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Joe Bruno

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Apr 25, 2006, 3:24:29 PM4/25/06
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These quotes are from "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", May 1992
printing(the 34th printing):


Page 364:Hitler was quite frank about keeping wages low."It has always
been an iron principle of the National Socialist leadership not to
permit
any rise in the hourly wage rates but to raise income solely by an
increase in performance". In a country where most wages were based at
least partly on piecework, this meant that a worker could hope to earn
more only by a speedup and longer hours.


Page 365:Finally, the take-home pay of the Germnan worker
shrank.Besides stiff income taxes,compulsory contributions to sickness,

unemployment and disability insurance,and Labor Front dues,, the manual

worker-like everyone else in Nazi Germany was constantly pressured to
make gifts to Nazi...charities. Many a workman lost his job because he
failed to contribute or because his contribution was deemed too small.


Page 366:Finally, on June 22, 1938, a special decree issued by the
Office of the four Year Plan instituted labor conscription. It obliged
every worker to work where the State assigned him. Workers who absented

themselves from their jobs without a very good excuse were subject to
fine and imprisonment.


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Topaz

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Apr 25, 2006, 10:14:18 PM4/25/06
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By Walter Ruthard

I myself was brought up in a small village in the southwest of
Germany. In 1939, when the war broke out, we left for the less exposed
Odenwald area until the possible danger of a French invasion had
passed. Shortly after that my father was transferred to the Ruhr
region. He as requested work as a foreman for the Mauser arms factory.
The government, true to their claims to be national and socialist,
took their promises seriously and provided young people starting a
family, as well as those who already had children, with affordable
housing. The first child brought a reduction of the mortgage by 25
percent, and when the fourth child arrived the mortgage was no more.
My parents already had four children then and thus were eligible for a
free newly built house from the government.

This was but one of the many programs the government established in
order to improve the quality of life for its citizens…

Then there was the "Kinderlandverschickung" program. It was started
before the war and enabled mothers in need of recreation to spend some
time in rural settings together with their children…

Another very popular social program of the government was "Fraft
durch Freude" (strength through joy). Here deserving workers could
take all-inclusive tours on luxury liners that were built especially
for this purpose. On these ships there was only one class and
everybody was treated the same. They visited the Azores and
Spitsbergen among other places. Those ships were not allowed to dock
in and English port however. The reason was that the British
government did not want it's citizens to see what it also could have
done for them…

The most misinterpreted program in Germany was the so-called
"Lebensborn". It was the exact opposite of what people are made to
believe it was, or should I say, of what people like to believe… The
Lebensborn was the institution to help unwed mothers who did not know
where to turn for help. They were taken care of during their
pregnancies and afterward as well. This was the Lebensborn, and any
other interpretation is plain hogwash…

My father was able to buy not one but three guns plus two pistols,
together with plenty of ammunition. All it took him was proof that he
was indeed a German citizen without a criminal record. Then in 1945,
when the French "liberated" us, they disarmed him. I know that he was
not the only one to have guns at home, because I saw the many, many
arms that were handed over to the French, and this was in a very small
village…

Then, after the war was over, we had our first experience with a real
democracy. The French introduced it and gave us some shining examples;
one was that the lived off the country and stole everything which
wasn't nailed down…

It was not until many years later that I learned that Hitler held at
least five plebiscites during the first half of his rule. In
democratic Germany, from 1945 until today there has never been a
plebiscite.

There were foreign workers employed in Germany during WWII. I knew
one of them. He worked on a farm and was treated exactly like the son
who was in the army. After the war he stayed on and married the
daughter of the house. He was a prisoner of war from Poland and I
never saw him guarded by any policeman. This is how foreigners were
treated in Germany. They earned the same wages as the Germans, they
took part in the social insurance program, had paid-for holidays
including free train fares, and many came back with friends who also
wanted to work for these "horrible" Germans. Today they are called
slave laborer.

