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Hitler's mentor: Karl Haushofer

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Jason James

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Notwithstanding Adolf Hitler's claims on the contrary, some authors believe
that it was Karl Haushofer, whom they see as Hitler's guiding brain, the one
who suggested the Führer the adoption of the swastika as the Nazi symbol.
This is, i. e., the opinion of Pauwels and Bergier. [1]

Karl Haushofer was born in Bavaria in 1869. He chose a career as a
professional soldier, and his intellectual gifts and meticulous attention to
detail quickly allowed him to get an appointment to the Staff Corps.

Haushofer is known to have had a reputation for precognition, manifested
when he was a young field artillery officer in the Bavarian army. In 1908
the army sent him to Tokyo to study the Japanese army and to advise it as an
artillery instructor. The assignment changed the course of his life and
marked the beginning of his love affair with the Orient. During the next
four years he traveled extensively in the Far East, adding Korean, Japanese,
and Chinese to his repertoire of Russian, French, and English languages.

During his multiple visits to Japan, Haushofer made the acquaintance of many
influential Japanese politicians and developed a strong rapport for the
Japanese culture which helped in some way to create the German-Japanese
alliance during the war.

Karl Haushofer had been a devout student of Schopenhauer, and during his
stay in the Far East he was introduced to Oriental esoteric teachings. He
became proficient enough to translate several Hindu and Buddhist texts, and
became an authority in Oriental mysticism. Some authors even believe that he
was the leader of a secret community of Initiates in a current of satanism
through which he sought to raise Germany to world power, though these occult
connections have been denied.

It is also believed that he belonged to the esoteric circle of George
Gurdjieff. [2] Others claim that he was a secret member of the Thule
Society. Some authors have linked Haushofer's name with another esoteric
group, the Vril Society, [3] or Luminous Lodge, a secret society of
occultists in pre-Nazi Berlin.

It was not until the age of forty-five that he obtained his doctorate with a
brilliant thesis on Political Geography. He continued developing the ideas
expressed on his dissertation, until developing a whole new doctrine he
called geopolitics. [4]

Among Haushofer's students at Munich university was a young, bright army
officer: Rudolf Hess. Soon Hess became Haushofer's favorite student. Later
Hess also became one of the closest associates of Hitler. He was serving
time with Hitler at Lansdberg. It is a well known fact that it was Rudolf
Hess who introduced Haushofer to Adolf Hitler, and also that the professor
frequently visited the Führer while he was writing Mein Kampf in Landsberg
Fortress prison after his failed Munich putsch in 1923.

After Hitler came to power in 1933, Professor Haushofer was instrumental in
developing Germany's alliance with Japan. Most of the meetings between high
rank Japanese officials and Nazi leaders took place at his home near Munich.
He saw Japan as the brother nation to Germany, the Herrenwolk of the Orient.

Before the war Professor Haushofer and his son Albrecht maintained close
contacts with British members of the Golden Dawn. [5] When war between
Germany and England broke out Haushofer tried to use his influence with Hess
in trying to convince Hitler to make peace with the British.

In the Spring of 1941, after having failed to convince Hitler, Haushofer
urged Hess to make a direct contact with the Duke of Hamilton, a Scottish
member of the Golden Dawn. On may 10, 1941, Hess took off for Scot-land.
Whether Hitler knew his plans or not is still subject of debate among
historians.

The British government, however, didn' t even want to hear Hess' peace
propositions and put him in jail incommunicado. After Hess' failure the
Nazis denounced him as mentally disturbed.

Karl and Albrecht Haushofer fell from grace. Albrecht became involved in a
failed coup d'etat against Hitler on July 20, 1941. Karl Haushofer was sent
to the infamous Dachau concentration camp, and Albrecht to the Moabite
prison in Berlin, where was later executed.

Some authors claim that, while in Japan, Haushofer was active in the
ultra-secret Green Dragon Society, whose members were under oath to commit
ritual suicide if faced with dishonor. After the war Haushofer was among the
Nazi members to be put to trial before the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal.
But Professor Haushofer never went to trial. After killing his wife, Karl
Haushofer committed suicide in the traditional Japanese way, cutting his
intestines with a sharp samurai short sword, in a personal, formal ceremony
called seppuku (commonly known as hara-kiri).

colonel_...@yahoo.com.au

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"After killing his wife, Karl
Haushofer committed suicide in the traditional Japanese way, cutting
his
intestines with a sharp samurai short sword, in a personal, formal
ceremony
called seppuku (commonly known as hara-kiri). "

LOL, Im sure he did. I expect Himmler did the same.

Dont tell me - was his body buried in an unmarked grave as well?

Jason James

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<colonel_...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Caught up in the 'don't believe anything non-revisionists say dilemma?

Himmler killed himself while detained by the Brits. In that decision, I can
understand his motives ie he knew what was in store for him. He knew that
which he sanctioned and promulgated, was so heinous, so obscene, it was time
to split,...his way, which was more than the poor bastards he had killed,
had.

Jason


Topaz

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One of the points on the National Socialist party platform was that
the party was for positive Christianity. This is what it said:

"The party as such, stands for positive Christianity but does not
bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession."

Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

" But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest
antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged-the nation, because it
was held to be an invention of the 'capitalist' class (how often I had
heard that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an
instrument in the hands of the bourgeosie for the exploitation of the
working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of
holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the
people, so as to exploit them afterward; morality, as a badge of
stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag
in the mud.
"At first I remained silent; but that could not last very long."

"And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with
the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I
am defending the handiwork of the Lord."

"Was not the Press instrumental in bringing in a state of moral
degradation among our people? Were not morals and public decency made
to look ridiculous and classed as out-of-date and banal, until finally
our people also became modernized?"

"It must be noted too that the attack on the dogmatic
principles underlying ecclesiastical teaching increased steadily in
violence. And yet this human world of ours would be inconceivable
without the practical existance of a religious belief. The great
masses of a nation are not composed of philosophers. For the masses of
the people especially, faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral
outlook on life."

"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God"

"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Of religion he (the Jew) makes a mockery. Morality and decency
are described as anti-quated prejudices"

"Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and
Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts content,
while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up
his sleeve."

"the Jew trafficked in the freedom of the nation and sold our
country to the masters of international high finance. So in our day he
has succeeded again, this time by raising ructions between the two
German religious denominations while the foundations on which both
rest are being eaten away and destroyed through the poison injected by
the international and cosmopolitan Jew."

"The most devoted Protestant could stand side by side with the
most devoted Catholic in our ranks"

"The National Socialist Movement must see to it that at least in
our own country the mortal enemy is recognized and that the fight
against him may be a beacon light pointing to a new and better period
for other nations as well as showing the way of salvation for Aryan
humanity in the struggle for its existance."


Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:

"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:

1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.

4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.

5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.

"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.

"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."


Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party (quoted from
John Cornwell's "Hitler's Pope"
"The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany
means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the
Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and
unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is
hostile to religion is a lie."


Adolf Hitler, speaking in the Reichstag on 30 Jan. 1934
" Imbued with the desire to secure for the German people the great
religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian
Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but
strengthened the religious institutions."

Adolf Hitler, in his speech at Koblenz, to the Germans of the Saar, 26
Aug. 1934
"National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it
anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real
Christianity.... For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours
alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of
to-day, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic
movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness
of a community in our national life... These are not anti-Christian,
these are Christian principles! And I believe that if we should fail
to follow these principles then we should to be able to point to our
successes, for the result of our political battle is surely not
unblest by God."

Adolf Hitler, to Nazi leaders on 2 June 1937, as reported by a
correspondent of the "Daily Telegraph"
"We National Socialists, too, have deep in our hearts our own faith.
We cannot do otherwise. No man can mould the history of peoples or of
the world unless he has upon his will and his capacities the blessing
of Providence."

Adolf Hitler, speaking of the Winter Help Campaign on 5 Oct. 1937
This Winter Help Work is also in the deepest sense a Christian work.
When I see, as I so often do, poorly clad girls collecting with such
infinite patience in order to care for those who are suffering from
the cold while they themselves are shivering with cold, then I have
the feeling that they are all apostles of a Christianity-- and in
truth of a Christianity which can say with greater right than any
other: This is the Christianity of an honest confession, for behind it
stand not words but deeds.

Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept. 1938.
National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it
is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship....
We will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for
exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.
Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any
case something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our
programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception
and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the
central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the
maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by
God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a
divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship,
but openly before the face of the Lord....
Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for
that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is
the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so
far as they are known to us men.

Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the "Old Guard" at Munich on 24 Feb.
1939
If positive Christianity means love of one's neighbour, i.e. the
tending of the sick, the clothing of the poor, the feeding of the
hungry, the giving of drink to those who are thirsty, then it is we
who are the more positive Christians. For in these spheres the
community of the people of National Socialist Germany has accomplished
a prodigious work.


VOELKISCHER BEOBACHTER, 24 March 1933, Page 1

[Hitler's Speech at second meeting of the Reichstag of 1933, on
23 March 1933, asking for the adoption of the Enabling Act.]

"While the Government is determined to carry through the political and
moral purging of our public life, it is creating and insuring
prerequisites for a truly religious life. The Government sees in both
Christian confessions the most important factors for the maintenance
of our
folkdom. It will respect agreements concluded between them and the
States.
However, it respects that its work will meet with a similar
appreciation.
The Government will treat all other denominations with equal
objective justice.
It can never condone, though, that belonging to a certain
denomination
or to a certain race might be regarded as a license to commit or
tolerate
crimes. The Government will devote its care to the sincere living
together
of Church and State."

Hitler said in a speech in Berlin on March 23, 1933 "The Reich
government sees in Christianity the unshakable foundation of the
ethics and morality of the folk."

In a speech delivered April 12, 1922, published in "My New Order,"
and quoted in "Freethought Today" (April 1990), Hitler said:

"For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I
look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at
the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and
misery. "When I go out in the morning and see these men
standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I
believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity
for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn
against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and
exploited."

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Topaz

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German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the Allies
were subhuman monsters:

Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."

Jason James

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the Allies
> were subhuman monsters:
>
> Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
> 1925, Sao Paulo,
> Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D
>
> Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

Alex, we know that some of the red-army recruits were monsters. We know that
some of them came from villages where they didn't even have baths for once
they got to into Germany, they thought bath-tubs were urinals. We know all
this,..but In Know Way does this e3xcuse Himmler and Heydrich's
murder-machine they put in place. Even during Nazi-Germainies last gasps
during the battle of the Bulge, SS panzer divisions were murdering woman and
children after re-taking French villages. That's the stuff they were made of
ie inhuman murdering, torturing walking humanoids. (look it up)

Jason


Joe Bruno

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As far as I can tell, the word "hara-kiri" applies to men committing
ritual suicide and the word "seppuku applies when women do it.

Jason James

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> One of the points on the National Socialist party platform was that
> the party was for positive Christianity. This is what it said:
>
> "The party as such, stands for positive Christianity but does not
> bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession."
>
> Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:
>
> " But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest
> antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged-the nation, because it
> was held to be an invention of the 'capitalist' class (how often I had
> heard that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an
> instrument in the hands of the bourgeosie for the exploitation of the
> working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of
> holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the
> people, so as to exploit them afterward; morality, as a badge of
> stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag
> in the mud.
> "At first I remained silent; but that could not last very long."
>
> "And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with
> the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I
> am defending the handiwork of the Lord."

Hitler was not a Christian. Hitler didn't read from the Bible. What he did
do was try and distort the basic Christian message, by saying it was
anti-Jewish. There is no place for hate in Christianitym,,this is THE most
basic ideological element we can draw from mainstream Christianity taken
from the whole Bible (non-mainstream Christianity includes 'Christian
Identity' churches)

Here, we have a number of NSDAP-ideological, Bible-based distortions. In
effect AH tried to enlist Christians onto his Nazi platform by saying Jews
of today are responsible for Christ's death, are the anti-Christs etc,
etc,etc All this is bullshit for the gullible, the those purveying Nazi
chicanery and the mad.

You miss the meaning in His message. He may have argued with the Pharisees
during His time,..but that was then not now. Pharisees were a group within
Jews of which Christ himself was one (Jewish) who were very adherant and
zealous wrt Hebrew law. As a result,when Christ started preaching it was
natural for some friction to occur for Christ's full divinity came to pass
after his crucifixion. Before that event, he was capable of man's anger.

The Pharisees hated the Romans with a passion for a number of well
documented reasons. Pilate in no way acted on Pharisaic orders, to suggest
same is the height of absurdity. What he did do was to play out an act where
he attempted to disenfranchise himself from the act of ordering Christ's
execution by pretending to refer to the Pharisees on the decision.
The Romans organised and executed every step of the crucifixion.

Christianity as a whole is not demonstrated by the continual denigration of
any particular group. For the Christian, there are no enemies among the
peoples of the Earth, just those who don't believe or have faith and those
who do.

The Pharisees existed for approx 200 yrs, and even if they still were
present today, the *whole* understanding and faith of Christianity would not
produce the continual harranging and profanity that far-rightwing
individuals and organisations professing to be Christian, carry on with
today.

Jason

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>Alex, we know that some of the red-army recruits were monsters. We know that
>some of them came from villages where they didn't even have baths for once
>they got to into Germany, they thought bath-tubs were urinals.

The Allies were evil.

The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986

"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety.
We will not let her pass our sentries on the roads. We are turning her
and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."

p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."

Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945

"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."

At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.

> We know all
>this,..but In Know Way does this e3xcuse Himmler and Heydrich's
>murder-machine they put in place.



During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponants and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"

The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are
set out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that
the few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas
chamber" which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually
built by the allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:

Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...

"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V
are in their demolished state as they were left."

Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...

"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.

"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it
would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully admit
that
it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."

They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at
Auschwitz was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no
physical evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of
people who died from gas have been found. The Communists were the
first to enter the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists
didn't blow up the buildings? Then they could claim that these
demolished buildings used to be gas chambers.

But then the believers will say the Gemans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:

"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992],
the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess
by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating
what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.

In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death,
Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three days, he
and
Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture Hoess into
making a
"coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions of Death, p. 237],
he
and the other interrogators put the boots to Hoess the moment he was
captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face four times to get
Höess to
reveal his true identity.

<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the
arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order
signed by Höss.

The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables,
where it
seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.

Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless
you want to take back a corpse."

A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where
the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his throat.
Höss
tried to sleep.

Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered
in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."

For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification:
"I
took my orders frorn Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are
a soldier and we had to obey orders."

The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The
snow was
swirling still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to
walk
completely nude through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>

An article in the Britsh newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with
a Nazi war criminal -- We kept him awake until he confessed," October
17,
1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case of Rudolf
Hoess
included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:

<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us
when
he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activities during
the
war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail
cell in
the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed
with
Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell to help break him down for
interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed
with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help
break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out
for
exercise he was made to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the
bitter
cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Höss finally broke
down
and made a full confession to the authorities.
</quote>

The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped,
as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral deposition
Hoess
made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it had been
extracted
from him by torture...


Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.

The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.

The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions
of Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:

Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:

"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)


Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man
and His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941,
translated by Charles Malamuth.

In this book he told who the principle members of the October
Central Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik
Party during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:

"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons
elected by secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the
exception of the four who had recieved the largest number of votes.
Lenin--133 out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131,
Trotzky--131."

Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three
were known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a
Jewess. It was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London
Jewish Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:

"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent
of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other
country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a
world-wide revolution."

The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:

"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."

In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:

Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.

Andrew Roth, a Jew.

Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.

John Service, a gentile.

Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown

Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.

In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was
Gerhart Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist
Party in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film
writers of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of
Congress and sentanced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of
the ten were communist party members and the other four were
flagrantly pro-communist.

One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis
and the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National
Secretariat of the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two
gentiles, three nationality unknown.

Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.

Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated
in the heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were
neither Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing
Jews at all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl
Marx, though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
thoughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."


"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two
men who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went thoughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and
published by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes
Stalin in an interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency.
Stalin said:

"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."

The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:

State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia
on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type"
type."

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government:
"...(T)here
were 384 `commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it
is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of
things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by
Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism,
as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige
of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).


Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried
to
read articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in
doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff.
From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I recalled to
mind the
names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then I realized that most
of
them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social Democratic
representatives in
the Imperial Cabinet as well as the secretaries if the Trades Unions
and
the street agitators. Everywhere the same sinister picture presented
itself. I shall never forget the row of names- Austerlitz, David,
Adler,
Ellonbogen, and others. One fact became quite evident to me. It was
that
this alien race held in its hands the leadership of that Social
Democratic
Party with whose minor representatives I had been disputing for
months
past."

Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

Here is something the National Socialists wrote:

"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."

>Even during Nazi-Germainies last gasps
>during the battle of the Bulge, SS panzer divisions were murdering woman and
>children after re-taking French villages.

The Jews control your media and your mind.


Here are some quotes published in 1946 by Dr. Austin J. App. He
was an American English professor that was drafted into the army:

"these beloved fellow-liberators of ours are doing well indeed,
They know why one wants Unconditional Surrender and why Americans
cried for a "harsh" peace against the Germans, and they understand the
spirit of the Morgenthau Plan: In Vienna alone they raped 100,000
women, not once but many times, including girls not yet in their
teens, and aged women! So reported the Most Rev. Bernard Griffin,
British Archbishop (now cardinal) after a more or less official tour
to study conditions in Europe (NC Report, Oct. 18, 1945)."

"'We Allies are no monsters,' said Churchill to the Germans in
January, 1945...Since that time the Allies who are no monsters have
raped more Christian women than have literally ever before been raped
in the history of the world. They have put Germany on a 1300-calory
starvation level; they have looted twelve million people of their
homes, goods, food and even clothes and driven them from their
homelands; they have kept or taken one-fourth of their farm land and
their ships and their factories and most of their farm implements and
then told them to live by farming; they have abused and starved to
death more German babies than their ever were Jews in Germany; and
finally they raped and debauched hundreds of thousands of German,
Austrian, and Hungarian girls and women from eight to eighty. They
brought to their death five times as many Germans in one year of peace
as died during five years of war! Yes, Yes, of course, 'We Allies are
no monsters!'"

"Time magazine (Oct. 2, 1945 p.27), describing the mass expulsion
'of at least nine million
Germans...it is a tale of horror, old men starving on the roads, yound
women raped in boxcars.'
And the holy crusaders who are doing this raping have the
shamelessness of trying whole classes of Germans as war criminals!"

" Sylvester C. Michelfelder, a Lutheran Pastor, just returned
from Germany describes in The Christian Century how 'Bands of
irresponsible bandits in Russian or American uniforms pillage and rob
trains. Women and girls are violoated in the sight of everyone. They
are stripped of their clothes.' Yes, the holy reeducators of Germany
are having a wonderful time!"

" In Stuttgart, troops under Eisenhower's command, with whom his
communications were not severed, raped more women in one week in one
city than troops under Hitler's command seem to have raped in four
years in all of France. For such literally seem to be the facts,
however discomforting to decent Americans."

" After four years of German occupation, Frederick C. Crawford,
President of Thompson Products, on January 4, 1945, in a 'Report from
the War Front,' where with others the War Department had taken him on
an inspection tour, said, 'the Germans tried to be careful in their
dealings with the people...We were told that if a citizen attended
strictly to business and took no political or underground action
against the occupying army, he was treated with correctness' (p.5) In
short, wherever Americans have been able to investigate for
themselves, they have found that however ruthless the Germans were
with resisters and saboteurs, they were uncommonly Christian and
decent towards the women of the conquered."

"'Americans look on the German women as loot, just like cameras
and Lugers' (N.Y. World Telegram, January 21, 1945)"

"Some of our own senators have declared this starvation
planned and deliberate. In fact, so determined are our policy makers
to starve the conquered that they have callously prohibited even
private charity. 'For the first time in the history of Christian
nations', writes Bishop Aloisius Muench of Fargo, North Dakota,
'powerful governments are making the exercise of Christian charity
impossible through official regulations' (One World in Charity, Lent,
1946, p.1)"

"Nevertheless, in spite of this deliberately planned or
encouraged, and certainly tolerated debauchery of German and Austrian
women by occupation troops under American command, the American and
the British occupation cannot be compared to the shocking beastliness
of the Russian occupation...we who screamed when the Germans executed
the British-sent murderers of a governor and their concealers at
Lidice, and don't raise a wimper when the Russians violate a million
women and hundreds of nuns!"



> That's the stuff they were made of
>ie inhuman murdering, torturing walking humanoids. (look it up)
>

The Jews control your media and your mind.


There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:

"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.

"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"

"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."

"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."

"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."

"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."

"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."

"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."

"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."

"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."

"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."

" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."

"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."

"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."

"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."

Topaz

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:49:14 GMT, "Jason James"
<asso...@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote:

>
>Hitler was not a Christian.

The National Socialists outlawed abortion. They outlawed
homosexual perversion and feminism. They outlawed pornography and
prostitution. They removed the race of anti-Christs from controlling
the media. They rejected both the madness of Communism and the greed
of Capitalism.

> Hitler didn't read from the Bible.

What a Jewish thing to say.

>What he did
>do was try and distort the basic Christian message

That is what Jews do.


>, by saying it was
>anti-Jewish.


John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would
not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him."

John 20:19 "the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled
for fear of the Jews"

2 Co 11:24 "Of the Jews five times recieved I forty stripes save
one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned"

Mathew 27: 20+25 "But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the
multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus...then
answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our
children."

Acts 25:24 "ye see this man, about whom all the multitude of the Jews
have dealt with me, both at Jerusalem and also here, crying that he
ought not to live any longer."

John 8:42,44,48 "Jesus said unto them...Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from
the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth
in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a
liar, and the father of it...Then answered the Jews..."


>There is no place for hate in Christianitym,,this is THE most
>basic ideological element we can draw from mainstream Christianity taken
>from the whole Bible (non-mainstream Christianity includes 'Christian
>Identity' churches)

We should hate evil ie Jews.


>
> Here, we have a number of NSDAP-ideological, Bible-based distortions. In
>effect AH tried to enlist Christians onto his Nazi platform by saying Jews
>of today are responsible for Christ's death, are the anti-Christs etc,
>etc,etc All this is bullshit for the gullible, the those purveying Nazi
>chicanery and the mad.


1899-1900. The Jews attempt to have the word "Christian" removed
from the Bill
of Rights of the State of Virginia.

