Wendy Edeiken and shaklee = bankrupt
Patrick Humphrey
>http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/ = all gone
>
>Looks like another dishonest business got exposed
Looks like Don "Dummy" Ellis hasn't learned anything from his last spanking.
-PLH, but that's not news any more
National Front
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Looks like PLH doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. But PLH
already knew this, right?
NF. PLH's ignorance is not news any more.
--
"Holocaustalism is a religion, a filthy, gutter religion, used to justify and
rationalize the annihilation of Israel's enemies."
--Jim Floyd, August 31, 2001
Sonnyboy Tavish
<pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> writes:
>
>>http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/ = all gone
>>
>>Looks like another dishonest business got exposed
Those complaints to the various fraud watch groups are most likely what did the
Edeiken Clan in.
Here is the Edeiken Fan Club trying to do damage control:
~~~<START>~~~
On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:04:29 GMT, Doc Tavish
<NOSPAMdo...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:09:24 -0000, "david_michael"
><david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
>>Mr McVay, he who advocates arguing against revisionism rather than
>>oppressing it (but who then employs a campaign of smears and intimidation
>>against revisionists), has now killfiled pretty much all the revisionists in
>>alt.revisionism and has joined the campaign to wreck alt.revisionism by
>>posting large numbers of inane messages thereby drowning out those who wish
>>to discuss revisionism.
>>
>>Such are the tactics of the anti-revisionists.
>>
>>David
:.
>Even stranger I posted the correct link to begin with and I have proven it
>yet they continue the same campaign. Now that is pathetic. I think one of
>them changed my original link from my original, as documented at DejaCom,
>in the thread with the sole purpose of creating this current diversion.
>
>Here is evidence my original CORRECT link was changed in the thread and
>making the appearance I posted the wrong link as witnessed: "Our thanks to
>Agent Salzman for her brilliant manipulation of Subject Tubbiness." I left
>all of McVay's assinine attempts to belittle me intact below. Strange he
>used the term "manipulation" because that is exactly what happened to the
>link from my original post! Shows the depths these serpents will go to in
>order to discredit me! The DejaCom Archive and URL below prove beyond any
>doubt that I posted the correct link! No IFS, ANDS, or BUTS!
>
> The facts are:
>1) I originally posted the correct link.
>2) My report to the FTC had in it the correct link.
>3) My report to the local BBB had the correct link.
>4) My report to the local consumer action group had the correct link. I
>don't know why these clowns are behaving in the manner they do!
>Here are my undeniable proofs:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=5kkc7tsrs1g5lpe9mnepsj5t7tilhbejg7%404ax.com&rnum=1
>From: Doc Tavish <NOSPAMdo...@my-deja.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Looks Like Yale "Tubby" Edeiken Isn't Making it as an Attorney!
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:44:23 GMT
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.174.7.66
>Message-ID: <5kkc7tsrs1g5lpe9m...@4ax.com>
>
>Just in to Tavish Dispatch:
>
>http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken
>
>Tubby, you gave out your phone number! Isn't this why you sued me because
>I allegedly did so? My Tubby but you are a very FUNNY person!
>
>Is that you wife in the picture Tubby?
>Lurkers see: <http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/aboutme>
>Can't be because it looks like she's wearing a cross and we know what you
>Jews do when you see crosses. Just like Count Dracula (a fellow blood
>sucker your kind is likened to) you should recoil in horror BUT then again
>you probably love those blond haired shiksas! Most Jews do prefer Aryan
>beauties over the pigs (like Sara)....
>
><END>
>
>My report to FTC:
>
>FTC's homepage is www.ftc.gov
>Their file a complaint online link is:
>https://rn.ftc.gov/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
>
>Here is what you will see as a response if you use the above
>online complaint:
>https://rn.ftc.gov/dod/wsolcq$solcq.actioninsert
>
>Success!
>Complaint Accepted. Thank you for your input.
>
>First Name: Scott
>Last Name: Bradbury
>Year Of Birth: (YYYY)
>E-Mail Address: xxx...@flash.net
>Subject of Your Complaint: Health
>Name of Company You Are Complaining About: Edeiken Associates
>Street Address: xxxxxxx
>City: xxxxxx
>State or Canadian Province: Pennsylvania
>Country: UNITED STATES
>Zip Code or Postal Code: ?
>Company Web Site: http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/aboutme
>Company E-Mail Address: ya...@enter.net
>Phone Number: xxxxxxxxxxx Ext.