Not everyone was entitled to go on to a university. Only good marks
and above-average performance in schools qualified. But good
performers were promoted with all means available. Today we are much
more democratic; everyone is entitled to a university education and if
the parents are wealthy enough, the son or daughter can study until
they are 35…

Germany was also the country to introduce, in 1933, the first-ever
comprehensive animal protection law. Farm animals had to be kept in
strictly natural environments and no animal factories were allowed. Of
course, no testing of products on animals was permitted, and no kosher
slaughter.

If new industrial facilities were built they had to conform to the
highest standards with adequate lighting and air inside, canteens
where the workers were served nutritious meals at affordable prices,
and beautiful lawns outside: all for the benefit of the workers…In
national socialist Germany, no child labor was allowed as it still was
in other European countries.


And finally, although I could still go on for a while, I would like to
mention that on express orders from Hitler himself, it was strictly
forbidden to use corporal punishment in the army. He was of the
opinion that in was incompatible with the honor of a German to be
punished by such degrading means.

That was the Germany I grew up in, and I am glad that I did.


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Kenneth McVay OBC

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Apr 26, 2006, 1:22:33 PM4/26/06
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In article <pqlt42hrr46atedgp...@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>By Walter Ruthard

[...]

> This was but one of the many programs the government established in
>order to improve the quality of life for its citizens…

Here are some other programs the government established in order to "improve the quality
of life:"

Slave Labour: http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-10-slaves-01.html
Violent deportation:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-10-slaves-03.html

The Concentration Camp Program of Extermination Through Work:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-10-slaves-07.html

http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-11-camps-01.html:

"The Concentration Camp, used against the people of Germany and allied nationals, was one
of the fundamental institutions of the Nazi regime. It was a pillar of the system of
terror by which the Nazis consolidated their power over Germany. It was a primary weapon
in the battle against the Jews, against the Christian church, against labor, against
those who wanted peace, against opposition or non- conformity of any kind. It involved
the systematic use of terror to achieve the cohesion within Germany which was necessary
for the execution of the conspirators' plans for aggression. It was the final link in a
chain of terror and repression which involved the SS and the Gestapo and which resulted
in the apprehension of victims and their confinement without trial, often without
charges, generally with no indication of the length of their detention.

The SS through its espionage system tracked down the victims; the criminal police and the
Gestapo seized them and brought them to the concentration camps; and the concentration
camps were administered by the SS. No attempt will be made to present a complete
catalogue of individual brutalities. The emphasis will rather be upon the fundamental
purposes for which these camps were used, the techniques of terror which were employed,
the large number of their victims, and the death and anguish which they caused."

The Persecution of the Jews:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-index.html

Hate Propaganda Against Jews:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-01.html

Discriminatory Decrees Against Jews:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-02.html

Anti-Jewish Boycotts, Raids and Violence:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-03.html

Forced Labour: http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-04-03.html

Extermination: http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-04-04.html

Starvation: http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-04-05.html

The Plunder of European Art Treasures by the thieves Mr. Vangel so admires:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-14-plunder-01.html

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you." (K. Knoll, Leading Revisionist Scholar)
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Joe Bruno

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Apr 26, 2006, 1:27:19 PM4/26/06
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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <pqlt42hrr46atedgp...@4ax.com>,
> Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >By Walter Ruthard
>
> [...]
>
> > This was but one of the many programs the government established in
> >order to improve the quality of life for its citizens...
Here's another such program-outright theft by the Fuhrer himself:

This is from page 368 of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", My
1992 edition(the 34th printing)

Hitler helped design the Volkswagen(people's car). Then he decreed that

the selling price to the German worker should be $396(990 marks).
However, private industry could not produce the auto that
cheaply.Hitler therefore ordered the State to build it and placed the
Labor Front(which supplanted the trade unions) in charge of the
project.


The main source of financing for the project was a
"pay-before-you-get-it" installment plan. Each worker would pay 5 marks

a week in advance(or more, if he could afford it) When 750 marks had
been paid in, the worker received an order number entitling him to an
auto as soon as it was turned out. Alas for the worker, not a single VW

was ever produced for any customer during the Third Reich. Tens of
millions of marks were paid in, not a pfennig of which was ever
refunded. When the war began, the VW factory turned to the production
of goods more useful to the Army.