1906-1907. The Jews of Oklahoma petition the Constitutional
Convention
protesting that the acknowledgment of Christ in the new State
constitution then
being formulated would be repugnant to the Constitution of the United
States.

The Jews force "The Merchant of Venice" to be dropped from public
schools in
Texas, Ohio.

1907-1908. Widespread demand by the Jews for the complete
secularization of
the public institutions of this country, as a part of the demand of
the Jews for
their constitutional rights.

Supreme Court Justice Brewer's statement that this is a Christian
country
widely controverted by Jewish rabbis and publications.

Jews agitate in many cities against Bible reading. Christmas
celebrations or
carols in Philadelphia, Cincinnati, St. Paul and New York met with
strong Jewish
opposition.

1908-1909. Protests made to Governor of Arkansas against
"Christological
expressions" employed by him in his Thanksgiving Day proclamation.

Professor Gotthard Deutsch protests against "Christological prayers"
at the
high school graduating exercises at Cincinnati.

Jewish community in Tamaqua, Pennsylvania defeats resolutions
providing daily
Bible reading in schools.

Local Council of Jewish Women of Baltimore petitions school board to
prohibit
Christmas exercises.

Boycotts were instituted in New York against merchants who opened on
Saturday.

Special efforts at this period to introduce the idea of the Jewish
Sabbath
into public business. Jews refused to sit as jurors in court, thus
postponing
cases.

1909-1910. On demand of the Jews, the school board of Bridgeport,
Pennsylvania, votes to discontinue the recitation of the Lord's Prayer
in the
school.

In Newark, New Jersey, the rabbis ask the night schools to
discontinue Friday
evening sessions, because the Jewish Sabbath begins at sundown on
Friday.

The work of introducing the idea of Jewish national holidays into
public life
especially active.

1910-1911. An attempt to have Hebrew officially recognized was
frustrated by
Supreme Court Judge Goff.

Chicago Jews have election date changed because the official date
fell on the
last day of the Passover.

Jews oppose Bible reading and singing of hymns in Detroit schools.

Rabbis force Hartford, Connecticut, school board to drop "The
Merchant of
Venice" from reading list.

New York Kehillah does two contradictory things; favors bill to
permit Jews to
do all kinds of business on Sunday, and pledges itself to co-operate
in the
strict enforcement of the Sunday laws.

1911-1912. Jews in Passaic, New Jersey, petition school board to
eliminate
Bible reading and all Christian songs from the schools.

At request of a rabbi, three principals of Roxbury, Mass., public
schools
agree to banish Christmas tree and omit all references to the season
from their
schools.

A Jewish delegate to the Ohio Constitutional Convention suggests
that the
Constitution be made to forbid Christian religious references in
schools.

The Council of the University Settlement, at the request of the New
York
Kehillah, adopts this resolution: "That in the holiday celebrations
held
annually by the Kindergarten Association at the University Settlement
every
feature of any sectarian character, including Christmas trees,
Christmas
programs and Christmas songs, shall be eliminated."

1912-1913. Jews at Jackson, Tennessee, seek an injunction to prevent
the
reading of the Bible in City schools.

Annual Convention Independent Order B'nai B'rith at Nashville,
Tennessee,
adopts resolution against reading of the Bible and singing Christian
songs in
public schools.

Chicago Board of Education, scene of much Jewish agitation, approves
recommendation of sub-committee to remove Christmas from the list of
official
public holidays in schools.

1913-1914. The energies of the Jewish powers were concentrated on
the task of
preventing the United States from changing the immigration laws in a
manner to
protect the country from undesirable aliens.

1914-1915. More Kehillah attempts to secure modification of the
Sunday laws.

1915-1916. Jewish opposition to various movements towards making the
schools
free to use the Bible.

1916-1917. Jews busy carrying out an immense campaign against the
"literacy
clause" of the Immigration Sill.

On demand of the Jews the New Haven Connecticut, Board of Education
prevents
the reading of "The Merchant of Venice," and extends the prohibition
to "Lamb's
Tales from Shakespeare."

1918-191g. Provost Marshal Crowder, in charge of the Selective Draft
U. S.
Forces, had issued an order to all medical examiners, under direction
of the
Surgeon General, stating "The foreign-born, especially Jews, are more
apt to
malinger than the native-born." Louis Marshall, head of the American
Jewish
Committee, telegraphed demanding that the "further use of this form
shall be at
once discontinued." President Wilson ordered the excision of the
paragraph.

The United States Shipping Board sent an advertisement to the "New
York
Times," calling for a file clerk and stating that a "Christian" was
preferred-by
which is meant always a nonJew-the paper rejected it. Louis Marshall
again went
into action and protested to Bainbridge Colby, Woodrow Wilson's
Secretary of
State, demanding "Not because of any desire for inflicting punishment,
but for
the sake of example and the establishment of a necessary precedent
this offense
should be followed by a dismissal from the public office of the
offender, and
the public should be informed the reason." Attention is called to the
tone which
the American Jewish Committee adopts when addressing high American
officials in
the name of Jewry. It is not to be duplicated in the addresses of any
other
representative of any other race or faith.

The Plattsburg Manual, published for officers in the United States
officers'
training camps, contained the statement that "the ideal officer is a
Christian
gentleman." The A J.C. at once protested against "Christological
manifestations," and the Manual was changed to read "the ideal officer
is a
courteous gentleman."

The Anti-Defamation Committee claimed that 160 American cities had
excluded
"The Merchant of Venice" from the public schools.

1919-1920. The Kehillah was so successful in its campaign that it
was possible
for a Jewish advertiser in New York to say that he wanted only Jewish
help, but
it was not possible for a non-Jewish advertiser to state his nonJewish
preference.

And so it goes on, year after year, right up to the present day. The
incidents
quoted are typical not occasional. They represent what is transpiring
all the
time in the United States as the Jews pursue their "rights." There is
no
interference with Jewish ways and manners. The Jew may use his own
calendar,
keep his own days, observe his own form of worship, live in his own
ghetto,
exist on a dietary principle all his own, slaughter his cattle in a
manner which
no one who knows about it can approve-he can do all these things
without
molestation, without the slightest question of his right in them. But,
the
non-Jew is the "persecuted one." He must do everything the way the Jew
wants it
done; if not he is infringing on Jewish "rights."

THE INTERNATIONAL JEW by HENRY FORD - Chapter 7

>
>You miss the meaning in His message. He may have argued with the Pharisees
>during His time,..but that was then not now.

The religious leaders of the Jews were the Pharisees. Christ
condemned them in the harshest words.

Matthew 23:33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?"

At the time of Christ some "Jews" believed in Christ and became
Christians. Their descendants are called Christians today. The Jews of
today are descended from the enemies of Christ. The Jews of today
-are- Pharisees.

The New Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by David Bridger, PH.D in
association with Samual Wolk, Rabbi, J.S.D, copyright 1962, Published
by Behrman House, inc.,1261 Broadway, New York 1, N.Y., Library of
Congress Catalog Card Number: 62-17079, says on page 376:

"The Pharisees are therefore regarded as those authorities who helped
develop and preserve traditional Judaism as it is known today."


> Pharisees were a group within
>Jews of which Christ himself was one (Jewish) who were very adherant and
>zealous wrt Hebrew law. As a result,when Christ started preaching it was
>natural for some friction to occur for Christ's full divinity came to pass
>after his crucifixion. Before that event, he was capable of man's anger.
>
>The Pharisees hated the Romans with a passion for a number of well
>documented reasons. Pilate in no way acted on Pharisaic orders, to suggest
>same is the height of absurdity.

Matthew Chapter 27

1: "When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the
people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death."

2: "And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him
to Pontius Pilate the governer."

17:" Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto
them, Whom will I release to you? Barabbas or Jesus which is called
Christ?"

18: "For he knew that for envy they had delivered him."

20: "But the chief preists and elders persuaded the multitude that
they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus."

22: "Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do with Jesus which is
called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified."

23: "And the governer said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they
cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified."

24: "When Pilate saw that he could do nothing, but that rather a
tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the
multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see
ye to it."

25: "Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and
on our children."

> What he did do was to play out an act where
>he attempted to disenfranchise himself from the act of ordering Christ's
>execution by pretending to refer to the Pharisees on the decision.
>The Romans organised and executed every step of the crucifixion.
>
>Christianity as a whole is not demonstrated by the continual denigration of
>any particular group. For the Christian, there are no enemies among the
>peoples of the Earth, just those who don't believe or have faith and those
>who do.
>
>The Pharisees existed for approx 200 yrs, and even if they still were
>present today, the *whole* understanding and faith of Christianity would not
>produce the continual harranging and profanity that far-rightwing
>individuals and organisations professing to be Christian, carry on with
>today.
>

White Sex Slaves
American Dissident Voices Broadcast of October 26, 2002


Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom.

Today I'm going to talk to you about slavery. About slavery of White
women and girls enslaved by Jews. About sexual slavery and all that
that
implies. So this is not a program for children or the overly
sensitive.
You have been warned.

Last week I told you about the horrible rape/torture/murders of Whites
by Blacks in Wichita, Kansas , the Wichita Massacre , which is being
given the silent treatment by the Jewish media. It was mentioned in
the
Moonie-owned Washington Times, and given some inner page paragraphs
here
and there, but it is not a national cause celebre like the racial
epithet uttered in private by a Texaco executive a few years back. And
no major media voice is calling for "hate crime" charges to be filed
in
the Wichita Massacre case. A few months ago a young White man faced
felony "hate crime" charges for merely posting a small sticker
truthfully warning others about the higher HIV infection rates of
Blacks
compared with Whites. But the brutal sex-torture slayings of a whole
houseful of young Whites by Blacks is not a story anywhere near as
important as someone using the n-word. It doesn't call for "hate
crime"
charges, either, but the posting of a sticker carrying CDC AIDS
statistics does. I'd say we were living in an insane world, and I'd be
close to being right. But it's more accurate to say that we are living
in a world in which the Whites have been driven insane by media lies,
media distortions, media omissions, and a false Jewish "morality" that
pervades them all.

The fact that the Jews manufacture "outrage" through media coverage is
well known. The fact that they do everything in their power to
minimize
outrage when the issue is non-White offenses against White should make
you question their motivations. And once you understand their
motivations, you will, like me, start to question their right to own
and
control our media of information and entertainment. You will
understand
that they are a separate people, with separate interests and
oftentimes
opposing interests to ours, and it is extremely dangerous to let this
separate, foreign people have a near-monopoly on the information
transmitted to our people.

Today, I am going to tell you about another crime against White people
which has received very little attention in the mainstream press.
Although a few reporters have mentioned it, it is, like the Wichita
Massacre , not a subject of nightly or weekly reports; it has never
been the subject of a major film or documentary; and the sitcoms and
jiggle shows are never interrupted to report on it. It's not a major
issue as defined by the Michael Eisners and Sumner Redstones of this
world.

And this crime is committed directly against White people by Jews
themselves. It is the crime of slavery, specifically the sex slavery
of
White women captured by Jewish gangs and forced to "serve" in brothels
in Israel and elsewhere. The few articles that do get written about
this
sex slavery almost never refer to Jews as the perpetrators. Instead,
the
Politically Correct euphemisms 'Russian gangs' , 'Russian organized
crime' , and 'Russian mafia' are used. There are hardly any real
Russians involved in these White slavery rings or in so-called
'Russian'
organized crime at all , as the journalists who write these articles
well know. The journalists also well know that if they emphasized the
Jewish nature of these traffickers in White Women that they would
quickly find themselves without employment.

The enticement into sex slavery begins with poverty. Russia and her
former Communist satellites in Eastern Europe were bled dry
economically
by the Jew-created Communist system for many decades. When that system
collapsed, opportunistic capitalists and former
Communists-suddenly-turned-reformers, many of them Jews, moved in for
the easy pickings and bought privatized industries, took advantage of
naīve Whites unaccustomed to predatory business practices, and looted
large sections of Eastern Europe yet again, leaving the people
impoverished, dirt poor, and precariously close to starving, despite
the
fact the Eastern Europeans are among the most highly cultured and
educated White peoples on Earth. To anyone who uses the Internet, it's
notorious that Russians and Ukrainians and Moldovans want to escape
their poverty and leave for the West, young women by the thousands are
advertising themselves for marriage to Western men on dozens of
matchmaker sites. Many breadwinners in those countries earn less than
the equivalent of $30 a month.


So when the well-groomed woman in line at the snowbound railway
station
or the two-line classified ad in the local paper promises thirty or
sixty times that for easy "housework" or "waitress" jobs overseas,
it's
no wonder that these desperately poor women say "yes" by the
thousands.
A large number end up in Israel, where the sex slavery of White women
is
especially common, and seldom even noticed by the authorities who give
it their tacit approval, but the Jewish gangs have worldwide networks
and enslaved White women are sold to Jewish-controlled brothels in
Europe, Turkey, and as far afield as Asia.

Let's listen to the stories of some of these women.

Lara Matveyava had no idea that the kindly stranger who offered her a
way out of poverty was a recruiter for a Jewish White Slave ring. In
her
case, she was promised a job doing easy housework in Germany, watering
the plants and feeding family pets. When she arrived in Hamburg, the
gang followed their usual first step for soon-to-slaves with
passports,
they took the passport from her "for safekeeping," thus making her
technically an illegal alien and outside the normal protection of the
law.

After three days she was told what her real job was: she was to work
as
a prostitute at a Hamburg brothel. Even though she determined at once
to
return home, she was imprisoned for six months at various brothels
masquerading as bars and nightclubs until she finally escaped. Back
home, she says that most of the other sex slaves she met there were so
afraid of their captors that they had given up trying to escape. Even
today, Lara does not use her real name for fear of retaliation from
the
Jewish gangs who "own" her.

She says: "'I'm not scared of anything any more because the worst
thing
that could possibly happen to me already has. Very few of the women I
met had willingly become prostitutes. Most were tricked. Most alarming
was the sense that there was no way out. ?Our passports had been
taken;
?we didn't know what punishment would face us if we went to the
police.
We were illegal immigrants involved in an illegal activity , we didn't
expect any sympathy. To begin with I refused to do the work, but later
I
had to, there was no other way of feeding myself, and by that time I
had seen the beatings other women got when they refused to
co-operate."

The women are told that they have to "work off their debts" before
they
can go free, impossibly high figures that are arbitrarily increased by
their captors as "fines" if they refuse to submit to any sexual
degradation demanded, including gang rape. When one Jewish pimp
decides he needs "fresh goods," the women are sold to others, often
again and again in a single year, with the "debts" they owe the pimps
going up with each transaction. Human rights groups estimate that
500,000 White women have been captured and abused by these Jewish
gangs,
and that number is from Russia alone!

[London Observer Sunday November 12, 2000]

Twenty-one-year-old Irina thought she was going to be a dancer when
she
got off the boat from Ukraine to Haifa, Israel. Within a few days, she
was driven to a whorehouse where her new Jewish boss burned her
passport
before her eyes. "I own you," he said. "You are my property, and you
will work until you earn your way out. Don't try to leave. You have no
papers and you don't speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported.
Then we will get you and bring you back." At first, she refused to be
a
prostitute, but the beatings and repeated rapes by her owners
eventually
broke her spirit.

Irina says "I don't think the man who ruined my life will ever be
fined." Until recently, White slavery wasn't even against the law in
Israel. And it was only under intense international pressure that
Israel
finally passed laws restricting it last year, but prosecutions are
very rare and sentences light. The enslavement of White women is
essentially winked at by the authorities there, who, after all, are
steeped in a tradition that only Jews are truly human beings, and
these
White sex slaves aren't Jews. And pimps prostituting White women to
all
comers, as long as the owners claim the women were not actually
purchased by them, is still legal there.

Marco Buffo, the head of an anti-slavery group in Italy stated "It's
no
secret that the highest prices now go for the white women. They are
the
novelty item now."

Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations of the Ukrainian
Interior Ministry states "Gangsters make more from these women in a
week
than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be
honest, unless we get some help we are not going to stop it." And the
Jewish media are helping to bring these criminals to justice, and get
the Russians and Ukrainians the help and publicity they need, right?

Recently Yitzhak Tyler of the Haifa police spilled the beans on some
of
the operations in that Israeli port city:

"These men pay $500 to $1,000 for a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you
understand what I am telling you? They will buy these women and make a
fortune out of them. Take a small place, with 10 girls. Each has 15 to
20 clients a day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000
shekels a day comes in to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month.
Minimum. So we are talking about 750,000 shekels a month, or about
$215,000. A man often owns five of these places. That's a million
dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It's a factory with slave labor.
And we've got them all over Israel."

A million dollars a month for an average Jew pimp in Israel. What do
the
women get? Beatings, rapes, forced performance of sex on demand, and a
little food and cigarette money. Bars on the windows. Marching naked
in
Jewish slave markets when they're sold again for maybe the fourth time
this year. Gang violence and retaliation on their families if they
escape. Punishment and deportation at best from a complicit legal
system.

The Jewish pimps are so confident of their invulnerability that one of
them, Jacob Golan, owner of three houses of prostitution including Tel
Aviv's "Tropicana," even spoke to the New York Times, stating
"'Israelis
love Russian girls. They are blonde and good-looking and different
from
us,' he said, chuckling as he drew his hand over his black hair 'And
they are desperate. They are ready to do anything for money.' Always
filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
clock.
?There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts,
eight during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and
not just with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their
shoulders, frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
Mr. Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so
voluntarily. He laughed heartily."

In a supreme piece of bitter irony, the reporter noted that Golan has
posted a "missing" poster for an Israeli woman near the front counter
of
his sex club. His concern is so touching, isn't it?

[The New York Times Sunday, January 11, 1998]

The United Nations now admits that the selling of sex slaves is now
organized crime's fastest-growing business. And most of these slaves
are
White women. The Sydney Morning Herald states that White women are
"the
most lucrative commodity of all", surpassing even the international
drug trade in importance. After all, drugs can be sold only once and
then they are used up. White women can be used and then brought to the
slave markets again and again for years until they are dead or no
longer
attractive.

Mariana's story is typical. Lured by promises of easy work and good
money, she left Russia for Israel:


"The brothel routine was brutal and efficient. She worked seven days a
week, servicing up to 20 customers a day, both Jewish and Arab?

"A man stood guard near the door of her room, furnished sparely with a
bed, a dresser, a shower and a sink. She was isolated from the outside
world, except for a woman who stopped each day to sell food to her and
the other Russian girls. Telephone calls home to assure her parents
that
"work" was fine were monitored.

"After about five months, Mariana was allowed to leave the one-storey
grey building with a driver to meet clients at a Tel Aviv hotel. Three
days later, a group of men drugged her in a cabana behind the hotel.

"'Do what we say. Don't kick and don't scream. There's no point in
fighting,' she remembers them saying before they gang-raped her.
Desperate, she tried to escape the brothel but was caught."

The Russian government admits that 100,000 women were smuggled out of
the country by these Jewish gangs in one year alone, making the human
rights groups' estimate of 500,000 enslaved Russian women look very
conservative. And that, I emphasize, is only Russia.

Doros Michael of the Immigrant Support Action Group in Cyprus,
explains
that White women are the most sought-after sex slaves:

"Russian women are thought to be more educated, more beautiful and
more
white than Asian women."
[The Sydney Morning Herald, March 8, 2001]

Amnesty International has issued reports harshly criticizing Israel's
toleration of the sex slave "industry." I wonder whether you have
heard
about that on Fox News or CBS or CNN? Amnesty International stated:

"The government of Israel failed to take appropriate steps to prevent,
investigate, try and punish those responsible for the violations of
human rights committed against traded women." They also cited the case
of 27-year-old Valentina, who said: "The conditions were horrible.
Most
of the girls suffered from venereal diseases. There was nowhere to
run,
there were bars on the windows and guards all the time, day and
night."

Valentina eventually was able to leap from a second-story window,
evade
the Israeli police, and escape to tell her tale. But thousands of
other
White women and girls are still there.

One young Russian woman, Larissa, says that she managed to escape from
her pimp only to be arrested by the Israeli police, who then sold her
to
another pimp who admitted he was a former Israeli police officer.
These
White slaves are without hope and without friends: the few Jews who
oppose this slave trade are outside the power structure in Israel and
White people in the West are grazing contentedly in the pasture of
consumerism, uninformed about White slavery because the Jewish-owned
media don't tell them about it.

At a recent human rights conference sponsored by the World Coalition
Against Trafficking in Women, it was estimated that there are more
than
200 sex slave brothels in Tel Aviv alone. It was also stated:

"When they arrive in Israel they go through an 'educational seminar'
that includes rape and sale by auction, after which their passports
are
taken from them and they are imprisoned in sealed apartments. They are
forced to work in prostitution in order to repay the 'debt' incurred
in
bringing them to Israel."

A few former sex slaves had the courage to speak out:

"I am Ilona. I was sold for $15,000, and a few months later I was sold
once more. They forced me to accept 150 clients a week. Lots of people
knew about me and the other girls. There were taxi drivers and people
from the grocery store who brought alcohol, and also the doctors who
gave us pills against pregnancy, take them all month long, so that we
wouldn't lose any work because of the blood. And the doctors checked
us
after we were beaten and gave us painkillers. But the worst thing
happened with the policemen who knew about me. One time I managed to
run
away and went to the police. They referred me to a policeman who knew
Russian, and I spoke with him and he listened very intently. An hour
after he listened so intently my boss, the pimp, arrived at the
station
and took me home and there he gave me the worst beating, so that all
the
girls would see what happens if you run away. After that, I couldn't
work for a few days."

"I am Yanna. At the airport I was picked up by Ilyosha. I had six or
seven clients a day on Ben-Yehuda, and I made him NIS 600-700 a day. I
got food, cigarettes and NIS 20 a day. After two weeks, he sold me to
Peter and Gershon, and I worked for a month at their massage parlor,
10 or 15 clients a day, NIS 150 for half an hour, and for me, NIS 20
a
day, food and cigarettes. After two months, Peter sent me to another
bar. Whenever I wasn't working I was locked in an apartment, and they
brought me whatever I needed. Peter said that I could go after I had
made $40,000 for him. I had between 7 and 10 clients a day at the bar,
and there I had to earn NIS 700. If I had a slow day, I had to work
harder the next day. They also beat me at the massage parlor, the
employees and the manager."

