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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:29:16 -0600
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From: Scott Bradbury <tavis...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: This is the Result of YOUR Client Violating MY Rights to
Privacy
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To whom it may concern,
I sent a formal complaint yesterday regarding Sara Salzman posting my
private e-mail address and my telling her in public forum to stop. Now my e-mail
box that I wanted to remain private is now being e-mail bombed and thanks to
Sara Salzman!
What are you going to do with a person who with malicious intent exposed
my e-mail box to such assaults when she knew full well that my other e-mail box
was being abused. Sara purposely posted my private e-mail address knowing full
well that her accomplices would wage a "denial of service attack" against it!
I provide all the proofs you need below to show that I asked Sara to
stop and proof that now, because of her, my private e-mail box is being flooded!
Two examples of hundreds which are still coming in regarding my private e-mail
address being e-mail bombed solely because Sara Salzman does not respect my
right to privacy:
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Hello,
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| From: tavis...@ix.netcom.com
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| Subject: test
| Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:55:24 GMT
| Organization: irritate eventually if Albert's pitcher isn't young
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| test
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| hiya fatboy
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Hello,
this message is never sent unsolicited. Don't panic.
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posted a test message to the following Newsgroups:
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| hiya fatboy
| .
Here is Sara Salzman not honoring my request about the confidentiality of my
e-mail address:
Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!
cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!
Cidera!portc03.blue.aol.com!dc1.nntp.concentric.net!
sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.revisionism,can.general,soc.culture.canada,misc.legal,alt.lawyers
Subject: Scott Continues to Harass
Date: 16 Jan 2002 20:32:38 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Lines: 71
Message-ID: <catamont-7575E8...@news.concentric.net>
References: <catamont-373803...@news.concentric.net>
<30h64ugapcjd1sgk3...@duff.ca>
<catamont-D11AD9...@news.concentric.net>
<u2u64uovgooab6u4i...@4ax.com>
<catamont-FFAACC...@news.concentric.net>
<1si94ugla2tnetb09...@4ax.com>
<catamont-844B26...@news.concentric.net>
<6a7a4uk36ob73utid...@4ax.com>
<catamont-DB6608...@news.concentric.net>
<6amb4ugcrbkdge2sn...@4ax.com>
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Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:1252306 can.general:292985
soc.culture.canada:379725 misc.legal:414993 alt.lawyers:23184
In article <6amb4ugcrbkdge2sn...@4ax.com>,
tavis...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2002 13:10:19 GMT,
> <catamont-DB6608...@news.concentric.net> Sara
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <6a7a4uk36ob73utid...@4ax.com>,
> >tavis...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> >> On 16 Jan 2002 03:15:58 GMT,
> >> <catamont-844B26...@news.concentric.net> Sara
> >> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <1si94ugla2tnetb09...@4ax.com>,
> >> >tavis...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Former subject title: "Poor Scotty STILL doesn't understand the
> >> >> difference"
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes I do understand the difference. A liar like you can tell all
> >> >> the lies you wish in USENET but when you carry your lies into a civil
> >> >> court it is a criminal act known as perjury which is an offense which
> >> >> warrants jail time!
> >> >>
> >> >> On 15 Jan 2002 04:35:03 GMT,
> >> >> <catamont-FFAACC...@news.concentric.net> Sara
> >> >> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <u2u64uovgooab6u4i...@4ax.com> wrote
> >> >> >tavis...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >> >> Your posting an e-mail address I have never made public via posting
> >> >> shows your intent to have it spammed. You show that you are a
> >> >> vindictive person who is a miserable slob poor loser.
<Scott Bradbury comment: Notice that Sara Salzman keeps inserting my
tavis...@ix.netcom.com in the message header on her own. My programs do not do
such! Sara is the person doing it!!>
> >> >Not at all. It simply shows that everyone is waery of your hysterical
> >> >spew, and that you cannot hide the truth.
