I copypaste this from another forum (Risingpower.net):
"We're in for a treat with Black Ice. Brendan O'Brien really nailed the sound; sonically, it's got the clarity of Powerage mixed with a hint of the live massivenes of For Those About To Rock, without the cannonfire snare. The entire mix is right up in your face. The tandem guitar tone is killer. Phil's snare sounds like it could kill from fifty paces. The kick drum felt like it was hitting you in the chest. The bass sits perfectly in the mix, and you can hear every note that Cliff plays. And Brian sounds great. Everything is crystal clear.
I got to hear eight of the fifteen songs: "Rock N Roll Train", "Skies On Fire", "Anything Goes", "War Machine", "She Likes Rock N Roll" and "Money Made", and clips of two others.
Of the eight, four stood out to me, though they were all really good songs.
Rock N Roll Train is every bit as good as everyone has said. Killer riff and a great sing-along decending vocal line in the chorus. There's no real solo to speak of, but what Angus plays during the breakdown fits the song perfectly.
Money Made is a slower blues track, but very powerful. Brian really shines on it, and he's mixed right up front. The song made me think that these guys could be the best blues band in the world if they wanted to be.
Anything Goes sounds as unique as anything that they've done. Chiming guitars, and Brian sings a very melodic vocal line. I'd be surprised if it wasn't released as a single at some point.
War Machine was the heaviest track that I heard. It's kind of a mix between Given The Dog A Bone and Hail Caesar.
There was an earlier post about the Rolling Stone review about She Likes Rock N Roll being an instant stripper classic, and they're right. It's got a great groove.
Skies On Fire is another muscular track with a killer riff and great vocals from Brian.
I was really curious to hear Decibel, with the reports of Angus on slide guitar, but that wasn't one of the tracks that they had.
I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with silver, and one with yellow. The back cover repeats the silhouette-in- the-cog motif with Malcolm in the position that Angus is on the front. Brian, Phil and Cliff are also represented on the back."
>I copypaste this from another forum (Risingpower.net):
> "We're in for a treat with Black Ice. Brendan O'Brien really nailed > the sound; sonically, it's got the clarity of Powerage mixed with a > hint of the live massivenes of For Those About To Rock, without the > cannonfire snare. The entire mix is right up in your face. The tandem > guitar tone is killer. Phil's snare sounds like it could kill from > fifty paces. The kick drum felt like it was hitting you in the chest. > The bass sits perfectly in the mix, and you can hear every note that > Cliff plays. And Brian sounds great. Everything is crystal clear.
> I got to hear eight of the fifteen songs: "Rock N Roll Train", "Skies > On Fire", "Anything Goes", "War Machine", "She Likes Rock N Roll" and > "Money Made", and clips of two others.
> Of the eight, four stood out to me, though they were all really good > songs.
> Rock N Roll Train is every bit as good as everyone has said. Killer > riff and a great sing-along decending vocal line in the chorus. > There's no real solo to speak of, but what Angus plays during the > breakdown fits the song perfectly.
> Money Made is a slower blues track, but very powerful. Brian really > shines on it, and he's mixed right up front. The song made me think > that these guys could be the best blues band in the world if they > wanted to be.
> Anything Goes sounds as unique as anything that they've done. Chiming > guitars, and Brian sings a very melodic vocal line. I'd be surprised > if it wasn't released as a single at some point.
> War Machine was the heaviest track that I heard. It's kind of a mix > between Given The Dog A Bone and Hail Caesar.
> There was an earlier post about the Rolling Stone review about She > Likes Rock N Roll being an instant stripper classic, and they're > right. It's got a great groove.
> Skies On Fire is another muscular track with a killer riff and great > vocals from Brian.
> I was really curious to hear Decibel, with the reports of Angus on > slide guitar, but that wasn't one of the tracks that they had.
> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better > embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are > going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with > silver, and one with yellow. The back cover repeats the silhouette-in- > the-cog motif with Malcolm in the position that Angus is on the front. > Brian, Phil and Cliff are also represented on the back."
> Sounds pretty promising I'd say.
> The Fistmaster
Awesome. I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but this sounds promising. I was happy that there would be a tour, but may be... just may be this will be a really enjoyable album.
