A simple question for Ken McVay..
Blakely
PB
Doc Tavish
"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
>
>PB
>
Ken Lewis
The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
From kmc...@nizkor.org Thu Jun 1 21:09:22 EDT 2000
Article: 747674 of alt.revisionism
Path: hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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"Blakely" wrote in message
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> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge. They have, however,
invested the donation as they were directed and legally bound to do.
The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
maintanence or development.
You can verify their existence by visiting
http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal, OBE,
who are collectively responsible for the fund and the machines.
You can write to them in care of the San Antonio Area Foundation,
http://www.saafdn.org/
> Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not
> having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
to it.
--
The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource
David Irving vrs. Deborah Lipstadt & Penguin Books Ltd: Judgment
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit
--
The anymous coward posting as 'Joe Bruno' is a habitual liar.
Doc Tavish
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
>>"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
:
>>He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
:
>The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
>Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/ftp.py?people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
Why should I believe McVay when it has already been established he's a liar with
his own words yet!?
I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?
Just confess, you got the money.
1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them) - modern-day neo-Nazis and extremists who use their own web
sites to deny.....
http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
e=20&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=nizkor&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sor
t&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params
_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_
date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_usewei
ghts=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=47&%5B+Search+%5D.y=17
<<The above was posted by Pat Blakely with these headers:
From: "Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Organization: Blakely
Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>>>
>The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my
>knowledge.
I add this to your shame:
<start>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> [...]
>
Everyone remember the key statement made above and place special emphasis on the
part in which Nizkor's Ken McVay stated: "The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has
ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund""
Compare what Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed above to what follows!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
Ergo, I have made no such "admission."
[...]
> the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
The ADL has absolutely nothing to do with my funding. Canadian
funding is collected and dispersed by the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada, which is not part of the ADL, although it is
associated with that organization (and a good many others) as a
partner. The League is strictly Canadian, and its Director does not
work for, or report to, the ADL, which is an American group.
(Sorry...)
The B'nai Brith Foundation, which receives funds donated to The
Nizkor Project by Canadians, and which issues tax receipts, neither
funds my work...
[...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my
>challenge stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
>organization in the United States, produce it.
>
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>
>1,999,936 to go.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
>
><<YAWN>>
>
><end>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canaidan
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like McVay has lied about his San Antonio money launderer!
<stop>
> They have, however, invested the donation as they were directed and
>legally bound to do.
>
>The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
>Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
>maintanence or development.
Then why does your funding arm B'nai Brith link NIZKOR with the San Antonio
operation at one of their web sites as I prove here:
BTW this is just downloaded from GEEKTOOLS and it show McVay to be a bold face
liar when he claims: "While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading
Pool) to produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
in San Antonio, Texas.."
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
whois search on MAZAL.ORG result:
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 9-Aug-2001 13:22:00 EDT.
<end>
Looks like McVay is caught lying. Why doesn't he want us to know he has an
American funding agency? Is he trying to dodge the IRS? His own Canadian funding
arm, the B'nai Brith even shows at their web site Ken McVay has a San
Antonio branch with working links too!
My proof:
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/publications/jclinks/jincan-01.htm
(Link Active August 9, 2001)
B'NAI BRITH CANADA
LINKS If you would like to add your organization or community service to this
listing, or if you have suggestions for other links, please email the webmaster
at b...@bnaibrith.ca.
Jewish Indices | Selected Israel sites | Media Sites | Hate on the Internet |
Palestinian and Islamic Sites | Anti-Hate Groups | Canadian Government
Anti-Hate Groups:
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
Canadian Race Relations Foundation / Fondation canadienne des relations raciales
Fighting Hate - HTML
HateWatch Inc.
Simon Wiesenthal Center
Anti-Racist Action
Human Rights Internet (HRI)
International Centre of Human Rights and Democratic Development
Nizkor Home Page Toronto
http://www.nizkor.org/
Nizkor Home Page British Columbia
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
Nizkor - Toronto (T1)
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/
Nizkor - Toronto (128K)
http://www1.ca.nizkor.org/
Nizkor - San Antonio (128K)
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/
(Link active August 9, 2001)
Holocaust Cybrary- Now at Nizkor!
Nizkor Search Engine - San Antonio
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/search.html
<end>
Those US Nizkor Links work! Why does Ken McVay insist he has no U.S. operation?
Why does he deny having a San Antonio, Texas operation when his money changer,
B'nai Brith, shows so!?
WHY DOES KEN MCVAY LIE?
BTW B'nai Brith is Ken McVay's funding arm as shown here:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
-----------------------
>You can verify their existence by visiting
>http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
>
>I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
>you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
>Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal, OBE,
>who are collectively responsible for the fund and the machines.
>
>You can write to them in care of the San Antonio Area Foundation,
>http://www.saafdn.org/
>
>> Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not
>> having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
>
>I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
>to it.
>
>--
>The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource
> David Irving vrs. Deborah Lipstadt & Penguin Books Ltd: Judgment
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit
I believe McVay about as much as I trust a serpent! Why are you vermin such
lying scoundrels?
Ken Lewis
wrote:
>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
Asked and answered, Mr. Blakely. Including the direct answer Ken McVay made to
you last year.
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge. They have, however,
invested the donation as they were directed and legally bound to do.