>How Did the Company Initially Contact You?: Internet Web Site
>Explain Your Problem: http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/aboutme
>
>The link above makes some pretty tall claims concerning the products
>ability in dealing with MS and also I am certain the picture shown is NOT
>the person who made the web page and claims to have MS. I have read what
>MS has at their web site on alternative cures etc. and this appears to be
>offering desperate people in dire straits a "miracle cure." Everything
>I've read about MS shows it to be insidious and not reversible.
>
><Note I "X" out some of the info above to maintain privacy.>
>
>My report to an Allentown consumer watchdog group:
>
>X-Sender: xx...@pop.flash.net
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32)
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:12:52 -0600
>To: sbi...@quackwatch.com
>From: Scott Bradbury <xxx...@flash.net>
>Subject: Apparent Consumer Fraud in Allentown, Pennsylvania
>
>To whom it may concern,
> The following is a web page advertised a "miracle cure" as I will
>call it. I have strong suspicions Wendy Edeiken is not who she claims to
>be. This "company" is in Allentown, Pennsylvania and the address is:
>
>Yale F. Edeiken
><Address deleted for this post>
>
>If Wendy Edeiken is not afflicted with MS would not the following be
>definite consumer fraud and this is a web based business too!
>
>http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/aboutme
>Edeiken Associates
>Wendy & Yale Edeiken
>
>You can change your life because I did!
>
>Let me tell you how I got involved with Shaklee.
>
>In 1984 I was debilitated with multiple sclerosis. I had little hope for
>the future and when friends from college told me about Shaklee, I was
>desperate enough to listen even though my doctor said that it would be a
>waste of money.
>
>With the help of a pharmacist in Shaklee, I began a well-balanced program
>of Shaklee supplements, exercise, positive visualization and healthy
>eating.
>
>I was amazed at the change! I had energy and the desire to take control of
>my prognosis. Now, sixteen years later, I have a thriving Shaklee
>business, I am teaching four days a week, and I look forward to every new
>day! <BLAH BLAH -- Rest deleted for this post>
Notice the claim above and see what Shaklee says at the web page linked by
Edeiken: <http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/aboutshaklee>
Click the link and scroll down and see at the bottom: "These statements
have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is
not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease." Note: The
aforementioned statement is not made in reference to Edeiken's spectacular
claims. (Read the link and you all will see!)
Read what Shaklee says at their web site and you all will see they do not
come even close to making such claims!
http://www.shaklee.com/shakleebasics/
They even have a PDF file for download:
http://www.shaklee.com/pdfs/basics_brief.pdf
No where at their site have I found any claims made for easing MS
symptoms! See <http://www.shaklee.com/products/briefs/basics/studies.html>
I even looked at other member pages and not one I looked at made the same
bold claims. Mainly all is mentioned is how great of a vitamin supplement
it is! Here is how to find members in your area:
http://www.shaklee.net/public/advSearch
><END>
>
>The point being-- I had the correct link from day one and what the clowns
>are trying to pull off below looks like another diversion. Also regardless
>of how my ignoramus adversaries act the reports were filed with the
>correct information and are in hands of people who investigate FRAUD!
>
>Also BTW I've talked to numerous arm chair lawyers and in their humble
>opinion (100% agreement) if that picture on Tubby's web page is NOT Wendy
>then that alone is consumer fraud because the text reads as a first person
>account and the picture is presented without identifying who she is SO
>most people would assume that is Wendy Edeiken. The Edeiken family is
>allegedly Observant Jews so why would Wendy be wearing a CROSS necklace?
>Here is the link to the purported picture of Wendy Edeiken:
>http://www.shaklee.net/pws/pictures/SA24013.jpg
>
>Somehow that link tells me that is just a public domain image!
:.
>OBC <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org> wrote in message
>>news:95o746$cqj$1...@news.tht.net...
>>> ZOGCANWEST to ZOGNA URGENT
>>> ZOG1 RE TAVISH
>>>
>>> MOST SECRET
>>>
>>> Contingency plans to change SHAKLEE.COM to SHAKLEE.NET dependent upon
>>> search engine access by Subject "TUBBY" entirely successful.
>>>
>>> With the support of NETWORKSOLUTIONS.COM, ZOGCANWEST successfully
>>> changed SHAKLEE.COM to SHAKLEE.NET fourteen times in the past 9 days,
>>> and changed SHAKLEE.NET to SHAKLEE.COM thirteen times during the same
>>> period.