>I copypaste this from another forum (Risingpower.net):
> "We're in for a treat with Black Ice. Brendan O'Brien really nailed > the sound; sonically, it's got the clarity of Powerage mixed with a > hint of the live massivenes of For Those About To Rock, without the > cannonfire snare. The entire mix is right up in your face. The tandem > guitar tone is killer. Phil's snare sounds like it could kill from > fifty paces. The kick drum felt like it was hitting you in the chest. > The bass sits perfectly in the mix, and you can hear every note that > Cliff plays. And Brian sounds great. Everything is crystal clear.
> I got to hear eight of the fifteen songs: "Rock N Roll Train", "Skies > On Fire", "Anything Goes", "War Machine", "She Likes Rock N Roll" and > "Money Made", and clips of two others.
> Of the eight, four stood out to me, though they were all really good > songs.
> Rock N Roll Train is every bit as good as everyone has said. Killer > riff and a great sing-along decending vocal line in the chorus. > There's no real solo to speak of, but what Angus plays during the > breakdown fits the song perfectly.
> Money Made is a slower blues track, but very powerful. Brian really > shines on it, and he's mixed right up front. The song made me think > that these guys could be the best blues band in the world if they > wanted to be.
> Anything Goes sounds as unique as anything that they've done. Chiming > guitars, and Brian sings a very melodic vocal line. I'd be surprised > if it wasn't released as a single at some point.
> War Machine was the heaviest track that I heard. It's kind of a mix > between Given The Dog A Bone and Hail Caesar.
> There was an earlier post about the Rolling Stone review about She > Likes Rock N Roll being an instant stripper classic, and they're > right. It's got a great groove.
> Skies On Fire is another muscular track with a killer riff and great > vocals from Brian.
> I was really curious to hear Decibel, with the reports of Angus on > slide guitar, but that wasn't one of the tracks that they had.
> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better > embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are > going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with > silver, and one with yellow. The back cover repeats the silhouette-in- > the-cog motif with Malcolm in the position that Angus is on the front. > Brian, Phil and Cliff are also represented on the back."
I've been saying it for the last, well, less years 'cause I'm not as ancient as Old Man Bads.
But seriously, it's DC. I mean, I even love FoTW live, let alone TNT (versus the Chimpmunks studio version). Unless they produce cock rock TRE material (which even had its good spots), this will be the best new album from anyone in a long bloody time. I just need to know the touring schedule so I can get things organized.
>I copypaste this from another forum (Risingpower.net):
> "We're in for a treat with Black Ice. Brendan O'Brien really nailed > the sound; sonically, it's got the clarity of Powerage mixed with a > hint of the live massivenes of For Those About To Rock, without the > cannonfire snare. The entire mix is right up in your face. The tandem > guitar tone is killer. Phil's snare sounds like it could kill from > fifty paces. The kick drum felt like it was hitting you in the chest. > The bass sits perfectly in the mix, and you can hear every note that > Cliff plays. And Brian sounds great. Everything is crystal clear.
> I got to hear eight of the fifteen songs: "Rock N Roll Train", "Skies > On Fire", "Anything Goes", "War Machine", "She Likes Rock N Roll" and > "Money Made", and clips of two others.
> Of the eight, four stood out to me, though they were all really good > songs.
> Rock N Roll Train is every bit as good as everyone has said. Killer > riff and a great sing-along decending vocal line in the chorus. > There's no real solo to speak of, but what Angus plays during the > breakdown fits the song perfectly.
> Money Made is a slower blues track, but very powerful. Brian really > shines on it, and he's mixed right up front. The song made me think > that these guys could be the best blues band in the world if they > wanted to be.
> Anything Goes sounds as unique as anything that they've done. Chiming > guitars, and Brian sings a very melodic vocal line. I'd be surprised > if it wasn't released as a single at some point.
> War Machine was the heaviest track that I heard. It's kind of a mix > between Given The Dog A Bone and Hail Caesar.
> There was an earlier post about the Rolling Stone review about She > Likes Rock N Roll being an instant stripper classic, and they're > right. It's got a great groove.
> Skies On Fire is another muscular track with a killer riff and great > vocals from Brian.
> I was really curious to hear Decibel, with the reports of Angus on > slide guitar, but that wasn't one of the tracks that they had.
> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better > embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are > going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with > silver, and one with yellow. The back cover repeats the silhouette-in- > the-cog motif with Malcolm in the position that Angus is on the front. > Brian, Phil and Cliff are also represented on the back."
Don't hold your breath - I remember the expectation surrounding FOTS following the polished/'over commercial' sound of FTATR - then after FOTS we were kicked in the nuts with FOTW. However, funny how time changes your attitude to albums - I like 'em all now but at the time I remember feeling gutted.
