Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
Nicegoy
In the face of mounting scientific evidence, there is persistent denial by
American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are
thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by
parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their
babies. It provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as autism.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
KCOM
"Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
> Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>
>
>
Rossy, please keep on topic, and stop spamming the group...
Sara
<KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
centurytel.net isn't Rossy. It's Don Ellis.
--
"This is no social crisis, it's just you having fun."
- Pete Townshend
KCOM
>In article <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>, "KCOM"
><KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
>
>> "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
>> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Rossy, please keep on topic, and stop spamming the group...
>>
>>
>
>centurytel.net isn't Rossy. It's Don Ellis.
OOpps...Well most people would take calling them Rossy as an insult,
but knowing Ellis, he'd take it as a compliment... :)
Steve
Steph
Is this what your mother said to you? Remember the times she said to you,'
your very special'. Now yer know what she was getting at.
--
SexyBitch
http://shezyb.port5.com
Nizkor's Nemesis
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>, "KCOM"
><KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
>
>> "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
>> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
:
>> Rossy, please keep on topic, and stop spamming the group...
My address as well as my neighbors' certainly isn't on topic but seeing how
autism was brought up I got an anonymous e-mail which I verified and it showed:
http://www.autismcolorado.org/about.htm
Colorado Chapter
Autism Society of America
5031 W. Quarles Drive
Littleton, CO 80128-6415
Fax/Phone: (303) 978-1440
Erin Gagnon President, Colorado Chapter
Officers and Directors
June 2001 - May 2002 & May 2003
President: Erin Gagnon
Vice-president: Jacob Pomerantz
Treasurer: Andy Lewis
Corresponding Secretary: Allie Richardson
Recording Secretary: Darlene Coleman
Directors:
Ann Dosen
Robin Gabriels
Ed Goldson
Susan Hepburn
Betty Lehman
Sharon Mann
Judy Reaven
Sally Rogers
Jack Robinson
Sara Salzman
^^^^^^^^^^^^
If your children aren't retarded then why are you active in that group above?
You just have a good heart- right?
Doc Tavish
--
Double standards exposed by Tom Moran
"Jews running around the United States in a frenzy demanding that
Christian symbols not be displayed on public lands is not
anti-Christianism. Ridiculing the Jews for running all around the
United States demanding that Christian symbols not be displayed is
"anti-Semitism". Now that is typical Jewishness." Tom Moran 12/20/2001
Message-ID: <3c4802fc....@newsproxy.pacificnet.net>
KCOM
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote in
message news:23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com...
> On 21 Dec 2001 13:23:52 GMT,
> <catamont-7BEF60...@news.concentric.net> Sara
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>, "KCOM"
> ><KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> >> news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
> >> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> :
> >> Rossy, please keep on topic, and stop spamming the group...
>
> My address as well as my neighbors' certainly isn't on topic but seeing
how
> autism was brought up I got an anonymous e-mail which I verified and it
showed:
>
>
Well Bradbury, I thought you had me kill filed but since you don't, I'm
happy to say stop spamming my group with worthless URLs, get the fuck out of
my group, and fuck off you overly adipose tissue endowed, retarded bucket of
boiled pig fuck...
Steve
KCOM
news:9vvdue$hujml$1...@ID-123601.news.dfncis.de...
Not really Steph, when Blakely's mother said he was *special* , she didn't
mean he was autistic, just retarded...
Steve
Sara
t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail wrote:
No, you ignoramus, I have a child with _autism_. I suppose you were too
drunk to read this the first time around:
"Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically appears
during the first three years of life. The result of a neurological
disorder that affects the functioning of the brain, autism and its
associated behaviors have been estimated to occur in as many as 1 in 500
individuals (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1997). Autism is
four times more prevalent in boys than girls and knows no racial,
ethnic, or social boundaries. Family income, lifestyle, and educational
levels do not affect the chance of autism's occurrence. "
http://www.autism-society.org/autism.html
And from the same page:
"Several outdated theories about the cause of autism have been proven to
be false. Autism is not a mental illness. Children with autism are not
unruly kids who choose not to behave. Autism is not caused by bad
parenting. Furthermore, no known psychological factors in the
development of the child have been shown to cause autism."
Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
Steph
"KCOM" <KC...@Bastard.com> wrote in message
news:GMIU7.92486$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com...
There ain't much diffrence, they walk around with their head on a side and
slurr and spit alot.
<chuckles>
--
Steph
The true sick Bitch
KCOM
So you're chuckling again eh...? Well with Scott Bradbury flashing his 2"
whinnie around all over the usenet I can understand that... Yo gotta protect
yourself against such things you know Steph...A girl can't be too careful...
Steve
Steph
"KCOM" <KC...@Bastard.com> wrote in message
2 Inches?????? Jezzus, and they say size don't count but that's ridiculous.
--
SexyBitch
http://shezyb.port5.com
The One
"Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net...
just tell the dickless wonder to bugger off.
Neo
--
Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.
Jean de la Bruyere
GassenBurnham
>From: "KCOM" KC...@Bastard.com
>Date: 12/21/01 10:17 PM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
A clear demonstration of autism.
Frightening!
"If I am killing a rat with a stick and have him in a corner, I am not
indignant if he tries to bite me and squeals and gibbers with rage. My job is
to attend to my footwork and to keep on hitting him where it will do the most
good" A. S. Lees
GassenBurnham
>From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>Date: 12/21/01 11:23 PM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <catamont-7BEF60...@news.concentric.net>
That'll do pig....that'll do!
GassenBurnham
>From: KCOM KC...@Bastard.com
>Message-id: <1be62uop2h3up0157...@4ax.com>
Do I smell 'pig fuck' in the wind?
GassenBurnham
>From: Nizkor's Nemesis
>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail
>Date: 12/22/01 12:21 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
>You just have a good heart- right?
>
And suitable for transplant into a human, if current research is successful.
GassenBurnham
>From: "KCOM" KC...@Bastard.com
>Date: 12/22/01 12:34 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <jMHU7.92370$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
This social leper has the hots for you, Pig Gal.
Every time you show your snout, he starts raving about 'pig fuck'.
GassenBurnham
>From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
>
>
>Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>
Who told you that?
An 'emminent shrink' I suppose.
You jews, when it affects anyone else it's a mental illness, when it affects
you, it's not.
1 in 500.... are there that many unloved kids in the US?
Joel Rosenberg
> >Subject: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
> >Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
> >
>
> >
> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
> >
>
> Who told you that?
Donnie, if you'd read the entire message, you'd have seen the
attribution.
Just when I think you couldn't get any dumber, you hold the
piss-filled boot up over your head, and proclaim to the world, "I
can't quite read these instructions written on the heel."
--
-------------------------------------
There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun,
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.
-------------------------------------
John Morris
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In <foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:09:29 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>
>
> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
Okay. Produce the evidence.
> there is persistent denial by
> American society of the causes of damage to millions of children
> who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of
> cruel treatment by parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to
> love and care for their babies. It provides a social blanket for
> Sara, when ask about her son's erratic behavior she merely passes
> her hidden faults off as autism.
What erratic behavior?
Do you think anyone believes anything you say?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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KCOM
(GassenBurnham) wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>From: Nizkor's Nemesis
>>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail
>>Date: 12/22/01 12:21 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
>
>>You just have a good heart- right?
>>
>
>And suitable for transplant into a human, if current research is successful.
Translation "<smooch> Can I kiss it again Mr. Bradbury?"
Steve
Vellicet
>From: Joel Rosenberg jo...@ellegon.com
>Date: 22/12/01 5:47 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <m2g064c...@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com>
>
>gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham) writes:
>
>> >Subject: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
>> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>> >Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>> >
>>
>> Who told you that?
>
>Donnie, if you'd read the entire message, you'd have seen the
>attribution.
That particular 'Gassenburnham' is the real one from Oz not the sock puppet.
Mind you apart from the ISP it's difficult to tell, their both so ignorant.
Nicegoy, using lack of personal hygiene with some spin:
"I got dirt under my finger nails' I worked so hard to-day.
Jason James
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 5:23 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011221132307...@mb-cp.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>From: Nizkor's Nemesis
>>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail
>>Date: 12/22/01 12:21 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
>
>>You just have a good heart- right?
>>
>
>And suitable for transplant into a human, if current research is successful.
How come you go to the Vet when you're sick?
Jason James
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 6:29 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ea372ukpa697e2ieh...@4ax.com>
Yep,...an ass-kisser is our Ross.
Jason James
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
wrote:
Bardshit once again shows his wide range of ignorance. Autism is not
mental retardation.
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net> Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
:
>No, you ignoramus, I have a child with _autism_. I suppose you were too
>drunk to read this the first time around:
[...]
>Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
Where did I mention "mental illness" you spastic pig?
Doc Tavish
Sara
John....@UAlberta.CA wrote:
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> In <foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:09:29 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> >
> >
> > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> Okay. Produce the evidence.
>
> > there is persistent denial by
> > American society of the causes of damage to millions of children
> > who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of
> > cruel treatment by parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to
> > love and care for their babies. It provides a social blanket for
> > Sara, when ask about her son's erratic behavior she merely passes
> > her hidden faults off as autism.
>
> What erratic behavior?
>
> Do you think anyone believes anything you say?
>
The most amusing thing is that after publicly stating that autism means
"retarded," these geniuses have sent mail (or claim to have sent mail)
to the Board of Directors of the Colorado Autism Society about me.
Like any of the other professionals who sit on the board are going to
spend 2 seconds believing Donnie and his pals.
Sara
Sweely
"_Nizkor's Nemesis_"
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail> wrote in
message news:hn772u0ov8anqe6eo...@4ax.com...
> Where did I mention "mental illness" you spastic pig?
>
> Doc Tavish
You *are* a mental illness, asshole. Now get the fuck out of my group
before I bust you up, cunt face.
--
Sweely
Sara
t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail wrote:
What is "retarded," you fat ton of blubber?
Sara
gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham) wrote:
> >Subject: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
> >Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
> >
>
> >
> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
> >
>
> Who told you that?
No, you illiterate slug, read the post. The source is clearly listed.
> An 'emminent shrink' I suppose.
Since it's not a mental illness, why would a shrink diagnose it,
Brainiac?
>
> You jews, when it affects anyone else it's a mental illness, when it
> affects
> you, it's not.
Says who? Oh, the Mental Blunder from Down Under, od course.
Sara
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
Thus we see another one of Sara's UK Trolls showing their mentality!
Doc Tavish
---I, Doc Tavish, asked:
>Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller (and Associates) and Paul
>Trainor (Law Office) distanced themselves from you?
(Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> answered):
Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
<SH9g7.634$7d.2...@newshog.newsread.com> 8/20/2001
>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<catamont-EC544D...@news.concentric.net> Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <hn772u0ov8anqe6eo...@4ax.com>,
>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail wrote:
>> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>>
>> Where did I mention "mental illness" you spastic pig?
>>
>> Doc Tavish
:
>What is "retarded," you fat ton of blubber?
Again, where did I say "mental illness" as you imply? As for the name calling I
wouldn't be calling vanyone a "fat ton of blubber" seeing how you look like
this: --- http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
SUE SUE SUUEEY PIG PIG SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
Doc Tavish
---
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." -- Kook Sara Salzman having a perverted fantasy
in <alt.sex.bondage>
-From: ssch...@infinet.com
-Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
-Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
-Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
<catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net> Sara
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
[...]
>Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
Other sources disagree with you Sara!
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
Here is what the National Institute of Mental Health says:
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/numbers.cfm
Mental Disorders in America
Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An
estimated 22.1 percent of Americans ages 18 and olderóabout 1 in 5 adultsósuffer
from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year.
Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time.
In the U.S., mental disorders are diagnosed based on the Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV).
[...]<Many mental disorders deleted>
Autism affects an estimated 1 to 2 per 1,000 people. Autism and related
disorders (also called autism spectrum disorders or pervasive developmental
disorders) develop in childhood and generally are apparent by age 3.
Autism is about 4 times more common in boys than girls. Girls with the disorder,
however, tend to have more severe symptoms and greater cognitive impairment.
<END>
If autism is not a mental disorder or a mental illness as some people call it
then why would the "National Institute of Mental Health" be listing it?
http://www.nami.org/illness/
National Alliance for the Mentally Ill
At the heart of NAMI's mission is the sharing of information with consumers
(i.e., persons with mental illnesses), their families, friends, mental health
professionals, and the general public. NAMI educates all people about severe and
persistent mental illnesses to eliminate stigma and promote access to integrated
systems of care, education, and rehabilitation.
Illnesses:
Anorexia nervosa
Anxiety disorder
ADHD
Autism/Asperger's
Autism and Asperger's syndrome: Autism is classified as one of the most
pervasive developmental disorders of the brain. ...
<end>
http://www.nami.org/campaign/statepar.htm
National Alliance for the Mentally Ill
State Mental Illness Parity Laws
Overview of State Parity Laws
Officially designated "The Decade of the Brain," the 1990s brought unprecedented
federal and state legislation to end health insurance discrimination against
individuals with mental illnesses. After the Mental Health Parity Act of 1996
was signed into law, the momentum shifted to the states.
[...]
California
1999
Provides for persons of any age equal coverage for severe mental illnesses,
including schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depressive disorders,
schizoaffective disorder, panic disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder,
autism...
<end>
http://www.nmha.org/infoctr/factsheets/73.cfm
National Mental Health Association
What is Autism?
Autism is one of the mental, emotional, and behavioral disorders that appears in
early childhood. Autistic children may have a serious lifelong disability.
However, with appropriate treatment and training, some autistic children can
develop certain aspects of independence in their lives. Parents should support
their autistic children in developing those skills that use their strengths so
they will feel good about themselves.
What Are the Signs Of Autism?
When an infant or toddler:
-does not cuddle or respond to affection and touching.
-does not make eye contact.
-appears to be unable to communicate.
-displays persistent failure to develop two-way social relationships in any
situation.
-does not show a preference for parents over other adults.
-does not develop friendships with other children.
-has poor language skills; or nonexistent ones.
-shows unusual, extreme responses to objects either avoidance or preoccupation.
-finds moving objects, such as a fan, hold great fascination.
-may form an unusual attachment to odd objects such as a paper or rubberband.
-displays repetitive activities of a restrictive range.
-spins and repeats body movements, such as arm flapping.
-may repeat television commercials.
-may indulge in complex bedtime rituals.
The symptoms of autism range from mild to severe. Although symptoms of the
disorder sometimes can be seen in early infancy, the condition may appear after
months of normal development. About 7 in every 10 children and adolescents with
autism also have mental retardation..
<<How about that fact Sara? Doc Tavish comment>>
What Causes Autism?
Researchers are unsure about what causes autism. Several studies suggest that
autistic disorder might be caused by a combination of biological factors,
including exposure to a virus before birth, a problem with the immune system, or
genetics.
<END>
Would drug abuse be a factor I wonder? It should figure in as a biological or
genetic factor. Many studies have been made about genetic damage from drug
abuse! Care to deny it anyone? We all know for a fact Sara Salzman admitted drug
abuse in her family arrangement too!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=catamont-D20A99.14393008022001%40news.concentric.net
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Psycho Sara and Susie, the 40 yr old Welch MALE plumber
Date: 08 Feb 2001 21:39:42 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-D20A99...@news.concentric.net>
[...]
Both of my children test in the 95% percentile for their ages. Neither
is retarted, severely or not. Both are in the "gifted" programs at their
respective schools..
<<It is now established that your son has autism so your argument:
"Both of my children test in the 95% percentile for their ages. Neither
is retarted.." is specious especially when the National Mental Health
Association has made known: "About 7 in every 10 children and adolescents
with autism also have mental retardation" (cited above) I charged before
that your saying ""gifted" programs at their respective schools" was a
euphemism and all of your pals attacked me for stating the truth! Well I
just gave you a heavy dose of reality! Now stop being in denial! Doc Tavish
comment>>
The funniest part of this is that, although I do smoke cigarettes (as
did my ex-husband), HE was the one who abused drugs. I removed the kids
from a houseful of it.
<<Too late! Like ducking after the cannon goes off! The genetics of the drug
abuser were a factor in the birth of your children!! Doc Tavish comment>>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Everyone be sure to verify the above post before Sara NUKES it too and starts
denying ever posting it!!
Need I say more other than hold your ears because the "Fat Lady Will Sing."
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
Nicegoy
> t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail wrote:
>
> > On 21 Dec 2001 13:23:52 GMT,
>
>
> No, you ignoramus, I have a child with _autism_. I suppose you were too
> drunk to read this the first time around:
>
>
>
> during the first three years of life. The result of a neurological
> disorder that affects the functioning of the brain, autism and its
> associated behaviors have been estimated to occur in as many as 1 in 500
> individuals (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1997). Autism is
> four times more prevalent in boys than girls and knows no racial,
> ethnic, or social boundaries. Family income, lifestyle, and educational
> levels do not affect the chance of autism's occurrence. "
> http://www.autism-society.org/autism.html
>
> And from the same page:
>
> "Several outdated theories about the cause of autism have been proven to
> be false. Autism is not a mental illness. Children with autism are not
> unruly kids who choose not to behave. Autism is not caused by bad
> parenting. Furthermore, no known psychological factors in the
> development of the child have been shown to cause autism."
>
>
>
American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are
thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by
parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their
babies. It provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as autism.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
Nicegoy
"John Faggot Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
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> In <foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:09:29 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> >
> >
> > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> Okay. Produce the evidence.
>
> > there is persistent denial by
> > American society of the causes of damage to millions of children
> > who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of
> > cruel treatment by parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to
> > love and care for their babies. It provides a social blanket for
> > Sara, when ask about her son's erratic behavior she merely passes
> > her hidden faults off as autism.
>
> What erratic behavior?
>
> Do you think anyone believes anything you say?
Why did you request evidence?
> - --
> John Morris
Nicegoy
> In article <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>, "KCOM"
> <KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
>
> > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Wanna bet?
Nicegoy
> In article <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>,
> t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail wrote:
>
> > On 21 Dec 2001 13:23:52 GMT,
> > <catamont-7BEF60...@news.concentric.net> Sara
> > <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >
> > ><KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net...
> > >> > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> > :
> > >> Rossy, please keep on topic, and stop spamming the group...
> >
According to a recent study by the World Health Organization, the World
Bank, and Harvard University, mental disorders account for 4 of the 10
leading causes of disability in established market economies worldwide.
These disorders are: major depression, autism spectrum disorders,
manic-depressive illness, schizophrenia, and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
Other research has estimated that the cost of mental illnesses in the United
States, including indirect costs such as days lost from work, was $148
billion in 1990, the last time the total bill was measured.
Autism
Autism and related disorders (also called autism spectrum disorders or
pervasive developmental disorders) represent chronic and severely disabling
developmental disorders. There is no known cure.
There are 1 to 2 cases of autism per 1,000 people.
These disorders develop in childhood and are generally apparent by age
three.
Autism is three to four times more common in boys than girls. Girls with
the disorder, however, tend to have more severe symptoms and lower
intelligence.
These disorders present families with financially and emotionally costly
challenges over the lifespan of their affected children. About 60 percent of
adults with autism will require continued care throughout their lives.
The cost of health and educational services to those affected by autism
exceeds $3 billion each year.
KCOM
>
> "Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:catamont-7BEF60...@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>, "KCOM"
> > <KC...@Bastard.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>
>
> Wanna bet?
>
That you're an idiot Blakely...? Everybody already knows that... And since
you can't keep on topic in my group fuck off you jism lipped cunt...
Steve
Ken Lewis
<t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
wrote:
>On 21 Dec 2001 16:30:02 GMT,
><catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net> Sara
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>Other sources disagree with you Sara!
t the National Institute of Mental Health says:
[snip]
>If autism is not a mental disorder or a mental illness as some people call it
>then why would the "National Institute of Mental Health" be listing it?
If you only knew how damn stupid you appear to the rest of the world
every time you open your craw you'd crawl into a sewer ans die of
embarrasment.
ALL'mental illnesses' are listed and classified in the Diagnostic and
Stastistical Manual of the American Psycychiatric Association
(DSM-IV).
Autism is not in DSM-IV.
The NIMH lists all illness that effect the brain, i.e. neurological
disorders.
Once again you lose and along the way show yourself to be totally
ignorant of another subject.
Is there anything you DO know?
Chris C. Larson
> wouldn't be calling vanyone a "fat ton of blubber" seeing how you look like
> this: --- http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
>
> SUE SUE SUUEEY PIG PIG SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
>
> Doc Tavish
Nizkor Nemesis? The last thing Nizkor worries about is an obese, gay
Texan. The sight of Tavish and current love interest Bruno cuddling
together on a king size bed must be quite a sight-but one I hope I
never see!
Chris Larson
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Chris C. Larson <larsonc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[TubbyWhining flushed down the old Bradbury]
>Nizkor Nemesis? The last thing Nizkor worries about is an obese, gay
>Texan. The sight of Tavish and current love interest Bruno cuddling
>together on a king size bed must be quite a sight-but one I hope I
>never see!
Mr. Bradbury is a common joke amoung Nizkor volunteers, who routinely
say things like "gotta take a bradbury" before heading for the loo..
wouldn't have any other way, and he certainly is deserving of such
accurate tribute.
--
IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany
and America's Most Powerful Corporation, by Edwin Black
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0609607995/thenizkorproject/
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
GassenBurnham
>From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>Date: 12/22/01 6:33 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <catamont-41DD84...@news.concentric.net>
Then why prattle so?
Do you have something to hide?
GassenBurnham
>Date: 12/22/01 6:20 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <20011221152053...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
>>From: Joel Rosenberg jo...@ellegon.com
>>Date: 22/12/01 5:47 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <m2g064c...@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com>
>>
>>gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham) writes:
>>
>>> >Subject: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
>>> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>>> >Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>> >Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>>> >
>>>
>>> Who told you that?
>>
>>Donnie, if you'd read the entire message, you'd have seen the
>>attribution.
>
>That particular 'Gassenburnham' is the real one from Oz not the sock puppet.
>Mind you apart from the ISP it's difficult to tell, their both so ignorant.
>
Whilst on the subject of ignorance, mister 'pico means 10 to the power of -9!!!
Care to revise the use of the word 'THEIR' in the above sentence?