>>>
>>> As predicted, The Moronic One was completely bamboozeled, and, as
>>> predicted, made a complete ass of himself.
>>>
>>> ZOGCANWEST wishes to thank ZOGCOLCENTRAL Salzman and
>>> ZOGSOUTHAFRIKA for contributing to the successful humiliation of
>>> someone almost too stupid to _be_ humiliated.
>>>
>>> ZOG1 extends congratulations on behalf of the Learned Elders on the
>>> successful completion of this specific Lard-Off, and invites ZOGNA
>>> agents to attend the entertaining ZOGPA Anti-Tubby Meeting, to be held
>>> in Pennsylvania on February Seventh in the appropriate Court.
>>>
>>> ZOG Target "Tubby", as usual, will not appear. Street talk has it that
>>> he has no gonads, but in the complete absence of female confirmation,
>>> this cannot be confirmed. Subject's deranged, high, squeaky voice
>>> should not be construed as evidence of the absence of presence.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, the Spielberg special, "ZOG vrs. Utter Stupidity" will
>>> be aired as planned, narated by Desmond Morristein.
>>>
>>> Our thanks to Agent Salzman for her brilliant manipulation of Subject
>>> Tubbiness.
>>>
>>> ZOGCANWEST
>>> MOST SECRET
>
><END>
:.
>For the archives here is Sara "Sow" Salzman responding to McVay's childish
>antics. Don't these people realize they only bring dishonor to themselves?
:.
><START>
>
>In article <95o746$cqj$1...@news.tht.net>, kmc...@nizkor.org wrote:
>
>> ZOGCANWEST to ZOGNA URGENT
>> ZOG1 RE TAVISH
>>
>> MOST SECRET
>>
>> Contingency plans to change SHAKLEE.COM to SHAKLEE.NET dependent upon
>> search engine access by Subject "TUBBY" entirely successful.
>>
>> With the support of NETWORKSOLUTIONS.COM, ZOGCANWEST successfully
>> changed SHAKLEE.COM to SHAKLEE.NET fourteen times in the past 9 days,
>> and changed SHAKLEE.NET to SHAKLEE.COM thirteen times during the same
>> period.
>>
>> As predicted, The Moronic One was completely bamboozeled, and, as
>> predicted, made a complete ass of himself.
>>
>> ZOGCANWEST wishes to thank ZOGCOLCENTRAL Salzman and
>> ZOGSOUTHAFRIKA for contributing to the successful humiliation of
>> someone almost too stupid to _be_ humiliated.
>>
>> ZOG1 extends congratulations on behalf of the Learned Elders on the
>> successful completion of this specific Lard-Off, and invites ZOGNA
>> agents to attend the entertaining ZOGPA Anti-Tubby Meeting, to be held
>> in Pennsylvania on February Seventh in the appropriate Court.
>>
>> ZOG Target "Tubby", as usual, will not appear. Street talk has it that
>> he has no gonads, but in the complete absence of female confirmation,
>> this cannot be confirmed. Subject's deranged, high, squeaky voice
>> should not be construed as evidence of the absence of presence.
>>
>> Nonetheless, the Spielberg special, "ZOG vrs. Utter Stupidity" will
>> be aired as planned, narated by Desmond Morristein.
>>
>> Our thanks to Agent Salzman for her brilliant manipulation of Subject
>> Tubbiness.
>>
>> ZOGCANWEST
>> MOST SECRET
:.
>We are always happy to serve ZOG. Unfortunately, this assignment was so
>simple, any baboon with a keyboard could have made the target look silly.
>
>ZOG Agent Sara
>
><END>
:.
>So is Sara admitting that she deliberately "manipulated" my original
>CORRECT URL all in order to have made me; "the target look silly."? How is
>falsifying what I originally posted making me look silly Sara? And to
>think you still are clueless as to why I call you a lying filthy pig whore
>bitch. Remember I can call you worse and that I have exercised much
>restraint! More evidence that you lie, bear false witness, and are
>perjurious!
~~~<STOP>~~~
>Looks like Don "Dummy" Ellis hasn't learned anything from his last spanking.
