back 2 hours and 15 minutes before I was originally supposed to arrive
at Reagan National Airport. To make this an even greater deal, my
original flights were booked with frequent flyer miles with thus $15
total being my cost for the flight (for Delta on the way out;
Northwest, people flying via frequent flyer miles get baggage for
free).
I find that a CD player that can play CD-Rs is quite helpful while
on a layover. So far, Dallas and Chicago are my favorite connections
with prices at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport for say McDonald's only being
20 cents more than at a regular McDonald's. At Chicago O'Hare, I like
going to around gate K4 or so where there's a place called Burrito
Beach which is equivalent to Chipotle in quality; Chipotle at 19th and
M Streets, NW, in D.C. is where I ate around 6 p.m. on October 16
before the concert and sadly, they've cleaned up D.C. a little too
much. I went and bought a 24-oz. can of Modelo for $3 (way cheaper
than $6-8 for a 12-oz. brew at Verizon Center) and couldn't hardly
find a place to consume it. Used to be that there were several places
where one could drink a beer and no one incl. the police hassling you,
but it wasn't until I found a place south of Chinatown when I consumed
the brew.
Methinks Dan Snyder, owner of the Washington Redskins football team,
is hoping to clean up on beer sales to drown fans' sorrows but he's
having no luck of it. Good that he lost out majorly in his company's
ownership of Six Flags amusement parks and if you didn't know already,
his company also owns Johnny Rockets which manages to offend with a
slogan of "The Original Hamburger" even though they readily admit to
the restaurant starting in 1986.
There's Gonna Be Some Rockin'...
P.S. Here's hoping http://www.blabbermouth.net is back up soon. In
the meantime, http://www.hardradio.com is still up.
badlands420
> I find that a CD player that can play CD-Rs is quite helpful while
on a layover.
You still carry CDs around?
JgbIntBass
In a carry-on usually about maybe 5-7 CDs of which I some I have
removed from their original thick-CD packaging to the slim-CD
packaging. MP3 formats are not the greatest since there is some loss
in quality that to some isn't noticeable (sp?) and I've heard it can
be a hassle converting from CD to a format that an iPod can use.
Just changing a CD can change one's mood. Nostradamus isn't the
greatest two-CD album but does contain a variety of styles. I've been
carrying Black Ice on CD for most of the year in my carry-on, along
with For Those About to Rock We Salute You and also the Australian
edition of Stiff Upper Lip.
A former co-worker who is boss of his Office located in Idaho just
got back from Australia and mentioned prices for CDs are about a 1/3
higher there thus he waited until he got back to the U.S. before he
made his CD purchases. I did provide a sheet with color scans of the
Australian High Voltage, DDDDC, and Let There Be Rock but from what he
told me, he didn't buy them over there. I hadn't known he had gone
back to Australia and if I had, I'd have sent him some money to buy a
couple of CDs. Did have him search for a certain book about an alien
abduction case in Australia but lowest price he's seen for that book
was equivalent to $200 U.S.
badlands420
>MP3 formats are not the greatest since there is some loss
>in quality that to some isn't noticeable (sp?)
There are plenty of lossless and near-lossless formats to choose from. Only
teenagers and dumbasses use MP3.
>and I've heard it can
>be a hassle converting from CD to a format that an iPod can use.
What idiot did you hear this from, and why did you believe it? You throw a
CD in the drive, iTunes asks if you want to import it, you say yes, then
you're done. Way the fuck less of a hassle than carrying around a stack of
CDs everywhere.
Amy Jenner
Yes, that's just stupid!
The Mighty T.B.
> > I find that a CD player that can play CD-Rs is quite helpful while
>
> on a layover.
>
> You still carry CDs around?
In a carry-on usually about maybe 5-7 CDs of which I some I have
removed from their original thick-CD packaging to the slim-CD
packaging. MP3 formats are not the greatest since there is some loss
in quality that to some isn't noticeable (sp?) and I've heard it can
be a hassle converting from CD to a format that an iPod can use.
(snip)
No offense but you're very uninformed.
While it is true that MP3 files, especially those compressed below 256 will
start sounding noticeably crappy the more compressed the audio file is, you
can simply save a cd track(s) or a whole cd in lossless WAV file format
which an iPod or most other portable digital audio players recognize and
play and there's absolutely no difference in sound quality compared to a cd
track. And even if you want to convert cd files to MP3, it's really not
rocket science and there's plenty of easy-to-use freeware to do so. It's
about as tough as saving a formatted Word document as a plain Text document.