A charity group that tries to help Russian children and women, and
prevent them from being ensnared by these Jewish White slave rings,
Miramed, estimates that 90 per cent. of the women who leave Russia in
the clutches of these Jews are not aware that they are headed for
prostitution. And I add that none are aware that they will be enslaved
behind bars, forced to satisfy the lusts of their Jewish owners on
demand, and be sold as slaves again and again in Jewish slave markets.

The Jewish media have obsessed for decades about Black slavery in
North
America, a slavery that was abolished by White people and which hasn't
existed for over 130 years. But how often have you heard of the
enslavement of Whites which is going on right now?

I want all of you who hear my voice today to swear in the holy
sanctuary
of your soul that you will never forget what the Jews have done and
are
doing to more than 500,000 of our women and girls. And I want you to
promise me that you will never forget the Jewish media bosses who cry
crocodile tears for months when a Black criminal meets a policeman's
nightstick but who turn a blind eye to the sex slavery of enough White
women to fill Rockford, Illinois three times over. When I say never
forget I mean never trust them again.

Until next week, this is Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you that that
freedom is not free.

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> On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:49:14 GMT, "Jason James"
> <asso...@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hitler was not a Christian.
>
> The National Socialists outlawed abortion.

But continued to practice it.


They outlawed
> homosexual perversion

But continued to practice it.

and feminism. They outlawed pornography


But continued to publish it.

and
> prostitution.

But continued to patronize it.


They removed the race of anti-Christs from controlling
> the media. They rejected both the madness of Communism and the greed
> of Capitalism.


The "non-greedy" bastards made greed into an art-form.


Alex, you are one cracked net-nut.

Patrick Keenan

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> On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:49:14 GMT, "Jason James"
> <asso...@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote:
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>>
>>Hitler was not a Christian.
>
> The National Socialists outlawed abortion.


For certified "Aryans" only. For others, it was sometimes *required*, and
forced sterilization was not uncommon.

Yeah, that's "outlawed".

For "Aryan" females, out-of-wedlock births skyrocketed under the Nazis, and
were encouraged.

But being born live wasn't a guarantee of anything, either. One of
Hitler's own cousins was killed for being "defective".

> They outlawed homosexual perversion

You mean as opposed to the "non-perverse" homosexuality practiced?

> and feminism.

Substituting slavery for it.

Do you really think that Germans were free in any meaningful way under Nazi
rule?

> They outlawed pornography and
> prostitution.

Not exactly. They published pornography on lamp-posts.

> They removed the race of anti-Christs from controlling
> the media.

No, you mean that they took over the media and publicised their own agenda.
And that led to the slaughter of millions and the almost complete
destruction of Germany.

> They rejected both the madness of Communism and the greed
> of Capitalism.

Are you seriously suggesting that Nazi economics had some basis in reality?

>> Hitler didn't read from the Bible.
>
> What a Jewish thing to say.

Factual, you mean?

I know there's no point in asking you to learn anything, since you've
demonstrated that all you can do is cut & paste from your guidebook.

What led you to surrender your brain?

-pk


<snippage>


Topaz

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wrote:

>
>But continued to practice it.

Was that in a Hollywood movie?

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

>


>But continued to practice it.

Was that is a Hollywood movie?


Heinrich Himmler, Reichsfuhrer SS and head
of the Gestapo said in a speech in 1936 on the
subect of homosexuality and execution of Ernst Roehm (which he had
engineered): "Two years ago...when it became necessary, we
did not scruple to strike this plague with death, even within our own
ranks." Himmler closed with these words: "Just as we today have gone
back to
the ancient Germanic view on the question of marriage mixing different
races, so too in our judgement of homosexuality, a symptom of
degeneracy
which could destroy our race, we must return to the guiding Nordic
principle: extermination of degenerates"


>
>But continued to publish it.

Was that is a Hollywood movie?

By Dr. William Pierce
http://www.natvan.com

"The Jews were very influential in Germany after the First World
War. They were strongly entrenched in the legal profession, in
banking,
in advertising and merchandising, in show business, in organized vice,
in publishing and other media. They were trying hard to change the
spirit of Germany. They were pushing modernism in art, music, and
literature. They were pushing for "diversity" and "tolerance." They
were
ridiculing German tradition and culture and morality and the German
sense of personal honor, trying hard to make young Germans believe
that
it was "cool" to be rootless and cosmopolitan. They were promoting the
same culture of lies that they have been promoting here.

That was the so-called "Weimar" period, because right after the First
World War some important government business, including the
ratification
of a new German constitution, took place in the city of Weimar. The
Jews
loved the Weimar period, but it was, in fact, the most degenerate
period
in Germany's history. The Jews, of course, didn't think of it as
degenerate. They thought of it as "modern" and "progressive" and
"cool."
Really, it was a very Jewish period, where lying was considered a
virtue. The Jews were riding high. Many books have been written by
Jews
in America about Weimar Germany, all praising it to the skies and
looking back on it with nostalgia. Even without the so-called
"Holocaust," they never have forgiven the Nazis for bringing an end to
the Weimar period.

There was a Hollywood film made 30 years ago, in 1972, about Weimar
Germany. The film was called Cabaret, and it starred Liza Minelli. It
depicted Berlin night life, with all its degeneracy, including the
flourishing of homosexuality, and also depicted the fight between the
communists and the Jews and the other proponents of modernism on the
one
hand and the Nazis on the other hand. The Hollywood filmmakers, of
course, were solidly on the side of the degenerates and portrayed the
Nazis as the bad guys, but this film is another example of the Jews
outsmarting themselves. The Jews who made the film saw everything from
their viewpoint, through their own eyes, and the degenerate Gentiles
under their spell also saw things from the Jewish viewpoint, but the
Jews apparently didn't stop to think -- or didn't care -- that a
normal,
healthy White person would view things differently. Check it out for
yourself. Cabaret is still available in video stores.

The point I am making is this: In the 1920s, after the First World
War,
the Jews were trying to do to Germany what they began doing to America
after the Second World War, in the 1960s. Many Germans, the healthiest
elements in Germany, resisted the Jews' efforts, just as many
Americans
have resisted the Jews' efforts in America. In Germany the Jews were a
bit premature. Although they had much of the media under their
control,
they didn't control all of the media. They tried to move too fast. The
healthiest Germans resisted and beat them.

In America, in the 1960s, the Jews had almost total media control
before
they began their big push, and they proceeded more carefully. In
America
they are winning. The culture of lies has prevailed in America. It's
still possible for Americans to win, but it's going to be a lot
tougher
this time. We'd better get started. The first step is to regain at
least
partial control of our media, so that we can begin contradicting the
lies. This American Dissident Voices broadcast is a part of that first
step."


>
>But continued to patronize it.

Was that in a Hollwood movie?

>The "non-greedy" bastards made greed into an art-form.


On April 10, 1938 the Germans voted for or against Hitler. 99% of
them voted for Hitler. Here are some quotes from a pamphet urging them
to vote for Hitler:

Do you remember the state of Germany and the German people in the days
before the aged Reich President von Hindenburg chose Adolf Hitler and
his party as the last hope of saving Germany from certain political,
social and economic collapse that would lead to chaos? Tens of
thousands of factories had closed their gates. Millions of workers and
employees lost their jobs and were thrown ruthlessly into the gray
misery of mass unemployment. There seemed no way out...
By the end of 1933, 2 million citizens had jobs again. By September
1936, the number of unemployed had fallen beneath a million. By 1937
unemployment had vanished...
One of the foundations of National Socialism is the knowledge that
only work creates value and prosperity...
But not only the dreadful misery before 1933 reduced the desire of
countless Germans to have children. Crass egotism and materialism also
played a role. The System Era saw having children as foolish and
backward. The transformation that has occurred is clear in the rising
German birth rate...
The National Socialist state gives major tax reductions to fathers for
each child. Families with three or more children receive payments of
10 and 20 marks monthly. By the end of 1937, 510,000 children were
receiving such support...
By the end of 1937, 252,000 mothers had received free vacations...
The Winterhilfswerk is the most beautiful expression of the new German
people's community. It is not the work of a small group of rich
people. No, each German, all of us, rich and poor, manual laborers,
farmers and city-dwellers cooperate in fulfilling the Führer's will:
No German may be hungry or cold!
One does not know whom to admire more: the cheerful willingness of
those who collect, or the rising amount of the gifts, to which even
the poorest contribute their share. The success of the
Winterhilfswerk, written permanently into the law of 1 December 1936,
demonstrates the efforts of the entire German nation. Gifts of money
alone totaled over 920 million marks during the four winters from
1933/34 to 1936/37. An additional 570 million marks of goods were
contributed. 50,000 freight cars alone would have been needed for the
potatoes contributed in the past years. The three million meters of
clothing given out by the WHW would stretch from Berlin to the Middle
East. The two million kilograms of coal would form a wall ten meters
high around all of Germany. These few examples, and more could be
given, prove the strength of the German people's will to be active
socialists..
Another sign of this socialism is the entirely different status of the
German worker in factories. The social honor of each working German is
guaranteed by law. The state's representatives ensure that exploiting
workers is impossible. The legal working conditions correspond to
National Socialism's high opinion of work. Workers have a right to a
vacation and for paid holidays, even hourly and temporary workers.
There is nothing like this elsewhere in the world.
The dignity of labor is evidenced by improvements in the appearance of
the work place. Wherever one looks in Germany, ugly dark buildings are
vanishing. The "Beauty of Labor" movement in today's Germany is not
empty talk or an impossible demand, but living reality. Large sums
that formerly would have been wasted in strikes and lockouts have been
used since 1933 to improve work places. 23,000 places have been
transformed form soulless drudgery to pleasant places to work. 6,000
factory courtyards now offer space for real relaxation, which was not
true in the past. 17,000 canteens and lounges, 13,000 shower and
changing rooms have been transformed. The dirtier the work, the
cleaner the workers. More than 800 community buildings and 1200 sport
facilities , including over 200 swimming pools, have been established.
The crew quarters in over 3500 ships have also been improved.
The NS Society Kraft durch Freude brings cheer and pleasure to
workplaces through concerts and art exhibits. The art exhibits alone
introduced more than 2,5 million workers to the creations of true
German art. Just five years ago, it was obvious that the great works
of German culture belonged to a small group of the upper class.
Besides the factory concerns and art exhibitions, the NS Society Kraft
durch Freude uses theatrical performances, other concerts, singing and
musical groups to introduce the creations of German art to every
working German. 22 million citizens have attended theatrical
performances..
Of no less importance is the KdF's vacation program. Earlier, German
workers did not know what to do with their, at best, five days of
annual vacation. They could not visit the beauties of the German
landscape, much less travel abroad. The NS Society Kraft durch Freude
gave German workers the possibility of vacationing at the beach or in
the mountains, or to explore the homeland. Over 20 million have
participated in KdF trips since 1934. That is more than a quarter of
Germany's population. 19 million citizens participated in 60,000
vacation trips at home. Hand to hand, they would stretch from Berlin
to Tokyo. KdF trains have traveled 2,160,000 kilometers, or 54 times
around the world. The nine large KdF cruise ships have covered a
distance equal to twice the distance from the earth to the moon. They
have carried German workers to Madeira, Italy and Norway, broadening
their horizons and giving them unforgettable experiences. Three
additional ships will be added the KdF's own fleet of four. A KdF
resort is being built on the island of Rügen. It will not be the only
one. A series of other vacation and spa resorts will be built. They
will fulfill the Führer's wishes at the start of the NS Society Kraft
durch Freude: to lead a cheerful, creative and strong people to
success in the world.
The goal of bringing German culture to the entire German people,
regardless of their income, is especially clear with the German radio.
Thanks to the People's Radio Set, a solid, inexpensive and capable
receiver, the number of radio listeners has risen from around 4
million in 1932 to 9.1 million today. The un-German programming of the
System Era has been transformed by National Socialism. Now radio
acquaints the German people with the work of their great masters of
music and literature. Alongside these artistic programs, the
entertaining programming provides for the relaxation of hard-working
people.
Clear proof for the rising prosperity of the German people is provided
by the growing consumption of foodstuffs and luxury items of every
variety. During the prewar year 1913, only a little more than 2.9
million tons of meat were consumed. In 1937, that figure had risen to
3.7 million, up about 5% from 1932. Thanks to the elimination of
unemployment, bread consumption increased by about 10%, sugar by 15%.
Butter consumption rose from 420,000 to 519,000 tons. Milk production,
both for drinking and for making butter and cheese, rose from 23.5 to
25.4 billion liters from 1932 to 1937. Coffee consumption rose from
104,000 to 140,000 tons. Beer consumption has risen from 3.3 to 4.4
billion liters. That is an increase of about 3 billion glasses of
beer...
The growing prosperity and rising consumption of foodstuffs and luxury
items required hard work. A people can only consume what it produces.
In the face of this obvious truth, which however only became clear to
us after 1933, all the parliamentary resolutions, all the decisions of
international conferences and the demands of the international unions
become silly talk. The German people have proved that by our own work.
Germany has worked untiringly since 1933, producing itself the goods
it needs to improve its standard of living.
The rising production in all areas, which has never before been seen,
is the fruit of our work. The foundation of our life is agriculture,
whose task is to guarantee that the nation is fed. When the Führer
took power, agriculture was in a ruinous state. Officers of the court
were regular visitors at German farms. The animals and the harvest
were seized ruthlessly because taxes and interests had risen to
impossible levels that German soil could not meet. Forced auctions
drove tens of thousands of German farmers from their land. Desperation
prevailed in the villages. As a result of the desperate situation,
agriculture could not ensure the feeding of the German nation. The
ghost of hunger threatened.
Here too the Führer set to work immediately. Interest and taxes were
lowered, and the German soil was freed from usurious capital. Between
1927 and 1931, German agricultural debt rose by 2,9 billion marks.
From 1933 to 1936, it fell by 800 million marks. The interest burden,
which was over a billion marks in 1931/32, was reduced by National
Socialist actions to 630 million marks. The crowning achievement was
the creation of the Reich Inherited Farm Law, which guaranteed that
the German family farm will always remain the wellspring of the
nation...
Just as for farmers and agricultural workers, the urban population is
also being cared for. Although more than enough willing and able
workers were available in 1932, and although the housing need was
certainly great, the government put workers on the dole and built only
141,265 dwellings. This was an area in which the need for new jobs was
particularly clear. Even in 1933, the number of new dwellings rose to
178,000, with particular attention being given to small and mid-sized
units for those with limited incomes. This number grew year by year,
reaching 340,000 dwellings in 1937, double the number of 1932. In all,
National Socialist has built more than 1.4 million new, and above all
healthy and affordable, dwellings for the German people since 1933.
This is enough to house the entire population of Berlin...
Growing prosperity and production led to a growth in traffic. The
entirely neglected German highway system had to be repaired and
expanded. 40,000 kilometers of highway have been repaired since 1933.
That is enough to go all the way around the world! Then there are the
Reich Autobahns, the most splendid construction project in the world.
2,000 kilometers were open to traffic by the end of 1937. 1,000
kilometers more will be added yearly, until Germany has a highway
network unique in all the world.
Automobile production has reached a level that no one would have
thought possible a few years ago.
The number of motor vehicles in Germany has doubled, exceeding the 3
million mark in 1937. Thanks to the growing prosperity, broad circles
of our nation can now afford a car. 137,141 of the new vehicles in
1937, well over half, were purchased by workers and employees. 30,015
workers and employees were able to buy a car the previous year. Cars
are becoming both better and cheaper. The increase in cars will be
even more striking when the Volkswagen comes on the market. Enormous
factories are even now being built. The best proof for the quality and
good pricing of German cars is the fact that automobile exports have
increased by a factor of eight since 1932!..
The great improvements in the German transportation system have
resulted in a growing stream of foreign visitors. The pulsing life in
Germany is drawing more and more visitors to the Third Reich. The
number of overnights by foreigners has risen from 2.7 million in 1932
is far above 7 million in 1937. These foreigners, who often come to
Germany with false ideas, see with their own eyes the work of the
Führer and the remarkable efforts of the German people. They return
home as the best witnesses of the greatness and strength of the German
Reich...
The Führer has repeatedly reminded the German people that strong
policies are the absolute prerequisite to our economic, social and
cultural health. Only intentional hostility and stupidity can still
deny that the Führer was right in every respect...

>
>Alex, you are one cracked net-nut.
>

The Jews control your media. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:


"The man who is not opposed and vilified and slandered in the
Jewish Press is not a staunch German and not a true National
Socialist. The best rule whereby the sincerity of his convictions, his
character and strength of will, can be measured is by the hostility
which his name arouses among the mortal enemies of our people.
"The followers of the movement, and indeed the whole nation,
must be reminded again and again of the fact that, through the medium
of his newspapers, the Jew is always spreading falsehood and that if
he tells the truth on some occasions it is only for the purpose of
masking some greater deceit, which turns the apparent truth into a
deliberate falsehood. The Jew is the Great Master of Lies. Falsehood
and duplicity are the weapons with which he fights.
"Every calumny and falsehood published by the Jews are tokens of
honour which can be worn by our comrades. He whom they decry most is
nearest to our hearts and he whom they mortally hate is our best
friend.
"If a comrade of ours opens a Jewish newspaper in the morning
and does not find himself vilified there, then he has spent yesterday
to no account. For if he had achieved something he would be
persecuted, slandered, derided and abused. Those who effectively
combat this mortal enemy of our people, who is at the same time the
enemy of all Aryan peoples and all culture, can only expect to arouse
opposition on the part of this race and become the object of its
slanderous attacks.
"When these truths become part of the flesh and blood, as it
were, of our members, then the movement will be impregnable and
invincible."

" Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with that fact
before my mind.
"The deeper my soundings went the lesser grew my respect for
that
Press which I formerly admired. Its style became still more repellant
and I
was forced to reject its ideas as entirely shallow and superficial.
To
claim that in the presentation of facts and views its attitide was
impartial seemed to me to contain more falsehood than truth. The
writers
were- Jews.
"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me
now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand things
which I
had formerly looked at in a different light."



"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be

secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and


tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

Topaz

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:52:44 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
wrote:

>
>For certified "Aryans" only. For others, it was sometimes *required*, and
>forced sterilization was not uncommon.

Germany was for the Germans. It's good to have other people as
visiters only. And the Jews control your media and everything you
think you know.

>
>Yeah, that's "outlawed".
>
>For "Aryan" females, out-of-wedlock births skyrocketed under the Nazis, and
>were encouraged.

More Jew stories.

"The national government sees as its first and foremost task to
reestablish the spiritual unity of our people. It will preserve and
protect the fundamentals on which our nation rests. It regards
Christainity as the basis of our system of morality, the family as
the
germ cell of the body of the people and the state.."
Adolf Hitler, February 1, 1933

>
>But being born live wasn't a guarantee of anything, either. One of
>Hitler's own cousins was killed for being "defective".

Jew propaganda no doubt.

