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SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NON-EXISTENT CHAMBERS

Many casual readers of this newsgroup ask "why all the fuss?"

Who cares if the accounts of gassings in Germany 50 years ago were not
perfectly accurate?

There is a simple answer.

After the war, Germans were put to death for gassing inmates at camps where
all now admit gassings never occurred.

Years after the show trials and retribution ended, people who attempted to
set the record straight lost their jobs, were imprisoned, and have been
assaulted and had their businesses burned.

The question of motive is important. If the Germans intended merely to move
their jewish population to some other land (following a stint at hard
labor), then their behavior is no worse (and in many cases, much better)
than the behavior of dozens of other peoples in the Twentieth Century who
have attempted the same enterprise. The fact that many thousands died of
disease and from starvation in the final months of the war, becomes, while
tragic, understandable. After all, would Americans of Japanese ancestry
interned by our liberals during the same war have met a more gentle fate if
the Emperor's forces had captured California in 1944?

The false accusations of gas chambers in locations where none existed expose
the murderous side of liberalism.

The falsehoods show clearly that beneath the manipulative masks of
"compassion" and "caring", lies a brutality, lust for power and concealed
ethnic hatreds that liberals do not want you to see.

That is what the revisionist fuss is all about.

Recently we have seen how some bizarre sexual practices within a Texas
religious cult in Waco became an excuse for a tank assault and mass death by
fire. The leader of the cult could easily have been arrested, and the
slaughter avoided, on any one of his regular trips to the local grocery
store.

We saw how a warrant for failure to appear on a misdemeanor charge is
transformed into an armed assault on a family living in harmless social
isolation in Ruby Ridge, Idaho. The marginally literate offender appeared on
the wrong date typed on his summons by a clerk and decided not to appear
again. The local sheriff could have straightened out the misunderstanding
and brought him in easily. Instead, federal marshals and FBI snipers rewrote
the "rules of engagement" for this special occasion, and shot his 14 year
old son and his wife. In each case, the liberal establishment portrays the
objects of these armed slaughters as social undesirables. Because they are
Christian fundamentalists with anti-egalitarian views, the government is
free to treat them like wild animals and kill them wantonly, cutting off the
normal procedures for a fair factual examination of their alleged
wrongdoing.

Our liberal elites roundly approve.

The press and the media did their usual artful job of stirring up prejudice
among the middle class and of procuring social acceptance for these
slaughters of undesirables with images of a cult leader having sex with
children, in one case, and of white separatist political beliefs, in the
other.

Civilized countries are supposed to maintain dispassionate forums that
isolate emotion and prejudice when finding the facts of guilt or innocence.
However, our liberal elites reserve the right to apply the extra-judicial
process of the sniper and the battle tank to fundamentalist Christians,
anti-egalitarians and other political undesirables with politically
incorrect ideas.

Liberals applied the same techniques 50 years ago following the Second World
War, but on a broader scale.

50 years ago, German prison guards were machine gunned to death by American
troops for gassing inmates at camps where no gas chambers ever existed.

Camp commandants were tried at Nuremburg, convicted and then hung or jailed
for running gas chambers based on testimonies conceded by all 30 years later
to be false.

More recently, we have the spectacle of dozens of impassioned witnesses in
an Israeli court pointing at John Demjanjuk and identifying him as "Ivan the
Terrible" of Treblinka, when documents from newly opened Russia demonstrated
that Demjanjuk was not Ivan and was never stationed at Treblinka. (Demjanjuk
was also 2 inches shorter than Ivan.)

One may be tempted to dismiss the inaccuracies as a natural byproduct of the
urge for retribution by members of the ethnic group rounded up for
deportation.

But much more is at stake here.

In a century when all of humanity was been breaking the bonds of colonialism
and asserting the right to establish their own ethnic states and racial
nations, the liberal power structure has come under profound threat.

As competing sources of raw materials multiplied during the 20th Century, it
became tolerable for peoples outside of Europe and North America to liberate
themselves from boundaries of states drawn without regard to ethnic and
racial identity. However, with the value of knowledge and technology as
inputs to the industrial process increasing, any extension of the same
principle to the European race is profoundly threatening to the liberal
order.

The real power in our world comes from control of peoples in advanced
industrial economies.

The false gas chamber allegations were an essential prop for the creation of
a new secular myth that makes any effort by European peoples to establish an
ethnic or racial state "uniquely evil."

Billions of dollars have been spent propagating the message that any
racially based movement for self-determination among whites must lead to
"homicidal gas chambers." In the eyes of our murderous liberal elites, the
lives of a few German guards and officers, like the lives of the Weavers,
were well spent in a worthwhile endeavor.