>Nicegoy, using lack of personal hygiene with some spin:
>"I got dirt under my finger nails' I worked so hard to-day.
>
Is this supposed to be some sort of quote?
If so, cite the source?
>
>Jason James
Now here is a demonstration of how to use ridicule effectively, youngster:
From: Jason James </groups?hl=en&q=author:tourer%40optusnet.com.au+>
(tou...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:tourer%40optusnet.com.au>) Subject: Re: "Behind
Communism," by Frank L. Britton. Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
</groups?hl=en&group=alt.revisionism>
View: Complete Thread (10 articles)
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Date: 2001-03-14 01:56:08 PST
> *Its a fallacy to assert a group of people find persecution a central
>tenet of their religion. One person comes to mind though : Sado Masoch and
>followers. Some dickhead who enjoyed punishment.
>--
>Jason James
I hold several other instances of your absurd ignorance in reserve for further
ridicule at a later date.
GassenBurnham
>From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Date: 12/22/01 12:09 PM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <a00q0i$1ihm$1...@news.tht.net>
Considering the level of hygeine around your place, Kenny.
Perhaps they are refering to the prophylactic anti bacterials they ingest
before visiting your lunch room.
GassenBurnham
>From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
>Date: 12/22/01 9:00 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <catamont-DD168E...@news.concentric.net>
ROTFLMFAO.... Got the pig gal tilted at last!!!!
That gave you a touch of 'swine fever', didn't it pig gal?
GassenBurnham
>Date: 12/22/01 6:24 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <20011221152450...@mb-fe.aol.com>
LOL.... and you are doing what for Kcom, here?????
Ignorant, uneducated, fool.
GassenBurnham
>Date: 12/22/01 6:22 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <20011221152235...@mb-fe.aol.com>
Huh????
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 1:52 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011221215237...@mb-fe.aol.com>
And here we have it,...big brave Ross calling names and generally acting like
a ignorant slob. Piss off back to your cave, and try and quell the urge to
join in a gutless attack on a woman.
Jason James
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20011221215237...@mb-fe.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
> >Date: 12/22/01 9:00 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <catamont-DD168E...@news.concentric.net>
> >
> >In article <20011221132912...@mb-cp.aol.com>,
> >gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham) wrote:
> >
> >> >Subject: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> >> >From: Sara cata...@concentric.net
> >> >Date: 12/22/01 2:30 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
> >> >
> >>
> >> Who told you that?
> >
> >No, you illiterate slug, read the post. The source is clearly listed.
> >
> >> An 'emminent shrink' I suppose.
> >
> >Since it's not a mental illness, why would a shrink diagnose it,
> >Brainiac?
> >
> >>
> >> You jews, when it affects anyone else it's a mental illness, when it
> >> affects
> >> you, it's not.
> >
> >Says who? Oh, the Mental Blunder from Down Under, od course.
> >
> >
> >Sara
>
> ROTFLMFAO.... Got the pig gal tilted at last!!!!
>
> That gave you a touch of 'swine fever', didn't it pig gal?
>
Sara is pissed because her S&M child is growing up to be just like her...a
crackpot.
You know all the kids at his school make fun of him because of his crackpot
S&M mother.
I feel sorry for the little boy, forced to live in trash.
Knock, knock...DHS calling.
Nicegoy
"Vellicet" <vell...@aol.comzapspam> wrote in message
news:20011221223134...@mb-co.aol.com...
LOL...please define 'woman'. Jason's attenpt to defend a female child
abuser.
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
I'm e-mailing you a file...LOL
Her secret is out.
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson) wrote:
>From: larsonc...@hotmail.com (Chris C. Larson)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: Scott Bradbury Nizkor Nemesis?
>Date: 21 Dec 2001 18:01:58 -0800
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>>
>> Again, where did I say "mental illness" as you imply? As for the name calling I
>> wouldn't be calling anyone a "fat ton of blubber" seeing how you look like
>> this: --- http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif
>>
>> SUE SUE SUUEEY PIG PIG SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
>>
>> Doc Tavish
:
>Nizkor Nemesis? The last thing Nizkor worries about is an obese, gay
>Texan. The sight of Tavish and current love interest Bruno cuddling
>together on a king size bed must be quite a sight-but one I hope I
>never see!
>
>Chris Larson
Personal attack is all you have isn't it Laurence B. Shiff?
Doc Tavish
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <a00q0i$1ihm$1...@news.tht.net>
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: veritas.nizkor.org
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:09:22 +0000 (UTC), <a00q0i$1ihm$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <6b3bfd67.01122...@posting.google.com>,
>Chris C. Larson <larsonc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>[TubbyWhining flushed down the old Bradbury]
:
>>Nizkor Nemesis? The last thing Nizkor worries about is an obese, gay
>>Texan. The sight of Tavish and current love interest Bruno cuddling
>>together on a king size bed must be quite a sight-but one I hope I
>>never see!
:
>Mr. Bradbury is a common joke amoung Nizkor volunteers, who routinely
>say things like "gotta take a bradbury" before heading for the loo..
>wouldn't have any other way, and he certainly is deserving of such
>accurate tribute.
I see you agreeing with your fellow thug, Laurence B. Shiff, but I see neither
of you refuting what I have been posting on a factual basis. Why is that McVay?
What does it tell everyone who is watching and who will be reading the archive
to this post in the future? Anyone reading it will see all you and your pals can
do in reply to documented fact is to ignore them, delete them, and then lay on
personal attacks, name calling, forge canceling my posts, flooding the news
groups with hundreds of posts forged in my name, e-mail bombing me, making death
threats by telephone or web pages or USENET posting? What sort of "truth has to
be defended with criminal activity"?
Here is my old observation:
Subject: Liberal Can Only Dodge Original Premise aka Re: Bradbury
is ignorant of his history (anyone surprised?)
From: Angus Scrimm McTavish <tav...@spam-not.net>
Date: 1997/06/02
Message-ID: <3392EA...@spam-not.net>
Originally written in a letter to Liberal Radio Talk Show Host Jim
Hightower:
"I am tired of seeing people get attacked for speaking the truth and
the hecklers not being able to prove their point other than scorn or
ridicule. Liberals can't refute the truth so all liberals instead
attempt to make the truth bearer into a buffoon hoping to draw the
public's attention away from the message! I will tell you a secret and
I hope that you learn from it! This is my original- "If I hear
something being debated pertaining to a subject that I am not
cognizant of, therefore impartial, I examine the manner of the debate
and conduct. I know who is telling the truth and who is lying by the
tactics employed- the liar always attacks the opposing person and the
truth teller always attacks the opposing premise!" "
Need I say more other than my opposition can't refute me on a factual basis!
Doc Tavish
---
"We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink containing
wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal of the
bottle has been opened." <http://www.kashrus.org/kosher/supervis.html>
Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and Spirit,
The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the
wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
_Nizkor's Nemesis_
Subject: Re: Autism is Mental Illness and Sara Salzman Backs Herself Into a
Corner (As Usual)! aka Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:32:46 GMT
Message-ID: <3c25e17b....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
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<catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:32:46 GMT, <3c25e17b....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:02:43 -0600, _Nizkor's Nemesis_
><t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail>
>wrote:
>
>>On 21 Dec 2001 16:30:02 GMT,
>><catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net> Sara
>><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>>>Got that? "Autism is not a mental illness."
>
>>Other sources disagree with you Sara!
>
>Here is what the National Institute of Mental Health says
>
>[snip]
You just can't let the facts get in the way can you Lewis?
I faithfully restore for the sake of the archives precisely what you deleted and
wish to ignore:
<START>
<<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is
distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed
a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit
research and educational purposes only. - FAIR USE INTENDED>>>
Here is what the National Institute of Mental Health says:
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/numbers.cfm
Mental Disorders in America
Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An
estimated 22.1 percent of Americans ages 18 and olderóabout 1 in 5 adultsósuffer
from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year.
Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time.
In the U.S., mental disorders are diagnosed based on the Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV).
[...]<Many mental disorders deleted>
Autism affects an estimated 1 to 2 per 1,000 people. Autism and related
disorders (also called autism spectrum disorders or pervasive developmental
disorders) develop in childhood and generally are apparent by age 3.
Autism is about 4 times more common in boys than girls. Girls with the disorder,
however, tend to have more severe symptoms and greater cognitive impairment.
<END>
If autism is not a mental disorder or a mental illness as some people call it
then why would the "National Institute of Mental Health" be listing it?
<end>
[...]
California
<end>
<END>
[...]
Doc Tavish
<STOP>
>>If autism is not a mental disorder or a mental illness as some people call it
>>then why would the "National Institute of Mental Health" be listing it?
:
>If you only knew how damn stupid you appear to the rest of the world
>every time you open your craw you'd crawl into a sewer ans die of
>embarrasment.
If you knew how stupid you look when you delete my documents and then lay on
personal attack when you can't refute me on a factual basis only then YOU would
be embarrassed!
>ALL'mental illnesses' are listed and classified in the Diagnostic and
>Stastistical Manual of the American Psycychiatric Association
>(DSM-IV).
>
>Autism is not in DSM-IV.
>
>The NIMH lists all illness that effect the brain, i.e. neurological
>disorders.
And they listed autism as my included proof shows above!
>Once again you lose and along the way show yourself to be totally
>ignorant of another subject.
Once again we see you being deceitful and using personal attack and a smoke and
mirrors diversion.
>Is there anything you DO know?
I know that you are a loser and you won't deal in facts!
Need I say more?
GassenBurnham
>Date: 12/22/01 1:31 PM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <20011221223134...@mb-co.aol.com>
>
> try and quell the urge to
>join in a gutless attack on a woman.
>
>Jason James
>
Are you suggesting that Sara should be discriminated against, along gender
lines, Jason?
Your post indicates that you feel she is weak and unable to defend herself.
Take note fool... she has bigger balls and does a better job than you will ever
be capable of.
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> >From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
> >Date: 12/22/01 1:31 PM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <20011221223134...@mb-co.aol.com>
> >
>
> > try and quell the urge to
> >join in a gutless attack on a woman.
> >
> >Jason James
> >
>
> Are you suggesting that Sara should be discriminated against, along gender
> lines, Jason?
>
> Your post indicates that you feel she is weak and unable to defend
herself.
>
> Take note fool... she has bigger balls and does a better job than you will
ever
> be capable of.
I agree, The only positive thing one can say about Sara is she kick Jason's
ass with both hands tied behind her back.
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
>
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 1:45 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011221214540...@mb-fe.aol.com>
No prob, read down:
>Subject: Re: Andy's Feng Shui
>From: nic...@aol.com (Nicegoy)
>Date: 09/07/01 4:53 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20010709025338...@ng-ms1.aol.com>
Subject: Re: Andy's Feng Shui
>>From: Gord McFee gord....@sympatico.ca
>>Date: 7/9/01 11:11 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <3B4904A5...@sympatico.ca>
>
>
>Nicegoy wrote:
>>
>> I invite you to take a look at Andy's work station and we will do a Feng
Shui
>> analysis of his position at Villanova.
>>
>> http://www51.homepage.villanova.edu/andrew.mathis/mathis.jpg
>>
>> I invite you to take note of the 'voluminous' amount of paperwork on Andy's
>> desk and his overflowing in/out tray as well as the plethora of pens and
>> pencils, all a fair indication of the importance of Andy's position at
>> Villanova.