This speech delivered by Dr. Walter Grob, the head of the Nazi Party's
Office of Racial Policy. He was speaking to a women's meeting at the
Gau Party Rally in Cologne on 13 October 1934. After this speech I
will make my comment on it.
My Dear German Women and Girls!
When Germans come together today to discuss the things that concern us
both as individuals and as a nation, it is a solemn occasion, whether
we wish it to be or not. During the political struggles of the past,
we could speak of party programs or of civilization without any
involvement of our soul.
Now we have forgotten how to approach an issue merely with our
understanding, merely with our mouth, merely with our heart. We have
become whole people once again. When we speak with others, we do so
with our full being.
That is what made the movement strong, and great, and powerful from
its first days. It is also that which the enemy on this side of the
border and the other cannot understand, and which it hates with deadly
strength. As this great and beautiful people's movement began, so too
began a hard and bitter struggle between enemy and German forces,
between an old world that is really long dead and buried, and the new
world that is struggling to reach the light through us. This struggle
has been going on in people's hearts and souls for years, and is
nowhere near its end. The world finds it difficult to understand that
which is at the center of our endeavors:
The value of blood and race.
Our enemies first laughed in pity, then in hatred as we spoke of it.
Let us speak of what we National Socialists mean by that so that it
will become clear why the German woman may be even more concerned
about these matters than the man, his state, and his fighting
organization can be.
There was a time in the past when we were untrue, untrue in the
deepest sense. We were untrue not to other people, or parties, or
states, or kings, but untrue to something far greater, untrue to the
laws of life. As long as the world exists, as long as life grows,
flourishes and perishes, so long will this life have the urge to live
on into the future and win new territory. Whether plant or animal or
man-as we, or I, or you:
wherever there is life, it has the longing to bring forth new life.
It should be unnecessary to speak of such things. We speak of them
only because for a few decades a crazy era ignored, blasphemed and
mocked these greatest, most beautiful and purest dreams of life. This
was an age that made the idol of money supreme and said: "The world
should be governed not be what serves life, rather by what some fool
of an accountant decides is best." We know the results. The great laws
of life were evaluated according to money sacks and checkbooks. When
we think back on our parents, grandparents and great grandparents,
there were many children in the house. It may have been crowded and
hard financially, but we were happy, perhaps because there were so
many of us in so large a family. But the time came when people said:
"As man or woman, as parents or teachers of leaders, you have the duty
to show the people the way to a better future." That better future,
people thought, could only be a richer future, a future in which the
individual had more money. And when they were asked where this money
would come from, a false teaching arose in the last century: "The
fewer people there are, the more an individual child can inherit from
his parents." He who loves his children and wishes a prosperous future
for his nation should therefore see to it that Germany's population is
small, and that only a few children continue the family after he is
gone. That was the terrible teaching of birth control, which Marxism
preached and the bourgeois followed. No one dared stand against it.
That was the doctrine that made us what we are today:
a dying people,
in which fewer children are born each year, in which today more people
die each year than are born. This all was supposed to lead to a happy
future. It understood happiness only in terms of possessions. It was
therefore inherently false. But even in its own terms it was false,
for it forgot something:
When a people begins to die, when a people no longer obeys the laws of
life, when a people values money more than its existence and
posterity, this people is on the path to disaster, both historically
and politically. Within a few decades it will be dead, oppressed by
other peoples who are stronger, closer to life, and who follow life's
laws better than we.
If present trends continue, by the end of the century Germany will be
a nation with only 40-50 million inhabitants,
and we know that on our borders other peoples are growing quickly and
strongly. Sooner or later, these other peoples will come in conflict
with a shrinking and dying German people, and the result of the
supposed doctrine of happiness will be a hard and bitter
national death for our children.
Those who believed that they can give their children a happy and
peaceful future by reducing the number of children err deeply. They
give the children only the promise of a hard and bitter struggle for
Germany's existence as a state and as an idea.
Today when we work to show people that the ideas of yesterday are
false, that the state and nation cannot do without the family, that
the family cannot exist without children, and when we not only provide
economic support to make it easier to begin families and have
children, but also tell people again and again of the sanctity of life
and the necessity of continuing our people into the future, our
enemies on both sides of the border suddenly have insults and hateful
things to say about us. They wish to disturb our work. Suddenly there
are voices saying: "National Socialism's doctrines are inhumane and
barbaric. National Socialism's views on children turn people into
breeding animals. When it says
that it is the duty of men and women to continue the eternal chain of
life, a chain that begins in the distant past and continues into the
future, a chain of which we are only a link leading into the distant
future,
our enemies on both sides of the border claim: "You reject the dignity
and value of humanity. National Socialism holds that men and women
have no value other than that of breeding cattle." It is a shame that
we have to respond to such words, but it is necessary because our
enemies have always tried to persuade women to oppose us, even though
what we say is rooted in the souls of the men and women we speak to.
This is our response: "You are mistaken in accusing us of thinking
that the only purpose of humanity is to continue the species by
passing on our blood to future generations. We know the other values.
We support them and find wherever we can those values that the
individual shows in his work and selfless service. We know well enough
that
each person lives a double life. The first is the one he lives between
birth and death. We are to do as much as we can to make this life
rich, to accomplish that which is good and beautiful, to use our
strengths and gifts for others. That is the duty of the individual.
But as a person you are something more:
You are a member of the chain of life, a drop in the great bloodstream
of your people.
There too you have duties and obligations before the eternity of the
nation. You have the duty to pass on what you received from your
parents and ancestors. I do not believe that such behavior, which
obeys both the laws of reason and of life, is barbaric, hateful or
inhumane. I believe instead that the barbarism is to be found in the
years we have left behind us, when any dirty lout could besmirch the
most valuable, holy life of a man or women in their families, or drag
children through the filth, without anyone defending their culture
against such an attack.
I believe that when we tell people once more of the great value of
blood, and remind them that they have duties not only for the 60-year
span in which they work and serve, but also to the millennia of the
past from which we come and to the millennia of the future to which we
are heading, then we are giving them higher values than those of
yesterday. Let me say also, however, that it is wrong if someone
thinks that only those who found families and bear children are
valuable to our state. We know that is not so. We know there are
reasons why some people leave their people's flow of blood. We know
that some are denied what the nation places great value on. We do not
ignore them or think ourselves their betters. We only say this: "My
friend, you and I must do our duty to our people, and when we cannot
fulfill it in one way, then we must do what we can with even greater
energy and devotion.
When you do your duty, you are one of us,
we extend our hand to you, we honor your humanity and your service for
Germany. Let us work together so that in the future, as many people as
possible will be able to serve the nation in both ways.
That is a piece of the thinking of blood and race that National
Socialism has taught us. And there is another aspect. When we see
people today, we can recognize that we are not all alike. There are
differences in value;
each person does not have the same value as everyone else.
In the past, people believed that these differences were superficial,
the result of the environment in which one grew up. People believed
that what became of a person depended primarily on the house he grew
up in or in his social environment, or the class he came from. They
believed that a person born in a slum, surrounded by shadows, troubles
and poverty, a child lacking in love and affection, could only become
a second-class human being, a physically and psychologically ill
member of the society, someone failed by the society and the state.
One thought that a child growing up in such slum inevitably became
sick, or even criminal. It was because he grew up in such a poor
environment. The Marxists claimed that if every child in Germany grew
up in an environment that gave him all he needed, he would inevitably
become a useful, decent, upright, proud and honest adult. After a few
years or decades, the entire German people would consist of such
decent and useful people. In the past people believed the environment
was responsible even when a person failed miserably.
We recall the days of delirium, when millions of unemployed had been
thrown on the street by a sick political and economic system, made
superfluous. A single person pried the tracks apart and derailed a
train in the middle of the night. Within a minute he murdered 30
innocent people who had never done anything to him, and stole their
money. And what did the world of yesterday say? "He can't help
himself. He is a victim of circumstances. He has Beethoven's hands and
an artistic temperament. We need not put him on the gallows or in
prison to protect us and our children. No, this poor Schlesinger is
only sick because of his environment. Put him in a modern sanitarium,
give him what he needs: radio, a library, a smoking salon, a language
teacher, a pastor, a newspaper room, give him everything he needs to
put him in touch with better things. In a few years, this mass
murderer of 30 people will leave as an ideal human being, so pure and
innocent that one can put him in charge of a kindergarten." That's
what people thought in the past.
Today that seems a bad joke to us, a crazy fantasy, but a few years
ago it was government policy in Germany. Those who did well under such
policies and have joined to fight us think that they can accuse our
doctrines of blood and race as barbaric.
Why do we see things differently? Because we have learned something:
In the end, you are not as important and significant as you thought
yesterday;
your strength and abilities are not as great as you believed during
the liberal era. Oh yes, it was a lovely dream to say: "I will do with
my life what I want, and if I happen to be a teacher, I will teach
what I want, and do what I enjoy, and what I think right." Well, that
was your idea of the environment.
We are a bit more modest, a bit more humble before the laws of fate.
We have learned that what I can do for myself or what you can do for
yourself, or what we can all do to each other, is not as important, or
as deep, as that which a greater power has already done to us. It is
that power that even before our birth gave us a part of our nature,
and laid out our path for us in the world. Here are joined two things:
the knowledge of modern science and the sensitivity and understanding
of a humble person. Suddenly we see that:
What you are, what I am and what I can be in my life is in part
predetermined by that which I have inherited.
If my inheritance is good and strong, and if I am true to it and
develop what is within me, my life will be successful, and perhaps of
benefit and joy to others. If such an inheritance is denied me, or if
for some inexplicable reason fate has given me other, perhaps weak,
perhaps even bad traits, I can struggle against them for my entire
life, and will still not be able to rid myself of that which slumbers
in me because of the actions of a higher power.
We see then that a good part of a people's history is determined by
what it has inherited. If we ask what sorts of physical or
intellectual traits these may be, or what groups there are, we will
see that each people has three groups. The first is a large group of
people with average gifts, the most of us who are able to deal with
the normal problems life presents us with. Next there is a very small
group. This group has received a better inheritance than most of us,
not because of any particular virtue on its part, but simply because
of fate. The leaders of humanity, those who build states, lead people,
or touch the soul, come from this group. And there is a third small
group with particular traits, also not their fault: those who are sick
or genetically defective. They are not up to the challenges of life,
and need outside help to survive.
As humanity of a nation goes through the centuries, the decisive fact
is which of these three groups is the strongest. One might say: "That
is not a question at all. The strongest will win, the group from which
the leaders come. This superior group has to be the strongest in the
end, it must gradually have its way." Well, that is how things would
be without people, if people with their little brains did not believe
that they could change the laws of life given to the world by heaven.
Man has interfered in these matters. He has tried to change the laws
of struggle and existence and selection. Those were ancient laws of
life, to which men too were subject:
That which cannot meet the challenges dies.
That is hard, perhaps, but it is also the way that nature makes life
stronger and better. Man has tried more and more to abolish these
laws. He has kept life going by using artificial means in cases where,
left to itself, it would have ended. He used all his understanding,
love and sympathy to keep a person alive, even when it is no joy, but
only a burden and misery. We now keep thousands, even tens of
thousands of unhappy creatures alive through artificial means, those
to whom life itself has denied the right to life. But keeping them
alive was not itself the problem. What is worse is that they were
given the opportunity to pass on their unfortunate physical and mental
characteristics. That was the worst that happened: we took the
physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically defective criminals
and not only kept them alive and cared for them-that is our duty as
human beings, which we certainly do not want to ignore in the future
either-and gave them the ability to have children with the same
deficiencies, thus doubling or multiplying their misery. The German
people do not know the extent of this misery, it does not know the
depressing spirit of the homes where thousands of cripples live their
lives only by being fed and cared for, poor creatures who are worse
than any animal. The animal at least is as it should be. These poor
creatures are distortions of life, no joy either to themselves or
others. They are a burden throughout their miserable existences, but
thanks to the selfless care and devotion of those who care for them
may live 60, 70 or 80 years. The German people do not realize the
enormous sums that have been spent for decades, money that is taken
from those who are healthy, who could do something useful, but cannot
because the money is lacking.
There was a winter in which children in Bavaria did not even have
wooden shoes to wear as they walked through the snow on their way to
school. They had to walk for hours bare-footed. At the same time, the
government made sure that those unfortunate souls in a large
institution had fresh bananas twice a week so that they got the
necessary vitamins. But these vitamins could not give them joy or
strength or health. But they were thus denied to those somewhere in
the Bavarian forest, or in the Ruhr, or in a poor fishing village on
the Frisian coast, where they could have reduced the poverty and need
in some worker's house. At the same time there was a case where
a single mentally ill Negro of English citizenship lived for 16 years
in an institution in Berlin, costing 26,000 Marks.
26,000 Marks were thrown away on a life that had no meaning. 26,000
Marks that could have been used to prepare a dozen strong, healthy and
gifted children for life and a job.
But I am not speaking of this as a kind of theft. Money is not an end
in itself. Rather, we have here committed a theft of spirit and soul,
because we tried to persuade the nation and humanity that our own
greatness could come from sacrificing for the worst and most helpless.
In the end, we went so far as
to put the sick and the dying before the young, strong, healthy and
promising.
That is against nature and life. A nation going this way is heading
for the abyss. We went so far as to preach year after year to healthy
families that they should have no children, or at most one, else they
sinned against the nation and the spirit of this enlightened age. But
if some imbecile of a whore and a genetically ill criminal had
children, they were not only a financial burden for their entire
lives, but also took the labor of people who our society gave nothing
better to do than to change these poor creatures three times a day and
feed them. That is a perversion of everything great and healthy, and
is a sin against life and the spirit of creation.
With full knowledge of our duties as human beings and the requirements
of pity, we made the decision not to allow such miserable creatures to
pass on their misery to the next generation, multiplied perhaps two or
three or more times. That is a major accomplishment, for which our
children and their children will one day thank us.
I know that there are those who will say: "You are meddling in matters
that are not your concern. You are interfering in an area outside
human control. Life and death are not in the hands of man, but in
those of a higher power. If God wants sick and genetically ill people
to be born, you may not interfere through laws, operations, or any
other measures with God's will. And if you do so-and you have with
your Law to Prevent Inherited Illness-then you are acting against the
will of God, and you are heretics."
This is our answer: "My friend, you are wrong. It is true that we are
subject to a higher power. We humans may never interfere with the
great laws of the Creator. But you are wrong. See the laws the Creator
has established for his world and your life. The great law is that
life must be able to preserve itself, and that if it cannot, it will
collapse. It is the hard, brutal law of the struggle for existence and
of selection and extinction. It was the law we saw day by day, hour by
hour, under all the clouds of heaven and all the stars of the sky, in
which life seemed to find a senseless death, whether plant or animal
or person, whether in distant Africa or near us.
That which cannot meet the challenges of life dies, no matter how much
pain it causes,
and even if your small understanding or mind cannot comprehend it,
these are the great laws of life and the world that God himself gave
us. These are the laws, my German friend, that in our crazy fantasies
we broke in the past."
With overweening human pride and false pity, we broke the great law
and kept those alive who under the laws of God would long since have
perished.
Today we are once more following these old laws, using humane methods,
for they follow a more hard and brutal course in nature according to
God's will. We are doing nothing more than reestablishing the laws of
creation, and bowing to the heavenly order. We are thus showing piety
and true humility-you are the heretics.
This applies as well to the third and last principle of our racial
thinking. This third and last principle is that the people on this
world, in America, Africa or China, are different both in body and
soul. They are not equal, as yesterday's lie had it.
People are different.
They not only speak different languages and look different: no, they
are different in the depths of their hearts and natures, and in their
abilities for good and evil. In the past people believed that these
differences were accidental, the result of climate or civilization,
and that one could overcome these differences and create a unified man
in a unified state in which all would be equally happy. We have
learned that such ideas are false. We have learned that the
differences between the major blood groups of the world, between the
major races, are not the result of human action, but of the laws of
Creation. We have learned that the lines between blood and blood, race
and race, are also the lines between soul and soul and spirit and
spirit. We have learned that the opposite of the old phrase "What God
has brought together, let no man put asunder" is also true. We have
learned:
What God has separated, man should not bring together.
Heaven thought it good not to have only one type of people on the
earth, but different kinds, various racially-bound peoples. That is a
part of Creation. We bow before this truth and respect the borders.
That means that the foundation of our separation of the races is not a
matter of politics or economics, rather it rests on a higher level, to
which we in the end are responsible.
In our Reich, we are separating that which belongs to us, because it
is blood of our blood, from that which does not belong to us, because
it is foreign. We are doing that which is right not only for the
moment, but for eternity.
Believe me, my dear German fellow citizens, it is not true, as some
say, that this doctrine is a sign of arrogance or superiority or
boasting. We do not think ourselves better than the other races on the
earth. No, we do not think ourselves better, nor do we believe that
others are worse than we are. We insist only on one thing-a law
established by the Creator himself:
Man differs from man and race from race in this world.
The others may not be better or worse, but they are different than we
are, and because they are different than we are, there is a kind of
wall between us that is part of the laws of life. That is the core of
National Socialism's racial thinking. Our goal is not to insult
others, to say: "What a great guy I am!" Rather, we hold to the humble
recognition that each healthy piece of life has its corner of the
world, and its special tasks. This is just as true of humans as it is
of plants and animals in all their multiplicity. We know that one type
is no more valuable than another. But we also know that each variety
of life has a right to existence only as long as it keeps itself pure
and strong. Only when a tree bears the proper fruit does it have a
right to live. Otherwise it will be cut down and destroyed. We do not
know why things are the way they are, and it would be foolish to ask
the reason. That is how things are. Our task is to humbly accept the
laws that govern our human existence, and to accept the fact that we
are born Germans in Germany, not as Chinese or Eskimos. That is not
because of our virtues, nor it is our fault, nor was it our will. It
was fate that came from above. We have no choice but to accept this
fate and to develop the abilities that fate has given us according to
necessity and law.
Others may develop in their own way, in their own land. We must listen
to the depths of our own people, to draw from blood and inheritance
the strength we need to build our homeland. A higher power will take
care of the life beyond.
I believe, my dear German fellow citizens, that everyone who is of our
spirit will grant the correctness of our thinking about blood and
race, and will say: "I see now that you are not only on the right
path, but are honest and in the deepest sense true to demands that are
greater than the laws of man."
Let us then together follow the path to a new worldview. Let us go the
path of blood and race, which does not ignore faith and knowledge and
a sense of higher powers. Let us go this path, not a path of matter,
superstition and heresy, rather a path of deep humility and piety
before the laws of God. Let us go along this path together and listen
to the deepest depths where blood and soul rule. Let us draw from
there the strength to build the state, and even more important the
Reich. It will be a Reich not only of politics, a Reich of
organization, or the economy, but a Reich of people. Germany today has
the fortune to find a new way, led by a great Fuehrer. German women
today have the good fortune to see a strong and loyal woman at their
head. Let us together go forward, hand in hand, as befits comrades
building the future, and let us join the strength of men and women,
rooted deep in their blood, to build what the world has never before
seen:
The holy Reich of the German soul.
Heil!

My comment:

In the past there was survival of the fittest and humans evolved
into higher beings with that. But it was a cruel world. Notice in the
above speech that he did say:

"we took the physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically
defective criminals and not only kept them alive and cared for
them-that is our duty as human beings, which we certainly do not want
to ignore in the future either"

Survival of the fittest should be replaced by sterilization. We would
still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.

We should take care for those who need help and many work hours
would be done to provide for them, and all we ask in return is for
them not to pass their misfortune onto more generations. We are not
asking too much at all.

It was a great speech. These policies that would make a nation
unimaginably great, a heaven on earth. Heil Hitler.


>
>> They outlawed homosexual perversion
>
>You mean as opposed to the "non-perverse" homosexuality practiced?

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
Jew lie.


Heinrich Himmler, Reichsfuhrer SS and head
of the Gestapo said in a speech in 1936 on the
subect of homosexuality and execution of Ernst Roehm (which he had
engineered): "Two years ago...when it became necessary, we
did not scruple to strike this plague with death, even within our own
ranks." Himmler closed with these words: "Just as we today have gone
back to
the ancient Germanic view on the question of marriage mixing different
races, so too in our judgement of homosexuality, a symptom of
degeneracy
which could destroy our race, we must return to the guiding Nordic
principle: extermination of degenerates"
>

>> and feminism.
>
>Substituting slavery for it.

Typical Jew propaganda.

Here are some quotes from the account of the women's rally at the 1936
Nuremberg Rally, taken from the official party proceedings. The
speakers were Gertrud Scholz-Klink, the head of the Nazi women's
league, and Hitler himself, who outlines the Nazi view of the role of
women.
The enormous hall was filled two hours before the meeting began. Many
thousands of women were unable to enter, and gathered outside to hear
the proceedings over loudspeakers. The leaders of the women's labor
service and those of the League of German Girls took their places on
the platform, and the officials of the NS Women's League and the
German Women's Work filled the seats. To the side one could see
numerous representatives of German women's groups from abroad in
colorful and elaborate costumes. The farmers among the participants
also wore their beautiful traditional costumes. After a piece by the
Reich Symphony Orchestra, Hilgenfeldt opened the meeting and greeted
the participants and foreign guests in the name of the National
Women's Leader. The 20,000 women rose to sing "Our Fate was to be a
Free People."

Speech by Gertrud Scholz-Klink:

"The Soviet Union declared the legal equality of men and women in all
areas in a law of 18 November 1918. That meant the same right to work,
the same duty to support oneself, the right of control over one's own
body, which for the woman meant the right to abortion. The view was
that men and women had full freedom only when the state stayed as far
as possible form personal relationships. The state provided no legal
rights in marriage, which meant that there were only two forms of
marriage. One could register a marriage before a government office, or
one could be married without virtue of state ceremony.
The result was that, even when one had been married officially, the
individual partners had the right when they were unhappy to go to the
same office and, for a very small fee, dissolve the marriage. Should
there be children, they would be housed in collective homes, since
both father and mother worked and housing was in short supply, given
the migration from the countryside to the cities. The absence of
resources in such homes led of necessity to demanding money from the
economically stronger partner. The result was constant legal battles
and enormous misery for the children.
Simultaneously, women were increasingly absorbed in industry and the
military. In 1918, 24 of every 1000 miners were women. By 1932, 153 of
1000 were women, a number that had grown to 321 by 1935! In automobile
and tractor manufacturing, women are 30.4% of the work force, 63.5% of
the drilling industry.
The full equality of the sexes had the further result that girls are
given the same military training as boys in the communist youth
organization and schools. The Red Army is the only army in the world
in which both men and women are trained as soldiers and officers to
wage aggressive wars...
We Germans had 14 years under an attempt to impose Bolshevist
principles on us. The German woman took her place alongside the German
man when she realized that a struggle was going on between God's order
for earthly affairs and universal apostles of humanity who wanted to
replace these eternal laws. It was a battle between good and evil.
Good and evil are equally strong forces in life. They find visible
form in National Socialism and Bolshevism. National Socialism is good
become visible for we Germans. It respects the earth from which our
people have grown. Bolshevism is absolute evil because it is a
universal approach that rejects the eternal laws of nature. "Good" and
"evil" have never stood in such stark contrast before all the world as
they do today in these two forces...
Our work is to spread this idea. It is nothing other than a daily
struggle between these two forces. It is not ultimately a battle of
means or of money, that is of perishable things, rather it is ennobled
by the spirit in whose service we stand: In the battle between good
and evil, we are the obedient servants of the good."
Speech by Adolf Hitler:
Those abroad may say 'That is fine for the men! But your women cannot
be optimistic. They are oppressed and dominated and enslaved. You give
them no freedom of equality." We answer: What you see as a yoke others
see as a blessing. What is heaven to one is hell for another...
As long as we have sound men-and we National Socialists will see to
that-there will be no women throwing hand grenades in Germany, no
women sharp-shooters. That is not equality for women, rather their
debasement...
Women have boundless opportunities to work. For us the woman has
always been the loyal companion of the man in work and life. People
often tell me: You want to drive women out of the professions. No, I
only want to make it possible for her to found her own family and to
have children, for that is how she can best serve our people!...
If a woman jurist does the best possible work, but next to her lives a
woman who has given birth to five, six or seven healthy children who
are well educated, I would say the following: From the standpoint of
the eternal values of our people, the woman who has borne and raised
children has done more, given more, accomplished more for the future
of our people!...
Real leadership has the duty to enable every man and woman to fulfill
their dreams, or at least to make it easier for them to do so. We seek
this goal through laws that encourage the healthy education of
children. But we have done more than simply pass laws. We are
educating for German women and girls a manly youth, the men of
tomorrow!"
"I believe we have found the right way to educate a healthy youth. Let
me say this to all the literary know-it-alls and philosophers of
equality: (laughter) Do not deceive yourselves! There are two separate
arenas in the life of a nation": that of men and that of women. Nature
has rightly ordained that men head the family and are burdened with
the task of protecting their people, the community. The world of the
woman, when she is fortunate, is her family, her husband, her
children, her home. From there she can see the whole. The two arenas
together join to form a community that enables a people to survive. We
want to build a common world of both sexes in which each sees its own
tasks, tasks that it alone can do and therefore can and must do
alone."
"When I see this wonderful growing youth, my work becomes easy, I
overcome every weakness. Then I know why I do everything. It is not to
build some miserable business that will perish, rather this work is
for something lasting and eternal. A vital part of this future is the
German girl, the German woman, the German woman, and thus we meet the
girl, the woman, the mother."
"I do not measure the success of our work by our roads. I do not
measure it by our new factories, or our new bridges, or the new
divisions. Rather, I measure our success by the effect we have on the
German child, the German youth. If they succeed, I know our people
will not perish and our work will not have been in vain."
"I am convinced that no one understands our work better than the
German woman. (long-lasting, jubilant applause) Our opponents think
that Germany has tyrannized women. I can only reply that without the
support and true devotion of the women of the party, I could never
have led the movement to victory." (renewed enthusiastic applause)
The Reich Women's Leader thanked the Führer after the jubilation at
the end of his speech had calmed down. In the name of all German
women, she promised to work hard to ease his concerns. Not only the
Reich Women's Leader's words, but also the jubilation of the crowd
followed the Führer as he left the hall.