And why, exactly, is this socialist enslavement so important to preserve? -
Because liberals are free to import non-whites without protest, drive down
the price of labor temporarily, identify new social problems caused by the
"discriminatory outcomes" for non-whites and then increase taxes on the
productive to solve the problem.

They also have the right to elevate final consumer demand through mass
advertising free of any practical effects from the anti- materialist ideals
of traditional religions or the anti- materialist values of racial
independence movements.

Of the two opponents of the consumerist liberal enterprise, traditional
religions can be tolerated. Racial and ethnic nationalism cannot.

For if you examine the record of the latter half of the twentieth century,
you will quickly realize that there is only one force actually capable of
reconfiguring borders, governments and tax burdens all at the same time.
Traditional religions cannot accomplish such a task.

In the latter half of the Twentieth Century, our liberal elites have been
forced by circumstance to apply such a blatant double standard to ordinary
people of European ancestry that the truth is beginning to bubble to the
surface.

Few people of European Ancestry would have drawn any parallels from the
ethnic self-determination movements sweeping the rest of the world if they
had not been burdened by domestic racial preferences. The liberal
establishment was forced to grant racial preferences to non-whites living
within Europe and North America as the price of buying their votes.

It is the broad recognition that domestic racial preferences for
non-Europeans impose real costs that creates a new feedback loop in which
those bearing that cost re-examine society's taboos.

Do multi-racial empires anywhere actually work?

Is the integrationist moral paradigm motivated by self interest?

Is the integrationist moral paradigm part of a campaign to convince a once
great people that the meaning of life really is wearing Levi's jeans and
drinking Coke?

Must all European or Euro-American ethnic or race-based independence
movements be "uniquely evil," as we have been taught?

Has European history of 50 years ago been distorted to deny Europeans
freedom as the rest of humanity defines freedom?

Does the liberal elite have an intense interest in the images of slaughter
from Bosnia while hoping you forget about the peace and prosperity in the
newly created Czech and Slovak republics nearby?

A very small voice hidden among the branches of that mythic Nordic Tree of
Life suggests that it might be time for free inquiry.

Yggdrasil-


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DeppityBob

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WhatEVER a gas chamber has to do with Waco is a secret in the mind of
"Screaming Private Dan" Parker...


[Beginning in June, 1942] ...

"The old wooden building with its three gas chambers was dismantled,
and on the same site a bigger, more solid building was erected. The
new building was 24 meters long and 10 meters wide. It had six gas
chambers, each of them 4 x 8 meters. (According to other sources, the
size of the new gas chambers was 4 x 5 meters each.) Toward the middle
of July, the new gas chambers were operational." <1>

"Rudolf Reder, one of the two survivors of Belzec described the gas
chambers:

The building was low, long and wide. It was of grey concrete,
had a flat roof covered with pap, and above it a net covered
with green branches. Three steps without railings, 1 meter
wide, led into the building. In front of the building was a
big flower pot with colorful flowers and a clearly written
sign reading: 'Bade und Inhalationstraume' [Bath and
Inhalation Rooms]. The steps led to a dark, long, and empty
corridor, 1.5 meters wide. On the right and left of the
corridor were doors to the gas chambers. These were wooden
doors, 1 meter wide.... The corridor and the chambers were
lower than ordinary rooms, no higher than 2 meters. On the
opposite wall of each chamber was a removable door, 2 meters
wide, from which the gassed bodies were thrown out. Outside
the building was a shed, 2 x 2 meters, where the engine for
the gas was installed. The chambers were 1.5 meters above
ground level." <2>

"These new gas chambers could absorb over 2,000 people at a time, the
capacity of a transport of about twenty freight cars. Belzec was now
ready to renew activity on an even larger scale.."

<1> Yad Vashem Archives, TR-10/583, p. 1; Yad Vashem Archives,
TR-10/517, p.34
<2> YVA TR-10/517 (Belzec-Oberhauser), Band 8, p. 1514

Excerpted from....----------------------------------------------
BELZEC, SOBIBOR, TREBLINKA - the Operation Reinhard Death Camps
Indiana University Press - Yitzhak Arad, 1987. ISBN 0-253-3429-7
------------------------------------------