I'm a huge stickler for audio fidelity and I use a 160GB iPod Classic loaded
only with WAV files ripped from hundreds of bands and thousands of cds in my
personal collection. Coupled with dozens of play lists I've put together, I
never run out of listening options and I have all the music I can possibly
want at my fingertip. Plus, not only can I listen through headphones, but I
plug it in through a jack in my car to my Alpine receiver and can listen to
tunes off it while I'm in the car.
And ripped tracks off my cds or whole cds and saving them to an external
hard drive is a piece of cake. There's tons of freeware out there to do
this if you don't want to deal with buying some name brand software like
Nero that you may consider to be clunky bloatware. I also burn cds to carry
in my other car or bring to the office - when an iPod is not an option.
Again, I don't screw with MP3 files, everything's a WAV file or a direct
clone of the original cd. Thus I never risk scratching or losing my
original cds. A copy gets scratched, stolen or someone really likes it and
I give it to 'em - no big deal, I'll burn another one at home. Blank cd
media is dirt cheap these days.
I will say this - I am not a big fan of iTunes. Some aspects of the
application are very clunky and user-unfriendly, but once you understand and
become proficient with it, the issues aren't really a problem.
T.B.
badlands420
> I'm a huge stickler for audio fidelity and I use a 160GB iPod Classic
> loaded
> only with WAV files ripped from hundreds of bands and thousands of cds in
> my personal collection.
With all due respect, you don't have thousands of CDs on your iPod if you're
ripping WAV files. Between 300 and 400 maybe.
> I will say this - I am not a big fan of iTunes. Some aspects of the
> application are very clunky and user-unfriendly, but once you understand
> and become proficient with it, the issues aren't really a problem.
I've been using it for around five years and it's never been insufficient
for my needs. There are some things about it that are annoying, but not
annoying enough to switch platforms. In my experience, when people bitch
about how much iTunes sucks, it's because they've got no clue how to use it
and they're too dumb to learn.
The Mighty T.B.
>> I'm a huge stickler for audio fidelity and I use a 160GB iPod Classic
>> loaded
>> only with WAV files ripped from hundreds of bands and thousands of cds in
>> my personal collection.
>
> With all due respect, you don't have thousands of CDs on your iPod if
> you're ripping WAV files. Between 300 and 400 maybe.
I literally do have "thousands" of cds in *my personal collection.* Some I
may have ripped and load a single song onto my pc and thus my iPod, some
I've ripped several tunes or even an entire album and have it on my iPod. I
have just over 3,750 Wav files on my iPod.
>> I will say this - I am not a big fan of iTunes. Some aspects of the
>> application are very clunky and user-unfriendly, but once you understand
>> and become proficient with it, the issues aren't really a problem.
>
> I've been using it for around five years and it's never been insufficient
> for my needs. There are some things about it that are annoying, but not
> annoying enough to switch platforms. In my experience, when people bitch
> about how much iTunes sucks, it's because they've got no clue how to use
> it and they're too dumb to learn.
True to an extent, but when it's pretty easy for a novice to accidently wipe
their iPod clean of music, there's a bit of a problem (never happened with
me but that's a common complaint).
T.B.
badlands420
> wipe their iPod clean of music, there's a bit of a problem (never happened
> with me but that's a common complaint).
I have no empathy for people who wipe their iPod because they didn't want to
spend five minutes reading the iTunes tutorial. That's an act of stupidity.
JgbIntBass
wrote:
Consider me now more informed. On use of an iPod, I've been a
Luddite... and that technology has definitely advanced since the first
iPod came out. Will definitely check into good pricing for iPods and
the various versions... and hope the 'new and improved' syndrome
doesn't occur such as a newer, cheaper, and improved version doesn't
get released the week or month after I purchase one.
drdrew
a 160 gig Ipod because it seems I only get about 2-3 years out of
mine before they die. 160 gigs by the way is hard as hell to fill
up for me. It's SOOO much room I even put my kids RAP music on it
just because I have the space and so when we go somewhere they can
have junk to listen to
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badlands420
> 160 gigs by the way is hard as hell to fill
> up for me.