>
>-PLH, but that's not news any more
Re: Wendy Edeiken and shaklee = bankrupt. I wonder if it because of those fraud
complaints and Yale's threats to sue me for exposing the sham for what it was?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1uehntgltrimml80mvui1esupa63msqfbh%404ax.com&rnum=15
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Has No Shame or Honesty- Lying Through His Teeth is His
Way aka Re; How I am Threatened With a Lawsuit For Showing the Truth About a
SHAKLEE Distributor and Her Claims Concerning MS_ R 2
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:35:19 -0500
Message-ID: <1uehntgltrimml80m...@4ax.com>
Poor Tubby Edeiken:
1) His wife lost her Shaklee distributorship. (I wonder if it had to do with her
fraudulent claims?)
2) He lost his lawsuit against me.
3) He lost his appeal against me.
4) He lost his lawsuit against David E. Michael.
5) Two law firms disowned him.
6) My former attorney got elected State Representative despite Tubby's Fan Club
running a smear campaign against him.
7) He's so fat he waddles when he walks.
8) He's been Publicly Censured by the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of
the State of Pennsylvania
9) He's currently being investigated for criminal acts against me.
10) He's been sued for malpractice (and lost) more than once!!
11) There is more but I can't tell!!
You would think the Fat Bastard would learn by now that he's a loser in all
things of life.
Tavish
Special Note: Yale F. Edeiken Esq. of Allentown, Pennsylvania- Supreme Court
ID# 40290 has falsely asserted he was associated with the two law firms
mentioned below-- Todd Miller & Associates and Trainor Law Offices. Both law
firms told me first hand that Yale F. Edeiken was never an attorney at their
firms!! That is fact!
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=SH9g7.634%247d....@newshog.newsread.com&lr=&hl=en
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
Message-ID: <SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT
Defendant Bradshit <rdoc_...@my-deja.cpm, tavi...@ix.netcom,com> wrote
in message news:7lp1otkrsh37k7ioi...@4ax.com...
[...]
> Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller and Paul Trainor distanced
> themselves from you
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Compare what Yale said on August 20, 2001 concerning two law firms attitudes
toward his presence with his own words: "they were dealing with someone who was
"mentally unstable" (their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their
description) who they wanted to go away as quckly as possible" to this which was
posted July 4, 2000: "Tubby has no respect from the legal community and as a
whole they wish he'd just waddle away."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=20000704143439.5399.qmail%40nym.alias.net&rnum=4
From: SoloP...@nym.alias.net
Subject: Yale _Tubby_ Edeiken
Date: 2000/07/04
Message-ID: <200007041434...@nym.alias.net>
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Sara Salzman
Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
He said:
1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
3-4 years.
Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
moron?
I'll put my money on the DA.
Sara
--
My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Sara Salzman
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nob...@cypherpunks.to>
wrote:
> "Sara 'the fist' Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net...
> > In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> > Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> >
> > I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> > He said:
> >
> > 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> > 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> > 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> > 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
> >
> > According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> > 3-4 years.
> >
> > Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> > moron?
> >
> > I'll put my money on the DA.
> >
> > Sara
>
> I will take Bradbury's word over the word of a known child abuser. YOU WILL
> GET ANOTHER VISIT FROM CPS. Better clean the house.
>
Ah, threats from an Anonymous Coward. I'm shaking in my shoes.
NOT.
Sara Salzman
Frog <FrogRe...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:catamont-C5C2DC...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net...
> > In article <ebf8473e1bdd41d2...@cypherpunks.to>,
> > Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nob...@cypherpunks.to>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "Sara 'the fist' Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> > > news:catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net...
> > > > In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> > > > Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> > > > He said:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> > > > 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> > > > 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> > > > 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
> > > >
> > > > According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> > > > 3-4 years.
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> > > > moron?
> > > >
> > > > I'll put my money on the DA.
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > >
> > > I will take Bradbury's word over the word of a known child abuser. YOU
> > > WILL
> > > GET ANOTHER VISIT FROM CPS. Better clean the house.
> > >
> >
> > Ah, threats from an Anonymous Coward. I'm shaking in my shoes.
> >
> > NOT.
> >
>
> Care to deny that you have been visited by child protective services on two
> separate occasions?
Yes.
> Care to deny that you have been charged with child abuse?
>
>
Absolutely. You will find no record of any charges against me, Anonymous
Coward.
Care to admit who you are?
Sara
Nomen Nescio
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>
> I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> He said:
>
> 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
>
> According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> 3-4 years.
>
> Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> moron?
Well considering you are the psychotic moron, we believe the the DA really said. He told you basically to go take a hike and take it up in civil court.