"Fistmaster" <alexanderscho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>I copypaste this from another forum (Risingpower.net):
> "We're in for a treat with Black Ice. Brendan O'Brien really nailed > the sound; sonically, it's got the clarity of Powerage mixed with a > hint of the live massivenes of For Those About To Rock, without the > cannonfire snare. The entire mix is right up in your face. The tandem > guitar tone is killer. Phil's snare sounds like it could kill from > fifty paces. The kick drum felt like it was hitting you in the chest. > The bass sits perfectly in the mix, and you can hear every note that > Cliff plays. And Brian sounds great. Everything is crystal clear.
> I got to hear eight of the fifteen songs: "Rock N Roll Train", "Skies > On Fire", "Anything Goes", "War Machine", "She Likes Rock N Roll" and > "Money Made", and clips of two others.
> Of the eight, four stood out to me, though they were all really good > songs.
> Rock N Roll Train is every bit as good as everyone has said. Killer > riff and a great sing-along decending vocal line in the chorus. > There's no real solo to speak of, but what Angus plays during the > breakdown fits the song perfectly.
> Money Made is a slower blues track, but very powerful. Brian really > shines on it, and he's mixed right up front. The song made me think > that these guys could be the best blues band in the world if they > wanted to be.
> Anything Goes sounds as unique as anything that they've done. Chiming > guitars, and Brian sings a very melodic vocal line. I'd be surprised > if it wasn't released as a single at some point.
> War Machine was the heaviest track that I heard. It's kind of a mix > between Given The Dog A Bone and Hail Caesar.
> There was an earlier post about the Rolling Stone review about She > Likes Rock N Roll being an instant stripper classic, and they're > right. It's got a great groove.
> Skies On Fire is another muscular track with a killer riff and great > vocals from Brian.
> I was really curious to hear Decibel, with the reports of Angus on > slide guitar, but that wasn't one of the tracks that they had.
> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better > embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are > going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with > silver, and one with yellow. The back cover repeats the silhouette-in- > the-cog motif with Malcolm in the position that Angus is on the front. > Brian, Phil and Cliff are also represented on the back."
> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better > embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are > going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with > silver, and one with yellow.
That's fucking lame, I hate stupid packaging gimmicks. I know bands are always looking for ways to get people to buy the same album over and over again (i.e. five remasters of Back In Black, but shit, at least with a remaster it's a nominally different product), but alternate cover art? That is extremely un-AC/DC. Way more objectionable than the Wal-Mart thing, that's for damn sure.
But all the fanboy geeks will dutifully buy the album three times instead of once, so mission accomplished I guess.
>> I also got a look at the packaging. The graphic looks even better >> embossed on the digipack sleeve. And as I understand it, there are >> going to be three different versions: one with the red logo, one with >> silver, and one with yellow.
> That's fucking lame, I hate stupid packaging gimmicks. I know bands are always > looking for ways to get people to buy the same album over and over again (i.e. > five remasters of Back In Black, but shit, at least with a remaster it's a > nominally different product), but alternate cover art? That is extremely > un-AC/DC. Way more objectionable than the Wal-Mart thing, that's for damn > sure.
> But all the fanboy geeks will dutifully buy the album three times instead of > once, so mission accomplished I guess.
As long as the contents are the same, I won't get bothered by this.
I actually believe that the evidence clearly shows that the odds of 'DC putting out an album better than anything else in a bloody long time is pretty damn good. What other good new albums have you heard? I'm not talking best rock album, but geezus, there ain't much competition out there! Motley Crue is the only band that comes to mind that released something that I've tolerated recently (haven't heard Alice Coop, but I heard it's too metal). And I'm pretty damn sure AC/DC can be a Motley Crue album.
And with AC/DC, more than any bad other than maybe the Ramones, you have a pretty good idea of what you're going to get before the album is released. Like I said in another post, they don't sell out on their music (TRE being the exception to partly prove the rule). So fawning, no. Using past behavior to predict future behavior with a good degree of accuracy and being happy about said prediction? Yes. Fifteen AC/DC songs = 99.999999% chance I'm gonna really like at least one of them!
>> Unless they produce cock rock TRE >> material (which even had its good spots), this will be the best new album >> from anyone in a long bloody time.
> Do you actually believe it when you say things like this, or do you just > have an uncontrollable genetic predisposition toward fanboy hyperbole?