The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
maintanence or development.
You can verify their existence by visiting
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:34:32 GMT, <3b7b7f83...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
>><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
>>>"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
>:
>>>He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
>:
>>The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
>>Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
>>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/ftp.py?people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>
>Why should I believe McVay when it has already been established he's a liar with
>his own words yet!?
The only established liar here is you Bradshit.
[snip]
Doc Tavish
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:49:28 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:34:32 GMT, <3b7b7f83...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
>>><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
>>>>"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
:
>>>>He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
:
>>>The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
>>>Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
>>>
>>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/ftp.py?people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
:
>>Why should I believe McVay when it has already been established he's a liar with
>>his own words yet!?
:
>The only established liar here is you Bradshit.
Name calling won't make the truth go away!
>>>From kmc...@nizkor.org Thu Jun 1 21:09:22 EDT 2000
>>>Article: 747674 of alt.revisionism
>>>Path: hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
>>>From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
>>>Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
>>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>>Lines: 41
>>>Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>References: <282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>
>>>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>>>X-Trace: news.tht.net 959907864 95537 216.126.72.2 (2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT)
>>>X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
>>>X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999)
>>>Xref: hub.org alt.revisionism:747674
>>>
>>>"Blakely" wrote in message
>>>news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
>>>> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
>>>> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
>>>> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
>>>> the money?
:
>>>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
>>>Area Foundation.
To which I add:
Ken McVay said precisely: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort
whatsoever within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay
has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
(on January 4, 2001)
YET his very own earlier postings prove the above was a lie!
On June 5, 1997 Ken McVay posted: "American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation..." which
contradicts what he posted on January 4, 2001: "Neither The Nizkor Project nor
Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund"
NOW WHERE I AM FROM THAT IS CALLED LYING!!
Also in contradiction to what McVay posted on January 4, 2001 which in part said
(once again): "Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." McVay posted on
May 22, 2001 in reply to Mike Stein's words: " [Mike Stein wrote: ...In the
United States, it is channeled through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area
Foundation, which is a San Antonio umbrella organization something like the
United Way.] {Ken McVay now replies}: Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor
Project... In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization...."
All material quoted above came from these links:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
>[snip]
Snipping won't make the truth go away! The truth just keeps coming back to bear
witness to the cold hard fact that you are a liar Ken Lewis!
Doc Tavish
<<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
>The computers are in use to this day, confronting and refuting
>Holocaust denial, but I have nothing to do with their operation,
>maintanence or development.
>
>You can verify their existence by visiting
>http://www.holocaust-history.org and http://thhp.org.
>
>I have no association with either organization, and never have. Should
>you have further questions, I suggest that you contact Robert
>Washington, Patrick Groff, Mark S. Freedman or Harry W. Mazal, OBE,
>who are collectively responsible for the fund and the machines.
>
>You can write to them in care of the San Antonio Area Foundation,
>http://www.saafdn.org/
>
>> Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not
>> having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?
>
>I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
>to it.
>
>--
>The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource
> David Irving vrs. Deborah Lipstadt & Penguin Books Ltd: Judgment
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit
Strange McVay denies having any connection to the San Antonio Area Foundation
and that he claims as you (Ken Lewis) showed above: "The San Antonio Area
Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no
connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it." YET here is
what the San Antonio Area Foundation showed as recipients in the year 2000
report:
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
This is the text version of the PDF file http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
G o o g l e automatically generates text versions of PDF documents as we crawl
the web.
Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its
content. These search terms have been highlighted: nizkor endowment fund
address telephone
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Antonio Area Foundation
Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
[...]
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~
Ouch! I bet you feel like you have just been whacked up side your head now!
How does it feel being a sycophant to a proven liar and con man?
Now make personal attack as usual and avoid the cold hard truths!
BTW folks I have to add as a reminder that Ken McVay did claim as shown by his
defender Ken Lewis: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me..." YET
Ken McVay has posted such words as:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<<The above is more denial which flies in the face of what McVay posted at other
times as shown just below.>>
<end>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
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From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canaidan
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like McVay has lied repeatedly about his San Antonio money launderer!
Have a good day now!
Doc Tavish
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
[snip remainder of this cowards post]
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[TubbyBlubber excised]
> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
go directly into an endownment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
will fuel itself.
SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
creation of an endownment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
fund.
It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
always, he doesn't give a rat's ass for the truth.
Duh.
--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
Ken Lewis
McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
>
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
>
>Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
My intent was to say that there was that he knew there was no endowment fund
which you benifited from.
What are you doing home on a Friday night? Why ain't you out painting the town
red?
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth
>McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>
>>[TubbyBlubber excised]
>>
>>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
>>
>>Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
>
>My intent was to say that there was that he knew there was no endowment fund
>which you benifited from.
I knew that - just wanted to confuse TubbyBlabbler even more. That
void between his ears can't deal with more than a few brief syllables
at one time.
>What are you doing home on a Friday night? Why ain't you out painting the town
>red?
There is a law here which forbids painting anything red, unless the
Elders sell me the paint, and they were all busy.
--
"Denial of Science & The Science of Denial"
The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial
Blakely
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
> <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
> >"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
> >
> >He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
>
>
> The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
Just answer yes or no. Do you want a check box to help you?