How does it feel to drive over 400 miles round trip to get laughed at and told there is nothing they are going to do. Like I said, every time Psycho Sara does something, she gets totally defeated. First in Arkansas, now in Texas, both view her as a kook. They were real impressed with her sexual sadism and the fact that Rene is being abused by Chuckie Tucker who openly admitted such.
The DA wouldn't call you up to tell you that Bradbury is lying about your son.
Nice to see Sara in full Psycho mode. It makes for a great laugh.
Sara Salzman
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> In article <catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >
> > In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> > Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> >
> > I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> > He said:
> >
> > 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> > 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> > 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> > 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
> >
> > According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> > 3-4 years.
> >
> > Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> > moron?
>
> Well considering you are the psychotic moron, we believe the the DA really
> said. He told you basically to go take a hike and take it up in civil court.
NOPE... that's a lie. He said nothing of the sort.
>
> How does it feel to drive over 400 miles round trip to get laughed at and
> told there is nothing they are going to do.
Where did you get this mythical 400 miles? I didn't drive 400 miles.
And no one laughed at me, they only laughed at you and your cronies.
> Like I said, every time Psycho
> Sara does something, she gets totally defeated.
> Nope.
> First in Arkansas, now in
> Texas, both view her as a kook.
As a matter of fact, I believe the word "kook" was unsed, but bot in
reference to me. I believe it weas in reference to a resident of the
DA's town.
> They were real impressed with her sexual
> sadism and the fact that Rene is being abused by Chuckie Tucker who openly
> admitted such.
>
Can't get your broken record unstuck, can you? If you think there is a
case of abuse, why not file charges, Anonymous Moron?
> The DA wouldn't call you up to tell you that Bradbury is lying about your
> son.
Wouldn't? He sure did!
>
> Nice to see Sara in full Psycho mode. It makes for a great laugh.
>
Glad you're enjoying your little lies, but they don't change a thing.
Patrick Humphrey
>"Sara 'the fist' Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
>news:catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net...
>> In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
>> Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>> I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
>> He said:
>> 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
>> 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
>> 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
>> 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
>> According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
>> 3-4 years.
>> Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
>> moron?
>> I'll put my money on the DA.
>>
>> Sara
>I will take Bradbury's word over the word of a known child abuser. YOU WILL
>GET ANOTHER VISIT FROM CPS. Better clean the house.
You'll take anyone's word as long as you can use it to get attention,
"Jerome". You're the other Nazi Slut of alt.revisionism.
>Fact:
"Doctor" Jerome is a hopeless troll.
(Why are you crossposting your crap to houston.general? Sara doesn't
participate in that group, since she doesn't live in Houston, though she and
hers will always be welcome there, at least by some of us who live there.)
-PLH, who defends Bradbury? The certifiable kooks...
Patrick Humphrey
>On 11 Aug 2003 23:27:43 -0500, <szkisp3...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Humphrey
><pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> writes:
>>>http://www.shaklee.net/edeiken/ = all gone
>>>Looks like another dishonest business got exposed
>Those complaints to the various fraud watch groups are most likely what did
>the Edeiken Clan in.
>Here is the Edeiken Fan Club trying to do damage control:
[Bradcrap flushed]
Speaking of damage control, why are you lying about talking to the DA?
SPNAK!!!
-PLH, who'll make sure to drive through Dogpatch on the next visit to Austin
Sonnyboy Tavish
>In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>
>I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
>He said:
>
>1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
>2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
>3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
>4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
>
>According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
>3-4 years.
But you, yourself, confirmed I had contacted the DA's office in July 2003!
>Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
>moron?
>
>I'll put my money on the DA.
>
>Sara
Your pathetic attempt at damage control failed and you once again confirm to my
DA what a kook you are too! You drove all that way and didn't file one charge
and you showed all concerned why you are called "Psycho Sara."
Tavish
From: Sara "The Fist" Salzman
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?
Verdant:
I hate to muddle the semantics further, but... safe? You mean safe that my
Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to the point of death in a scene?
100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.
Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.
But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with. Perrrfect <END>
Sara "The Fist" Salzman on Safe Torture
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=s70dcvgs3eucqd31n81gqo5e21uj7vvg67%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary
Works and Opinions
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:35:49 -0500
Message-ID: <s70dcvgs3eucqd31n...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> On 12 Aug 2003 16:22:58 GMT,
> <catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> > Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
> >
> >I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> >He said:
> >
> >1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> >2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> >3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> >4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
> >
> >According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> >3-4 years.