Topaz

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Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:
We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down Müllerstraße it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.
Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.
The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.
Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.
No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.
It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.
We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.
Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.
If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"
That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.
As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.
At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.
Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.
The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.
Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.
In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."
Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"
Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platorm I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where there
were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised by
what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.

Topaz

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Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <iih552ldgo1ls155c...@4ax.com>,

Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:

Mr. Vangel forgot to mention that he thinks murder is a dandy way to
deal with "problem" children.

Here is a quote from Alex Vangel:

"I said I agreed with the Bible because it is against the
homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews. This is
what it says about delinquents:

"Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will
not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother,
and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto
them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him,
and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the
gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his
city, This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not
obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the
men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die:
so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel
shall hear, and fear." (UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject:
"Re: More crap from the VangelBot," 31 Jan. 2001. Message-ID:
3c589...@spamkiller.newsgroups.com)

Note that this quote from Mr. Vangel says nothing about
"homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews," as he
suggested. Yet he cites it to justify the murder of children
whose only crime was that of being found "unruly" by Adolf
Hitler's murdering thugs.

For information about Mr. Vangel's hate group, see
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity

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Joe Bruno

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Topaz wrote:
>

<deleted garbage by Hitler's Minister of Propaganda.

Where is the proof I asked you for? You and Hitler claim Jews
controlled the media in Germany. Where is the proof?

Joe Bruno

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Topaz wrote:
> By Walter Ruthard
>
> I

Joe Bruno

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Topaz

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Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
the Will.
"It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and
precisely. This is especially true since in past decades it was
subject to unfavorable definitions, particularly as the enemy defined
it with regards to us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those
abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly
good in this area, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the
facts. We learned this all too clearly during the World War. While the
enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at
Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely
defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly
won over the greater part of the neutral states did the German
government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too
late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the
war, so too with propaganda. We lost the
war in this area more than in any other.
The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war
was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even
today large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical
characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing
the facts and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that
were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about
German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to
realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of
calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.
The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation,
particularly as the result of political practice in Germany.
Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern
state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the
subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not
only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand
that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes
everything that helps the people to realize this.
Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is
aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people
because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the
highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts
in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its
foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand,
rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a
question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach,
evidence and language.
Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to
an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without
internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a
superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it
wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such
is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the the
goals it seeks."
"Each propaganda had a direction. The quality of this direction
determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good
propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people
cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the
truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A
propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be
successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along
that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good
cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is
good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. But a good idea
is itself the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without
being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works
without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it
is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will
lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other
side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are for example
convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not
enough. The world should also have known that our cause was good.
However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that
clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals.
Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich and the army
because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.
National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the
correct practical conclusions from that knowledges. The ideal of a
socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but
became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million
Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for
that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of
remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda,
it became hard, steely everyday reality."
"Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its
elimination was the end result of a process that began in the people.
But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people
that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive
national discipline of the German press would never have been possible
without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish
press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our
propaganda. Today particularism in Germany is something of the past.
The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich
is no accident, rather depended on psychological foundations that were
established by our propaganda.
Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of
class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not
rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings
resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and
workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor
is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and
more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and
tireless labor of thousands of speakers?"
"We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the
people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major
cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are
possible only with the powerful support of the people. The
prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and
maintains the connection to the people.
The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million Marks. This was
not the result of taxation, rather many gifts of every amount.
Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done
nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda
using every modern means presented the whole nation with the need of
this program of social assistance.
45 million Reich Marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million
Reich Marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich Marks
worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich Marks worth of meals
were provided, and 70 million Reich Marks worth of clothing.
Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind,
others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of
a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts
subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million
Reich Marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of "One Dish
Sundays." The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the
contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or
free shipping with a value of 14 million Marks.
Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter
Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid
workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 Gaue and 330 in the Reich
headquarters.
Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social
assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success
was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was
cold.
Over 40 million people approved of the Führer's decision to leave the
League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to
speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace
and equality as the national ideals of the German people. The issues
of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again,
propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November,
and therefore of the freedom of action that the Führer had.
Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the
support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda
that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public
life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public
opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership
and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the
goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose and
goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and
ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over
other nations will never again be lost.
May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives
light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda.
Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and
drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging
technical means. Only a living relationship between people, movement
and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, which he
have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into
bureaucracy and official narrow-mindedness.
Creative people made it and put it in the service of our movement. We
must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its
service.
It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm
ground on which it must stand. It rises from the depths of the people,
and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength.
It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer
lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a nation."