>
>Do you really think that Germans were free in any meaningful way under Nazi
>rule?

Of course. Good people were free to do anything they wanted. They
put the evil scum in their place and we can only say Heil Hitler to
that.

>
>Not exactly. They published pornography on lamp-posts.

What Jew propaganda are you referring to now?

>


>> They removed the race of anti-Christs from controlling
>> the media.
>
>No, you mean that they took over the media and publicised their own agenda.

They took it over from the lying Jews. Here are some quotes from
Mein Kampf:


"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be

secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and


tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."

>And that led to the slaughter of millions

Andrew Roth, a Jew.

John Service, a gentile.

Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown

Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.

> and the almost complete
>destruction of Germany.

Dr Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff, 21 January 1929.

The Jew
by Joseph Goebbels

Everything is discussed openly in Germany, and every German claims the
right to have an opinion on any and all questions. One is Catholic,
the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a
capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing
dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question.
Discussions happen in public, and where matters are unclear or
confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is
one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate
even to mention: the Jewish question. It is taboo in our republic.
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a
scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like
water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at
how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've
been found out."
One cannot defend himself against the Jew. He attacks with lightening
speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any
attempt at defense.
Quickly he turns the attacker's charges back on him, and the attacker
becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be
more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants.
He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the
result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he
has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack. The accused
has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the
dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought
the Jew. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully
aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the
following radical conclusions:
1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and
this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will
forever corrupt it.
2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can
hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest
opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and
nobility only to trap his enemy.
4. The Jew has nothing to say about German questions. He is a
foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights
that he always abuses.
5. The so-called religious morality of the Jews is no morality at all,
rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to
protection from the state.
6. The Jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and
craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically-he follows
entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken
through political means.
7. A Jew cannot insult a German. Jewish slanders are but badges of
honor for a German opponent of the Jews.
8. The more a German person or a German movement opposes the Jew, the
more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a
sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who
is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a
result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism. He who defends the
Jews harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey or a Jewish
opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene.
These principles give the anti-Jewish movement a chance of success.
Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the Jews, only such a
movement will be feared by them.
The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore
is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we
are constantly attacked in the Jewish gazettes. They may shout about
terror. We answer with Mussolini's familiar words: "Terror? Never! It
is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just
as a doctor does to a bacterium.

>
>Are you seriously suggesting that Nazi economics had some basis in reality?

Yes, and everything you "think" is Jew lies.

Douglas Reed wrote:

"Germans in their country are not less well cared for than the
English in theirs, but better. You are faced with a country immensely
strong in arms and immensely strong in real wealth - not in gold bars
in a vault of the national bank, but industry, agriculture, the thrift
and energy of the work people, the conditions of life they enjoy.
Their engineers and social workers and artists go into the
factories and see what needs to be done. They say that a shower room,
recreation room, a restaurant, a medical clinic, a dental clinic is
needed and these are provided. They have a civic sense, a social
conscience, a feeling of the community of German mankind which you
lack."

About Douglas Reed:

"I have dealt with the once world famous foreign correspondent and
author, Douglas Reed, who went from being widely known and respected
before, during and after the II.nd World War to becoming an expelled
and completely forgotten person.
Why was he "forgotten"?
It was simply because he wrote about "The Jewish Question!"
International Jewry responded to his frank description of the problem
with total censorship, so that his new books could no longer be
printed and the old ones would disappear gradually from the bookstores
and even from the library shelves.
After a short period of slandering he was no longer mentioned at all
in the world's media.
As the author Ivor Benson (who has himself written a book on this
subject: The Zionist Factor) says in the foreword to Douglas Reeds
masterpiece The Controversy of Zion, which had to wait 22 years before
it could be published, "the adversity, which Reed encountered, would
have made a lesser personality give up. But not he"."
Knud Eriksen


>
>>> Hitler didn't read from the Bible.
>>
>> What a Jewish thing to say.
>
>Factual, you mean?

No, I meant that it was a Jewish think to say.

>
>I know there's no point in asking you to learn anything, since you've
>demonstrated that all you can do is cut & paste from your guidebook.
>
>What led you to surrender your brain?
>

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
lie.

I heard Izzy Asper died so the following article is outdated. But it
still gives a lot of insight
on Canada.

"As you may be aware, the mass media in
Canada are as much under Jewish control as in the United States. The
undisputed top media mogul in Canada is Israel Asper, who is commonly
known by his nickname "Izzy." With his sons Leonard and David and
other family members, Izzy Asper owns CanWest Global Communications
Corporation.

A Gentile, Conrad Black, also used to be a major player in the
Canadian media, but a little over a year ago Black's Southam News,
Inc., was bought out by Izzy. CanWest now owns more than 60 per cent
of Canada's newspapers and other media outlets. That's more than 60
per cent of all of Canada's mass media in the hands of one Jew.
Included are 14 metropolitan dailies and 128 local newspapers across
the country, including the Vancouver Sun, the Vancouver Province, the
Calgary Herald, and the Montreal Gazette. CanWest also owns the
National Post, which is distributed throughout Canada. In addition
Izzy owns media in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and
Northern Ireland.

Last month Izzy issued a written directive to his newspapers,
instructing them that from now on they must print nothing critical of
Israel or of Israeli actions or policies. This is a rare thing.
Usually directives of this sort are oral only, and great care is taken
to keep them from coming to the attention of the public. But Izzy,
with even more brass than is customary for his tribe, made his
directive public. He announced that, beginning three weeks ago,
December 12, the editorial content of all of his newspapers would be
homogenized, and they all would be pro-Israel.

Now here's the interesting part: if all of Izzy's Gentile underlings
were simply corrupt -- were simply paid mercenaries who wrote what
they were told to write -- then there would be no controversy; all of
the local editors and reporters and columnists simply would follow
orders. But there is a controversy. A group of reporters and writers
at the Montreal Gazette have rebelled, at least for the moment. One of
them, Bill Marsden, an investigative reporter, revealed on a Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation radio program called "As It Happens" that his
editor at the Gazette had instructed him never to report anything that
might reflect badly on Israel. Paraphrasing Izzy's directive, Marsden
said, and I quote: "We do not run in our newspaper op-ed pieces that
express criticism of Israel and what it is doing in the Middle East."
--end of quote -- Marsden and 54 other reporters at the Montreal
Gazette went on strike in protest at what they describe as undue
corporate interference with freedom of the press.

Their strike has infuriated Izzy. Izzy's son David characterized the
striking reporters as "childish" and "self-righteous." He said, and I
quote: "Why don't they just quit and have the courage of their
convictions? Maybe they should go out and, for the first time in their
lives, take a risk, put their money where their mouth is, and start
their own newspaper." -- end of quote --

How's that for chutzpah, as the Jews like to call it? One can read in
David Asper's reaction to the reporters the thought, "How dare these
mere Gentiles, these mere goyim, question what we, God's Chosen
People, decide should be the party line for Canada's newspapers! How
dare they!" I mean it's not just that Izzy owns the Montreal Gazette,
and so he is entitled to set the editorial policy, and other
newspapers can set different policies. Izzy thinks that he is entitled
to set the editorial policy for all of Canada's newspapers and
determine what all Canadians think.

The man chosen by the Aspers to write the editorials for all of their
newspapers is Murdoch Davis. When asked by "As It Happens" whether or
not one of CanWest's newspapers would be permitted to buck the party
line on Israel, Davis replied, and I quote: "No. It is clearly the
intent that the newspapers will speak with one voice on certain issues
of overarching national or international importance." -- end of quote
-- When asked specifically whether or not one of the Asper newspapers
would be permitted to raise the question of Israel's long-standing
violation of international law and its defiance of UN resolutions
calling for withdrawal from illegally occupied Palestinian territory,
Davis again responded in the negative.

So that's the present situation with freedom of the press in Canada:
not really very different from the situation in the United States. So
what about the mentality of journalists? The fact that the reporters
at the Montreal Gazette are protesting Izzy's directive that they can
report nothing negative about Israel indicates that they are not
entirely mercenary. To me, however, it does not indicate that they are
independent thinkers. I believe that they are as much lemmings as the
dullest couch potato or sports fan. What caused their protest was the
arrogant and contemptuous way in which the Aspers went about
reconciling two conflicting elements in the Jewish party line.

On the one hand journalists have been taught that the United Nations
is a splendid and admirable organization, whose resolutions should be
obeyed. They also have been taught that all races and ethnic groups
are equal -- in fact, essentially the same -- but that racial
minorities and underdogs generally deserve our special sympathy, and
that in any conflict with a ruling group the underdogs are in the
right. That's standard liberal dogma. You have to believe that in
order to be a journalist. On the other hand, journalists have been
taught that Jews are wonderful people who can do no wrong, and that to
think otherwise is anti-Semitism, which is as bad as or worse than
racism. It's hard enough reconciling the elevated status of Jews with
the concept of racial and ethnic equality, but most journalists by
working at it are able to do it -- except where the conflict between
Jews and Palestinians is concerned. That requires a special effort and
really careful handling by their Jewish bosses. How do you explain to
a journalist who already believes all of the liberal dogma that if
Iraq ignores a UN resolution it should be bombed into the Stone Age
and then starved into submission with a rigid trade embargo, but if
Israel ignores 14 UN resolutions we should respond by sending the
Israelis more military and economic aid?

How do you explain to a journalist who has been taught that when South
Africa used to be a White country and practiced apartheid, and the
South African police sometimes beat information out of captured Black
terrorists, it was a terrible thing and had to be condemned in the
strongest terms, but when Israel practices apartheid, assassinates
Palestinian leaders, and tortures Palestinian prisoners, nothing
should be said about it?

How do you explain to a journalist that it is an intolerable threat to
the security of the world if some Muslim country develops weapons of
mass destruction, and the United States is justified in a preemptive
strike to destroy the weapons production facilities, but when a
psychotic little country like Israel builds an arsenal of chemical,
nuclear, and biological weapons, using materials and technology stolen
from us, it's OK, and we should ignore it?

How do you explain to a journalist steeped in the tenets of feminism
that he shouldn't say anything about Israel's booming slave trade in
girls and women kidnapped from eastern Europe and forced to work as
sex slaves?

How do you explain to a journalist who believes wholeheartedly in
egalitarianism that it's perhaps regrettable but certainly excusable
when Jews rocket Palestinian villages and use Palestinian children for
target practice, but it's "terrorism" and completely unjustifiable
when the Palestinians hit back?

Believe me, explaining these things is tricky, but it can be done, if
it's done with patience and care. It can be done, because when it
comes to matters of faith, a lemming really isn't rational. He's quite
capable of believing two mutually contradictory things at the same
time. The problem that brought on the mini-rebellion at the Montreal
Gazette is that Izzy wasn't patient and careful. He was arrogant and
contemptuous of his Gentile reporters. But they'll get over it, I'm
sure. They always do. They're lemmings.

But, as I said, what is happening now in Canada is interesting. It
gives us insight into the workings of journalists' minds, and it also
brings out into the open not only the monopoly Jewish control of the
Canadian mass media but also the way in which that control is used to
slant the news and Canadian public opinion so as to serve Jewish
interests to the detriment of Canadian interests.

Do you think that any of these revelations will be of benefit to
Canadians? Will the average Canadian say, "Oh, my goodness! I didn't
realize that one man, and a Jew at that, controls more than 60 per
cent of all the mass media in Canada and is using that control to
deceive Canadians as to what is happening in the Middle East. That's
terrible! We'd better have our lawmakers do something to break up this
media monopoly, so that we will have a better chance to learn the
truth about what's happening in the world when we read a newspaper or
watch a television news program."

What do you think? I think that about 98 per cent of Canadians won't
even look up from their ball games. I think that there's not a
politician in Canada who will dare go up against Izzy Asper. This
whole tempest at the Montreal Gazette will blow over in a few days,
and all of Izzy's newspapers and other media will toe the party line
as if nothing had happened.

And now I'm talking only to the two or three or four per cent of
Canadians -- and also to the two or three or four per cent of
Americans -- who aren't so absorbed in their ball games that they
don't notice things like this and don't really care either. I'm
talking to the small portion of the White population in both countries
-- and in fact, in countries around the world -- who do notice and do
care. I want you to understand that this is the way nations lose their
freedom. More than that, this is the way races become extinct.

The majority of the population in Canada and the United States and in
every country in Europe consists of lemmings, who always have been
manipulated by whoever is in power. For approximately the last 100
years the power to manipulate the thinking of the lemmings -- of the
masses, if you prefer -- has been shifting from the authority figures
in the government and in the churches to the people who control the
mass media. These days the people who control the media also control
the government for all practical purposes, and the churches have
become irrelevant, which is why the Canadian government won't try to
break up Izzy's media monopoly and why the politicians in the United
States will never go beyond pretending to be concerned about too much
sex and violence on television when they have a mock fight with the
media.

Controlling a country's mass media doesn't mean just being able to
exert a decisive influence on a country's foreign policy, as Izzy
Asper is doing in Canada, and as his fellow Jews long have done in the
United States. It doesn't mean just getting a country involved in
unnecessary wars and subjecting its citizens to retaliatory terrorist
attacks. It means influencing immigration policy. It means influencing
educational policy. It means influencing social policy. It means being
able to control the way most of a country's people think about
everything: about race and morality and lifestyles and other countries
and freedom and the meaning of life. Most of the degenerative changes
that have taken place in America and in Canada since the Second World
War have been consequences of Jewish media influence. As that
influence continues to grow, the chances of our people being able to
throw off the yoke and regain control of our own destiny become
smaller and smaller.

In Canada at the moment, Izzy Asper's surfeit of chutzpah has brought
to the attention of the public -- that is to the attention of that
small portion of the public that cares about such things -- his
monopoly control of Canada's mass media and his intent to use those
media for Jewish propaganda purposes. Light has been cast on this
grave situation because most journalists are lemmings, and a few of
them are chattering excitedly now about things such as "freedom of the
press." Really, the whole debate is silly. Canada had no freedom of
the press even before Izzy got his greedy hands on most of Canada's
newspapers. For years it has been illegal in Canada to publish
anything considered "racist" or "anti-Semitic" or even Politically
Incorrect. When a Canadian buys copies of any of my books and they are
mailed to him, the Canadian secret police confiscate them at the
border. Publicly challenging the details of the Jewish "Holocaust"
story can result in a prison term for a Canadian. Canada's journalists
thought all of that -- stopping "hate," as they called it -- was just
fine. Pretty soon they will realize that requiring all mass media to
say only nice things about what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians
is also part of the noble effort to stop "hate," and that also will be
just fine with them.

We can't change the nature of lemmings. Someone always will manipulate
them. What is of the utmost importance is who it is that manipulates
them, because whoever that is will determine the course taken by the
whole society, by the nation, by the race. In the past, when it was a
king or a pope or a dictator who set the party line, many mistakes
were made, sometimes due to selfishness or irresponsibility, sometimes
due to ignorance or carelessness or stupidity or prejudice. But at
least the people setting the party line for the masses were our
people, members of our own race. Now, increasingly, the arbiters of
the party line are Jews or people wholly under Jewish influence. And
the Jews, as always, are looking out only for their own interests, not
for ours. To them we are merely tools to be used in advancing their
interests.

And that's at best. At worst they are pursuing policies intended not
only to advance their interests, but also to destroy us. Don't try to
debate this matter with the Jews; they will, of course, deny it. Just
look at the policies they have been pushing for the past 50 years and
where those policies have been taking us. Just consider the facts, not
their specious arguments designed to keep you demoralized and
non-resisting.

My fellow Americans and my fellow Canadians: we are in a bad
situation. Let us stop ignoring it. Let us begin deciding what we're
going to do about it. I'm doing what I can do in speaking out about it
and getting others to speak out. You must decide what you are able and
willing to do and then begin doing it.

Thanks for being with me again today."

The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books.

It is distributed by e-mail each Saturday to subscribers of ADVlist.

Kenneth McVay OBC

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Yet another anti-White moron rears his hate-filled head out of the
slime....

"The Jews control the media!"
"The Jews control the media!"
"The Jews control the media!"

..... but what this foolish mantra is really saying is this:

"White people are too stupid to think for themselves."
"White people are too stupid to acquire capital, or invest in the media."

The same morons who content that White people are near-terminal in
their stupidity, and completely incapable of using their minds, also
reinforce this hatemongering hysteria by insisting that

"The Jews control the government!"
"The Jews control the government!"
"The Jews control the government!"

.... which is, of course, clear evidence that they also believe that

"White people are too stupid to govern themselves!"

.... having already told White folks that they're too stupid to think
for themselves, or govern themselves, they feel compelled to add
insult to injury by insisting that

"The Jews control the monetary system!"
"The Jews control the monetary system!"
"The Jews control the monetary system!"

.... which means, it is obvious, that

"White people are too stupid to manage their own money!"

As if these things were not enough, these "white racialists" that
"love White people" also say:

"The Holocaust is a hoax!"
"The Holocaust is a hoax!"
"The Holocaust is a hoax!"

.... which means that they believe a people who represent less than 2%
of the entire world's population have duped not only every _white_ person
in the world, but indeed every _other_ person as well! How's _that_
for "You folks are REALLY stupid"?

.... and yet the authors of these gratuitous racial slurs continue to
insist ("nudge nudge, wink wink...") that they are "advocates for
White people!

Go figger.

--
"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org

Patrick Keenan

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"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:52:44 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>For certified "Aryans" only. For others, it was sometimes *required*,
>>and
>>forced sterilization was not uncommon.
>
> Germany was for the Germans. It's good to have other people as
> visiters only.

So you think it's OK to sterilize visitors?

They sterilized citizens, who are by definition Germans.

> And the Jews control your media and everything you
> think you know.

No, they do not. And unlike you, I can do far more than reflexively
respond with cut & paste.

>>
>>Yeah, that's "outlawed".
>>
>>For "Aryan" females, out-of-wedlock births skyrocketed under the Nazis,
>>and
>>were encouraged.
>
> More Jew stories.

No, it isn't. You'd know this if you actually knew the history.

There weren't enough males around for marriages, as the Nazis had shipped
them off to various fronts, so the Nazis encouraged out-of-wedlock
pregnancies.


> "The national government sees as its first and foremost task to
> reestablish the spiritual unity of our people. It will preserve and
> protect the fundamentals on which our nation rests. It regards
> Christainity as the basis of our system of morality, the family as
> the
> germ cell of the body of the people and the state.."
> Adolf Hitler, February 1, 1933

So, why did the Nazis discontinue all religious education for those over 14,
and jail various Christians?

And please explain how Christianity provides the foundations for mass murder
and slavery.

Explain in your own words - not with cut & paste.


>
>>
>>But being born live wasn't a guarantee of anything, either. One of
>>Hitler's own cousins was killed for being "defective".
>
> Jew propaganda no doubt.

In fact it is not. Go look it up; she was killed under the T-4 program.


>
> This speech delivered by Dr. Walter Grob, the head of the Nazi Party's
> Office of Racial Policy. He was speaking to a women's meeting at the
> Gau Party Rally in Cologne on 13 October 1934. After this speech I
> will make my comment on it.

<snip crap>
>
> My comment:

Really. Is this actually your comment, or did you clip it from someone
else?

It'd be notable for you to have an original thought.

>
> In the past there was survival of the fittest and humans evolved
> into higher beings with that. But it was a cruel world.


Sure, and the Nazis were never cruel.

> Notice in the
> above speech that he did say:
>
> "we took the physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically
> defective criminals and not only kept them alive and cared for
> them-that is our duty as human beings, which we certainly do not want
> to ignore in the future either"
>
> Survival of the fittest should be replaced by sterilization.

Why? Is this because the Nazis did not survive, and therefore were not
the fittest?

> We would
> still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.

And this is based on what facts?

What makes you think that Eugenics have achieved any kind of evolution into
"higher beings"?

>
> We should take care for those who need help and many work hours
> would be done to provide for them,

So, explain the T-4 program.


> and all we ask in return is for
> them not to pass their misfortune onto more generations. We are not
> asking too much at all.

Sure, removing life and fundamental rights is not "asking too much".


>
> It was a great speech. These policies that would make a nation
> unimaginably great, a heaven on earth. Heil Hitler.
>
>
>>
>>> They outlawed homosexual perversion
>>
>>You mean as opposed to the "non-perverse" homosexuality practiced?
>
> The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
> Jew lie.

You really can't think for yourself, can you?

>
>
> Heinrich Himmler, Reichsfuhrer SS and head
> of the Gestapo said in a speech in 1936 on the
> subect of homosexuality and execution of Ernst Roehm (which he had
> engineered): "Two years ago...when it became necessary, we
> did not scruple to strike this plague with death, even within our own
> ranks." Himmler closed with these words: "Just as we today have gone
> back to
> the ancient Germanic view on the question of marriage mixing different
> races, so too in our judgement of homosexuality, a symptom of
> degeneracy
> which could destroy our race, we must return to the guiding Nordic
> principle: extermination of degenerates"
>>
>>> and feminism.
>>
>>Substituting slavery for it.
>
> Typical Jew propaganda.

No. Women were not permitted freedom. This is called slavery.


<Snip crap>


>>
>>Do you really think that Germans were free in any meaningful way under
>>Nazi
>>rule?
>
> Of course. Good people were free to do anything they wanted.

Do you *really* want to go with that position?

Oh, and define "good people".


> hey put the evil scum in their place and we can only say Heil Hitler to
> that.

You mean, they led Germany to almost total destruction?


>
>>
>>Not exactly. They published pornography on lamp-posts.
>
> What Jew propaganda are you referring to now?

None. I'm referring to Nazi propoganda, a prime source of sexual
(mis-)information for Nazi German youth.


<snip crap>


>
>>And that led to the slaughter of millions
>
>
>
> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> concentration camps.

And killed many of them. Some by overwork, some by criminal neglect,
others by outright murder.

And you think that is fine.

> The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> political opponants

But had no programs to kill them.

> and for less reason.