>
> But you, yourself, confirmed I had contacted the DA's office in July 2003!
>
> >Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> >moron?
> >
> >I'll put my money on the DA.
> >
> >Sara
>
> Your pathetic attempt at damage control failed and you once again confirm to
> my
> DA what a kook you are too! You drove all that way and didn't file one charge
> and you showed all concerned why you are called "Psycho Sara."
>
> Tavish
Sorry. Your DA says you're lying. He was especially concerned about your
"banana for your monkey" comment, since it's not only a stupid joke, but
makes his office sound rather infantile. I assure you, DA Koehn is _not_
infantile, nor are his staff.
But they sure know what you are. And he had no qualms about telling me.
Sara
PS. Who ever said I was going to "file charges" against you? I went to
speak to your DA and your County Sheriff... and I did just that. And we
all had a very good laugh at YOUR expense.
Sonnyboy Tavish
<catamont-8C6715...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <njbjjvkl0f89k6is7...@4ax.com>,
> Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>
>> On 12 Aug 2003 16:22:58 GMT,
>> <catamont-F5E81C...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
>> > Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>> >
>> >I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
>> >He said:
>> >
>> >1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
>> >2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
>> >3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
>> >4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
>> >
>> >According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
>> >3-4 years.
:.
>> But you, yourself, confirmed I had contacted the DA's office in July 2003!
:.
>> >Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
>> >moron?
>> >
>> >I'll put my money on the DA.
>> >
>> >Sara
:.
>> Your pathetic attempt at damage control failed and you once again confirm to
>> my DA what a kook you are too! You drove all that way and didn't file one charge
>> and you showed all concerned why you are called "Psycho Sara."
>>
>> Tavish
:.
>Sorry. Your DA says you're lying. He was especially concerned about your
>"banana for your monkey" comment, since it's not only a stupid joke, but
>makes his office sound rather infantile.
I did not state anyone in the DA's office made the remark and once again you are
caught being a lying pig!
<START>
>THE MORBIDLY UGLY PSYCHO SARA DROVE 400 MILES ROUND TRIP WITH HER LEGALLY RETARDED
>TEENAGE SON JUST TO TRY TO STALK BRADBURY.
It is far more than 400 miles one way. I think it's more like 850 miles one way!
Sara wanted to convince everyone her son is "normal" BUT one official asked Sara
if her monkey wanted a banana and Sara became outraged and spewed and used foul
language saying her son was no monkey.
<STOP>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3im7jv0c3efh7pkjv9rr0s0uuhfhjrbcqq%404ax.com&output=gplain
Message-ID: <3im7jv0c3efh7pkjv...@4ax.com>
Where did I mention the DA OR his office? See what a crackpot you are?
>I assure you, DA Koehn is _not_ infantile, nor are his staff.
The DA is there for criminal prosecution NOT for being a sounding board for a
crackpot!
>But they sure know what you are. And he had no qualms about telling me.
You're a liar and a crackpot too!
>Sara
>
>PS. Who ever said I was going to "file charges" against you? I went to
>speak to your DA and your County Sheriff... and I did just that.
You wasted their time and resources.
>And we all had a very good laugh at YOUR expense.
Dream on pig-- they know what a crackpot you are as well as Philip Greene,
Daylin Leach and others.
Tavish
From: Sara "The Fist" Salzman
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
:
By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
--
It never rains under my umbrella
~~End~~
From: Sara "The Fist" Salzman
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:
> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.
I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience. <END>
Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position
and "fisting" herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
russky
> In article <u4hhjvkf952ekuh5u...@4ax.com>,
> Sonnyboy Tavish <Sonnybo...@AMERICAN-TAVISH-CENTRAL.NET> wrote:
>
> I just received a telephone call from Mr. Bradbury's District Attorney.
> He said:
>
> 1. Mr. Bradbury's comments about people calling me a lunatic = LIES.
> 2. Mr. Bradbury's comments about Sheriff's department = LIES.
> 3. Mr. Bradbury's comments about my son = LIES.
> 4. Mr. Bradbury's claim that he was in the DA's office recently = LIES.
>
> According to the DA, Mr. Bradbury has not spoken to the DA's office in
> 3-4 years.
>
> Hmmm... who should we believe? The District Attorney? Or a psychotic
> moron?
>
> I'll put my money on the DA.
>
> Sara
Is that the same DA that Fatboy accused of corruption?If so, I'd like
his email address.