Topaz

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On 29 Apr 2006 17:44:26 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
wrote:

>
>Where is the proof I asked you for? You and Hitler claim Jews
>controlled the media in Germany. Where is the proof?
>

Jews pretend not to see the point, hoping others will do the same.

It's easy to prove that the media is a pack of liars. If they were not
liars they would tell people that Hitler believed that the Jews
controlled the media. Why don't they? Here are some quotes from Mein
Kampf:
"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the Jewish
Press is not a staunch German and not a true National Socialist. The
best rule whereby the sincerity of his convictions, his character and
strength of will, can be measured is by the hostility which his name
arouses among the mortal enemies of our people.
"The followers of the movement, and indeed the whole nation, must be
reminded again and again of the fact that, through the medium of his
newspapers, the Jew is always spreading falsehood and that if he tells
the truth on some occasions it is only for the purpose of masking some
greater deceit, which turns the apparent truth into a deliberate
falsehood. The Jew is the Great Master of Lies. Falsehood and
duplicity are the weapons with which he fights.
"Every calumny and falsehood published by the Jews are tokens of honor
which can be worn by our comrades. He whom they decry most is nearest
to our hearts and he whom they mortally hate is our best friend.
"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning and does
not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday to no
account. For if he had achieved something he would be persecuted,
slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively combat this
mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the enemy of all
Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse opposition on
the part of this race and become the object of its slanderous attacks.
"When these truths become part of the flesh and blood, as it were, of
our members, then the movement will be impregnable and invincible."
" Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with that fact
before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my
respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style became
still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as entirely
shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation of facts
and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain more
falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.
"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed to me
now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand things which
I had formerly looked at in a different light."
"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Joe Bruno

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Topaz wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2006 17:44:26 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Where is the proof I asked you for? You and Hitler claim Jews
> >controlled the media in Germany. Where is the proof?
> >
> Jews pretend not to see the point, hoping others will do the same.

Is that why you run away from my demands for proof, coward?

>
> It's easy to prove that the media is a pack of liars. If they were not
> liars they would tell people that Hitler believed that the Jews
> controlled the media. Why don't they? Here are some quotes from Mein
> Kampf:
>

You already posted that bullshit and it proves nothing. The media
doesn't post Hitler's claims because there is no evidence to support
them.

Joe Bruno

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May 1, 2006, 12:17:39 AM5/1/06
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Topaz wrote:
> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
> Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
> the Will.

<deletia>
>


A speech proves nothing. Where is the evidence?


Ben Cramer

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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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You clowns continue to post "speeches" which are meant to be taken as
evidence of your holohoax.


Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <d4ja521dgr5ionrfq...@4ax.com>,

Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 29 Apr 2006 17:44:26 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Where is the proof I asked you for? You and Hitler claim Jews
>>controlled the media in Germany. Where is the proof?
>>
> Jews pretend not to see the point, hoping others will do the same.

Mr. Vangel forgot to mention that he thinks murder is a dandy way to
deal with "problem" children.

--
'I fully accept this, it's a fact. The discussion on Auschwitz, the gas
chambers and the Holocaust is finished ... it's useless to dispute it'.
(David Irving on Holocaust denial, as quoted by his Austrian lawyer)

Kenneth McVay OBC

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May 1, 2006, 12:22:15 PM5/1/06
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In article <37ja52p9dqama8hmu...@4ax.com>,

Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in

For information about Mr. Vangel's hate group, see

Topaz

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May 1, 2006, 10:10:49 PM5/1/06
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On 30 Apr 2006 20:45:29 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
wrote:

So, the media does not tell people what Hitler said or what he
believed. That is very interesting. It's too bad you are a Jew,
otherwise you might see also find it interesting.

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