>
>Fascinates you to see someone who actually works for a living, eh Ross?
>
>--
>Gord McFee
>[gord....@sympatico.ca]
>
>
ROTFLMAO..... Of course what Andy is doing in the picture is exactly what you,
a Public Servant would call working isn't it Gourd.
Sitting on your well reamed liberal ass staring cross eyed into a camera!
Gourd, you have no idea what I do for a living, nor do I intend to be as stupid
as you have been and tell you.
**I am proud to say I got more dirt under my fingernails today than you would
in
a lifetime,** and when I enjoy a few coldies in about an hour or so, my hand
will
not shake like yours should, because I know I have earned them and not extorted
them from the taxpayer.
Now get your hand out from under your sporan and go back to sleep.
---------------------------- end quote-------------------------------
>
>Now here is a demonstration of how to use ridicule effectively, youngster:
>
>From: Jason James </groups?hl=en&q=author:tourer%40optusnet.com.au+>
>(tou...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:tourer%40optusnet.com.au>) Subject: Re:
>"Behind
>Communism," by Frank L. Britton. Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
></groups?hl=en&group=alt.revisionism>
>View: Complete Thread (10 articles)
></groups?hl=en&threadm=3aaf3e65%240%2425523%247f31c96c%40news01.syd.optusn
>et.com.au&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26rnum%3D2%26selm%3D3aaf3e65%25240
>%252425523%25247f31c96c%2540news01.syd.optusnet.com.au> | Original Format
></groups?selm=3aaf3e65%240%2425523%247f31c96c%40news01.syd.optusnet.com.au
>&output=gplain>
>Date: 2001-03-14 01:56:08 PST
>
>> *Its a fallacy to assert a group of people find persecution a central
>>tenet of their religion. One person comes to mind though : Sado Masoch and
>>followers. Some dickhead who enjoyed punishment.
>
>>--
>>Jason James
>
>I hold several other instances of your absurd ignorance in reserve for
>further
>ridicule at a later date.
Well whoopy fuckin' dooo
Jason James
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 11:30 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011222073016...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
>>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>>Date: 12/22/01 1:31 PM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <20011221223134...@mb-co.aol.com>
>>
>
>> try and quell the urge to
>>join in a gutless attack on a woman.
>>
>>Jason James
>>
>
>Are you suggesting that Sara should be discriminated against, along gender
>lines, Jason?
>
>Your post indicates that you feel she is weak and unable to defend herself.
>
>Take note fool... she has bigger balls and does a better job than you will
>ever
>be capable of.
Even your praise of a woman includes an insult: balls. I just find it sickening
that a group of 'men' would gang up on a woman and her kids to attack her. I'll
let observers be the final judge.
Jason James
Vellicet
>Date: 22/12/01 2:02 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20011221220247...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>>Date: 12/22/01 6:24 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <20011221152450...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>>
>>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>>From: KCOM KC...@Bastard.com
>>>Date: 22/12/01 6:29 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: <ea372ukpa697e2ieh...@4ax.com>
>>>
>>>On 21 Dec 2001 18:23:07 GMT, gassen...@aol.comnospam
>>>(GassenBurnham) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>>>>From: Nizkor's Nemesis
>>>>>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail
>>>>>Date: 12/22/01 12:21 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>>>>Message-id: <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
>>>>
>>>>>You just have a good heart- right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And suitable for transplant into a human, if current research is
>>successful.
>>>
>>>
>>>Translation "<smooch> Can I kiss it again Mr. Bradbury?"
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>> Yep,...an ass-kisser is our Ross.
>>
>>
>>Jason James
>
>LOL.... and you are doing what for Kcom, here?????
>
>Ignorant, uneducated, fool.
Untill your recent tiff with Valdo, you were so far up his ass only your boots
were hanging out. Have you made up yet? He can start writing your lines again.
Jason James
Vellicet
>From: gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham)
>Message-id: <20011221220350...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>
>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>>Date: 12/22/01 6:22 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>Message-id: <20011221152235...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>>
>>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>>From: gassen...@aol.comnospam (GassenBurnham)
>>>Date: 22/12/01 5:23 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: <20011221132307...@mb-cp.aol.com>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
>>>>From: Nizkor's Nemesis
>>>>t-a-v-i-...@i--x.n-e--t-c--o-m.c--o-mRemoveHyphensToMail
>>>>Date: 12/22/01 12:21 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>>>>Message-id: <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
>>>
>>>>You just have a good heart- right?
>>>>
>>>
>>>And suitable for transplant into a human, if current research is
>successful.
>>
>> How come you go to the Vet when you're sick?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jason James
>
>Huh????
Straight over it's head,...swoosh
Jason James
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <7xQU7.8497$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:26 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Faggot
How unimaginably lame.
> Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:6k172u8e6jna9jq7e...@4ax.com...
> > In <foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > alt.revisionism, on Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:09:29 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> > Okay. Produce the evidence.
> > > there is persistent denial by
> > > American society of the causes of damage to millions of
> > > children who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a
> > > consequence of cruel treatment by parents like Sara who are
> > > otherwise too busy to love and care for their babies. It
> > > provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
> > > erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as
> > > autism.
> > What erratic behavior?
> > Do you think anyone believes anything you say?
> Why did you request evidence?
Because it wouldn't be what you say. It would be the evidence.
So good of you to make it clear that you don't actually have any
evidence, though.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Jeffrey G. Brown
his anti-Semitic allegations has been well documented many times in the
past. The relevant evidence is summarized below:
(1) The 'Herman Hedtoft' forgeries
On 13 April 1997 a post allegedly from grea...@mindspring.com ('Herman
Hedtoft') appeared, containing the following statement:
> I'm a gay male and I belong to MABLA (Man-Boy Love Association).
Examination of the full headers of the post conclusively demonstrated that
it originated at 129.37.181.154, which is a dial-in port for ibm.net. This
established that it was not posted by grea...@mindspring.com, and was
pointed out almost immediately after the post appeared. Nonetheless,
Bradbury persisted in citing it for months afterward as though it were
authentic.
Interestingly enough, less than a month later another post allegedly from
"Herman H. Hedtoft" appeared. This post, filled with the same endlessly
reposted text common in Bradbury's diatribes, actually originated at
Phoenix.net, Bradbury's own ISP. The relevant headers follow:
Path: szdc2!szdc!zdc!super.zippo.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!
cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: "Herman H. Hedtoft" <Quay...@primenet.net>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.politics.white-power,soc.culture.german,
soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: China's Communism Sprang From Documented!
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 18:23:14 -0500
Organization: The Hedtoft Family of Bedlam
Message-ID: <336A77...@primenet.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial7.bellville.phoenix.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I)
Scott Bradbury has proclaimed loudly and often his dedication to the
search for "Truth". Why is it, then, that he is so often found to have
lied about who he is and what others have said?
(2) The 'Jeffrey G. Brown' forgeries
Two posts appeared on 6 June and 8 June 1997 purporting to be admissions
of child molestation by myself. The first is an amazingly inept forgery;
its complete text is shown below:
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Clearly the author simply hit the 'Reply' button on his newsreader, edited
out everything above my signature block, and inserted the single line of
text. No attempt was made to change the header, which clearly showed the
author's name and his ISP:
Path: szdc2!super.zippo.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!europa.clark.net!
news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!
news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!
gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: Jim Dyer <jd...@vidnet.net>
Newsgroups: triangle.politics,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Strom Lies
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 08:27:01 -0500
Organization: Dyer's Laundry Services
Message-ID: <339810...@vidnet.net>
Reply-To: jd...@vidnet.net
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial2.vidnet.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I)
The second forgery two days later was a bit more polished, though not by
much; its headers also clearly betrayed its origins:
Path: szdc2!super.zippo.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!
not-for-mail
From: "Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeff_...@bigfoot.com>
Newsgroups: triangle.politics,alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,
alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Strom Lies
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 07:46:03 -0500
Organization: None
Message-ID: <339AA9...@bigfoot.com>
Reply-To: jeff_...@bigfoot.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial1.vidnet.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I)
Shortly after these posts appeared, I pointed out the discrepancies which
revealed them as forgeries:
Here's some additional "documented and informative material": First,
both forgeries bear an offset in the timestamp of -0500 (mine are
marked -0400)... that, of course, is the correct offset for Central
Time, and matches nicely with Bradbury's location in Texas. Second,
whereas my posts are marked as being generated with NewsWatcher 2.4.0,
the forgeries that Bradbury has been reposting were created with
Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) -- just like Bradbury's own posts.
I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for posting
the original forgeries. My own belief is that an individual using the
ID "Jim Dyer" created and posted the forgeries. Whether this is
Bradbury under another ID, or merely a friend of his, cannot be
determined. Bradbury almost certainly knows that they are forgeries,
however, and his continued use of them is most enlightening.
I do await, with great interest, Bradbury's explanation of just how
his continued use of known forgeries can be reconciled with his
posturing as a "truth teller". The answer to that question should
prove most amusing -- should Bradbury ever find the courage to address
it.
Bradbury still uses these in his ceaseless smear campaign -- and we still
wait for him to explain why a "truth teller" uses forgeries to tell his
"truth".
(3) The 'Mark Rosenblatt' forgeries
In July and November of 1997, an individual claiming to be 'Mark
Rosenblatt' of the 'Human Rights Council of Galveston County - Texas' (an
organization of which no trace has ever been found) posted images to
Usenet which purported to be "photographic proof of the torture of
Palestinian detainees". The images were all typical of those found in the
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* hierarchy, and no documentary evidence
that the individual depicted were in fact "Palestinian detainees" has ever
been offered. Oddly enough, each post originated from Bradbury's own ISP,
Phoenix.net, as shown below (note also the strange inconsistencies in
'Rosenblatt's" user ID):
Path: plnews!super.zippo.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!
news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!
gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.intcomm.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:25:33 GMT
Message-ID: <33c6740c...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial6.cc.intcomm.net
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Path: plnews!super.zippo.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.tgn.com (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:22:01 GMT
Message-ID: <33c695d8...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial19.tgn.net
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Path: plnews!super.zippo.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!infeed1.internetmci.com!
newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!
news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!
news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!
Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.tgn.com (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #1 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc1.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:58:00 GMT
Message-ID: <33c6ba65...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial19.tgn.net
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Path: plnews!super.zippo.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!
cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!
news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!
Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.tgn.com (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #2 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc2.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:30:16 GMT
Message-ID: <33c6730f...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial21.tgn.net
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Path: plnews!super.zippo.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!
cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!
news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!
Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.tgn.com (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: #3 Israeli Torture of Palestinian Women - hrc3.jpg (1/1)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:33:25 GMT
Message-ID: <33c67425...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial21.tgn.net
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Path: szdc!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!
news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!
gryphon.phoenix.net!uhura1.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 1st Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - hannukah.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 01:50:47 GMT
Message-ID: <346e4ff8...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial14.galv.phoenix.net
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Path: szdc!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!
news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!
news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!
gryphon.phoenix.net!uhura1.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 4th Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - shut_up.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:16:32 GMT
Message-ID: <346e500a...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial14.galv.phoenix.net
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Path: szdc!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!
news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!
uhura1.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 2nd Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - 4bagel.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:01:13 GMT
Message-ID: <346e4ffe...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial14.galv.phoenix.net
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news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!
uhura1.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 5th Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - caged.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:19:38 GMT
Message-ID: <346e5010...@news.phoenix.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial14.galv.phoenix.net
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Path: szdc!super.zippo.com!lotsanews.com!enews.sgi.com!news.idt.net!
news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!
news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!
news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.43.3.4!gryphon.phoenix.net!
uhura1.phoenix.net!not-for-mail
From: mro...@hrc.galv.phoenix.net (Mark Rosenblatt)
Subject: 3rd Reply to Torture (was Re: Israeli Terror Calendar -
November 11) - pressure.gif (1/1)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:07:48 GMT
Message-ID: <346e5004...@news.phoenix.net>
References: <346D2A4A...@drillgum.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial14.galv.phoenix.net
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The headers shown above all support the theory that Scott Bradbury was
responsible for posting the 'Rosenblatt' forgeries. It was Richard
Schultz, however, who provided the final bit of evidence. Even Bradbury's
fellow bigots were forced to admit that he was, in fact, the guilty party.
I had noticed that all of this "Israeli Torture" material was somehow
being crossposted to the (non-existent) group "soc.culture.israeli"
(the correct name is soc.culture.israel). Now, if you go to Deja News
and do a search on those articles in alt.revisionism in which
"soc.culture.israeli" appears, you will get 261 hits. Of those, the
majority are followups to other articles, ones in which presumably the
header was kept unchanged from previous posts in the thread. If,
however, you look for those posts that are *not* followups and *were*
crossposted to "soc.culture.israeli," you will find that they come
from two, and only two, sources: "Doc Tavish" and "Mark Rosenblatt."
I would dearly love to see Jerry Abbott's explanation of this one that
is more straightforward than the obvious conclusion that "Doc Tavish"
and "Mark Rosenblatt" (both of whom post from phoenix.net) are the
same person.
-- From: sch...@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard Schultz)
-- Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power
-- Subject: The Smoking Gun (was Re: The 'Israeli Torture'
Forgeries)
-- Date: 6 Aug 1997 08:48:16 GMT
-- Message-ID: <5s9dog$j5m$2...@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il>
Once again, we are moved to ponder the 'Bradbury paradox': how is it that
Scott Bradbury so often chooses to employ forgeries and lies in his
self-proclaimed quest for "truth"?
(4) Forged quotes
Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie has been trying hard to distract us from the fact
that he was caught forging a quote from me recently.
In <http://x46.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=523582593>, I wrote:
Nope. It's simple scientific fact.
However, in <http://x39.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=523832603>, Poor Ol' Gutless
Scottie posted the following fictional quote, which he attributed to me:
> >On 10-Sep-1999, jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It's simple scientific fact I like to butt fuck little boys right in
> >> the keister.
> >>
> >> JGB
Now, we all know that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's primary tactics are (1)
lies and (2) libel -- not necessarily in that order. This is just one more
piece of evidence to add to the pile. I'm going to right on shoving this
proof of his dishonesty in his face.
(5) Forged Email
In article <1999091723400...@nym.alias.net>, Poor Ol' Gutless
Scottie "beat you to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (sonn...@flash.net) wrote:
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>Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:42:08 -0400
>From: jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
>To: doc_t...@bigfoot.com, sonn...@flash.net
>Subject: Scottie Why Can't We Just Get Along?
>References: <7pff7b$7hlq$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>
<199909032140...@nym.alias.net>
>Organization: none
>X-UIDL: 1b3702aa9f0f3f76959dbcb6391bcb36
>
>Scottie let us not fight anymore. How about us meeting somewhere and having
>a drink and see what happens? It really hurts my feelings when you call me
>a cock sucker. Please don't do this anymore.
>
>
>JGB
>
>=====================================================================
>Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Oh, dear. Oh, my. Oh, gracious. Whatever has Scottie found? Has he finally
proven my 'tendencies'?
Err... no. Have a look at <http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=520846434&fmt=text>:
From: jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
Subject: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie wears out another lie
Date: 03 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <jeff_brown-03...@10.0.0.2>
References: <7pff7b$7hlq$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>
<199909032140...@nym.alias.net>
Organization: none
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power, alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.revisionism
In article <199909032140...@nym.alias.net>, Poor Ol' Gutless
Scottie "beat you to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (sonn...@flash.net) wrote:
>I was Forwarded that list and I see that you have a favorite little boy.
No one had to forward the "list" to you, Cockroach Boy. It was posted
right here. And you are terrified to cite the article that actually
contains the "list", because you know it'll prove you to be a liar --
again.
>Jeffrey (no names mentioned to protect the innocent victims)...
No names mentioned because there aren't any. Try a new lie, O Gutless One
-- this one's all worn out.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
This message was also emailed to Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie. What he's done,
obviously, is take the headers from the emailed copy of this message and
forged his own text in the message body.
How do we know this? Have a look at the line labelled "References:" in the
headers of the message that Scottie claims I sent. It's in there because
the actual message was part of a Usenet thread, a copy of that Usenet
message was forwarded to Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie. It is not in email
messages sent directly from one person to another. The "References:" line
is identical in both the actual message and Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's
forgery.
Long-time denizens of this newsgroup will recall that Poor Ol' Gutless
Scottie has no grasp of the proper use of commas. I, on the other hand,
do. Have a look at the subject line and the first sentence in Poor Ol'
Gutless Scottie's forgery.
What's really funny about this is that The Gutless One started his smear
campaign against me because I had the audacity to point out that he is a
liar. And how does he choose to deal with this charge? By lying some more.
JGB
=====================================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeffre...@mailandnews.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
<jeffreygbrown-52D...@news.alt.net> "Jeffrey G. Brown"
<jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>Scott Bradbury's use of known forgeries to smear his opponents and bolster
>his anti-Semitic allegations has been well documented many times in the
>past.
You mean you've spammed your unsubstantiated allegations numerous times!
>The relevant evidence is summarized below:
Unsupported allegations is not "evidence" in anyone's court Jeffrey. You should
know that!
Your spam has already been answered numerous times but you knowing that I am
making your pals look like fools you trot it out in order to try to discredit me
and I always have this standard form of reply to YOUR unsubstantiated
accusations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=vacqetkbpsvdjnfe7du861f10qej9h0hij%404ax.com
From: _Dok Tavische------ <_dok_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM-------->
Subject: In Answer to JGB's Continued False Accusations and Endless Personal
Attacks
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:43:41 GMT
Message-ID: <vacqetkbpsvdjnfe7...@4ax.com>
[...]
>Scott Bradbury's use of known forgeries to smear his opponents and bolster
>his anti-Semitic allegations has been well documented many times in the
>past. The relevant evidence is summarized below:
[...deletia...]
>(2) The 'Jeffrey G. Brown' forgeries
>
>Two posts appeared on 6 June and 8 June 1997 purporting to be admissions
>of child molestation by myself. The first is an amazingly inept forgery;
>its complete text is shown below:
>
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
>
> I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
You've always been a braggart haven't you Brown!?
What do the NNTP posting hosts show? vidnet.net
Where is vidnet.net?
Texarkana, Texas!
LOOK!
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Who Is Enter: vidnet.net
Server used for this query: [ whois.networksolutions.com ]
Registrant:
Vidcomnet, Inc. (VIDNET2-DOM)
4207 Texas Blvd.
Texarkana, TX 75501-3580
Domain Name: VIDNET.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Allen, Morris (MA2294) mal...@VIDNET.NET
VIDComnet Inc.
4207 Texas Blvd
Texarkana, TX 75503
9037926277
Billing Contact:
Maxwell, Martha (MM14590) vid...@VIDNET.NET
VidcomNet, Inc.
4207 Texas Blvd.
Texarkana,, TX 75503
903-792-6277 (FAX) 903-793-2120
Record last updated on 20-Oct-2000.
Record expires on 31-Oct-2001.
Record created on 30-Oct-1995.
Database last updated on 9-Jan-2001 23:12:03 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
VIRTUAL.VIDNET.NET 208.145.114.14
NS3.CW.NET 204.70.25.234
~~END~~
Is Jeffrey G. Brown now going to claim that I had an account with an out
of town ISP miles away from me!?
>Shortly after these posts appeared, I pointed out the discrepancies which
>revealed them as forgeries:
>
> Here's some additional "documented and informative material": First,
> both forgeries bear an offset in the timestamp of -0500 (mine are
> marked -0400)... that, of course, is the correct offset for Central
> Time, and matches nicely with Bradbury's location in Texas.
So what? Texarkana is also in the same time zone as me too BUT that
doesn't mean I posted from an ISP in Texarkana!
> Second, whereas my posts are marked as being generated with NewsWatcher 2.4.0,
> the forgeries that Bradbury has been reposting were created with
> Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) -- just like Bradbury's own posts.
All software very popular at that time! Some detective work Jeffrey!
ROTFLMAO!
> I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for posting
> the original forgeries.
OOOPS! CASE CLOSED FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME! What sort of case has any merit
when the "prosecutor" comes right out and says: "I can't really say that
Bradbury is himself responsible for posting the original forgeries."?
Here is another person who has commented on your pee-pee nibbling and I
guess you will say I'm Joel Leibovitz!
From: leibo...@hotmail.com (Joel Leibovitz)
Subject: NAMBLA ADVOCATE OUTS HIMSELF?
Date: 18 Sep 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <3420ea09...@news.mathbox.com>
Organization: Science Fiction Writer
Reply-To: leibo...@hotmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.politics.homosexuality
From:
jeff_...@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
Subject:
Re: Strom Lies
Date:
Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:15:32 -0400
Organization:
None
Message-ID:
<jeff_brown-ya024080...@news.zippo.com>
References:
<1.5.4.16.1997052...@earthlink.net>
<3391CC...@earthlink.net>
<3394A3...@bcpl.lib.md.us>
<339502...@earthlink.net> <339691...@ix.netcom.com>
<339757...@earthlink.net>
X-Newsreader:
Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0
Newsgroups:
triangle.politics, alt.politics.white-power, alt.revisionism,
alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.politics.correct
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9
NSWPP wrote:
>
> >
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
> >
> > >
> > > JGB
> > >
> > > ================================================
> > > Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> > > "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
>
> Dear Mr. Brown,
>
> I thought the Church of the Creator was defunct?
>
> -WS
Harry, I love to nibble young boys pee pees also.
JGB
================================================
Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
~~~~End of Exact DejaCom Archive~~~~
Joel Leibovitz posted from NEWS.MATHBOX.COM which shows using:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Who Is Enter: NEWS.MATHBOX.COM
Registrant:
Mathbox Inc (MATHBOX-DOM)
7 Constance Avenue
Methuen, MA 01844-2803
US
Domain Name: MATHBOX.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Thomas, Michael (MT409) mi...@MATHBOX.COM
Mathbox, Inc.
7 Constance Ave
Methuen, MA 01844
978-683-6718 (FAX) 978-683-0602
Record last updated on 19-Oct-2000.
Record expires on 25-Oct-2001.
Record created on 24-Oct-1995.
Database last updated on 9-Jan-2001 23:12:03 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS01.MATHBOX.NET 209.21.220.8
DNS02.MATHBOX.NET 209.21.220.6
~~END~~
I guess Jeffrey will also say I posted as Joel Leibovitz and that I have
or had an ISP in Methuen, MA as well!