Does Ken McVay have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
PB
Jeffrey G. Brown
patbl...@hotmail.com (Blakely) wrote:
> Does Ken McVay have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at
> this time?
And what possible business is it of yours, lying coward?
JGB
================================================================== =====
Jeffrey G. Brown jg_b...@my-deja.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
Sara Salzman
> In article <3b75d58c...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
> Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org
> >(Kenneth
> >McVay, OBC) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
> >>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>[TubbyBlubber excised]
> >>
> >>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
> >>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
> >>
> >>Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
> >
> >My intent was to say that there was that he knew there was no endowment
> >fund
> >which you benifited from.
>
> I knew that - just wanted to confuse TubbyBlabbler even more. That
> void between his ears can't deal with more than a few brief syllables
> at one time.
>
> >What are you doing home on a Friday night? Why ain't you out painting
> >the town
> >red?
>
> There is a law here which forbids painting anything red, unless the
> Elders sell me the paint, and they were all busy.
You can, however, paint everything blue and white with Our blessings. :)
Sara
Sara Salzman
Here's a simple question:
When are you going to provide a shred of proof of any one of your lies:
You lied when you said my children are "retarded."
You lied when you said I had a history of mental problems.
You lied when you said my daughter had an "ugly haircut."
You lied when you said my father is a "Freudian."
You lied when youn said his book was "out of date."
You lied when you made up a quote from Jeffrey Brown about Nizkor.
You lied when you said I have forged anyone's e-mail.
You lied when you said you had seen my daughter's birthday party
pictures.
You lied when you said I harassed Don Ellis and his family.
Just answer yes or no. Do you want a check box to help you?
Sara
Doc Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
and stand.
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
MY PROOF:
<START>
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
Now once again I ask these questions and I (as well as everyone else
reading this) deserve some straight answers not unless of course, you
all have something to hide!
Now for the questions addressed to Ken McVay:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
For a fact neither the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND nor the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
are known by the Better Business Bureau of British Columbia (where you Nizkor
has it's P.O. Box mail drop)!
http://204.228.135.156/van/search.html
BBB Serving Mainland B.C. Database Search
TIP: Normally you would only enter a part of the company's name and search
on that. If you put information in other fields, then the search will only
bring up companies that match ALL of the search criteria. You should
usually leave most of the fields blank.
Company Name:
I entered NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
I entered NIZKOR TRUST FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
My proof that Ken McVay's Nizkor is a P.O. Mail Box drop without a street
address:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Registrant:
The Nizkor Project
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
Domain: NIZKOR.ORG
Administrative Contact:
McVay, Kenneth KMC...@VERITAS.NIZKOR.ORG
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
More questions:
7) Care to explain why two major FUNDS aren't acknowledged by the
BBB in your area?
>Incorrect. The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
>for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
>go directly into an endownment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
>will fuel itself.
>
>SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
>creation of an endownment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
>
>
>That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
>Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
>fund.
Once again you are caught lying through your teeth Ken McVay! The San Antonio
Area Foundation lists the "Nizkor Fund" as a recipient on their Year 2000 Report
and YOU, yourself, have previously posted that the San Antonio Area Foundation
provided Nizkor with American donations. Care to remain in denial and deny the
following documented proofs?
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Text version:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:A4EjSpXxe8Q:www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+NIZKOR+ENDOWMENT+FUND+ADDRESS+TELEPHONE&hl=en
This is the text version of the PDF file http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
G o o g l e automatically generates text versions of PDF documents as we crawl
the web.
Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its
content. These search terms have been highlighted: nizkor endowment fund
address telephone
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Antonio Area Foundation
Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000
San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow
[...]
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
[...]
S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g
~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~
Oooops! Looks like you're really caught in some very bad lies now Ken!
Do you now wish to reverse your position about being connected with the San
Antonio Foundation?
Remember this?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=9334lf%241nlt%241%40news.tht.net
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> [...]
Everyone remember the key statement made above and place special emphasis on the
part in which Nizkor's Ken McVay stated: "The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has
ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund""
Compare what Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed above to what follows!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
Ergo, I have made no such "admission."
[...]
> the ADL directs funding to Nizkor.
The ADL has absolutely nothing to do with my funding. Canadian
funding is collected and dispersed by the League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada, which is not part of the ADL, although it is
associated with that organization (and a good many others) as a
partner. The League is strictly Canadian, and its Director does not
work for, or report to, the ADL, which is an American group.
(Sorry...)
The B'nai Brith Foundation, which receives funds donated to The
Nizkor Project by Canadians, and which issues tax receipts, neither
funds my work...
[...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my
>challenge stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
>organization in the United States, produce it.
>
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>
><end>
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From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like McVay has lied about his San Antonio money launderer!
How is the money funneled from San Antonio to your pockets Ken?
BTW the recent readout for <mazal.org> aka San Antonio Foundation shows:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
Record last updated on 15-Mar-2001.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 10-Aug-2001 05:28:00 EDT.
<end>
>It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
>and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
>SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
>always, he doesn't give a rat's ass for the truth.
I tried contacting Harry Mazal twice and he never replied BUT the evidence
above more than adequately condemns you!
>Duh.
Yeah- personal attack and belittlement is ALL you have and I am glad that you
act in the manner you do so all who read this will wise up to the fact that a
web site is "sponsored" with "exempt donations" acts in the manner that you do.
