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Bluuzer®

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:42:46 AM10/24/08
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"Important" issue:

http://www.turnmeup.org/

badlands420

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:49:21 AM10/24/08
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"BluuzerŽ" <blu...@telia.com> wrote in message
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> "Important" issue:
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> http://www.turnmeup.org/


Good site. Thanks for the link.


The archivist

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Oct 24, 2008, 3:26:17 AM10/24/08
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This explains why so many new CD's sound so flat and compressed.
Wonder if vinyl releases of records with compressed and even clipped
sound any better than the CD versions?

AngusBoom

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Oct 24, 2008, 7:59:33 AM10/24/08
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I notice the same thing happens to my music if I hook my ipod to my
car stereo. The louder I put the volume the worse the song sounds, I
always end up keeping it 3/4 of the way up. I wonder if this is the
same thing?

agentalbert

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Oct 24, 2008, 10:02:40 AM10/24/08
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"The archivist" <soulstr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This explains why so many new CD's sound so flat and compressed.
> Wonder if vinyl releases of records with compressed and even clipped
> sound any better than the CD versions?


Sometimes. Its a case by case thing. The last Rush release "Snakes & Arrows" was
much better on vinyl than the CD.


agentalbert

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Oct 24, 2008, 10:03:39 AM10/24/08
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It is. Well mastered music is crank-able. You want to turn it up, and the more
you do (to a point) the better it sounds.


Mike Espinoza

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Oct 24, 2008, 11:21:23 AM10/24/08
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If some of the reports of the vinyl versions of Metallica's Death
Magnetic are accurate, they sound worse.
--
Mike E.

badlands420

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Oct 24, 2008, 11:25:04 AM10/24/08
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>If some of the reports of the vinyl versions of Metallica's Death
Magnetic are accurate, they sound worse.

It matters a lot less with that type of music, which has inherently less
dynamic range to begin with. With the old Metallica albums, even if you're
listening on top-quality equipment, it's not like you can tell they've got a
bass player or differentiate between the guitars.


Mike Espinoza

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Oct 24, 2008, 11:35:01 AM10/24/08
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I would agree with that. There was one blog that I read where the guy
had heard the songs streaming on the website and liked them. He
bought the LP and when he listened to it, the production gave him a
headache.

Amazon's reviews of the LP versions have the same issue. That the LPs
are as bad as, if not worse, than the CDs due to digital compression.

That being said, there are very few Metallica albums that were
produced well to begin with. The Black Album may be the only one that
was well produced.

BTW, has anyone bought the remastered AC/DC LPs? Do they sound good
or do they suffer from some of the same "digital loudness" issues that
the CDs do?
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Mike E.

Shuffle

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:06:59 PM10/24/08
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Amy Winehouse Back To Black is totally destroyed on CD but really nice on
vinyl...

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TV

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Oct 24, 2008, 8:55:15 PM10/24/08
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If it's a universal practice, it's pretty sucky. And pretty stupid. I
mean, just turn the nob up if you want more volume. Someone must've seen
Spinal Tap too many times! (we gotta make 'ese CDs go up to eleven, right?)

TV

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agentalbert

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Oct 24, 2008, 10:03:14 PM10/24/08
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That's what I hear, too. It's a case by case basis.


The archivist

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Oct 26, 2008, 4:18:26 AM10/26/08
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>
> BTW, has anyone bought the remastered AC/DC LPs?  Do they sound good
> or do they suffer from some of the same "digital loudness" issues that
> the CDs do?
> --
I'll keep relying to my original vinyls. At least they sound good to
start with.

The archivist

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Oct 26, 2008, 4:20:26 AM10/26/08
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My local shop hadn't got the vinyls of BI when I bought the album so I
had to take a CD copy. But has anyone compared the sound on BI vinyls
vs. CD are both mastered and mixed the same way?

Mike Espinoza

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Oct 26, 2008, 11:23:15 AM10/26/08
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:18:26 -0700 (PDT), The archivist
<soulstr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>>
>> BTW, has anyone bought the remastered AC/DC LPs? =A0Do they sound good


>> or do they suffer from some of the same "digital loudness" issues that
>> the CDs do?
>> --
>I'll keep relying to my original vinyls. At least they sound good to
>start with.

I haven't found that to be universal, though. My copies of IYWBYGI,
BIB, and FTATR still sound great, but my old HTH LP sounds incredibly
thin. I got the newest HTH CD for free with Pepsi Points and even
though it is one of the victims of the Loudness War, it still sounds
better than my LP.
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Mike E.

The archivist

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Oct 27, 2008, 3:52:32 AM10/27/08
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>
> If some of the reports of the vinyl versions of Metallica's Death
> Magnetic are accurate, they sound worse.
> --
This guy made a comparsion and apparantly the vinyl is slightly better.
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