> I guess I just don't understand why someone would feel the need to fawn > over an album they've never heard.
Goddam ancient newsgroup technology doesn't let you edit posted messages. Goddam lack of spellchecker too. And goddam beer for being so seductively delicious. No, I take that back. Beer's just right.
>I actually believe that the evidence clearly shows that the odds of 'DC >putting out an album better than anything else in a bloody long time is >pretty damn good. What other good new albums have you heard? I'm not >talking best rock album, but geezus, there ain't much competition out >there! Motley Crue is the only band that comes to mind that released >something that I've tolerated recently (haven't heard Alice Coop, but I >heard it's too metal). And I'm pretty damn sure AC/DC can be a Motley Crue >album.
> And with AC/DC, more than any bad other than maybe the Ramones, you have a > pretty good idea of what you're going to get before the album is released. > Like I said in another post, they don't sell out on their music (TRE being > the exception to partly prove the rule). So fawning, no. Using past > behavior to predict future behavior with a good degree of accuracy and > being happy about said prediction? Yes. Fifteen AC/DC songs = 99.999999% > chance I'm gonna really like at least one of them!
>>> Unless they produce cock rock TRE >>> material (which even had its good spots), this will be the best new >>> album from anyone in a long bloody time.
>> Do you actually believe it when you say things like this, or do you just >> have an uncontrollable genetic predisposition toward fanboy hyperbole?
>> I guess I just don't understand why someone would feel the need to fawn >> over an album they've never heard.
>I actually believe that the evidence clearly shows that the odds of 'DC > putting out an album better than anything else in a bloody long time is > pretty damn good. What other good new albums have you heard?
Give me a timeframe and I'll give you a list. "Bloody long time" is too ambiguous, not to mention too English-sounding.
Last 5 years for crumpet's sake! I can't think of any smashing new records that have come our way guvnor. As I meant to say before, I'm not guaranteeing that this will be an instant rock classic alongside BIB, LTBR, etc. But it'll beat the living snot out of 99% of the crap I hear as "new music" on local rock stations (including Nights with Alice). Everything new sounds like Nicklegrundge. And with 15 'DC songs to choose from, one possibly with slide guitar (believe it when I hear it), this HAS to be better than another bleedin' wanker band whining about how their girl is mean to them and cheats on them with their mates at their flats in the lifts while eating crumpets.
>>I actually believe that the evidence clearly shows that the odds of 'DC >> putting out an album better than anything else in a bloody long time is >> pretty damn good. What other good new albums have you heard?
> Give me a timeframe and I'll give you a list. "Bloody long time" is too > ambiguous, not to mention too English-sounding.
Stereophonics - You Gotta Go There To Come Back (2003) Alice Cooper - The Eyes Of Alice Cooper (2003) Hubert Sumlin - About Them Shoes (2004) Izzy Stradlin - Like A Dog (2003) Alice Cooper - Dirty Diamonds (2005) Foo Fighters - In Your Honor (2005) Paul McCartney - Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (2005) Stereophonics - Language Sex Violence Other (2005) Bob Dylan - Modern Times (2006) JJ Cale & Eric Clapton - The Road To Escondido (2006) Jerry Lee Lewis - Last Man Standing (2006) Tom Petty - Highway Companion (2006) Izzy Stradlin - Miami (2007)
If Black Ice is better than each of the above albums (all of which I file under "very good" or "great"), it will be far and away the best work AC/DC has ever done. I give this a 0% chance of happening.
> From my own library, this is what I come up with:
> Stereophonics - You Gotta Go There To Come Back (2003) > Alice Cooper - The Eyes Of Alice Cooper (2003) > Hubert Sumlin - About Them Shoes (2004) > Izzy Stradlin - Like A Dog (2003) > Alice Cooper - Dirty Diamonds (2005) > Foo Fighters - In Your Honor (2005) > Paul McCartney - Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (2005) > Stereophonics - Language Sex Violence Other (2005) > Bob Dylan - Modern Times (2006) > JJ Cale & Eric Clapton - The Road To Escondido (2006) > Jerry Lee Lewis - Last Man Standing (2006) > Tom Petty - Highway Companion (2006) > Izzy Stradlin - Miami (2007)
> If Black Ice is better than each of the above albums (all of which I file > under "very good" or "great"), it will be far and away the best work AC/DC > has ever done. I give this a 0% chance of happening.
"Stereophonics - top band, first two albums were the dogs bollocks.