In America people who are exposed and proven to be flim-flam men are dealt with
by the masses. Just look what has happened to televangelists who were caught
abusing exempt donations and/or proven to be disingenuous liars and knaves.
Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker paid dearly for their abuses and one of the
officers of the United Way paid dearly for abusing exempt donations. Try to come
to America and run NIZKOR like you do in the liberal bastion of Canada and see
how long you last! Perhaps this is why you left America in the first place- we
demand accountability of ALL organizations/entities which receive exempt
donations!
Once again:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
You would be compelled to answer the questions above if your NIZKOR was an
American based web site which received "exempt donations." Care to name any
other web site either in Canada or America which receives funding as you do or
has an ENDOWMENT or TRUST fund and operates from a backroom of their own
residence?
Yes people it is true. Nizkor is nothing more than a web site operated from a
backroom of Ken McVay's very own personal residence! Here's my proof and will he
deny it?
http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html
(Link active for verification August 10, 2001)
"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by
ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from
the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a
middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its
location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a
50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs
from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
There is not one American ENDOWMENT or TRUST fund which is above not having to
name its directors, officers, address, assets etc.
Let your pal Yale F. Edeiken make all the threats he wishes against me for
exposing your scam but the GOOGLE archives will be added to with posts such as
this and as time goes by more and more people will see NIZKOR for what it is!
BTW Ken did you pay taxes on that $50,000.00 you received from the San Antonio
Area Foundation as shown in this article?
From: "Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?
Just confess, you got the money.
1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them)...
http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
e=20&s_search_type=keyword&p_text_base=nizkor&p_field_psudo-sort-0=psudo-sor
t&p_sort=_rank_%3AD&p_field_Source-0=Source&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params
_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&p_text_date-0=&p_field_YMD_date-0=YMD_date&p_field_YMD_
date-0=YMD_date&p_params_YMD_date-0=date%3AB%2CE&xcal_ranksort=4&xcal_usewei
ghts=yes&%5B+Search+%5D.x=47&%5B+Search+%5D.y=17
<end>
The CCRA may be interested in collecting some back taxes and penalties!
You can count on them being advised of this situation.
Sincerely yours,
Scott Bradbury aka Doc Tavish
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
Doc Tavish
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b75d58c...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[...]
>>What are you doing home on a Friday night? Why ain't you out painting the town
>>red?
>There is a law here which forbids painting anything red, unless the
>Elders sell me the paint, and they were all busy.
The Elders of Zion who launder your exempt funding?
Ken Lewis
How can it be exempt, Bradshit? It has been explained to you endlessly that Ken
has to pay taxes on it. What is exempt about that? We know you are dead from the
neck up but do try to keep up.
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
>
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>
>>[TubbyBlubber excised]
>
>Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
>post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
>personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
>don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
>and stand.
>
>>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
>
>Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
>both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
>follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
Ken McVay doesn't reply to you at all. I snip your bullshit because even when
you have been answered you keep ignoring the answer and post the same crap over
and over again.
My guess is, Bradshit, that you are in so many killfiles nobody reads your stuff
anymore but as a public service I like to keep putting it in your face that this
has all been asked and answered.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[BlubberBlather excised]
>Ken McVay doesn't reply to you at all. I snip your bullshit because even when
>you have been answered you keep ignoring the answer and post the same crap over
>and over again.
I don't even see his posts - my trn killfile deletes them out of hand.
The entertainment, however, derives from the 2nd-hand-smoke... in the
case of the Nizkor funds, I was particularly amused to note that you
responded to a question regarding San Antonio Area Fund endowment
funding, as did I, and BlatherTubby tried the old "smoke and mirrors"
routine by changing the subject to Nizkor's Canadian funding.
The phrase "can't see the forest for the trees" comes to mind when
dealing with the fractional neuron known as BlubberTubby/Blakely.
1812 Overture in the park tonight... cannons and all... should be a
great eveing!
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <13739392.01081...@posting.google.com>,
>patbl...@hotmail.com (Blakely) wrote:
[...]
>> Does Ken McVay have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at
>> this time?
>Here's a simple question:
>
>When are you going to provide a shred of proof of any one of your lies:
Mr. Blakey will not do that, because Mr. Blakely is a liar of the
first order.
As to _his_ question, I would remind Mr. Blakely that it was answered,
in full, in Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>, on June 2, 2000
- over 14 months ago.
Mr. Blakely's myopia seems to make it difficult for him to locate
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation,
although the rest of the world seems to be able to find it quite
easily.
Of course, it could simply be that Mr. Blakely is an asshole with no
interest in conceding that his question was answered 14 months ago.
Works for me.
~
~~
Joe Bruno
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:49:28 -0500, Doc Tavish
> <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:34:32 GMT, <3b7b7f83...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
> >kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:20:23 -0500, Doc Tavish
> >><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:11:48 -0400, <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
> >>>"Blakely" <patbl...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Do you have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation at this time?
>
> >>>He will either dodge you or make personal attack! Just watch.
> >:
> >>The answer has been provided for you in this newsgroup several times yesterday,
> >>Pat. As well, Ken provided you the answer directly last year.
> >>
> >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/ftp.py?people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
> >
> >Why should I believe McVay when it has already been established he's a liar with
> >his own words yet!?