:
> >> Posting my never used in public forum e-mail address is indeed an
> >> attempt to have it spammed. As for your statement "your hysterical spew"- I
> >> merely show YOUR words which contradict each other which you keep deleting so
> >> who is trying to hide the truth? As for your statement: "you cannot hide the
> >> truth"- how have I tried to hide the truth? I keep showing it and you keep
> >> deleting it and posting a private e-mail address which is not meant for usenet.
Then I guess you shouldn't have used it in trying to harass people, yes?
<end>
The statement she made: "Then I guess you shouldn't have used it in trying to
harass people, yes?" was in regard to my filing a complaint to B'nai Brith in
Canada for their funding a person who publicly libels me and I wrote them to
advise them that they could be civilly liable for the libel against me by their
fundee as I complained here in a reply to the above lie:
>Then I guess you shouldn't have used it in trying to harass people, yes?
Complaining to an organization which funds a person who libels me in public is
NOT harassment! I resent you making a legitimate complaint into an issue of
harassment. I wrote B'nai Brith about their funding a person who posts such in
public forum:
I.E.
(Ken McVay's one example of (many) public libel and smear funded through B'nai
Brith):
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=9pidrd%24272q%2...@news.tht.net&num=20&hl=en
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: Will Ken Lewis Name Just One Recipient to the Nizkor Endowment Fund
Other Than Ken McVay?
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9pidrd$272q$1...@news.tht.net>
Exact quote: "He won't - no balls, no bet. (Besides, he's, er, "impoverished,"
you know... your basic welfare bum.)"
<<Doc Tavish comment January 8, 2002: I am not on welfare and I am not a bum. I
resent such lies and libel which McVay is famous for doing on a daily basis.>>
<end>
If I had a web site funded by a Christian Church and I was posting such as:
"Besides, she's, er, "impoverished," you know... your basic welfare bum."
wouldn't you complain?
Do you wish to persist that an honest complaint is harassment?
Your purposely posting my other e-mail address is harassment especially when I
have repeatedly told you that by doing such you violate my rights to privacy
<END>
If you don't believe B'nai Brith has a network of people who harass people then
you all should ask yourselves why Sara Salzman who lives in Aurora, Colorado
would be getting my undisclosed private e-mail address from B'nai Brith in
Canada and now why it is being flooded with hundreds of forged test messages as
I gave examples to above! This proves a malicious criminal conspiracy designed
solely to harass me and intimidate me and to deny me service! I strongly suggest
that Sara Salzman's account with concentric be terminated immediately.
Attention ab...@mindspring.com,
I will be closing my tavis...@ix.netcom.com e-mail box immediately. It
will be as much use now as my former tavi...@ix.netcom.com after these filthy
beasts wage their criminal attacks against it repeatedly. You all know how many
times my e-mail box has been shut down by these unsavory characters.
Thank you,
Scott Bradbury
<END>
Need I say more other than the Nizkook crowd is a group of sore losers!
BTW everyone reading this-- take note that B'nai Brith Canada funds a person who
makes apologia for child porn as my sig line details!
Doc Tavish
--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a person who
would say in general regarding child porn: "I am weary of seeing the
issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and
around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd
consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, ... and
fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
alone with your children?
>ALL DUE TO SARA SALZMAN NOT RESPECTING MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!
>
Now **that** is funny...
>ALL DUE TO SARA SALZMAN NOT RESPECTING MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!
Way to GO, genius! Confirm what no one else would have cared about, until
you started crapping it all over two newsgroups.
(Incidentally, why should anyone believe you this time? You're not exactly
credible.)
--PLH, he's a certified crackpot, though
So funny that it's hard to type because i can't breath now!!
--
__
Steve Poirier
<tarp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>ALL DUE TO SARA SALZMAN NOT RESPECTING MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!
I truely doubt your account will close within 24 hours, Bradshit. Most
ISP's will not close an account that quickly - they usually let the
spam sow down first.