I am certainly not going to defend the internment of innocent, loyal
American and Canadian citizens just because of their ethnicity.

You, however, seem to think it's OK to intern innocent, loyal citizens and
kill them.

> At the end of the war there
> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

There's plenty. Of course, you simply cannot accept this so you deny it.

<snip >


> Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

Oh, please. You've been shown the falsity of this many times.

<Snip>

>
>>>> Hitler didn't read from the Bible.
>>>
>>> What a Jewish thing to say.
>>
>>Factual, you mean?
>
> No, I meant that it was a Jewish think to say.

Why?

>
>>
>>I know there's no point in asking you to learn anything, since you've
>>demonstrated that all you can do is cut & paste from your guidebook.
>>
>>What led you to surrender your brain?
>>
> The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
> lie.

Not true. That's just a mindless mantra.

What led you to surrender your brain?

-pk

<snip more crap>


Joe Bruno

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Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:melea1p7icpdkqrg2...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:52:44 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
> > wrote:

<deletia>


>
> >
> >>
> >>I know there's no point in asking you to learn anything, since you've
> >>demonstrated that all you can do is cut & paste from your guidebook.
> >>
> >>What led you to surrender your brain?
> >>
> > The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
> > lie.
>
> Not true. That's just a mindless mantra.

In fact, It's from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's protocol
#12.
That means it was originally written by a Frenchman named JOLI as a
satire on the Napoleon dynasty.It therefore had no basis in fact and
nothing to do with Jews.

You are assuming he had one initially?
>
> -pk
>
> <snip more crap>

Ben Cramer

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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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> In fact, It's from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's protocol
> #12.
> That means it was originally written by a Frenchman named JOLI as a
> satire on the Napoleon dynasty.It therefore had no basis in fact and
> nothing to do with Jews.


Total, and utter bullshit.


Patrick Keenan

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Your reflexive response fails you. Go look it up. Napoleon jailed Joly
for it.

The original had nothing to do with Jews.

Hope this helps.

-pk


Joe Bruno

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This has been posted numerous times, you lying piece of shit:


The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion


by J.H. Hunting
(Reprinted from the Vineyard, March, 1978)
This timely article is reprinted to expose the upsurge of anti-Semitism

caused by this infamous forgery.
I have on my desk unsavoury anti-Semitic literature which is currently
being foisted upon the public, and the clergy in particular.
Because this literature expresses such ugly Jew-hate and is so
blatantly
untrue I feel it my duty to unmask the lies set forth.
Included in the literature which is being circulated through the post
is
a broadsheet carrying the following advertisement:
"THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION. Originally translated by Victor
Marsden, great British journalist. Believed by many to be the original
minutes of the Zionist plot for world power."
"THE INTERNATIONAL JEW". Originally published by Henry Ford, Snr.
Reproduced in compact form.
Henry Ford Publicly Retracted His Views.
Regretfully, Mr. Henry Ford Snr. initiated a campaign of Jew-hate in
1920. His Book, "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW" WAS BASED MAINLY ON "THE
PROTOCOLS'. However, what the publishers of this current edition of
'THE
INTERNATIONAL JEW' do not state is that Mr. Ford completely retracted
his views expressed in his book. It is only fair that his retraction be

quoted herewith.
"To my great regret I learn that in the Dearborn Independent and in
reprint pamphlets entitled, 'THE INTERNATIONAL JEW', there have
appeared
articles which induce the Jews to regard me as their enemy, promoting
anti-Semitism.
"As a result of this survey I am deeply mortified that this journal,
which is intended to be constructive and not destructive, has been made

the medium for resurrecting exploded fictions, for giving currency to
the so-called Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, which have been
demonstrated, as I learn, to be gross forgeries, and for contending
that
the Jews have been engaged in a conspiracy to control the capital and
the industries of the world, besides laying at their door many offences

against decency, public order and good morals...I deem it to be my duty

as an honourable man to make amends for the wrong done to the Jews as
fellow men and brothers, by asking their forgiveness for the harm which

I have unintentionally committed, by retracting, as far as lies within
my power the offensive charges laid at their door by these
publications,
and by giving them the unqualified assurance that henceforth they may
look to me for friendship and good will...
"Had I appreciated even the general nature to say nothing of the
details
of these utterances, I would have forbidden their circulation without a

moment's hesitation...This statement is made on my own initiative and
wholly in the interest of right and justice, and is in accordance with
what I regard as my solemn duty as a man and as a citizen."
What are the Protocols?
As many of our readers may not be familiar with this infamous forgery
the following is a brief summary of its evil ingredients. The
"Protocols" are set forth as the minutes of twenty-four secret sessions

of "the innermost circle of the rulers of Zion". These fictitious
minutes are thus laid down as twenty-four "Protocols" or master plan to

enslave the world by the most dastardly and unscrupulous methods
imaginable. here are a few examples:
"Our right lies in force. The word "right" is an abstract thought and
proved by nothing. The word means no more than: Give me what I want in
order that thereby I may have a proof that I am stronger than you." -
Protocol 1. Article 12.
"The administrators, whom we shall choose from among the public, with
strict regard to their capacities for servile obedience, will not be
persons trained in the arts of government, and will therefore easily
become pawns in our game in the hands of men of learning and genius who

will be their advisors, specially bred and reared from early childhood
to rule the affairs of the whole world."- Protocol 2. Article 2.
"In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring it into a
state of bewilderment by giving expression from all sides to so many
contradictory opinions and for such length of time as will suffice to
make the gym (Gentiles) lose their heads in the labyrinth and come to
see that the best thing is to have no opinion of any kind in matters
political, which is not given to the public to understand, because they

are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first
secret."- Protocol 5. Article 10.
"The Press, which with a few exceptions that may be disregarded, is
already entirely in our hands."- Protocol 7. Article 5.
How Did the Protocols Originate?
In 1901 a Russian official in the Chancery of the Synod of Moscow named

Serge A. Niles published a strange work entitled, "The Great in the
Little and the AntiChrist as a Proximate Political Possibility". Nilus
expressed the view that only the Holy Russian Empire could save the
world from the rule of Antichrist. The idea behind the book was to
bolster the absolute authority of the Czarist regime. In 1905 a second
edition of the book appeared with one significant addition - the
Protocols! Thus was born one of the most infamous documents ever
published. And only Nilus himself ever claimed to have seen the
original.
The "Protocols" Exposed as an Infamous Forgery
In August 1921 Mr. Phillip Graves, correspondent of the London "Times"
in Constantinople came into the possession of a small book in a
tattered
condition. Such an insignificant incident may well have passed
unnoticed
and been swallowed into oblivion had not Mr. Graves recognized a
sentence as being identical with one of the "Protocols". Yet, THIS BOOK

HAD THE NAME "JOLI" AS THE AUTHOR!
Mr. Graves compared the book written by Monsieur Joli with a copy of
the
"Protocols" and in it he found repeated word for word, paragraph for
paragraph and page for page the text of the earlier book written by
Joli. The only alteration was that instead of the word "Zion" Joli had
written "France", and instead of "We the Jews" the original book had
"The Emperor"!
The book written by Joli was a satire directed against Napoleon III and

was entitled "Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu". IT

HAD NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH THE JEWS!
In three consecutive issues dated 16th, 17th and 18th August, 1921 the
London "Times" printed long extracts from the "Protocols" side by side
with Joli's "Dialogue in Hell". Thus was the infamous forgery exposed
as
ONE OF THE MOST INSOLENT FORGERIES OF ALL TIME.
Count Heinrich Coudenhove-Kalergi in his book "ANTI-SEMITISM THROUGHOUT

THE AGES" (English translation, Hutchinson, 1935) writes: "This
plagiarism is an anti-Semitic forgery from the beginning to the end
without any connection whatever with Jewish personalities, groups,
organizations or conferences. The publication is in no wise, whether
directly or indirectly, a product of the Jewish spirit, or Jewish
tradition, or of Jewish sentiments and opinions.
"In the entire fraud committed against humanity which the "Protocols"
represents, the Jews are merely innocent objects, while the
anti-Semites
were the guilty agents. Thousands of Jews have been massacred,
maltreated, plundered and imprisoned in the Ukraine and in Germany on
account of this forgery. At the same time many millions of non-Jews
have
been deceived by the "Protocols", they have been induced to commit
deeds
and to utter words which they would most deeply regret were the facts
of
the forgery known to them. No book and no event in the history of
modern
anti-Semitism has played such an important part as this plagiarism; it
constitutes the piece de resistance, the choice morsel of after-war
anti-Semitism.
"It is, therefore, they duty of all decent men in the world, be they
non-Jews or Jews, Anti-Semites or Philo-Semites, to work with all their

might and see to it that this shameless lie, forgery and calumny
disappears from the world.
"It ought to be made clear to all those who know the "Protocols" that
the publication is a plagiarism of fatal world importance. The work of
enlightenment is not only a duty to the calumniated Jews, but also to
truth, for it is no exaggeration to say that the so called "Protocols
of
the Elders of Zion" are both one of the most insolent forgeries of all
time and one of the meanest calumnies which has existed in human
history."
Hitler knew only too well how to manipulate the masses with lies of
great magnitude and he exploited the "Protocols" to the fullest extent.

Four years after the publication of the warning contained in Count
Kalergi's book the harvest of hatred against the Jews began in Europe,
and the flames of the holocaust were not extinguished until six million

innocent Jewish victims had perished.
The Law Steps In
Dr. A. Zander, editor of a Swiss Nazi organ, published a series of
articles on the acceptability of the "Protocols". But Swiss law offered

redress and community leaders in that country determined to expose the
fraudulent basis of the iniquitous document before a well-respected
court of justice.
Trial began in Berne on October 29, 1934, the plaintiffs being Dr. J.
Dreyfus-Brodsky, Dr. Marcus Cohen, and Dr. Marcus Ehrenpreis.
On May 19, 1935, the Cantonal Court of Berne, after full investigation
declared the "Protocols" to be forgeries, plagiarisms, and obscene
literature and gave judgment in favour of the Cantonal Bernese Act. The

Nazi, Dr. Zander, was fined.
At Grahamstown, South Africa, in August, 1934, the Court imposed fines
totalling 1.775 ($4,500) on three men for concocting a modern version
of
the "Protocols".

Ben Cramer

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>
> Ben Cramer wrote:
>> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>> news:1118281640.8...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > In fact, It's from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's protocol
>> > #12.
>> > That means it was originally written by a Frenchman named JOLI as a
>> > satire on the Napoleon dynasty.It therefore had no basis in fact and
>> > nothing to do with Jews.
>>
>>
>> Total, and utter bullshit.
>
>
>
>
> This has been posted numerous times, you lying piece of shit:
>
>
> The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion
>
>

I have likely owned a copy of the Protocols for longer than you, you fucking
dill. They are not fake, in fact, it was only following their leaking, that
the zionists decided to cry foul, and deride the document as a fake.

What is happening in the world today, bears testimony to the essence of the
messages in the Protocols.

You're a silly delusional old cunt, who would fall for the 3 card trick.

Topaz

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wrote:


>


>So you think it's OK to sterilize visitors?
>
>They sterilized citizens, who are by definition Germans.

This speech delivered by Dr. Walter Grob, the head of the Nazi Party's


Office of Racial Policy. He was speaking to a women's meeting at the
Gau Party Rally in Cologne on 13 October 1934. After this speech I
will make my comment on it.

characteristics. That was the worst that happened: we took the


physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically defective criminals
and not only kept them alive and cared for them-that is our duty as
human beings, which we certainly do not want to ignore in the future

My comment:

In the past there was survival of the fittest and humans evolved
into higher beings with that. But it was a cruel world. Notice in the


above speech that he did say:

"we took the physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically
defective criminals and not only kept them alive and cared for
them-that is our duty as human beings, which we certainly do not want
to ignore in the future either"

Survival of the fittest should be replaced by sterilization. We would


still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.

We should take care for those who need help and many work hours
would be done to provide for them, and all we ask in return is for


them not to pass their misfortune onto more generations. We are not
asking too much at all.

It was a great speech. These policies that would make a nation


unimaginably great, a heaven on earth. Heil Hitler.

>No, they do not. And unlike you, I can do far more than reflexively

>respond with cut & paste.

>No, it isn't. You'd know this if you actually knew the history.

What you call "history" is nothing but Jew propaganda. The Jews
control your media.
>


>There weren't enough males around for marriages, as the Nazis had shipped
>them off to various fronts, so the Nazis encouraged out-of-wedlock
>pregnancies.
>

>So, why did the Nazis discontinue all religious education for those over 14,
>and jail various Christians?

He jailed some so-called Christians because they were enemies on the
side of the reds during a war against Communism. The USA and Britain
locked up political opponants.

Here is an article from Frauen Warte magazine, the National Socialist
Party's magazine for
women:
The Educational Principles of the New Germany:
What Schools and Parents Need to Know About the Goals of National
Socialist Education

German people, German parents! The new Germany created by our people's
chancellor Adolf Hitler places special demands on the German youth.
The German youth are a foundation of the rebuilding of the German
people and the German fatherland. The people and the fatherland place
their hands on the shoulders of the youth and determine what
educational and cultural values and goals are necessary for this youth
to meet the needs of people and fatherland. This requires a truly
national and social education for the German youth, and all involved
in education has to serve these educational and cultural goals with
their full energy. Parents and teachers above all!
All those involved in education must have a clear and unified idea of
the educational tasks before them. The four iron pillars of the
national school and educational system are: race, military training,
leadership, and religion!
Race
National Socialist education is an education in the thinking of the
German people, in understanding German traditions, in awakening the
pure, uncorrupted and honest people's consciousness, their sense of
belonging to the people. Only a pure member of the German race can
have such an understanding of his people, crowning it with the
willingness to sacrifice all for the people. He must know that without
his people he is a miserable nothing, and that it is better if he
himself die than that his people and fatherland perish! He who thinks
that National Socialist education has as its goal a kind of
hyperpatriotism has not understood it. Something entirely different is
intended. Something should be awakened in the soul of young Germans
that will fill their hearts and whole being until their souls can no
longer restrain the overflowing, until a powerful and jubilant "Hail
Germany" springs from their lips! That call itself is not the first or
most significant goal: rather it is its foundation in the soul, a
foundation that jubilantly, freely, confidently, cheerfully and
passionately expresses itself. It is the holy sense of people and
fatherland! Awakening this in the German youth requires that they have
a clear understanding of the value of people and fatherland. They must
realize that the German people has a right to independence and
freedom, honor and power. They must learn that it has a right to its
own fate among the peoples of the earth, and it must gain with the
other peoples the place in the sun that belongs to it. It must do this
not through force, rather because the German people is a noble nation
that has created values for the entire world that no other people was
capable of. We want to awaken in the German youth this free, righteous
and noble national pride so that at the thought of Germany's past,
present and future their hearts will pound and their eyes will gleam.
That is the first foundation of National Socialist education.
Military Training
It is clear that the German youth must be resolved to defend their
fatherland with their lives. Despite all the nonsense about promises
and disarmament, Germany is surrounded by weapons. The German youth
must learn military virtues. Their bodies must be steeled, made hard
and strong, so that the youth may become capable soldiers who are
healthy, strong, trained, energetic and able to bear hardships.
Gymnastics, games, sports, hiking, swimming, and military exercises
must all be learned by the youth. Our youth should not sit in stuffy
rooms and develop crooked backs and weak eyes. Alongside the basic and
truly important education of the mind, they should develop healthy
bodies by being outdoors. The idea of the healthy and strong German
should not be mere empty talk. Parents can help here. They will train
our youth in simplicity and cleanliness. They will train them, even
when they are older, not to waste their spare time by dubious or even
harmful activities such as card playing, drinking alcohol and bad
music, rather to prepare their bodies for their future tasks.
Leadership
A youth being trained for such important national duties must accept
the idea of following the Führer absolutely and without question,
without unhealthy carping criticism, without selfishness or
opposition. They must learn to obey so that they, having themselves,
having learned to obey, can believe in and trust their own leadership
and can grow to be leaders themselves. Only he who has learned to obey
can lead. Germany no longer believes that the masses can lead
themselves by majority rule! The masses themselves are nothing! We
need not a people ruled by majority votes, but a people with the will
to leadership. The German youth must learn that and act accordingly!
Thus the German youth belongs in organizations where they will learn
the nature of leadership in its most noble form, where they can learn
to obey and-if they are called to it-also learn to lead. They will not
bend to an empty mass will expressed through useless votes, rather
look with enthusiasm to the nation's strong and noble Führer. They
must learn that once again. We parents want to exhibit such authority
to our youth by strengthening family authority and establishing in our
homes a healthy and natural obedience on the part of our children.
This will not suppress the youth, rather provide them the controlled
freedom and authority they need to develop their abilities.
Religion
Life comes from God and returns to God. All life and all races follow
God's ordinances. No people and no race can ignore them. We want the
German youth to again recognize the religious nature of life. They
must realize that God wants the individual as well as the whole
people, and that they lose contact with life when they lose contact
with God! God and nation are the two foundations of the life of the
individual and the community. We want no shallow and superficial
piety, rather a deep faith that God guides the world, that he controls
it, and a consciousness of the relationship between God and each
individual, and between God and the live of the people and the
fatherland. The National Socialist state will promote such a deeply
religious educational system. We want parents to support and
strengthen this by honesty and by good example.
Race, military training, leadership, religion! These are the four
unshakable foundations of the new German National Socialist education!

>
>And please explain how Christianity provides the foundations for mass murder
>and slavery.


During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in

concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponants and for less reason. At the end of the war there


was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"

The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas

Andrew Roth, a Jew.

John Service, a gentile.

Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown

Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.

>


>Explain in your own words - not with cut & paste.

>


>In fact it is not. Go look it up; she was killed under the T-4 program.

"The German euthanasia program was nothing more than a program to
afford a merciful death to people who were hopelessly ill and in
severe pain or incurably mentally deficient to the point where they
were unaware of their surroundings. It was a mercy death afforded to
incurably ill German citizens by the state but only after a panel of
experts decided that the condition of the patient warranted such a
procedure. There was nothing cruel, inhumane, or illegal about the
program."

The actual document
signed by Hitler. Here's what Hitler ordered:

"Berlin, 1 September 1939

"Reichsleiter Bouhler and Dr. med. Brandt are instructed to broaden
the
powers of physicians designated by name, who will decide whether those
who have-as far as can be humanly determined-incurable illnesses can,
after the most careful evaluation, be granted a mercy death."

/signed/ Adolf Hitler

Note that the order authorized the special panel of named doctors
to "grant" a mercy death. The order anticipated the existence of some
request by the patient or his family members. The order specified
only
"incurable illnesses" determined after careful evaluation by doctors
as
far as humanly possible.


Morghus

Hitler stopped the euthensia program when Christians complained.

>Really. Is this actually your comment, or did you clip it from someone
>else?
>
>It'd be notable for you to have an original thought.
>
>

>Sure, and the Nazis were never cruel.

"I know you expect no deep expression of feelings, for feelings cannot
be clothed in words. But please imagine this: jobless, without any
money. For two years! For four years! For six years! A desperate
woman, broken in body and soul, with three young children.
How often did I see their hungry eyes looking toward me with vain
expectation. Nothing is more tortuous than such looks from children.
My faith in him, the fanatical fighter, was what kept me and mine from
what lured us - and anyone else in our situation - Suicide!
And today?
A happy mother who is always singing with her children. No one can see
in her the miserable, desperate woman she once was. Instead of three
unhappy hollow-cheeked children, four little devils making noise far
and wide.
Look at them! There may be families with better behaved children, but
none with children as cheerful and happy! That is what the Führer
means to me and mine.
I turned my back very early to a foreign worldview because it left my
whole life meaningless. The Führer gave me his worldview a firm place
to stand, for it is nothing but a knowledge of the eternal laws that
are behind the universe.
His deeds are a joyful fulfillment of these laws. His successes do not
seem to me, as one hears all too often, the result of good luck,
rather as the natural consequences of his nature. This faith, no, this
certainty, enables me to understand the Führer when his actions would
otherwise require blind confidence.
Such obvious confidence is the most wonderful feeling that I can
imagine. Admiration? Recognition? Thanks? They are nothing when
compared to the full understanding of a people of 80 million for the
mission of its Führer. That alone would be crowning of his sacrificial
struggle.
This fulfillment of this wish is my prayer for the Führer."
Fred. Ch., Poppelau

"The Führer is everything to us, he is our faith, security and hope.
As a bearer of the blood medal, I have always believed in this man,
who guided and inspired us, who led us in the fight for Germany's
greatness. We, me, my wife and our seven children, believe only in
him, Adolf Hitler. Is there a belief more understandable, more real,
more natural than this?
Has the Führer not done everything for us that one could do for the
good of a family? Did he not give me a job and the ability to decently
feed and clothe my family? Has he not given my children a future that
no other country could so easily give?
The Führer is with us in every situation! Look, sometimes the world is
hard on a family. There are difficult situations that cannot be
overcome. In just such hours I go to my living room, and there is a
picture of my Führer.
I look Adolf Hitler in the face and remember his great struggle, his
great will and accomplishments, and my miserable mood is gone and
thinking of the Führer gives me new strength.
How can I fail when I see the greatness in and around Adolf Hitler?
My children know the Führer as the man who rules all, arranges all,
who built their world. The Führer is the embodiment of what people had
such difficulty describing to us children before. But this is the
enormous difference: The Führer moves among the people so that one can
celebrate him, so that our love for him is rewarded through his ever
new deeds.
The Führer is hope for us in every situation. Look, my dear comrade,
according to the Führer's own words, raising seven children is a great
responsibility to the state and a holy duty.
To form these young souls, to raise them to be decent adults, is such
a wonderful task only because the Führer has given us the sure
foundations that are necessary. He is our hope, for only through his
generous measures are we with many children also able to "lead an
decent life," as anyone should be able to do. He protects our strength
through the NSV, through subventions for children, through the support
the state gives women and children, through the high status he gave
children.
Once people mocked those with many children. Today people honor them.
Now my wife and I have become respected members of the state. That is
why we have such hope for the future of our children, for the Führer
has provided all that is necessary for them so that they too will be
able to establish families and contribute to the security and
protection of the great Fatherland.
Is it not wonderful to know what a wonderful future awaits our
children. One cannot but remember our own youth during the postwar
period, during the inflation, the days of hunger and so much that had
terrible effects on our youth and development.
Our children have no fears of such things, for they know that our
Führer plans everything, foresees everything, and prepares the best
for us.
Is is not obvious why the Führer means everything to us?"
Toni Dominik Sch., Unterammergau

"I can still remember the first time I saw and heard the Führer in
1920 in the Zirkus Krone in Munich. This was the introduction: "Adolf
Hitler will speak!" A somewhat slight young man stood before me, with
a short coat, soft collar and crumpled tie, poorly clothed. I was
curious to hear what this man had to say to me.
As I heard his voice, the passion of his words (something unheard of
at the time), the growing tension of his words, it became clear to me:
This man or no one! To this day, this inner feeling has not left me.
The greatness of this man, his deeds, his historic successes seem
enormous to me. But yet I always see him as a man of the people, one
of us in my mind's eye. It fills me with pride that Providence choice
one of our brothers to fulfill German history.
I honor the great figures of German history, but my feelings for the
Führer are different. I believe that love is the best word to describe
them.
One of us, who came from the people, has done amazing deeds, yet
remained the same from the first day I saw him until today.
I admire this man so much that I would defend him even if he were in
the wrong, but he cannot be wrong since he is truth and justice
themselves."
Gr. F., Munich

>
>Why? Is this because the Nazis did not survive, and therefore were not
>the fittest?