>
> The only established liar here is you Bradshit.
> >
Some people call me a liar. Am I "established"?
Joe Bruno
Doc Tavish
Subject: Re: All NIZKOR.ORG Can Do Is Name Call Rather Than Answering Very
Honest Questions aka Re: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:23:26 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b797786...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <e3qantcqehd0skgdn...@4ax.com>
:
Your form of answering is not refutation of the facts. Your form of answering is
avoidance- you delete all of my documented proofs and then you make personal
attack.
>My guess is, Bradshit, that you are in so many killfiles nobody reads your stuff
>anymore but as a public service I like to keep putting it in your face that this
>has all been asked and answered.
Liars can't handle the reality when they are exposed- this is a common trait
among pathological liars who remain in denial to their facing the truth. I
notice once again that you delete factual fully documented material which I gave
the URLs to so all may be verified. Remember Ken- the public is watching and
these posts will be seen in the future by those perusing the archives.
One more short jab at you and your folly. Notice Ken Lewis did not refute what I
had just posted and the key part concerning him was:
From: Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
Subject: All NIZKOR.ORG Can Do Is Name Call Rather Than Answering Very Honest
Questions aka Re: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:03:16 -0500
Organization: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Message-ID: <e3qantcqehd0skgdn...@4ax.com>
References: <9kvqek$7t7$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
<3b7b7f83...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
<8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
<3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca> <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
and stand.
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
MY PROOF:
<START>
<STOP>
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
BTW Ken why won't the Flim-Flam Man McVay answer these appropriate questions
about those FUNDS?
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
Your diversion and McVay's tucking tail and running seems to indicate McVay has
something to hide!
Have a good day now!
Doc Tavish
What does this mean to you?
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
See the term "EXEMPT"? That is a NIZKOR link you know!
My but you're stupid and in denial.
Allan Matthews
joeb...@indystart.com says...
> Some people call me a liar.
That's because you are, Mr. I'm-Not-Mountainman-Oh-Wait-Yes-I-Am.
> Am I "established"?
You don't have the Bradshit's nearly decade long record on usenet, but,
yes, you are an established and well-documented liar.
allan
--
allan_matthews[at]bigfoot[dot]com
=========================================
"I may be irrational"
- the BrunoBot
=========================================
http://www2.shore.net/~matthews/
Ken Lewis
Yes, pardon me. I misspoke.
You are indeed an established liar.
But, once again, Joe, I am forced to ask the question. I thought you said I
didn't exist. What's the matter? No one want to talk to you?
--
The anonymous coward posting as 'Joe Bruno' is a habitual liar.
Ken Lewis
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:17:11 GMT, <3b787660...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:05:20 -0500, Doc Tavish
>><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:42:02 +0000 (UTC), <9l3g7q$2dnb$1...@news.tht.net>
>>>kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <3b75d58c...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>>>>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>>>What are you doing home on a Friday night? Why ain't you out painting the town
>>>>>red?
>:
>>>>There is a law here which forbids painting anything red, unless the
>>>>Elders sell me the paint, and they were all busy.
>:
>>>The Elders of Zion who launder your exempt funding?
>:
>>How can it be exempt, Bradshit? It has been explained to you endlessly that Ken
>>has to pay taxes on it. What is exempt about that? We know you are dead from the
>>neck up but do try to keep up.
>
>What does this mean to you?
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
>Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>
>See the term "EXEMPT"? That is a NIZKOR link you know!
>
>My but you're stupid and in denial.
My you are indeed stupid Bradshit. The donation is tax deductible to those to
make it. It is not tax deductible to Nizkor (Ken McVay) who must pay the income
tax on it that the donor got an exemption for.
How much clear can we make it for you.
Go drain the water from between your ears and read it again.
Ken Lewis
McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b797786...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>[BlubberBlather excised]
[...]
>1812 Overture in the park tonight... cannons and all... should be a
>great eveing!
BFD! You can't hold a candle to our park this evening. We have broken glass
walking, beer bottle throws, boom boxes, DIP's (Drunken Indian Person's), sword
swallowing (unintentional), kick boxing, passion plays, and RCMP parades.
Your culture ain't got nuthin on Northern culture. You ought to remember that.
You grew up in the arm pit of Canada not 150 miles from here.
str...@hotmail.com
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
>post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
>personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
>don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
>and stand.
Talk about calling the kettle black....I've had to wade my way thru
can.general for years bypassing your SPAM bud. Look in the mirror if
you wan to see someone famous for name calling and personal attack!
Doc Tavish
Did I make such claim as you impute to me? NO I did not!
>How much clear can we make it for you.
Is your multiple personality disorder acting up again? I see that you refer to
yourself as "we."
>Go drain the water from between your ears and read it again.
You should heed your own advice!
Joe Bruno
> In article <4bc3e2e1.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> joeb...@indystart.com says...
> > Some people call me a liar.
>
> That's because you are, Mr. I'm-Not-Mountainman-Oh-Wait-Yes-I-Am.
>
> > Am I "established"?
>
> You don't have the Bradshit's nearly decade long record on usenet, but,
> yes, you are an established and well-documented liar.
>
> allan
Am I supposed to take your words at face value? I just can't anymore.