Spoken like an MP3/AAC user.
Personally, my library's at least twice the size of my 160, but I rip
everything Apple Lossless.
drdrew
recordings
Oscar DeLaToilet
>I'll admit it...I've wiped out the IPOD a few times. I just bought
>a 160 gig Ipod because it seems I only get about 2-3 years out of
>mine before they die. 160 gigs by the way is hard as hell to fill
>up for me. It's SOOO much room I even put my kids RAP music on it
>just because I have the space and so when we go somewhere they can
>have junk to listen to
>
>
You let your kids listen to (C)rap music? That's practically child
abuse.
badlands420
> You let your kids listen to (C)rap music? That's practically child
> abuse.
I'd never tell my kids what kind of music they were allowed to listen to,
but I'll be damned if I'd ever allow rap on my iPod.
drdrew
songs mainly cause he is funny. Also Jurassic 5 are ok.
badlands420
>I don't like rap very much. I can say I do like quite a few Eminem
> songs mainly cause he is funny. Also Jurassic 5 are ok.
Just out of curiosity, do your kids listen to anything of value?
drdrew
oldest daughter likes bands like hollywood undead, slipknot, and
bring the horizon. I try not to think of my generation as better
music than theirs. I like a few songs by these guys. Hollywood
undead and a band called panic at the disco she likes and I sort of
like them I guess. I don't try to fit in with the young kids music
but instead "give it a chance" I guess. But put it this way, when
they AREN'T in the car and my IPOD shuffles to one of the songs of
"their generation" I usually flip to the next song if that makes any
sense
badlands420
> Of value...you mean from our era?
Oh, heavens no. Our era is a generally a wasteland of awfulness. I'm talking
about exposing your kids to the music that really matters, specifically the
blues and early rock of the 50s and 60s, the music that created (and is
still better than) everything that came after.
drdrew
more modern blues. Robert Johnson mainly is the old school guy I
play since he is my favorite but at that age, I didn't know who he
was and probably wouldn't have cared either. I use the plant the
seed now and the tree will grow later mindset with them. Older
blues guys, the 3 kings ( B.B., Freddie and Albert) buddy guy,
muddy, albert collins dudes like that I play all the time for them.
Those are the blues players I like alot. Now Stevie Ray Vaughan and
Chris Duarte the modern blues guys they like. I think though later
in their 20's and 30's they will appreciate it more. It took me
finding Stevie Ray Vaughan to learn about all the other guys. The
kids may or may not find this music to interest them in the future,
time will tell
tomScotland
> Hmmm, well I try to play them some old school blues stuff but mainly
> more modern blues. Robert Johnson mainly is the old school guy I
> play since he is my favorite but at that age, I didn't know who he
> was and probably wouldn't have cared either. I use the plant the
> seed now and the tree will grow later mindset with them. Older
> blues guys, the 3 kings ( B.B., Freddie and Albert) buddy guy,
> muddy, albert collins dudes like that I play all the time for them.
> Those are the blues players I like alot. Now Stevie Ray Vaughan and
> Chris Duarte the modern blues guys they like. I think though later
> in their 20's and 30's they will appreciate it more. It took me
> finding Stevie Ray Vaughan to learn about all the other guys. The
> kids may or may not find this music to interest them in the future,
> time will tell
SRV - I just don't get that guy at all. I get my white-boy-blues fix from
Peter Green and Rory Gallagher, am I missing something? Where should I start
with srv? From what I've heard of him (his cover of Little Wing etc) he adds
far too much flash. And to think Gary Moore gets a hard time for over
playing!
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badlands420
> SRV - I just don't get that guy at all. I get my white-boy-blues fix from
> Peter Green and Rory Gallagher, am I missing something?
SRV doesn't do a whole lot for me either. You're right about too much flash.
Clapton's always had the same problem. If we're talking white blues
guitarists, give me Mike Bloomfield or early Johnny Winter over those guys
any day.
Other white bluesmen who deserve a shout out: Paul Butterfield, Jerry
Portnoy, Charlie Musselwhite, Paul Oscher.
Bluuzer®
Guy's "Mary Had A Little Lamb" from the Austin City Limits outtakes is just
awesome.
Also, his version of Tin Pan Alley from the 1980 radio broadcast is
stunning.