BTW Jeffrey you, of course, know who my ISP was at the time those posts
were made. Phoenix.Net!
What does the WHO IS show for Phoenix.Net?
Registrant:
Phoenix DataNet, Inc (PHOENIX2-DOM)
17100 El Camino Real
Houston, TX 77058
USA
Domain Name: PHOENIX.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Hostmaster (HOS430-ORG) hostm...@POINTECOM.NET
Pointe Communications Corporation
17100 El Camino Real
Houston, TX 77058
US
281.486.8337 Fax- 281.486.7674
<END>
Jeffrey is just miffed because various people caught him bragging about
his sexual escapades. You should be ashamed of yourself Jeffrey! If you
can't or won't try women at least go for males of legal age you penis
nibbler you- rather than ruin a youngster for life!
Oh yes while on the subject of your spam:
How many more times are you going to post this weak attempt to discredit
me Jeffrey?
I just made this reply to you and not even a month ago:
Subject: Jeffrey G. Brown Can Only Make Innuendo and Smear - He Can't
Refute What I Post! aka Re: Some Facts About Scott Bradbury
Date: 12/23/2000
Author: Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@my-deja.com>
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 09:46:50 -0500, jg? w...@my-deja.com wrote:
>Scott Bradbury's use of known forgeries to smear his opponents and bolster
>his anti-Semitic allegations has been well documented many times in the
>past. The relevant evidence is summarized below:
How many times has Jeffrey G. Brown spammed this same message in a vain
attempt to discredit me? He does this almost every time I post a series of
new articles! I will show what DejaCom approximates this same spam of
Jeffrey's with:
Using DejaCom's Power Search <http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml>
Enter as KEYWORDS: Scott Bradbury's forgeries Herman Hedtoft smear
Jeffrey G. Brown
<<Note April 30, 2001: The link above is no longer valid. Use:
<http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> instead>>
Results for: "Scott Bradbury's forgeries Herman Hedtoft smear Jeffrey G.
Brown"
Date Subject Forum Author
12/23/2000 Some Facts About Scott Bradb alt.revisionism jg?
12/20/2000 Re: Lying and Forgery are Br alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
12/22/2000 Re: Maxims of Debate and How alt.revisionism j.g.. r
12/05/2000 The Bradury Paradox alt.politics.white-po Jeffrey G. Brow
10/19/2000 The Bradbury Paradox alt.politics.white-po Jeffrey G. Brow
07/22/2000 Scott Bradbury's history of alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
07/22/2000 Re: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
07/01/2000 Re: Doc Tavish alt.politics.white-po Jeffrey G. Brow
06/30/2000 Re: Happy Independence Day T alt.politics.national Jeffrey G.
05/25/2000 Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie sho alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
05/25/2000 Re: Poor Edeiken, what happe alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
05/14/2000 Re: Abusive E-mail From Kook alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
05/12/2000 Re: Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie alt.politics.national Jeffrey G.
05/11/2000 Re: Profile of a Documented alt.politics.national Jeffrey G.
05/10/2000 Re: Profile of a Documented alt.politics.national Jeffrey G.
07/22/2000 Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie wan alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
08/19/2000 Re: Reposting of Scottie's f alt.revisionism jg ?own
08/13/2000 Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie and triangle.politics jg b ?eja.c
05/28/2000 Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's B alt.revisionism Jeffrey G. Brow
04/01/2000 The Bradbury paradox alt.politics.white-po Jeffrey G. Brow
>(1) The 'Herman Hedtoft' forgeries
Jeffrey you only bring shame upon yourself!
Doc Tavish
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Need I say more other than Jeffrey presented no facts and unsubstantiated
allegations are NOT facts-- plain and simple!
--
"For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries
will be able to withstand or contradict." Son of Man {Luke 21:15 RSV}
Joe Bruno
> From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
> Subject: Re: Autism is Mental Illness and Sara Salzman Backs Herself Into a
> Corner (As Usual)! aka Re: Why is Scott Bradbury so Ignorant?
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:32:46 GMT
> Message-ID: <3c25e17b....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
> References: <foFU7.8440$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net>
> <2LFU7.92183$Sx.24...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>
> <catamont-7BEF60...@news.concentric.net>
> <23h62u0fh95lngr5a...@4ax.com>
> <catamont-C91B5D...@news.concentric.net>
> <oog72uk34p51e2rka...@4ax.com>
>
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 01:32:46 GMT, <3c25e17b....@news.abccom.bc.ca>
>>Wrong, Tavish! Your opposition does alot more than make personal
attacks, but you lie about it.
Why haven't you answered my question? You said Jews have a tyranny
that silences their critics. I asked you why this so-called "tyranny"
hasn't silenced you or Phillips or Waldo or Dr Pierce or David Duke or
Knoll or The Aryan Nations or the KKK or the WCOTC or Tom Moran or
Ross Cummins or Radio Islam or Joseph Smirnov or Alex Vange.
Answer the question, you lying sack of shit.
Joe Bruno
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
<t-a--v-i...@i-x.n-e-t-co--m.co--mRemoveHyphens2Mail> wrote:
>Subject: Re: Forgery Instead of 'Truth Telling' - The M.O. of Poor Ol'
>Gutless Scottie Bradbury
Strange that Jeffrey G. Brown still refers to me as "Gutless" especially after I
was litigated by one of his pals and I won- also I've endured death threats
postings, telephone calls, and web pages giving out my address etc. with the
invitation I be visited with baseball bats! Also I've endured forge cancels,
numerous e-mail bombings, posts flooded in my identity among other criminal acts
his allies have waged against me YET he still refers to me as GUTLESS!
I fought a malicious prosecution waged against me in which two people perjured
and/or manufactured evidence against me. Jeffrey accuses me of forging below YET
he finally admits: "I can't really say that Bradbury is himself responsible for
posting the original forgeries." I on the other hand can and will prove that
Yale F. Edeiken forged a communication and made a sworn statement to a civil
court that I had sent it to him! He took an anonymous posting and added a faked
digital signature with my nym attached to it! I will show all evidence below to
prove that Yale F. Edeiken Esq. Attorney of Allentown, Pennsylvania did, in
fact, perjure himself in his malicious prosecution against me. I have tried
numerous times to get James B. Martin District Attorney, Lehigh County,
Allentown, Pennsylvania to pursue the matter among the other perjury but he is
not interested. It appears that Lehigh County has some corruption and will allow
an attorney to get away with criminal perjury and manufacturing of evidence of
which I have numerous charges against Yale F. Edeiken. I will show all below.
>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:30:28 -0600
>Organization: Tavish is ADL's Nemesis (Non-Profit)
>Message-ID: <a5n92u4qhv3ld57ih...@4ax.com>
>References: <jeffreygbrown-52D...@news.alt.net>
Why won't Jeffrey or any of his pals comment on criminal perjury or
manufacturing of evidence?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=9&selm=cjsojts1647ukls7aci5eunccjick0du18%404ax.com
Subject: A Second Simple Test Which The Appellate Judges Will Get To Take (This
is a Trial Run - This Test May Be Modified) Forging Digital Signatures
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:27:05 -0500
Message-ID: <cjsojts1647ukls7a...@4ax.com>
Your Honors,
I respectfully ask does the following documented evidence indicate or
prove that Yale F. Edeiken Esq. manufactured or fabricated evidence in his
complaint submitted as sworn testimony in a Lehigh County Civil Court?
Courtesy of Ken McVay, director of Nizkor, and from Nizkor web site:
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
Date: 2001-02-14 21:02:03 PST
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF LEHIGH COUNTY
CIVIL DIVISION -- LAW
YALE F. EDEIKEN :
:
Plaintiff :
:
vs. : No. 99-C- 2786
:
SCOTT BRADBURY a/k/a :
"DOC TAVISH" a/k/a :
"doc_t...@bigfoot.com" a/k/a
"sonnyboy@ flash.net"
39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!"
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd
Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."
Respectfully submitted,
________________________
Yale F. Edeiken
c/o Trainor Law Offices (Paul E. Trainor)
1720 Fairmont Street
Allentown PA 18104
Phone: (610) 434-7004
Fax: (610) 434-6978
<end>
Notice what was said in an anonymous post (shown just below) and the date of the
post and compare it to what Yale F. Edeiken charges just above! Remember Yale
claimed I e-mailed the above to him and he claimed I signed it and had my
digital signature and this was done in a sworn document admitted to a civil
court of law!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&ic=1&selm=199902171515.KAA08970%40domains.invweb.net
From: Anonymous <nob...@openpgp.net>
Subject: Re: Joe Bellinger, Proven Liar
Date: 1999/02/17
Message-ID: <1999021715...@domains.invweb.net>#1/1
References: <19990215233509...@ng147.aol.com> <36ca2...@news3.ent
Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was
remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems
or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at <postm...@openpgp.net>.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
> > >>It is thus established that:
> > >>
> > >> - Joe Bellinger stated that he does, in fact, "post deliberate
> > >>misinformation".
> > >> - Joe Bellinger denied having made said statement.
> > >> - Joe Bellinger is, therefore, a liar.
> > >>
> > >>To coin a phrase: GAME, SET, MATCH.
:
> > >Did anyone expect any different result?
:
> > LOL! For grown men, you are all so childish.
:
> Expecting some minimal level of honesty -- a low standard which
> you seem incapable of meeting -- is hardly "childish."
>
> It frightens me that, with attitudes like this, you are raising a
> child.
>
> In article <19990112213243...@ng31.aol.com>,
> deb...@aol.com
> (Debunks) wrote: "I post deliberate misinformation . . ."
>
> --YFE
You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!
~~End of GOOGLE aka DejaCom Archive~~
Notice the above was an anonymous post. It was not an e-mail and notice that it
had no digital signature signed by me! Also notice the big difference in dates
the above was posted February 17, 1999 yet Yale accuses me: "That on November
11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an electronic communication stating in
pertinent part (the above EXACT quoted text)"
Witness this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=6&ic=1&selm=osjdbt41kq8ov7moqagjivihjnda67vadt%404ax.com
"Perjury and Manufacturing of Evidence - Very Serious Criminal Acts"
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:07:41 -0600
Organization: Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG Smears Private Citizens
Message-ID: <osjdbt41kq8ov7moq...@4ax.com>
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.conspiracy
Subject: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:00:19 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <96fnp3$2bar$1...@news.tht.net>
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
<start>
39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!"
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd
Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."
<stop>
Crypto Kong does not insert blank lines in between "Authentic Doc Tavish"
and the crypto-text as confirmed by the software's author to both myself
and my attorney!
Here is the official reply to my inquiry:
X-Sender: jam...@shell11.ba.best.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:51:20 -0800
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
From: "James A. Donald"
Subject: Re: Inquiry on Crypto-Kong Signatures
Cc: "Daylin B. Leach - Attorney at Law" <xxx...@aol.com>
--
At 0412 AM 2/23/2001 -0600, Scott Bradbury wrote
> The above forged digital signataure is verbatim and is exactly which was
> presented to the court.
To be presented to the court, it must be alleged to have signed
something. A digital signature without the text that it signed is of no
significance.