SS-Doctor Kremer about his days at Auschwitz:
[Quoted in 'The Good Old Days' - E. Klee, W. Dressen, V. Riess, The
Free Press, NY, 1988, p. 258].
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I remember I once took part in the gassing of one of these groups
of women [from the women's camp in Auschwitz]. I cannot say how
big the group was. when I got close to the bunker I saw them
sitting on the ground. They were still clothed. As they were
wearing worn-out camp clothing they were not left in the undressing
hut but made to undress in the open air. I concluded from the
behavior of these women that they had no doubt what fate awaited
them, as they begged and sobbed to the SS men to spare them their
lives. However, they were herded into the gas chambers and gassed.
As an anatomist I have seen a lot of terrible things: I had had
a lot of experience with dead bodies, and yet what I saw that
day was like nothing I had ever seen before. Still completely
shocked by what I had seen I wrote on my diary on 5 September
1942: "The most dreadful of horrors. Hauptscharfuehrer Thilo was
right when he said to me today that this is the 'anus mundi', the
anal orifice of the world". I used this image because I could not
imagine anything more disgusting and horrific.
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Kurt Prufer, senior engineer of Topf and Sohne, testifying in Erfurt,
Germany, March 5, 1946
[Quoted from the interrogation transcripts by Prof. Gerald Fleming
from the University of Surrey, in an NYT article, July 18 1993]
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Q. Who apart from you participated in the construction of the furnaces?

A. From 1941-2, I constructed the furnaces. The technical drawings were
done by Mr. Keller. The ventilation systems of the "Kremas"
[crematoriums] were constructed by senior engineer Karl Schultze.

Q. How often and with what aim did you visit Auschwitz?

A. Five times. The first time at the beginning of 1943, to receive orders
of the SS Command where the Kremas were to be built. The second time in
spring 1943 to inspect the building site. The third time was in autumn
1943 to inspect a fault in the construction of a Krema chimney. The
forth time at the beginning of 1944, to inspect the repaired chimney. the
fifth time in September-October 1944, when I visited Auschwitz with the
intended relocation [from Auschwitz] of the crematoriums, since the
front was getting nearer. The crematoriums were not relocated, because
there were not enough workers.

Q. Were you the sole Topf engineer in Auschwitz in spring 1943?

A. No, [senior engineer Karl] Schultze was with me in Auschwitz at the time.
I saw personally about 60 corpses of women and men of different ages,
which were being prepared for incineration. That was at 10 in the
morning. I witnessed the incineration of six corpses and and came to the
conclusion that the furnaces were working well.

Q. Did you see a gas chamber next to the crematoriums?

A. Yes, I did see one next to the crematorium. Between the gas chamber and
the crematorium there was a connecting structure.

Q. Did you know that in the gas chamber and in the crematoriums there took
place the liquidation of innocent human beings?

A. I have known since spring 1943 that innocent human beings were being
liquidated in Auschwitz gas chambers and that their corpses were
subsequently incinerated in the crematoriums.

Q. Who is the designer of the ventilation systems for the gas chambers?

A. Schultze was the designer of the ventilation systems in the gas chambers;
and he installed them.

Q. Why was the brick lining of the muffles so quickly damaged?

A. The bricks were damaged after six months because the strain on the
furnaces was colossal.
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Accoring to Naumann:

<begin quote>

The civil engineer Motz of Warsaw, now forty, was still very young when,
at the beginning of 1941, he was brought to Auschwitz, accused of having
been a sniper. There he received the prisoner number 9,589. During the
summer of that year- he says from July until September -he had to work in
the stores of Auschwitz I and at times also had to act as orderly for his
SS boss, the chief of the stores, Arthur Breitwieser. "As a boss he
treated us all right," Motz tells the jury, but he says that Breitwieser
was the first to gas people with Zyklon B.

"At the time [in the summer of 1941] Breitwieser made the first experiment
in the storeroom to delouse dirty laundry," Motz says and describes how a
room was closed off in the storeroom and filled with Zyklon B by
Breitwieser. Breitwieser seemed satisfied: "Now we finally also have
something for gassing the prisoners." A few days later about 150 to 200
Soviet officers and commissars were taken to the prison bunker and that
same day locked up there with about 100 to 150 sick prisoners.

"Then Grabner, Lachmann, Dylewski, Stark, Hössler, and Steiwitz came to
Breitwieser in the storeroom and we thought we too were going to be
selected. But they only went over to Breitwieser, who took to or three
cans and handed one or two to an SS man . All of them went to Block 11,
and there was a blockade. About an hour later Breitwieser came back to the
storeroom and was angry because it hadn't worked. The next day, or maybe
two days, or maybe two days later, the medical assistants from the
hospital compound were called together. They had to take handcarts and go
over to Block 11. When they returned with the carts they were piled high
with corpses." The next night there was another gassing.

<end quote>

Source: Naumann, _Auschwitz_, p.310.


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Allan Matthews

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In article <19981116140242...@ng36.aol.com>,
deppi...@aol.com.org.net says...

>WhatEVER a gas chamber has to do with Waco is a secret in the mind of
>"Screaming Private Dan" Parker...

Well, both the Holocaust and Waco involve mass murder ordered by a
charismatic but detestable "leader." Koresh may have thought he was
Jesus reborn, but in actuality he was more like Hitler reborn.

allan
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