Compare the size of Germany to the size of the Jewish controlled
countries, the USA and the USSR, and it was a close fight.

>
>> We would
>> still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.
>
>And this is based on what facts?

Common sense.


>
>What makes you think that Eugenics have achieved any kind of evolution into
>"higher beings"?

It certainly would if we had it.

>
>So, explain the T-4 program.

"The German euthanasia program was nothing more than a program to
afford a merciful death to people who were hopelessly ill and in
severe pain or incurably mentally deficient to the point where they
were unaware of their surroundings. It was a mercy death afforded to
incurably ill German citizens by the state but only after a panel of
experts decided that the condition of the patient warranted such a
procedure. There was nothing cruel, inhumane, or illegal about the
program."

The actual document
signed by Hitler. Here's what Hitler ordered:

"Berlin, 1 September 1939

"Reichsleiter Bouhler and Dr. med. Brandt are instructed to broaden
the
powers of physicians designated by name, who will decide whether those
who have-as far as can be humanly determined-incurable illnesses can,
after the most careful evaluation, be granted a mercy death."

/signed/ Adolf Hitler

Note that the order authorized the special panel of named doctors
to "grant" a mercy death. The order anticipated the existence of some
request by the patient or his family members. The order specified
only
"incurable illnesses" determined after careful evaluation by doctors
as
far as humanly possible.


Morghus

Hitler stopped the euthensia program when Christians complained.

>
>Sure, removing life and fundamental rights is not "asking too much".


If overpopulation is not a problem now it probably will be in
the future. In places like India they are already overpopulated.

Overpopulation means suffering and misery and is something we need
to avoid. We can't have the population keep doubling forever without
running out of food and having other problems that would make life
miserable for millions of people.

We will someday need to limit the number of people being born and
we should do this in the best and most rational way. This means we
should not do it on a voluntary basis. If it were done voluntarily the
best people would not reproduce while the people who don't care about
anything would. On a voluntary basis the most intelligent and caring
people would not reproduce, while the inferior people who don't care
about anything would produce more people who don't care about
anything. Intelligence is hereditary and a sane policy would see to it
that it is the intelligent people who reproduce. The choice is between
a great world in the future or a pathetic catastrophe for our future.
Today the White race is not reproducing enough to keep our race at the
present numbers. Dealing with overpopulation on a voluntary basis is a
big mistake. We must see the situation as it is and deal with the
facts of the matter. How will a voluntary program work on
unintelligent libertines who couldn't care less about the problem?

If the population of a nation is not too big than we would not
have to implement any program. But if the population becomes a serious
problem we should sterilize some of the people. This does not entail
misery and suffering as a food shortage would. The people would be
educated by the media that they are doing a great service to the
nation and they should be treated honorably. They would not be harmed
or allowed to starve to death because there isn't enough jobs for
them, which is some peoples answer to the problem. We don't need to
depend on wars to reduce the population. We can end misery and
suffering in the world, but we must realize we need a plan to keep the
population from always doubling.

When the population of a nation becomes a serious problem we
should reduce the number of births for example by 10%. We should then
have the fair and just method of testing everyones IQ and those who
score in the lowest 10% should be sterilized. We could keep it
confidential and do whatever we can eliminate hardships. But this
would be fair to all. Everyone has a chance to score high on the test.
There can be no allowances for the rich or the famous.

The population problem would then be solved. It would be done
justly and fairly and with the best future for mankind as the result
and as our goal.

>
>You really can't think for yourself, can you?

Pot Kettle Black, The Jews control your media. Here are some quotes
from Mein Kampf:

>


>No. Women were not permitted freedom. This is called slavery.

Here are some quotes from the account of the women's rally at the

Speech by Gertrud Scholz-Klink:

>>


>> Of course. Good people were free to do anything they wanted.
>
>Do you *really* want to go with that position?

The Jews control your media and everything that has gone inside your
brain is evil propaganda.

>
>Oh, and define "good people".

Common sense.


>
>You mean, they led Germany to almost total destruction?

"By the time Hitler reached the position of leadership,
Germany had lost half its territory, all of its colonies, and most of
its industries. Inflation had reduced the German mark to a joke. The
economy was in a shambles, and Industry and commerce was at a
standstill. Foreign carpetbaggers were picking off German assets at
bargain prices. Unemployment was everywhere, and those who worked did
so for slave wages. The victorious international powers who won World
War I were stripping the Germans of everything, including their pride.

Germany had no army, no navy, no allies, and no influence in the
world.
Reparations paid annually to the victorious Allies were designed to
keep Germany in a state of poverty and submission. Germany couldn't
even defend itself against international theft. When the German
government couldn't meet reparation payments, the French simply
marched
in and seized the industrial Ruhr; sending black troops as a
deliberate
insult.

Germany couldn't even defend itself against internal takeovers.
Jewish-Communist rowdies, taking directions for the Jewish Bolsheviks
in Russia, roamed the German streets at will, some even took over the
reins of local governments, and street riots were a regular
occurrence.
A worldwide boycott of anything German was organized by foreign Jews
to block even modest economic recovery. To the German citizenry, the
situation was hopeless.

Then Adolf Hitler took over the leadership of the country. Within a
few years, Germany became an economic powerhouse in Europe while the
rest of the world struggled under a worldwide depression. Communist
agitators and street rowdies either went to work or went to jail.
Germany experienced a miraculous transformation.

German industries reassumed their leadership role in the world
economy.
The German mark was stabilized and became a powerful exchange medium
in
world commerce. Everything from agriculture to banking was
modernized. Newly constructed high speed autobahns connected bustling
cities, and newly built trains whistled through the countryside
carrying passengers and freight to newly refurbished cities supplying
their newly rejuvenated commerce. Unemployment simply disappeared.

Prosperity was distributed to every class of citizens. Artists and
writers flourished. New schools, theatres, churches, auditoriums, and
stadiums were filled with the prosperous and proud Germans. The
result: citizens jammed the streets whenever Hitler passed. Where a
few years before people were afraid to leave their homes because of
the
violence, Hitler and his entourage paraded in open cars without fear
while German crowds shouted and cheered his arrival.

No leader in history ever unified so many millions of people to a
common peacetime cause and mutual cooperation as Hitler did in
Germany.
No leader in history ever did as much for the common people under his
charge as Hitler did for the Germans...

Morghus

>
>None. I'm referring to Nazi propoganda, a prime source of sexual
>(mis-)information for Nazi German youth.

They made a movie called Hitlerjunge Quex and it is the exact
opposite of what the Jews told you.

Here are some quotes from "Faith and Action." The author was in charge
of education for the Hitler Youth:

You carry in your blood the holy inheritance of your fathers and
forefathers. You do not know those who have vanished in endless ranks
into the darkness of the past. But they all live in you and walk in
your blood upon the earth that consumed them in battle and toil and in
which their bodies have long decayed. Your blood is therefore
something holy. In it your parents gave you not only a body, but your
nature. To deny your blood is to deny yourself. No one can change it.
But each decides to grow the good that one has inherited and suppress
the bad. Each is also given will and courage. You do not have only the
right, but also the duty to pass your blood on to your children, for
you are a member of the chain of generations that reaches from the
past into eternity, and this link of the chain that you represent must
do its part so that the chain is never broken. But if your blood has
traits that will make your children unhappy and burdens to the state,
then you have the heroic duty to be the last. The blood is the carrier
of life. You carry in it the secret of creation itself. Your blood is
holy, for in it God's will lives.

Race means to be able to think in a certain way. He who has courage,
loyalty and honor, the mark of the German, has the race that should
rule in Germany, even if he does not have the physical characteristics
of the "Nordic" race. The unity of the noble and a noble body is the
goal to which we strive. But we despise those whose noble body carries
an ignoble soul. A variety of related European races have merged in
Germany. One trunk grew from these roots. Each race gave its best
strength. Each contributed to the German soul We Germans have a
fighting spirit, a look to the horizon, the "desire to do a thing for
its own sake" of the Nordic race. Another racial soul gave us our cozy
old cities and our depth. Yet another racial soul gave us mastery of
the magical realm of music. Yet another gave us our ability to
organize, and our silent obedience. We can not hold it against anyone
if he carries a variety of racial lines, for the German soul does as
well, and created out of it the immeasurable riches which it possesses
above all other nations. The greatness of our Reich grew out of this
soul. But the Nordic race must dominate in Germany and shape the soul
of each German. It must win out in the breast of each individual.
Today our ideal is not the artist or the citizen, but the hero. Our
highest treasure is the soul that we have been given. He who mixes his
blood with that of foreign inferior races ruins the blood and soul
that have been given to him to pass on in purity to his children. He
makes his children impure and miserable, and commits the greatest
crime that he as a National Socialist can commit. But he who follows
the laws of race fulfills the great commandment that only like should
be brought together with like, keeping apart those things like fire
and water which do not mix.

A people grows from god's will. Woe to him who wishes to destroy the
peoples and make people alike. God created the trees, the bushes, the
weeds and the grass not so that they could merge into one species, but
that each should exist in its own way. Just as a tree, a people grows
as a living whole from similar roots, but becoming one, the strongest
of its kind. All of the same blood belong to it. A people knows no
state boundaries. It is bound by the ties of blood that bind all the
sons of a single mother. The German people is a nation of a hundred
million. Each German belongs to it, no matter where he may live. A
people cannot be destroyed as long as its roots draw on the strength
of the earth. Summer and winter may come and go. But it always blooms
anew in indestructible life and perfects itself in the strength that
rises from its roots towards god's will. What does it mean when an
individual dies? It is as if the wind blows leaves from a tree. New
ones grow eternally every spring. The peoples are the greatest and
most noble creation of god on this earth. There is no institution in
the world, no party and no church, that has the right to make them the
same or to rob them of even the tiniest bit of their individuality.

Socialism means: "The common good before the individual good."
Socialism means: "Think not of yourself, but of the whole, of the
people and the state."
Socialism means: "Not the same for everyone, but to each his own."
These sentences make clear what we call "German socialism." No one is
a socialist who does not live according to them. A new order grows
from these sentences. The sentence "To each his own" has killed the
"mass," the slogan of Marxism, and replaced it with the "community."
Every community grows around a leader. He is the center of its order,
which forms around him. A number of these leaders form a larger
community, and stand around their leader as a living order. It all
grows from below-the number growing ever smaller-like a pyramid, and
finds its epitome in the Führer of the Reich. All are bound by the
community. Each community is a living order. The whole, the great
living order, is the people's community. It binds inextricably person
to person, leader to leader. It does not give the same to everyone,
but to each his own. It creates the socialist people in a socialist
state. Each has his task in the community, given to him according to
his gifts. Never do all have the same task, rather each his own. His
task gives him a place in the community, If he fulfills it completely,
he wins the esteem of the others. He is happy, even if his task is not
large in the overall scheme of things. Such communities grow in the
field, in assault troops, in artillery battalions, in submarines, in
S.A. units. Strong, bound forever together, wordlessly understanding
each other, together until the end, sworn to a common goal. Strength
grows from such communities, and from them grows the state. We want
community in Germany so that we can stand unshaken in the face of
whatever may come. The mass is conquered by the community. It gives to
each his own, to each his goal and his task, and everyone together one
goal: the people's community in the new state..

Courage is the most beautiful and noble trait a man can have. He who
has no courage is not a man. The "storming courage" of an attack is
wonderful. The feeling of having risked all in service of a high ideal
frees one and lets him charge forward with joy. Courage bears a man as
if he had wings, and fills his heart. The attack becomes the high
point of life. When everything depends on one card, when one can lose
everything, when one can win everything, life is at its best. He who
has never charged and attacked, filled with courage, has never fully
lived. Alongside "stormy courage" is the "indomitable courage" of
those facing hard fate. "Fate is great and powerful, but greater still
is the person who bears it unshaken." Life is often harder than death.
A coward holds on to it. No one faces a challenge greater than the
strength he has been given to face it. Courage overcomes all. When one
has done all in his power, good luck comes to show him a new way and
help him along. But it is not really good luck. "Resist all powers,
never give in, be strong, calls the army of the gods." Courage is
needed not only by the man, by the soldier, a woman too needs courage.
For the man battle, the attack is the greatest challenge. For the
woman it comes when she gives a new person life. Men who no longer
want to wage war cannot face the mothers who give new life at the risk
of their own. Courage is the noblest trait of a man or woman. It
determines the battle and gives victory.

Life demands hardness. One must strive with burning heart toward the
ideal of hardness. To be hard for the sake of life, to become a
fighter, to win the victory. Our environment is a given. Burning heat
in summer, biting cold in winter, long marches in the wet and cold.
Working long at the factory, or behind a machine gun. Bearing hunger
and thirst, sleeping on the bare earth, not surrendering in battle,
never, never, no matter how hopeless everything seems, hurling an
empty pistol in the face of the enemy, reaching for his neck without
regard for oneself, even if it leads to death. To be a fighter, a
fighter with faith in his cause, even if everyone says it is a false
cause. That brings victory, the victory that belongs to him who is the
harder. You should never give up in battle or work. Even if you fail a
thousand times, you must make the thousand and first attempt. In the
end it will succeed and you will be the victor, even if almost bled
dry, almost faint, but filled with the triumphant knowledge of having
overcome. You are victor in your struggle and victor over yourself.
Each must prepare for his battle. Each must train as if he will one
day fight the decisive battle for Germany. Each must be able to march,
suffer hunger and thirst, sleep on bare ground, bear all privations,
be a fighter, a soldier from the moment he can understand what is at
stake. We need men hard and tough as steel, harder than anything else
in the world. Only they will master the great future of Germany. Do
you want to be one of them, or stand aside as a weakling? Germany will
be the land of the brave and the strong. Either you belong to them, or
you will no longer be a German.

Will is the force inside you that commands. You may hesitate from
weariness, anxiety, weakness. Will lifts you over every barrier and
orders you to do what your feelings and understanding tell you to do.
A man without will is like a machine without power. It is useless. But
"where there is a will, there is a way," and where a will orders, it
is obeyed, whether a person follows his own will or men follow the
will of a leader. Where there is faith that comes from strength, it is
will that gives it the push. Exercise your will so that it is as taut
and ready as a drawn bowstring, ready to let loose in the moment it
should, neither a second too late nor a second too early. Exercise
your will in little things until it is strong enough to bring from you
that which Germany expects.

One expects that a person who drives a car is in control, and that he
causes no accidents. One expects that a person who lives with other
people will control himself, so that he does not endanger himself or
others. The forces within us can raise or lower us. It depends on the
use we make of them, on whether we control them and therefore
ourselves. Hunger and thirst exist to be satisfied. But woe to him who
eats for the sake of eating or drinks for the sake of drinking. He is
lower than an animal that knows when it has had enough. But he to whom
understanding has been given does not know it. We hate the gluttons
and drunkards with bulging bodies and swollen eyes, people with no
character or self control. We eat and drink to live, but we never live
in order to eat and drink. The body must be kept under iron discipline
so that we are always in charge of it and it is always dependable. We
also may never allow the sexual drive to control us. For adults it is
not there to be satisfied, rather a force that should be used to
produce future generations healthy in both body and soul. A young
person is given strength not to use in bed, rather in the sun and the
wind, on the sports field and countryside, until we have a body in
front of us full of strength and speed, a body in which courage and
faith are joined in a free soul, a body that is master of its
passions, master of itself, the German person of the future. Out of it
will grow the strength of a renewed people, the bearer of a future
generation of nobility and freedom. If you control yourself, you
control life. If you control yourself, you must be able to bear pain
without uttering a sound. Men do not complain or cry, and boys who
want to become men behave in the same way. You should not give in to
every little problem. Be open, be determined, never play the cripple,
but control yourself. Be the master of your pain and problems. Force
yourself to be cheerfully faithful. Then you will find strength you
did not know you had. You must practice self control. How often does
duty call, but something distracts you? Command yourself so that you
can master yourself. Do something every day that you do not like to
do, and avoid doing something every day that you would gladly have
done. Do everything you are ordered to do immediately, without
thinking about it. You must in order to become a real man. That is the
secret of every great personality. It has gained all the strength it
directs outwardly from overcoming itself. But you should not be a meek
person who gives up everything in order to live in a cave to receive a
promised blessing. God does not want that for a person. He should have
pleasure in his work. He should use it, but never misuse it, and
should be the master of himself.

Savages and half-savages have courage, but only advanced people have
discipline. Discipline is the ability to fall in line. Discipline is
carrying out an order without knowing the reason, without
understanding. Discipline also means enduring injustice for the sake
of a good cause. Discipline is iron virtue and silent obedience.
Discipline comes from within yourself. You accept it because you
follow a higher will. He who does not do this will be forced by steely
necessity, which alone can overcome the lack of will and weakness of
many, making of them useful members of the people and the state.
Discipline is a spiritual attitude. Law and command work through it
for the good of all. Any weakening of discipline is the beginning of
collapse. Each is called to ensure that he himself and the man next to
him behaves in a disciplined way...

You live by honor, not by bread. Slaves believe that they only need
food and drink to live. The free man knows that he needs honor first
of all. Your honor is your standing with your comrades and fellow
citizens. It is just as much your standing with yourself. To be
honorable is to be courageous. To be honorable is to be selfless and
loyal. To be honorable is to be in control of oneself. He who does
great things for his fatherland is honorable. Honor comes not from
money and possessions. But he who creates new values or gives other
work through his spirit or the work of his hands can thereby win
honor. It is also honorable to be the son of someone noble, someone
who has done much for his people and his state. But the son is
unworthy of his honor if he does not win it anew. Inherited honor does
not last forever, but always demands work and struggle. Honor is like
a crown. He who ceases to live and act like a king loses it - and has
lost it, even if he still wears it on his head. Not everyone can take
honor from another. The insult of a boy cannot harm one's honor. But
he who accepts an insult in a cowardly way loses honor before others.
We do not reply to an insult ourselves at first. That is why superior
leaders and judges are there. But if someone hits you, hit back, and
if someone strikes your face, strike him back. For we National
Socialists in Germany today, there is only one honor, one concept of
honor. Thee is no particular concept of honor for particular classes
any longer. National Socialism has given us all a new common sense of
honor. We know it. He who does not have it is not free, but a slave.
The least important worker today can be free and honorable, the
prosperous businessman a slave and a serf. That is the new law, which
gives honor only to the brave, the selfless, the loyal, the self
controlled, those who do everything for Germany that they can. The way
to honor is open for every German...

We show loyalty in daily life as well. Once again, a man's word is
dependable. Promises must be kept and will be kept. We do not need a
handshake and an oath. Each can depend on our word, because we again
have become loyal. Germany is the land of loyalty. It dwells in its
vast forests. It dwells in its knights and soldiers. It dwells again
in us. Loyalty is our honor. Who wants to be dishonorable amidst the
brave and the heroes?...

No one can do anything without faith. No one can even jump over a
ditch if he does not believe he can do it. The highest and most
important in a person is not knowledge and understanding, rather his
faith. Each is worth only as much as the faith he has. This new Reich
began with faith. The first party rally after the seizure of power was
called "The Victory of Faith." It grew and became great through faith.
It no longer grew from the faith of one man, but from the faith of us
all, and was borne by the strength of all. More than human strength
was present. Woe to those who do not believe. They are not on the side
of the strength of creation, rather annihilation. They are the
destroyers of the Reich. Faith is however stronger than all other
powers that can be found in this world.

We do not believe in a blind fate that leads people through their
lives. We do not believe that god's angels protect us in every step
that we take and keep us from falling. But we do believe in a godly
will that gives meaning to each each life that is born. Not an
arbitrary generally meaning, rather each life has its own particular
purpose and meaning. In the depths of our souls we sense whether we
act according to this meaning. One can call this conscience or
something else. It is there. We probably know the right path. We need
only ask. A voice within us gives the answer, and speaks of the godly
will that shows us the path we should go. This path is our fate. Each
has but one proper path. To follow it makes one happy to the highest
degree, even if it is a path that brings only poverty and toil. Any
path that leads away from the meaning and purpose of life is death and
sin. And even if the path seems ever so pleasant, you will sin every
day of your life. But you have the freedom to decide which path you
want to follow. No blind fate rules you. You go your own way. If you
follow the law in your own heart, it is the way to your god. It is the
way that comes from eternity and goes to eternity; in all the world
there is never an end, only transformation. There is no death that is
not also a beginning. Everything is part of the enormous plan of the
worlds, of which you are a part if you seek your path...

You should never do anything for pay, rather always because it is
worth it for its own sake. Did ever a German soldier go to war for the
sake of money? He did it for the Fatherland. He who asks us to be good
and pious for money seduces us and draws us away from god. He is the
devil's advocate, even if he promises us heaven. God is in the good
that we do, but he is not in a heaven that we will enjoy for eternity.
It is German to do something for its own sake. Such was always the
first and highest service to god in Germany, and thus it will remain
as long as our nation lives and the world is there to warn us...