Joe Bruno
Doc Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
I changed the news groups toi which my intelligent
and truthful reply is made to.
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
<STOP>
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
My but Ken Lewis is in very deep denial isn't he?
He even denies what the Nizkor web site says about them
having an endowment and trust funds!
How much credibility do my opponents have?
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
>Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
>
>BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
>I changed the news groups toi which my intelligent
>and truthful reply is made to.
I've been trolling you off into alt.usenet.kooks for days now, Bradshit.
>
>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
>Organization: Electric Zen
>Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
>
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
>><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>Excess headers deleted.
>
>>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
>:
>>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Just as true now as when I first wrote it.
Doc Tavish
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:42:49 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>
>>From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>Subject: Re: A simple question for Ken McVay..
>>Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
:
>>BTW Ken it is you who is the kook, not me!
>>I changed the news groups toi which my intelligent
>>and truthful reply is made to.
:
>I've been trolling you off into alt.usenet.kooks for days now, Bradshit.
It is only you who is making a great impression on others about what a KOOK you
are. When someone continually denies the obvious they have to be a kook. I show
you to be a kook again just below!
>>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT
>>Organization: Electric Zen
>>Message-ID: <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>References: <8bd9ntcopgajcivg5...@4ax.com>
>>
>>On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
>>><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>Excess headers deleted.
>>
>>>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>>>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>>>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>>>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
:
>Just as true now as when I first wrote it.
How is that? You're the one who has been consistently cornered on lying!
Remember what you deleted already?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 04:54:19 GMT, <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0500, Doc Tavish
><doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Excess headers deleted.
>><<Doc Tavish question August 10, 2001: Was the donation invested in either the
>>NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND? snicker snicker>>
:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada.
[...]
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
I bet that feels just like getting slapped upside your hard head
with a black jack doesn't it Ken Lewis?
See how much of a kook you are Ken?
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
Still jusr as true as when I first wrote it. Your xontinual lies won't make any
difference, Fatman.
Doc Tavish
Now I see that I have reduced you to slobbering all over yourself!
You just can't stand it and I show you to be a chronic liar!
Eat your heart out! Here is another slap across your head with a symbolic black
jack:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
>
>[snip remainder of this cowards post]
You just can't stand to be proven wrong and you delete the proof that it is you
who "has never let the truth stand in the way of (your) lies and vicious
personal attacks on others."
NIZKOR'S very own web site link refutes your false claim you made: "there is no
endowment fund nor a trust fund" as you brazenly declared above.
Here, once again, to your shame and humiliation:
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada.
[...]
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no endowment fund nor a
>trust fund. Scott Bradbury, a notorious bigot, has never let the truth stand in
>the way of his lies and vicious personal attacks on others.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
Watch Ken Lewis come back for another whack across his hard noggin. Who said
these people weren't hard heads? :-)
Doc Tavish
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
[snip]
Ooops. Now there isn't anything left to reply to.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
[Braindead twit excised]
>Ooops. Now there isn't anything left to reply to.
Hey, you must have been reading TubbyBlubber... that's his trademark,
old son.
The concert was 1st rate - the cannons were, well, cannons, and a good
time was had by all.
--
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465021522/thenizkorproject:
Lying About Hitler, by Dr. Richard Evans
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393020444/thenizkorproject
The Holocaust on Trial, by D.D. Guttenplan
Doc Tavish
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:46:28 +0000 (UTC)Message-ID: <9l557k$2mq7$1...@news.tht.net>
References: .... <uu1cntsmimosb16qi...@4ax.com>
Attention Canadian Revenue Payers: YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING ONE MAN WHO CARRIES ON IN
THIS MANNER!! See how "exempt donations" are being put to use? See his original
subject title? This is how Ken McVay, sole operator of NIZKOR.ORG acts when he
is asked honest questions about his organization. Notice how he is caught red
handed lying numerous times! Click my links I provide and verify all that I
claim. I have nothing to hide BUT it is obvious that McVay is doing a tap dance!
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:46:28 +0000 (UTC), <9l557k$2mq7$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b7615e3...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[Braindead twit excised]
Can't refute what is factual so you make personal attack instead. I'm sorry but
the CCRA won't accept personal attacks as answers when they start inquiring
about Nizkor's funding, Nizkor's endowment, and Nizkor's trust funds, and how
Nizkor uses monies obtained from such "enterprises" to attack private citizens
and keep files on them. How many other web sites operated from a person's
personal residence get a free ride like NIZKOR does? Care to name one web site
which solicits exempt donations and carries on as NIZKOR does?
>>Ooops. Now there isn't anything left to reply to.
:
>Hey, you must have been reading TubbyBlubber... that's his trademark,
>old son.
Name calling and belittling little insults won't let you escape the wall of
bricks about to fall on you con man.
>The concert was 1st rate - the cannons were, well, cannons, and a good
>time was had by all.
You'll really be in a real jovial mood once the CCRA sets its cross-hairs on
your NIZKOR ENDOWMENT and TRUST FUNDS. Remember the CCRA was aggressive toward
the Jews engaging in a money laundering scheme much like you the one you and
B'nai Brith have devised as described in this article:
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
(Link active August 11, 2001 for verification.)
HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to their
wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
Huge tax scam exposed
Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
Hundreds of people and businesses in Montreal's Jewish community are to face
criminal charges or be required to pay tens of millions of dollars in evaded
taxes as a result of a guilty plea yesterday in a Saint-Jerome court. The guilty
plea by a religious group connected to the Hasidic community in suburban
Boisbriand capped a two-year investigation of what federal tax auditors say is
the largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious organization in Quebec.
The religious group, which is known as Construit Toujours Avec Bonte and has
links to the Montreal Rabbinical College, pleaded guilty to issuing tax receipts
for charitable donations that overstated the amount of the donation.
A senior Montreal construction executive blew the whistle on the scam when he
approached Revenue Canada, now part of the Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency,
with taped information in 1997. The resulting investigation saw federal tax
sleuths seize about $60 million in phony receipts from individuals and
businesses in the Jewish community, court documents say.
Joseph Gutstadt, president of Magil Construction International, the
whistle-blower who exposed the fraud, said in a telephone interview last night
from Israel: "I'm happy that, at the end of the day, justice has prevailed."
But Gutstadt said he was disappointed that Construit Toujours was fined only
$400,000, and that none of the administrators of the organization or the
rabbinical college were charged.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
In pursuit of donors linked to tax evasion Hundreds in Jewish community under
scrutiny by federal officials. Federal tax investigators insisted yesterday that
they will continue an investigation involving hundreds of people and businesses
in the Jewish community suspected of participating in a charitable-donation tax
fraud. The case involves about $60 million in claimed donations, federal tax
officials said, making it Quebec's largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious
organization.
On Wednesday, a religious group connected to the Hasidic community of Tash, in
suburban Boisbriand, pleaded guilty to issuing charitable-donation tax receipts
which overstated the amounts actually given.
Yesterday, the community, through a public-relations firm, asserted that
government officials had agreed not to go after donors who participated in the
scam. The same statement said the community's Montreal Rabbinical College would
retain the right to issue charitable-donation receipts that can be used to
reduce donors' tax liabilities.
(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
<end>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The above account reminds me of the funding of NIZKOR through B'nai Brith.
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC), <9l2g72$23od$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <3b80b9d6...@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Ken Lewis <kle...@netbbistro.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyBlubber excised]
Name call and personal attack is all you losers have! You can't refute what I
post based on facts alone so you delete my documented proofs and then lay on
personal attack. Have you any idea of how you look to all people reading this? I
don't mind you two making fools of yourselves because it buttresses my viewpoint
and stand.
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Is that so? Why does NIZKOR have these links at their web site which mentions
both? Care to answer based on the facts and reality or will you delete what
follows and then make personal attack again like the loser you are?
MY PROOF:
<START>
<FAIR USE INTENDED -- NON-PROFIT>
http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
<STOP>
As a review Ken Lewis mockingly claimed:
>> As the sniveling, cowardly Bradshit well knows, there is no
>> endowment fund nor a trust fund.
Whereas NIZKOR'S very own link showed above:
"...add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the
Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque
or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund.."
Now once again I ask these questions and I (as well as everyone else
reading this) deserve some straight answers not unless of course, you
all have something to hide!
Now for the questions addressed to Ken McVay:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
For a fact neither the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND nor the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
are known by the Better Business Bureau of British Columbia (where your Nizkor
has it's P.O. Box mail drop)!
http://204.228.135.156/van/search.html
BBB Serving Mainland B.C. Database Search
TIP: Normally you would only enter a part of the company's name and search
on that. If you put information in other fields, then the search will only
bring up companies that match ALL of the search criteria. You should
usually leave most of the fields blank.
Company Name:
I entered NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
I entered NIZKOR TRUST FUND and this is what I got:
http://204.228.135.156/van/results.html
No entries fit these critieria.
My proof that Ken McVay's Nizkor is a P.O. Mail Box drop without a street
address:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
NIZKOR.ORG
Registrant:
The Nizkor Project
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
Domain: NIZKOR.ORG
Administrative Contact:
McVay, Kenneth KMC...@VERITAS.NIZKOR.ORG
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, BC V9R5K9 CA
More questions:
7) Care to explain why two major FUNDS aren't acknowledged by the
BBB in your area?
Back to Ken doing a pitiful spin job for NIZKOR:
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
[...]
[...]
Remember this?
Also Ken McVay has claimed through Ken Lewis:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=3b7f8413.62221344%40news.abccom.bc.ca
From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>
"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.
~~End of Nizkor Archival Excerpt~~
Compare what Nizkor's Ken McVay claimed in the above two extracts to what
follows!!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=5n6ib9%24f3h%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Ken McVay continues to taunt (and is proven to be a liar again):
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my
>challenge stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of
>organization in the United States, produce it.
>
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=17&selm=5m1sqg%24rse%241%40eclipse.txdirect.net
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
<end>
>Duh.
Once again:
1) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
2) Who are the directors of the NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
a) What is the address of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and
NIZKOR TRUST FUND so that books may be examined about expenditures?
b) What groups or organizations have been the beneficiaries of
the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND?
3) What are the assets of the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND and the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
4) Are either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST fund
tax-exempt? (We know that you claim your Nizkor web site is neither a
registered charity nor a non-profit organization.)
5) Is either the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the NIZKOR TRUST FUND
on file with the CCRA?