Listening to his last album, In Step, one can only imagine where he would
have taken roots rock/blues, had he still lived. The solo on Tightrope alone
speaks for itself. Stunning. His vocals on Leave My Girl Alone is fantastic.
In my books he definetly was one of a kind.
His brother Jimmy is great also, although in his case he's maybe pushing
minimalism a bit too far... (and should leave the singing to others...:-)
drdrew
Poor guy looks lost up on stage.
drdrew
on youtube...especially the song texas flood from this concert. I
couldn't imagine ANYONE ever saying this doesn't make them say holy
shit, especially the solo. Yeah Yeah he plays behind his back like
Hendrix so what just listen to it. As far as Jimmy Vaughan, I find
him to be pretty aweful. Singing isn't in tune really and his
playing, I can honestly say I can play as good as him. Maybe I
like the flashy playing after all or at least the intensity of
Stevie's playing
Bluuzer®
> him to be pretty aweful. Singing isn't in tune really and his
> playing, I can honestly say I can play as good as him.
Jimmy sure CAN play in the same style as brother Stevie or other
flashier, faster, more energetic type of players. He has, however, opted
for a very minimalistic, micro-tonality approch to playing blues guitar.
Pauses are also music. It's all about timing and feel
;-)
erbacide
Johnny Lang is also a great young white blues player. His rock is good
also. Now to keep him away from religion.......
Erbacide
drdrew
anything of his since his 3rd album. His first 2 were pretty good
TV
extremely high respect, as has every guitarist of note (he was Angus'
favorite guitarist besides Mal around 1989). I don't find him flashy, just
really, really, really good. At times he's blazing, but other times he
plays that Strato-piano (strings are like piano wires) in deep, low-down
blues that just sound so rich and mellow. Awesome stuff. While there may
be rivals for my favorite overall blues artist, he's easily my favorite
blues guitarist.
TV
badlands420
> While there may
> be rivals for my favorite overall blues artist, he's easily my favorite
> blues guitarist.
Further evidence that your familiarity with the blues guitarists who really
matter (i.e. the guys SRV got all his licks from) is sorely lacking.
TV
Or that you're just a musical snob. :) Who did they get their licks from?
Who inspired Muddy, Howlin', BB, or especially for SRV, Albert? Do you
listen to those guys? Or the guys who inspired those guys who inspired the
guys who inspired SRV?
I'd say that Angus is my favorite rock guitarist (along with Malcolm) even
though I'm well aware of his/their debt to Chuck Berry. Even right down to
the duck walk. Hell, go back far enough and everyone who really mattered
played by banging two rocks together! :)
So yeah, I'm quite familiar with the guys who inspired SRV. I even like
them. But I prefer SRV over any of them as a guitarist. And all of them
who were alive gave real credit to SRV's playing when he passed on. If you
don't like SRV as much as them, no worries, your choice. But don't pretend
it's based on a "purer" or more informed opinion. That's very unBads-like
of you.
TV
erbacide
> Is jonny lang doing gospel now? I haven't heard or followed
> anything of his since his 3rd album. His first 2 were pretty good
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He put out a few songs that seemed to lean in that direction, but I
think he has come back over to the dark side now
Erbacide
drdrew
up from doesn't make much sense. However with that in mind, SRV ran
with it and brought it to 10 new levels. SRV had it all. He played
with more emotion than anyone and could actually play well. His
singing was great too. To me he was better than hendrix 10 fold
except his song writing and of course Hendrix was pretty innovative.
Hendrix was a poet. SRV was getting better with his song writing
too before he died.
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badlands420
> Or that you're just a musical snob. :) Who did they get their licks from?
SRV is mainly the descendant of Albert King, Hubert Sumlin, and Buddy Guy.
> Who inspired Muddy, Howlin', BB, or especially for SRV, Albert? Do you
> listen to those guys?
I'm not much of a BB King fan (too many horn sections, chick backup singers,
and other such crap), but otherwise yes. I listen to Muddy and Wolf pretty
much every day.
>Or the guys who inspired those guys who inspired the guys who inspired SRV?
You mean Charley Patton, Robert Johnson, Son House, etc.? Of course I listen
to those guys. Charley Patton personally taught Howlin' Wolf to sing and
play guitar, and many of Wolf's best-known songs are adaptations of Patton
numbers.