(Note: I did not include Yale's fabricated e-mail- I just sent Mr. Donald
the forged digital signature.)
> The digsig also has a blank line in between "Authentic Doc
> Tavish" and the bogus crypto-text. Your software does not do this in
> ANY example I've ever seen.
That is perfectly true. My program does not emit such blank lines, which
suggest fabrication, but not strong evidence of anything much, since the
blank line could have arisen from various accidents in transferring text
from one program to another.
> I do this for the benefit of my attorney. -)
--digsig
James A. Donald
6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
GnwV4rmsIA8faEZwt0YOXUiSSJflZjiLd/kTrWIn
4F1jg73LTqhfLPw9BVz2uDGwa7v2WYBG0wNGHSkoM
<END>
--
As for Mr. Donald's statement: "the blank line could have arisen from
various accidents in transferring text from one program to another"-
the above fabricated signature from Edeiken's complaint is verbatim in the
group of false accusations known as "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE
DEEMED ADMITTED." Notice Mr. Donald's digsig? No spaces and blank lines!
Notice my digsig made on this paragraph alone?
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
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What are the penalties for submitting manufactured evidence?
[...]
Subject: Edeiken's "Butt Buddy" Trend -- Have You All Noticed? aka Re:
Blakley Tells truth again, edeiken squirms with legalistic answer
Date: 08/31/2000
Author: Doktor Tavische <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com>
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Blakley Tells truth again, edeiken squirms with legalistic
Message-ID: <1vmr5.2064$dD4.1...@monger.newsread.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 05:59:25 GMT
>Criminal Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> wrote in message
>news:1vmr5.2064$dD4.1...@monger.newsread.com...
>>
>> P.W. Blakely <pwbla...@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> news:39ad...@post.usenet.com...
>> > **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com ****
>> >
>> > Your refusal to prove the entire verdict was thrown out in appeals court
>> > is noted.
>> >
>> > The fact you can not document Bradbury forgering your identity is noted.
:
>> What makes you think I cannot?
>>
>> Unlike you and your butt-buddy Bradeshit I will present my case in the
>> court-room.
That's the second time in a week that Edeiken has used the term "butt
buddy". He is on record using the term "butt buddy" as shown in this
recent post:
Subject: Re: A MESSAGE FOR YALE EDEIKEN
Date: 08/28/2000
Author: Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net>
".. Ask you butt0buddy. He has been served with a copy
of it. --YFE"
I looked at the above for a bit and I thought there was something familiar
about it! I realized that Yale had used a term that I have never used BUT
he has!
Guess what? Tubby accused me of sending him threatening e-mail as detailed
below and guess what term was used. Can anyone show a post where I called
another person a "butt buddy"? What are the penalties for presenting
false, perjured, or manufactured evidence?
Here is Tubby making his false accusation and notice "butt buddy" is used:
On Tue, 16 May 2000 04:12:22 GMT, "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
<GU3U4.3347$v%5.24...@newshog.newsread.com> wrote:
>Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:3920c22c....@news.flash.net...
[...]
>> > Perhaps you should ask your shrink about people who write anonumus
>> >notes to others like:
>> >
>> > " You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your
>> >butt buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and
>> >character assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly
>> >work you over with an ice pick Yale!"
:
>> The above is just exactly what you said it is Yale, "anonumus" your word!
>> Just because you are a paranoid and have a psychotic dislike of me does
>> not mean every thing you imagine comes from me.
:
> It came from you
Then why didn't you show the headers which would show so Yale?
>and was signed by you.
Then why didn't you show my signature? If I signed it and it was from me
as you claim why do you call it "anonumus"? It would not be so if were
truly from me as headers would show and it actually had my signature!
What did you say in just another post about the "e-mail" above Yale? Your
own words again: "Perhaps you should ask your shrink about people who
write anonumus notes to others like:" It's ANONYMOUS Yale! You've said so!
Subject: Re: Nradbury Goes Off the Deep End
Message-ID: <Ms1U4.3324$v%5.23...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:26:04 GMT
(Exact quote for the record)
" I think you need a good psychiatirc examination. Perhaps you should ask
your shrink about people who write anonumus notes to others like: " You
are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt buddy
Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!""
No headers and no signature.
I guess the above is fair proof that Yale likes to forge e-mail even if it
is in his word "anonumus."
>> Your failure to do the same is noted. And will be by the judge.
Shut up lard ass! Who else are you going to file a lawsuit against?
>> --YFE
Doc Tavish
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Will Jeffrey now comment on his pal, Yale F. Edeiken, taking an anonymous post
and then seven months later put my NYM to it with a faked digital signature and
then go to a civil court and submit such as sworn testimony? Care to comment
Jeffrey? Everyone I know and have asked says manufacturing evidence to frame
someone is a criminal act except for James B. Martin DA Lehigh County
Pennsylvania!
Richard Phillips
Joe Bruno wrote:
============================================
Phillips
Although you addressed your question to (I think) Tavish, I'll attempt to answer it myself.
Why hasn't the Jewish power silenced Phillips, Waldo, Pierce ... etc?
(1) In the case of David Duke, they twice mobilized their financial and media power to bring about his electoral defeats. For them, and for the moment, that
is sufficient.
(2) In the case of Pierce, they are certainly aware of him, but perhaps do not yet consider him sufficient of a threat to move against him in a serious way.
(3) In the cases of Phillips, Waldo, Knoll, etc, IF the Jewish power is aware of our existence (which it may or may not be), they have taken no action for
several reason:
(a) They don't consider us worth bothering about
(b) They probably have neither the manpower or resources to attempt to silence every newsgroup habitue who says bad things about them.
(c) It would not suit their purpose to do so, would not suit their purposes to call attention to their attacking nobodies.
=====================================
Jeffrey G. Brown
murders' Phillips <rgp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> (a) They don't consider us worth bothering about
> (b) They probably have neither the manpower or resources to attempt to
> silence every newsgroup habitue who says bad things about them.
> (c) It would not suit their purpose to do so, would not suit their purposes
> to call attention to their attacking nobodies.
(d) There's no need to silence Phillips, since it has long since discredited
itself with its constant lies, its obvious moral incompetence, and its
deliberate ignorance.
JGB
---------
Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his condolences to the
World Trade Center victims:
"As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
crashing into them at a much lower point."
-- From: "Richard G. Phillips" <rgp...@earthlink.net>
-- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
-- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
-- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C...@earthlink.net>
GassenBurnham
>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>Message-id:
>>>"I got dirt under my finger nails' I worked so hard to-day.
Hmmmm, your idea of a quote is as loose as your idea of the term Pico... and
the Origins of the term Sado Masochist (LOL!!! scuse me...I cant help myself).
Now youngster, the correct quote should have been:
> I got more dirt under my fingernails today than you would
>in
>a lifetime
Are you attempting to tell us that it is shameful to do a hard days work and to
get ones hands dirty with toil, Jason.
How admirably jewish of you to do so, it reminds me of the chapter in 'The
International Jew' by Henry Ford, where the jew penchant for 'getting' money
instead of earning it, is described....I must rake it out and send it for a
run.
Did the little harpie teach you that work is below your station Jason, or have
you been to the Synagogue.
GassenBurnham
>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>Message-id: <20011222091335...@mb-cl.aol.com>
Sara made a personal attack on my family, even after I defended her against
such attack.
That day she sowed the storm... she is now reaping the whilwind, I will not
desist... ever.
She is a shameless and sick pervert, I have only ever voiced sincere concern
for her children.
They are the victims of her perversion, people make their own karma... she has
made her bed, now she 'is strapped to it!'
Sperficially, one would assume she has to be the biggest idiot on the net....
she comes in here trying to throw stones, when she has left a mile wide trail
of stupidity all over the web, that can be thrown back in her face.
However, even an ugly, fat assed, harpie, bimbo like her could not be that lard
ass dumb.
It's gotta be part of her victim status program.
Fuck! If I had a heifer born looking like her, I would shoot it outrigh, as it
would be unlikely to have the smarts to sustain life.
GassenBurnham
>From: vell...@aol.comzapspam (Vellicet)
>Message-id: <20011222093422...@mb-cl.aol.com>
Yeah, this and the previous one about a tiff with 'valdo' or someone, is just a
little too subtle for a sophisticated guy like me, who knows the origins of the
term sado Masochist and what Pico means.
Wanna humour me?
GassenBurnham
Goofey Brown, the Rainman himself, gives a dissertation on Autism.
Goofey can recite the full Nizkor/Nambla phone book off by heart, back to
front!
Are you sure you are not Sara's long lost son.... the one abducted by Gypsies
when she was 'tied up' with those hippies, back in the 70's ?
Nicegoy
"Vellicet" <vell...@aol.comzapspam> wrote in message
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
--
In the face of mounting scientific evidence, there is persistent denial by
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
Joe Bruno
>>Let's see the proof that Duke's losses in elections were caused by
Jews. After all the bullshit you have slung here, I won't take your
word for anything. Duke lost elections in Louisiana, which has very
few Jews, so your excuse is pure bullshit.
>
> (2) In the case of Pierce, they are certainly aware of him, but perhaps do not yet consider him sufficient of a threat to move against him in a serious way.
>>That's bullshit-he broadcasts nationally. You are simply lying.
>
> (3) In the cases of Phillips, Waldo, Knoll, etc, IF the Jewish power is aware of our existence (which it may or may not be), they have taken no action for
> several reason:
>
> (a) They don't consider us worth bothering about
>>That's a crummy excuse.You can manufacture a bullshit excuse for
everyone I mention, can't you? Your long list of excuses means both
you and Tavish are just lying-they cannot silence anyone and they
don't try.
> (b) They probably have neither the manpower or resources to attempt to silence every newsgroup habitue who says bad things about them.
> (c) It would not suit their purpose to do so, would not suit their purposes to call attention to their attacking nobodies.
>
> =====================================
>>You forgot to give me a bullshit excuse for the KKK, Aryan Nations,
and World Church of the Creator. Are you running out of excuses,
Phillips? While you are at it, give me an excuse for Posse Comitatus
and the Christian Identity Movement, the Order, and Radio Islam.
The long list I gave you proves that both you and Tavish are just
plain lying about this so-called "Jewish tyranny", especially in the
case of Pierce, KKK, WCOTC, and Christian Identity, since all these
wackos cover the entire USA and some are even international. Some of
the Arab countries are now denying the Holocaust, too. What is your
bullshit excuse for them, Phillips?
Joe Bruno
Le Mod Pol
excess newsgroups trimmed
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Tavish is ADL's Nemesis wrote:
> I will show all evidence below to
> prove that Yale F. Edeiken Esq. Attorney of Allentown, Pennsylvania did, in
> fact, perjure himself in his malicious prosecution against me. I have tried
> numerous times to get James B. Martin District Attorney, Lehigh County,
> Allentown, Pennsylvania to pursue the matter among the other perjury but he is
> not interested. It appears that Lehigh County has some corruption and will allow
> an attorney to get away with criminal perjury and manufacturing of evidence of
> which I have numerous charges against Yale F. Edeiken. I will show all below.
>
What it shows is that you escaped on a technicality and
the district attorney does not believe your claims --
which appear to be the product of a lunatic
Chill out and get lost
It is possible to store the mind with a million facts
and still be entirely uneducated.