6) Do you personally receive any monies or other assets or financial
perks (house, automobile, etc.) from the NIZKOR ENDOWMENT FUND or the
NIZKOR TRUST FUND?
You would be compelled to answer the questions above if your NIZKOR was an
BTW I confirmed the article above at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Using their inner link of: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
and using that search engine with the keywords: NIZKOR $50,000
(using conditions Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date: all documents
I got:
"1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...."
<<The article which Pat Blakely posted is 100% real and authentic! The CCRA just
may be interested in investigating if you owe back taxes and penalties for that
$50,000.00 you received and you continually denying that receiving any money or
funds from the San Antonio Area Foundation as I have shown you have doing above
in this very post! You are a liar McVay! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!>>
<end>
The CCRA may be interested in collecting some back taxes and penalties!
You can count on them being advised of this situation.
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=fbc8ntovvn169g536oh8ok2gsqqj8g15tb%404ax.com
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: THE NIZKOR PROJECT=THE NIZKOR FOUNDATION=KEN MCVAY aka Money Laundering
by B'nai Brith Canada? (Posts by Waldo)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism, bc.general, can.general, can.taxes
Date: 2001-08-10 13:55:48 PST
BTW your pal Paul Kneisel is now trying to say I am spamming because I have the
audacity to prove that you are a liar!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=16&selm=gcN1O30%3DkaSKF8u%2Bj2IOFp50hu2j%404ax.com
From: Paul Kneisel (tall...@nyct.net)
Subject: [usenet] ECP/EMP BI=22: An Eighth Political Spam
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
(This is the only article in this thread)
Date: 2001-08-11 16:47:54 PST
EMP/ECP BI=22
From: "Sniper In Clocktower" <sniperinc...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.revisionism,bc.general,tor.general,mtl.general,can.general,can.taxes
References: <pk89nt80883s56an0...@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: MUST READ!! QUESTIONS KEN MCVAY WON'T ANSWER REGARDING THE
NIZKOR FOUNDATION
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you want to summerize this, we don't have time to read that much
Doc Tavish <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote in message
news:pk89nt80883s56an0...@4ax.com...
> THE FACTS:
> Nizkor is a web site solely run by Ken McVay from a back room of his own
> residence as documented here:
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Looks like all sorts of vermin want to get me off your case McVay but the word
is already being spread and the firestorm being brewed will by no means go away!
You hade better be able to prove to CCRA that you paid taxes on that $50,000.00
as well as all the rest of the money SAAF funneled to you. I'd imagine they will
give a full disclosure of what they sent you in the year 2000 too!
Are you still in a joking mood now McVay?
Doc Tavish
Ken Lewis
<doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM> wrote:
[snip]
Orac
joeb...@indystart.com (Joe Bruno) wrote:
> Allan Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<MPG.15df57a5...@news.ne.mediaone.net>...
> > In article <4bc3e2e1.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > joeb...@indystart.com says...
> > > Am I "established"?
> >
> > You don't have the Bradshit's nearly decade long record on usenet, but,
> > yes, you are an established and well-documented liar.
> >
> > allan
>
>
> Am I supposed to take your words at face value? I just can't anymore.
You are, of course, perfectly free to examine Bradbury's record on
Usenet for yourself.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
Yale F. Edeiken
Kenneth McVay, OBC <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote in message
news:9l3ubk$2g05$1...@news.tht.net...
> In article <catamont-BC4CAF...@news.concentric.net>,
> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >In article <13739392.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> >patbl...@hotmail.com (Blakely) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> Does Ken McVay have any ties whatsoever to the San Antonio Foundation
at
> >> this time?
>
> >Here's a simple question:
> >
> >When are you going to provide a shred of proof of any one of your lies:
>
> Mr. Blakey will not do that, because Mr. Blakely is a liar of the
> first order.
And not a very good one.
> As to _his_ question, I would remind Mr. Blakely that it was answered,
> in full, in Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9h$1...@news.tht.net>, on June 2, 2000
> - over 14 months ago.
>
> Mr. Blakely's myopia seems to make it difficult for him to locate
>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Found
ation_donation,
> although the rest of the world seems to be able to find it quite
> easily.
>
> Of course, it could simply be that Mr. Blakely is an asshole with no
> interest in conceding that his question was answered 14 months ago.
>
> Works for me.
Perceptive of you.
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
Joe Bruno
> In article <4bc3e2e1.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> joeb...@indystart.com (Joe Bruno) wrote:
>
> > Allan Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:<MPG.15df57a5...@news.ne.mediaone.net>...
> > > In article <4bc3e2e1.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > > joeb...@indystart.com says...
>
> > > > Am I "established"?
> > >
> > > You don't have the Bradshit's nearly decade long record on usenet, but,
> > > yes, you are an established and well-documented liar.
> > >
> > > allan
> >
> >
> > Am I supposed to take your words at face value? I just can't anymore.
>
> You are, of course, perfectly free to examine Bradbury's record on
> Usenet for yourself.
I was referring to the bit about me being an "established liar" when
I said that. Allan is doing his usual taunting game, but I'm wise to
it.
Joe Bruno
kmsp...@sympatico.ca
wrote:
>Orac <Or...@wabcmail.com> wrote in message news:<Orac-9DEE13.1...@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
You are an established liar, just not one of as long standing as
Bradbury.