Thank you for referring to Sara as the "spam sow" but you should have used caps
so it would have read "Spam Sow."
Once again you know nothing of which you speak. That e-mail is an extra free
e-mail box which I created and can take away at MY will.
I said nothing about closing my account-- it was you. You lack reading
comprehension. I can close that e-mail box now BUT I am waiting for a reply from
Sara's ISP. After I am satisfied that either they will answer or not-- that
e-mail box will be history!
Try to get a clue will you rodent!?
Doc Tavish
--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)
> Now **that** is funny...
Why?
--
............................................................................
"We feel that Goldstein took a preventative measure against yet another
Arab attack."
-The Jewish Defense League's position on Baruch Goldstein,
who opened fire on unarmed Muslims as they prayed in a Hebron
mosque, killing 30 worshippers and wounding over 150 more.
............................................................................
www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/1022 dan...@swan.com
>In can.general tarp...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:12:26 -0600, ^.^
>> <t-a-vi...@i-x.n-e-t-com.c-omRemove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail> wrote:
>
>>>ALL DUE TO SARA SALZMAN NOT RESPECTING MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!
>>>
>
>> Now **that** is funny...
:
>Why?
Because they love to criminally harass people who mercilessly make them look
stupid on almost a daily basis. They can't refute what I post so they resort to
criminal harassment in vain hopes of intimidating me into silence. I am the type
person who fights back even harder when my foes fight dirty like they do!
Doc Tavish
--Alleged Chickenhawk, Ken McVay, Condoning Child Porn--
"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html
Verified by John Morris with Message ID:
cf214uoohhmoqblmv...@4ax.com
(For the record this child porn apologist is funded by B'nai Brith
as shown here: http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
B'nai Brith must condone pictures of "naked children" too!)
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG-- does he
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 05:29:46 GMT, <3c476139....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
> kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:58:01 -0600, _
>><-t-a--v-...@i--x.n-e-tc-o-m.c-om Remove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail>
>>wrote:
>>>ALL DUE TO SARA SALZMAN NOT RESPECTING MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!
>>I truely doubt your account will close within 24 hours, Bradshit. Most
>>ISP's will not close an account that quickly - they usually let the
>>spam sow down first.
> Thank you for referring to Sara as the "spam sow" but you should have used caps
> so it would have read "Spam Sow."
Thank *you*, Scottie, for once again showing that you read what you want to
see, reality be damned. Thanks also for showing that you're obsessed with
getting at Sara any way you can -- but then, I wouldn't expect someone who's
downright proud of being a grade-school dropout to be able to consider that
_maybe_ Ken was thinking "they usually let the spam slow down first". Is it
any wonder you're the running joke of your little village?
> Once again you know nothing of which you speak. That e-mail is an extra free
> e-mail box which I created and can take away at MY will.
Well, then, if you weren't so stupid you have to be watered daily, you
wouldn't have had this problem, no?
> I said nothing about closing my account-- it was you. You lack reading
> comprehension. I can close that e-mail box now BUT I am waiting for a reply from
> Sara's ISP. After I am satisfied that either they will answer or not-- that
> e-mail box will be history!
So why make a big show of it, then? It's gone in either case, and you have
one fewer means of harassing people for no other reason than that they dared
to dispute your delusions.
> Try to get a clue will you rodent!?
Quit acting like someone whose goal in life is to be a permanent resident of
the state loony bin in Rusk, will you, Tubby?
--PLH, some of us aspire to greater heights, while Bradbury revels in the sewage
This comming from herr Zundel's girlfriend?! Now it is really getting funny.
Jeff
Kurt Knoll.
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"Jeff" <jte...@spamfree.cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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I believe the bible is the greatest work of fiction ever assembled.
Jeff
Kurt Knoll.
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"Jeff" <jte...@spamfree.cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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Jeff
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