Fid "
Fiddy,
I've got to do a quick business trip to Chicago in mid-Sept and by chance the Stereophonics are playing a club in Chicago. It's about 1,100 capacity venue and the tickets were only $20! I've managed to get hold of 4 tickets so it should be a good one!
On Aug 21, 11:03 pm, "Fiddy64" <fiddama...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Stereophonics - top band, first two albums were the dogs bollocks.
> Fid
Uhhhh, is being dogballs a GOOD thing?
Wolfmother-Wolfmother Not sure when it was released. Good CD, great live act. I just saw they broke up....damn, was looking forward to a second release from these guys
> > From my own library, this is what I come up with:
> > Stereophonics - You Gotta Go There To Come Back (2003) > > Alice Cooper - The Eyes Of Alice Cooper (2003) > > Hubert Sumlin - About Them Shoes (2004) > > Izzy Stradlin - Like A Dog (2003) > > Alice Cooper - Dirty Diamonds (2005) > > Foo Fighters - In Your Honor (2005) > > Paul McCartney - Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (2005) > > Stereophonics - Language Sex Violence Other (2005) > > Bob Dylan - Modern Times (2006) > > JJ Cale & Eric Clapton - The Road To Escondido (2006) > > Jerry Lee Lewis - Last Man Standing (2006) > > Tom Petty - Highway Companion (2006) > > Izzy Stradlin - Miami (2007)
> > If Black Ice is better than each of the above albums (all of which I file > > under "very good" or "great"), it will be far and away the best work AC/DC > > has ever done. I give this a 0% chance of happening.- Hide quoted text -
Izzy is pretty good, but I haven't heard his 2007. Alice's albums were decent. Foo Fighters blow. Don't like the Stereophonics either. Paul and Dylan aren't my thing. Didn't hear about Jerry Lee, and Tom Petty's album was good, but not great. Hubert I don't know, and I haven't heard any of JJ/Clapton's work. So from where I'm standing, the odds are a LOT better than 0%. I guess we just like different kinds of music.
> Stereophonics - You Gotta Go There To Come Back (2003) > Alice Cooper - The Eyes Of Alice Cooper (2003) > Hubert Sumlin - About Them Shoes (2004) > Izzy Stradlin - Like A Dog (2003) > Alice Cooper - Dirty Diamonds (2005) > Foo Fighters - In Your Honor (2005) > Paul McCartney - Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (2005) > Stereophonics - Language Sex Violence Other (2005) > Bob Dylan - Modern Times (2006) > JJ Cale & Eric Clapton - The Road To Escondido (2006) > Jerry Lee Lewis - Last Man Standing (2006) > Tom Petty - Highway Companion (2006) > Izzy Stradlin - Miami (2007)
> If Black Ice is better than each of the above albums (all of which I file > under "very good" or "great"), it will be far and away the best work AC/DC > has ever done. I give this a 0% chance of happening.
> Izzy is pretty good, but I haven't heard his 2007. Alice's albums were > decent. Foo Fighters blow. Don't like the Stereophonics either. Paul > and Dylan aren't my thing. Didn't hear about Jerry Lee, and Tom Petty's > album was good, but not great. Hubert I don't know, and I haven't heard > any of JJ/Clapton's work.
Pretty haughty talk from the guy who listed a fucking Motley Crue album.
Just because you've only tolerated one album in the last five years doesn't mean people aren't putting out plenty of tolerable music. Or maybe the scope of your tastes is as regrettably limited as it appears to be.
OMFG, give it a rest, will ya? I don't like some of the bands you like. Boo-hoo. My "scope" covers jazz, blues, classical, punk, and rock. I don't think there has been any great albums put out recently, just some good ones, more OK ones, and lots more crappy ones. And shockingly enough, I have higher hopes for a new album from my favourite band than from any other band. It's, shockingly enough, part of why they're my favourite band. The final shock is that I think the recorded music scene is generally pretty lame these days.
Otherwise, if all you're objecting to is my predicting it will be good in advance, I've already made my case based on past data. If the album sucks, I'll be amongst the first to (very, very sadly) admit it. But it won't be a total loss in any case 'cause they'll tour and I'll get to hear a very familiar, but very kick-ass, bunch of songs.
>> Hey, I said it was a pretty lame 5 years! > Just because you've only tolerated one album in the last five years > doesn't mean people aren't putting out plenty of tolerable music. Or maybe > the scope of your tastes is as regrettably limited as it appears to be.