-- Alec Bourne
John Morris
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on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
Where's the evidence?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Jeffrey G. Brown
> Strange that Jeffrey G. Brown still refers to me as "Gutless" especially
> after I was litigated by one of his pals and I won- also I've endured death threats
> postings, telephone calls, and web pages giving out my address etc. with
> the invitation I be visited with baseball bats! Also I've endured forge
> cancels, numerous e-mail bombings, posts flooded in my identity among other criminal
> acts his allies have waged against me YET he still refers to me as GUTLESS!
That's because you're still "GUTLESS", lardass. You always have been, and you
always will be. I'll keep reminding you of that -- and there is nothing you can
do about it.
> I fought a malicious prosecution waged against me in which two people
> perjured and/or manufactured evidence against me.
There was no evidence presented of perjury or manufacture of evidence. The
fact-free claims of an obese psychotic is worthless.
> Jeffrey accuses me of forging
> below YET he finally admits: "I can't really say that Bradbury is himself
> responsible for posting the original forgeries."
"BOOGERMAN" Bradbury doesn't like to talk about the fact that he is responsible
for continuing to use those forgeries for purposes of smearing others, even
after the true author had been revealed.
"BOOGERMAN" Bradbury also doesn't like to talk about the forgeries that he did
compose and post -- like the email that he altered and posted as though it were
genuine, or the "Marc Rosenblatt" porn images he tried to apss of as evidence of
'Israeli atrocities'.
You're a lying sack of pigshit, Fat Boy. You're going to be reminded of that
fact as often as necessary.
> [...deletia...]
> Will Jeffrey now comment on his pal, Yale F. Edeiken, taking an anonymous post
> and then seven months later put my NYM to it with a faked digital signature
> and then go to a civil court and submit such as sworn testimony? Care to
> comment Jeffrey?
Yup.
You haven't proven a thing, Cockroach Boy. Since we know that you are a forger,
all of the evidence you've presented is quite likely forged.
Get your ass into court and present this so-called "proof". You won't, because
you are a coward and a fraud.
You're a lying sack of pigshit, Fat Boy. You're going to be reminded of that
fact as often as necessary.
Stay stupid, little insect...
JGB
=====================================================================
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
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> In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> Where's the evidence?
FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
--
In the face of mounting scientific evidence, there is persistent denial by
American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are
thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by
parents like Sara who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their
babies. It provides a social blanket for Sara, when ask about her son's
erratic behavior she merely passes her hidden faults off as autism.
Kurt Knoll
behavior I am not so sure if he ever wend to school.
Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-DF8...@news.alt.net...
Jeffrey G. Brown
<kkn...@yellowhead16.net> wrote:
> I see Jeffery Brown has found someone else he calls a liar.
I see that Kurtsie doesn't bother to actually read what is written. The evidence
that Scott Bradbury is a liar and a forger is overwhelming. And there is nearly
as much evidence that proves that Kurtsie Knoll is a liar, as well.
> But by his behavior I am not so sure if he ever wend to school.
That's a good one, coming from the imbecile who wrote this:
"This pebble are drained in analyzing writing styles."
-- From: "Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yellowhead16.net>
-- Subject: Re: Dresden and Hiroshima
-- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:30:23 -0800
-- Message-ID: <3bf80...@binaries.vphos.net>
Kurt Knoll
you.
Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-5B3...@news.alt.net...
John Morris
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In <CmnV7.8647$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:28:24 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com...
> > In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> > Where's the evidence?
> FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
Go panhandle somewhere else.
You say there is evidence. Please produce the evidence.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Jeffrey G. Brown
> This is a laugh coming from you Jeffery why should anyone trust a Jew like
> you.
(1) Why do you assume that everyone who points out your lies *must* be a Jew,
Kurtsie?
(2) Trust isn't necessary. I've posted the evidence -- something you have never
been able to do.
Nicegoy
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
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> In <CmnV7.8647$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:28:24 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > news:i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com...
>
> > > In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> > > Where's the evidence?
>
> > FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
>
> Go panhandle somewhere else.
>
> You say there is evidence. Please produce the evidence.
PAY FOR IT.
John Morris
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In <XXoV7.8651$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:16:28 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:243c2ucm075amvfmc...@4ax.com...
> > In <CmnV7.8647$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:28:24 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > > news:i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com...
> > > > In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600,
> > > > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> > > > Where's the evidence?
> > > FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
> > Go panhandle somewhere else.
> > You say there is evidence. Please produce the evidence.
> PAY FOR IT.
So, no evidence. No evidence before. No evidence now.
And get your caps key fixed. You look like an idiot.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Kurt Knoll
smell like one here.
Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown" <jeffre...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
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GassenBurnham
>Date: 12/24/01 12:08 AM E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com>
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>In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
>Where's the evidence?
>
>- --
> John Morris
It is exhibited by Sara on a daily basis.
GassenBurnham
>is Mental Illness and Sara Salzman Bac
>You said Jews have a tyranny
>> > that silences their critics. I asked you why this so-called "tyranny"
>> > hasn't silenced you or Phillips or Waldo or Dr Pierce or David Duke
ETC. ETC.
Their tyranny has silenced you, Joe.
I note you have fallen into line as a result of the abuse they heaped on you
for the last 6 months.
Perhaps the rest of the people and organisations you mention are not as weak as
you.
Nicegoy
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> In <XXoV7.8651$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:16:28 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > news:243c2ucm075amvfmc...@4ax.com...
>
> > > In <CmnV7.8647$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:28:24 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > > > news:i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com...
>
> > > > > In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600,
> > > > > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> > > > > Where's the evidence?
>
> > > > FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
>
> > > Go panhandle somewhere else.
>
> > > You say there is evidence. Please produce the evidence.
>
> > PAY FOR IT.
>
> So, no evidence. No evidence before. No evidence now.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT?
Nicegoy
"GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> >Subject: Re: Why do women blame autism for their child's behavior?
> >From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
> >Date: 12/24/01 12:08 AM E. Australia Standard Time
> >Message-id: <i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com>
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> >In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> >on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> ><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >
> >> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> >
> >Where's the evidence?
> >
> >- --
> > John Morris
>
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
>
Werner Knoll
Do it now!
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Subject: Re: To Werner Knoll, re Criminal Code of Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:56:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism, can.politics, us.politics
References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4
In article <r5qT7.6345$NC5.9...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
Patrick Keenan <pkee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Sorry for top-posting...
>
>Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your claims, you might
>want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which is what I
>clipped this from:.
>http://www.telus.net/aup.html
Mr. Knoll has no documentation whatsoever. The article has been
forwarded to Telus due to its defamatory nature, and to the RCMP with
respect to section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada.
http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.299.html
I have been advised to publish the following statements:
1. I am a heterosexual male.
2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
I ever had such an association.
--
"Irving's conclusions were completely untenable. I thought his
scholarship was sloppy and unreliable and did not meet even the
most basic requirements of honest and competent historical
research." (Richard Evans, Lying About Hitler, p.70)
End
Werner Knoll
Jeffrey G Brown is Ken McVay's stooge and fart. A Holocaust denier and a
Liar, Liar, Liar.
Jeffrey G. Brown
wrote:
> You forgot something to do!
I'm sorry, Werner. I didn't mean to leave you out.
You're a liar too, Werner.
There -- do you feel better now?
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <h9wV7.8707$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:28:27 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:8pcc2u00cum1raeo6...@4ax.com...
> > In <XXoV7.8651$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:16:28 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > > news:243c2ucm075amvfmc...@4ax.com...
> > > > In <CmnV7.8647$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:28:24 -0600,
> > > > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > > "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> > > > > news:i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com...
> > > > > > In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > > > > alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600,
> > > > > > "Nicegoy" <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> > > > > > Where's the evidence?
> > > > > FAGBOY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EVIDENCE?
> > > > Go panhandle somewhere else.
> > > > You say there is evidence. Please produce the evidence.
> > > PAY FOR IT.
> > So, no evidence. No evidence before. No evidence now.
> YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT?
Still no evidence, huh?
Why do I get the feeling you were lying about it?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <R9wV7.8708$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:28:53 -0600, "Nicegoy"
<cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20011223181100...@mb-co.aol.com...
> > >From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
> > >Message-id: <i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com>
> > >In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > ><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > >> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
> > >Where's the evidence?
> "I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh,
> Goddess, he's going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
> "But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die
> alone? Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel
> equally safe with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with."
> ---Sara Salzman
That is evidence that Sara Salzman has indulged in sado-masochistic
fantasies. Where is the evidence that autism is caused by child
abuse?
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Sara
John....@UAlberta.CA wrote:
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>
> In <R9wV7.8708$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
> on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:28:53 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> <cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > "GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> > news:20011223181100...@mb-co.aol.com...
>
> > > >From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
> > > >Message-id: <i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com>
>
> > > >In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
> > > >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
> > > ><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>
> > > >Where's the evidence?
>
> > "I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh,
> > Goddess, he's going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
>
> > "But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die
> > alone? Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel
> > equally safe with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with."
> > ---Sara Salzman
>
> That is evidence that Sara Salzman has indulged in sado-masochistic
> fantasies. Where is the evidence that autism is caused by child
> abuse?
>
There isn't any.
In fact, that "theory" ( and I use the word very lightly) was debunked
many, many years ago. But don't let facts get in the way of Donnie's
screeds.
Sara
--
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else." - Theodore Roosevelt
Roger
<John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>In <R9wV7.8708$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism,
>on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:28:53 -0600, "Nicegoy"
><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> "GassenBurnham" <gassen...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
>> news:20011223181100...@mb-co.aol.com...
>> > >From: John Morris John....@UAlberta.CA
>> > >Message-id: <i9pb2uchm2gh6ktcv...@4ax.com>
>> > >In <kNfV7.8619$Xs4.1...@feed.centurytel.net> in
>> > >alt.revisionism, on Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:50:51 -0600, "Nicegoy"
>> > ><cte6...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> > >> In the face of mounting scientific evidence,
>> > >Where's the evidence?
>> "I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh,
>> Goddess, he's going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
>>
>> "But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die
>> alone? Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel
>> equally safe with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with."
>> ---Sara Salzman
>That is evidence that Sara Salzman has indulged in sado-masochistic
>fantasies. Where is the evidence that autism is caused by child
>abuse?
Or that such behaviour between consenting adults constitutes child
abuse?
And BTW, N/MK/DE whoever you're being this week, perhaps you missed
seeing this from the "Brownsh*t caught lying" thread, so I'm reposting
it here...
<quote>
Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Brown lies.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22collateral+damage%22+author:whdaffer%40mediaone.net%3E&hl=en&scoring=d&filter=0
>
>Finds a total of 9 postings.
>
>Oops, Brown's been caught in a lie.
And in how many of these is Mr. Daffer merely quoting someone else who
has used the term?
And in how many does Mr. Daffer use the term in reference to the
deaths of Palestinian children (which was, after all, the original
claim?)
</quote>
And BTW, that search now shows 15 hits: does this make you a liar as
well?
Nicegoy
"John Fagboy Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:l1le2ucdc3tvc775p...@4ax.com...
Nicegoy
"John Molester Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:17le2ucg7d0ubnjp7...@4ax.com...
--
"I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts." ---Sara Salzman
"But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with." ---Sara Salzman
--