There should be nothing false in you! The Jew is dishonest. He is born
that way and is ever full of deceit. You are born to be honest and to
remain honest. Your face does not lie, your words are true, your
actions are clear and can stand before all. You will say no word about
a comrade that you cannot say to his face. If you do so, you destroy
the community and injure your honor and that of the other. You become
dishonest. You would not think of stealing ten pfennig from a comrade.
How trivial that is when compared to stealing honor from someone who
does not realize it, who is unable to defend himself. Compared to
that, the thief one puts in prison has committed but a small offense.
Possessions are of less value than honor. A thief has more honor than
a slanderer. The first demand of honor is that one holds the honor of
others as their highest possession. The next demand of honor is that
one respects the property of others, which they have earned by hard
word and industry. It must again become such in Germany that one can
leave one's doors unlocked at night. It must again be such that every
lost piece of property is returned and that one can trust unknown
citizens with one's money and possessions. We want once again to have
the honor of a farmer. It should be as it still is in the north, where
one can leave one's house and land without locking the door, because
there is no dishonesty. An end must be made of all dishonest behavior.
It should be wrung out of us. There should be a new generation in
Germany, honest in word and deed, because honor is to it more
necessary than life itself. And woe to him who sins against it.

In the National Socialist state, there is no longer property with
which the individual can do with whatever he wishes. There is no
unlimited right of property, only a right that has been earned to
administer it for the good of the whole. Property is a loan. One may
certainly use it, but only to advance the interests of the whole. A
farmer has a field. It belongs to him. And it should belong to him,
for his ancestor tilled it, his fathers toiled on it. It belongs to
him as long as he tills it so that food for other citizens grows on
it. But the field must be taken from him if he leaves it fallow
because he is too lazy or unambitious to till it. A house! Why
shouldn't a German have a house, a home for his children. The
apartment in the city has taken a piece of the fatherland from the
German. His own house and garden give him again a piece of Germany,
and he has a right to that. But it is not an unearned gift. Property
must be earned by the work of the hand or the mind. The ambitious and
hard-working settler in newly-won land will plow more land for himself
and his children than others. Is that a failing on his part? He grows
grain not only for himself, but also for others. What he grows is his
property. But he who through treachery and deceit gains possession of
that which the mind and hands of others have created is a thief and a
deceiver. He is like the swindler and the Jew who, without creating
anything themselves, live greedily from that which they steal from
others using corrupted justice. To eliminate them in Germany is our
highest law. Once Germany's forests were freed of wolves. In the same
way, Germany must be freed of those who are worse and craftier than
wolves.

It is better that the individual suffers under the law than that there
be no law. Law defeats arbitrariness, for all are the same to it.
Humanity is not permitted to exercise supreme justice. But the law
gives the individual judge the measure of justice and punishment.
Justice no longer rests on what the individual thinks, rather the law
must be anchored in the sentiments of the whole people. That is the
case when a people has its own law, not that of another people. The
state is founded on justice. Injustice destroys it. A state without
justice is the playground of freebooters and highwaymen. The farmer,
the worker and the citizen need law to protect their labors. Law
protects honor, life, marriage, possessions, all those things that we
want and must have as the foundations of our state. The judge, fully
independent, projects justice. The policeman is not the representative
of some arbitrary order, rather of that which a people finds good and
right. No sacrifice is too great in the cause of justice. "It is
better that my son die than justice perish in the world," a great
Prussian king once said. We want justice once more to rule in Germany,
that great, unwritten justice that came to us with our blood. It
should be the law in Germany that all obey this justice. Justice is
not that which serves the individual, rather that which serves the
people. That is the supreme law of National Socialism, to which all
must bow.

>And killed many of them. Some by overwork, some by criminal neglect,
>others by outright murder.

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a
lie.

>


>And you think that is fine.
>
>

>But had no programs to kill them.
>
>

>I am certainly not going to defend the internment of innocent, loyal
>American and Canadian citizens just because of their ethnicity.
>
>You, however, seem to think it's OK to intern innocent, loyal citizens and
>kill them.

ADOLF HITLER
SCHWERIN, GUSTLOFF'S FUNERAL
SPEECH OF FEBRUARY 12, 1936

. . . BEHIND every murder stood the same power which is responsible
for this murder; behind these harmless insignificant fellow-countrymen
who were instigated and incited to crime stands the hate-filled power
of our Jewish foe, a foe to whom we had done no harm, but who none the
less sought to subjugate our German people and make of it its slave -
the foe who is responsible for all the misfortune that fell upon us in
1918, for all the misfortune which plagued Germany in the years that
followed. Those members of the Party and honorable comrades of ours
all fell, and the same fate was planned for others: many hundreds
survived as cripples or severely wounded, blinded or lamed; more than
40,000 others were injured. And among them were so many loyal folk
whom we all knew and who were near and dear to us, of whom we were
sure that they could never do any harm to anyone, that they had never
done any harm to anyone, whose only crime was that they devoted
themselves to the cause of Germany.

In the ranks of those whose lives were thus sacrificed there stood
also Horst Wessel, the singer who gave to the Movement its song, never
dreaming that he would join those spirits who march and have marched
with us.

And now on foreign soil National Socialism has gained its first
conscious martyr - a man who did nothing save to enter the lists for
Germany which is not only his sacred right but his duty in this world:
a man who did nothing save remember his homeland and pledge himself to
her in loyalty. He, too, was murdered, just like so many others. Even
at the time when on January 30 three years ago we had come into power,
precisely the same things happened in Germany, at Frankfort on the
Oder, at Köpenick, and again at Brunswick. The procedure was always
the same: a few men come and call someone out of his house and then
stab or shoot him down.

That is no chance: it is the same guiding hand which organized these
crimes and purposes to do so again. Now for the first time one who is
responsible for these acts has appeared in his own person. For the
first time he employs no harmless German fellow-countryman. It is a
title to fame for Switzerland, as it is for our own Germans in
Switzerland, that no one let himself be hired to do this deed so that
for the first time the spiritual begetter of the act must himself
perform the act. So our comrade has fallen a victim to that power
which wages a fanatical warfare not only against our German people but
against every free, autonomous, and independent people. We understand
the challenge to battle and we take up the gage! My dear comrade! You
have not fallen in vain!

>There's plenty. Of course, you simply cannot accept this so you deny it.

KAS: Welcome to American Dissident Voices, Mark Weber.

MW: Hello, Kevin.

KAS: What is the Institute for Historical Review, of which you are the
director?

MW: The Institute for Historical Review is more than twenty years old,
and what we try to do is, as we say, to "bring history into accord
with
the facts." That's quoting Harry Elmer Barnes, who is a kind of ideal,
or mentor, for the IHR. The IHR is most famous -- or, in some eyes,
infamous -- for what we've done with regard to the so-called
"holocaust"
-- the Jewish "holocaust" during World War II.

Over the years, the IHR has published quite a lot in its Journal, and
in
books, and at conferences to show that much of what the public has
been
led to believe about the fate of Europe's Jews during World War II is
wrong or exaggerated or distorted. And that has just enraged groups
like
the ADL [the Jewish "Anti-Defamation League" of B'nai Brith -- Ed.],
and
the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and so forth.

But that's not all the IHR does. We try to deal with a number of other
issues as well.

KAS: You call yourselves revisionists? Is that correct?

MW: That's right.

KAS: The word sounds odd to many listeners, I'm sure. It sounds you're
trying to revise history. Don't we already know what happened in
history? Why should it be revised?

MW: Right. It's a sorry thing that the word "revisionism" has taken on
the connotation it has. "Revisionism" just comes from the Latin "to
look
again at things"; and all good history is revisionist in the sense
that
always an effort is made -- and should be made -- to examine the past
in
the light of new information, of new research, and new insights. And
that's what the IHR does.

But the main point of revisionism is that it's skeptical history. It's
unofficial history. What people call, oftentimes, "standard" history
is
really just official history. And what revisionism tries to do -- and,
again, it is a term that many people, as you point out, have trouble
understanding -- revisionism means to take a skeptical new look at the
past based on what we know. But many people who are fearful of the
term
"revisionism" don't realize the extent to which they themselves are
victims of a kind of "official" history, that history can actually
change in our encyclopedias and our standard books and so forth. And
people think that whatever the "official" version is, is the "correct"
one. Hardly anyone who's studied history can fail to be surprised at
the
extent to which Americans are taught today a version of our own
history,
as Americans, that's very different from the version of history that
was
taught to our grandparents and great-grandparents fifty, sixty, or
seventy years ago, for example.

KAS: So you're saying that, over time, the "official" version changes.
And does it also change geographically, depending on where you are,
what
the "official" version actually is?

MW: Of course, yes. Just about everyone would be in favor, for
example,
of the kind of revisionism that took place in Eastern Europe and the
Soviet Union after the fall of Communism. The official history
presented
the Communist past in a way, of course, that was in keeping with the
Communist regime, and after the fall of the Communist regimes in
Eastern
Europe and the Soviet Union there was an enormous process of
revisionism
-- that is, of re-examining history on the basis of information that
had
been suppressed for many years. By the same token, in American history
for example, during World War II the Soviet Union was an ally of the
United States. And so the Soviet leader Stalin and the Soviet Union
were
presented in a positive way, in keeping with the wartime alliance.
After
the Cold War began and during the 1950s, the portrayal of the Soviet
Union and Stalin was a very different one. There are many, many
examples
of that. And revisionism is simply part and parcel of the natural and
important process of constantly re-examining our past based on new
insights and information.

KAS: If you're questioning the "official" version, doesn't that put
you
at odds with certain very powerful interests? Have these interests
tried
to retaliate in any way against you?

MW: The most obvious is that by calling into question this
almost-icon,
this mantra about the "holocaust," this endless emphasis about the
suffering or fate of Europe's Jews during World War II, the IHR has
enraged the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the Anti-Defamation League, the
World Jewish Congress, and other powerful Jewish organizations -- and
the state of Israel -- and their helpers. But the IHR really doesn't
care very much what they think. We just assume that's the attitude
they'll take. At the same time, we try to do our work in a way that is
responsible and sober. The IHR has succeeded, for example, in getting
what's called 501c3 status with the federal government; that is, it's
recognized by the federal government as a legitimate public-interest
educational enterprise, and people can donate money to the IHR and
deduct the amount for income tax purposes. Now, when the IHR got that
status, Tom Lantos, a very prominent Jewish Zionist member of
Congress,
screamed and yelled about it. The ADL issued a news release denouncing
it. And, on the basis of that, they sent another IRS agent out here to
go through our books, but they were unable to find any pretext to deny
us that.

But the most dramatic opposition to our work has come from Jewish
terrorists. In the late 70s and early 80s, there was a whole series of
drive-by shootings, bomb attacks, harassment, and violence against
employees that culminated on July 4th, 1984 in an arson attack on the
IHR offices that destroyed the IHR office and warehouse and resulted
in
immense damage. But since that time, it's been relatively peaceful.
It's
been rather peaceful.

KAS: That did not stop you, did it?

MW: No, it didn't. And it was very gratifying to see the tremendous
rallying that took place by people in the aftermath of that 1984 arson
attack.

KAS: We've gotten a sketch of what you do, and the fact that you have
some powerful enemies who don't want the facts of history to be looked
into. Who are you? Who are the leading personalities of the Institute?

MW: I'm the director; I've been employed full time since 1991. The IHR
Journal has an Editorial Advisory Board that is made up of scholars
from
many different countries who are distinguished in one way or the
other.
But probably most high-profile has been the support which the IHR has
received at its conferences. Two years ago, one of the speakers was
former Congressman Pete McCloskey, who was noted, during the time he
was
in Congress, as quite a liberal. He was the first Republican
Congressman
to call for the impeachment, years ago, of Richard Nixon. But we've
had
other prominent supporters who have been, as it were, conservative. At
the recent IHR conference we held in June, Joe Sobran was the banquet
speaker, and he's noted for his conservative views. For years, he was
a
senior editor at National Review. Also Professor Tony Martin of
Wellesley College in Massachusetts, who was actually born in the West
Indies -- and he's Black, spoke at the same conference. So the IHR has
support from people who are recognized, sometimes prominent: writers,
scholars, and thinkers of different political backgrounds. And one of
the points of the IHR is to get support for the work that we do,
regardless of people's political, racial, and other background.

KAS: What are your qualifications for the work that you're doing, for
directing an institute such as the IHR?

MW: Well [amused], I don't know about my qualifications? I was born
and
raised in Portland, Oregon; I went to school at Portland State
University; I have a Bachelor's degree from Portland State, but I
studied at the University of Munich in Germany; I studied at the
University of Illinois in Chicago; and I went to graduate school at
Indiana University in Bloomington where I got a Master's degree.
That's
sort of my qualifications, but in one sense the qualifications are not
one's degrees. It's one's commitment to what I regard as this enormous
struggle for truth in history, because much of what we are told in our
society is a version of history that is not only wrong and skewed and
distorted, but dangerously so.

KAS: What do you mean? Why is it dangerous, and who's doing the
skewing?

MW: The most obvious expression of this, and one that the IHR and I
have
spoken about and we've written about quite a lot -- especially in the
last several years -- is Jewish, Zionist power. In the United States,
Jews wield immense, tremendous power and influence, way out of
proportion to the tiny percentage of the population that they make up.
And this affects not only our policy, especially in the Middle East,
but
how we look at history. And this is manifest, perhaps most obviously,
in
the enormous way that the so-called "holocaust" is presented and
emphasized in our schoolbooks, in our schools, in our television, in
our
motion pictures, and so forth. And this presents just a very skewed
version of history in which Jews are presented as innocent victims,
people who deserve and should be given great support and help, and
that
the "lesson," so-called, of the "holocaust" is never do anything that
Jewish groups object to.

KAS: I've often noted that Americans in general, and American students
in particular, can always give you the "six million" figure for Jewish
losses in World War II. But if you ask them how many Russians died, or
how many Americans died, or how many British people died, they just
give
you a blank stare.

MW: Yes, it's a point I've made many times: the "six million" figure
is
repeated incessantly. It's an inaccurate and it's a mythical figure.
But
it's repeated constantly. Americans have no corresponding
understanding,
or almost no Americans have any corresponding knowledge of the
suffering
of other people. It's all part and parcel of what I call a kind of
"victimization hierarchy" in America, in which Jews are sort of number
one, and then other groups, depending on their status in society, are
further down the list. It's a dangerous and skewed version of history
that clouds everything that we do.

KAS: So you would definitely state that Jewish groups have distorted
and/or exaggerated their losses during World War II?

MW: No question. At the conference, for example, two years ago, former
Congressman McCloskey went into great detail about how the
Anti-Defamation League in particular does everything that it can to
suppress, silence, and shut up anyone who speaks about history in a
way
that Jewish groups regard as contrary to their interests, particularly
on the Middle East. It's more and more obvious, I think, to people
around the world just how skewed America's policy -- but not only
policy, but its perception of the world -- is because of Jewish
Zionist
influence in our mass media, in our educational system, and in our
political system.

KAS: Are there any falsehoods about the "holocaust" which stand out as
particularly absurd or particularly worthy of correction for our
audience today?

MW: Well, it's almost like shooting fish in a barrel. One story that
is
still told sometimes is this fable that the Germans made bars of soap
from the corpses of murdered Jews during World War II. And this story
has been given tremendous life over the years. It's appeared in
textbooks; it's appeared in important speeches. It's given great
prominence. It's utterly untrue. It's very lurid, it's ghastly -- but
completely untrue. And it's admitted to be untrue now, even by Jewish
groups -- if you press them on the matter. But the fact that it took
on
this tremendous life for so long is just typical of the way in which
the
most defamatory, horrible stories can be told about Germans or about
any
other non-Jewish group that's in disfavor at the moment -- without
correction, without fear of contradiction.

In the years right after World War II, and at the Nuremburg Trials, it
was claimed that people were killed in gas chambers in camps all over
Europe, including Buchenwald, Dachau, Auschwitz, and so forth. Many of
these claims have just been quietly abandoned over the years: No one
seriously claims anymore that anyone was gassed at Dachau or
Buchenwald
or at camps in Germany proper. One of the interesting aspects of this
is
that the so-called "eyewitnesses" and testimony and evidence for these
claims is therefore obviously not true.

KAS: And yet people were punished for those alleged crimes.

MW: Right. People were punished for those alleged crimes. This is just
part and parcel of this distortion; there are numerous examples. For
years, at Auschwitz, it was officially claimed that four million
people
were killed there, and that was supposedly proven at the Nuremberg
Trials in 1945-1946. In recent years, the numbers have been
drastically
reduced. They're still dropping down. Oftentimes the response to that
is
to say "So what if it's one million or four million or 100,000 or even
two?" There's an argument to be made for that, but the essential point
isn't over quibbling about numbers or anything like that, although
that's what historians are supposed to do. The essential point really,
I
think, is the way in which there's this tremendous political capital
made out of one chapter of history, designed to gain sympathy and
support. And the result has been a massive shakedown, kind of a
blackmail that's resulted in billions of dollars extracted from
Switzerland, from Germany, from European corporations, and from
American
taxpayers.

KAS: It's a kind of moral blackmail, I think.

MW: And some Jewish writers have even used those very terms. One of
the
striking things -- and Americans, I think need to understand this --
is
that the views of history that we are very used to, and comfortable
with, are not universal. The view of Middle East history that comes
from
the movie Exodus or the insights on European history that come from
the
movie The Sound of Music are gross distortions. They're just
perversions
of the truth. They may be very comfortable for many Americans to
believe, but they're not only perversions of the truth: Around the
world, there's an increasing awareness that how America looks at the
world and the Middle East is just out of line. Unfortunately, many
Americans still haven't "gotten it." Fortunately, millions more
Americans, I think, are "getting it." It's obvious, I think, to anyone
who has spent much time living overseas, that how the Middle East
situation is presented in the daily press is very different than it is
here in the American press.

KAS: In a moment, I'd like to talk about the linkage between Holocaust
Revisionism and the present situation in the Middle East, but first
I'd
just like to say that when you talk about "the 'holocaust'" it seems
to
me that the objection that should be raised is not so much to the word
"holocaust" but to the word "the" -- the article that precedes it. As
if
it's the only suffering of any national group in history!

MW: Yes, that's right. You know, the word 'holocaust' when used to
apply
collectively to what happened to Europe's Jews in World War II, didn't
come into popular usage until the 1970s. Normally, with the passage of
time, particularly horrible or gruesome or dark chapters of history
tend
to recede into the past and recede in importance. But just the
opposite
has happened with regard to what's called "the holocaust." You're
right,
even the very use of this term in this way is to give a kind of label
to
what was really a lot of individual things that happened rather than
some overarching phenomenon.

KAS: It seems to me that the suffering of the Germans after World War
II
certainly exceeded in scope anything that happened to the Jews. And
also
what happened to the Ukrainians in the pre-war period was horrific.

MW: I think the evidence is clear that more Germans than Jews were
killed during World War II. One of the things that was an important
beginning experience in my life was, when I was living in Europe, to
learn for the first time about the tremendous suffering, killings, and
expulsions that took place -- the victimization of Germans and other
Eastern Europeans in what is now Poland, in Czechoslovakia, and so
forth
in 1945 to 1948. We hear almost nothing about that in America. And
again, that's just part of the tremendous distortion, perversion, and
skewing of history that we see.

KAS: Isn't it true that in some parts of the world -- many parts of
the
world, perhaps -- it's actually a crime now to question the Jewish
view
of events during World War II?

MW: This is a point that the IHR has publicized a lot. In some
countries
-- Germany, France, Holland -- it's a crime to, as they say, "deny the
holocaust." The amazing thing is that it's only one chapter of
history:
For the sake of argument, suppose for a moment that the so-called
"holocaust deniers," the revisionists, are wrong. Justice is not
justice
unless it's applied equally. To criminalize dissident views about just
one chapter of history, and not others, is a form of injustice. People
today in Europe have been, and are, fined, exiled, imprisoned, for
expressing skepticism or dissident views on this chapter of history.
It's an outrage. The very fact that it's hardly known in America is in
itself an expression of the tremendous power that put those laws into
effect in the first place.

KAS: It's a strange kind of "truth" that has to be protected by laws
and
guns and prisons.

MW: Indeed, yes.

KAS: There is something going in Australia now. The Adelaide Institute
Web site is being forced off?

MW: Just the other day, the Federal Court in Australia ordered
Frederick
Töben, who runs something called the Adelaide Institute -- it's a
Holocaust Revisionist Web site -- to shut down the site and to
eliminate
everything on his site and on any other site that questions whether
people were killed in gas chambers at Auschwitz, that questions
whether
the "holocaust" occurred -- I think I'm quoting from the language of
the
court ruling. It's outrageous. This was considered a violation of the
so-called "Racial Discrimination Act" in Australia. Töben tried to
argue
that the Act shouldn't apply because Jews constitute a religious
group.
But the Jewish organizations insisted that Jews should be regarded as
a
racial group. That alone is rather interesting because, when it is to
the advantage of Jewish groups, they will insist just the opposite.

And the law in Australia is similar to the laws in other countries: It
merely requires that one or two Jews claim to feel offended, and the
law
goes into effect. Well, a lot of things on the Internet are offensive
to
a lot of people. The fact that it's applied in this way, and that
Jewish
groups take advantage of it in this way, and that the courts uphold
their protests, is again an expression of the kind of special
treatment,
the privileged treatment, that Jewish groups receive in Australia and
everywhere in the Western world.


On our next program, we will continue our conversation with Mr. Weber
with a discussion of the impact of Jewish power -- and Jewish history
distortion -- on American Middle Eastern policy and on the looming war
in that region. Be sure to be listening one week from today.

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>Oh, please. You've been shown the falsity of this many times.

Reviewed by Mark Weber

In response to Fred Leuchter's findings about the alleged wartime
extermination gas chambers, the Holocaust lobby has mounted a
well-orchestrated campaign of slander, distortion, half-truth and
falsehood to discredit him and destroy his career as a consultant to
state governments on execution technology.

At the forefront of this effort have been the Paris-based Beate
Klarsfeld Foundation and a US-based group that calls itself "Holocaust
Survivors & Friends in Pursuit of Justice." An important propaganda
tool in this international campaign is this angry, awkwardly written
and poorly organized 135-page polemic, which is perhaps the most
ambitious effort so far to discredit Leuchter and his findings.
Published jointly by these two organizations in 1990, it bears the
pretentious and rather bombastic title Truth Prevails: Demolishing
Holocaust Denial: The End of the Leuchter Report.

As Journal readers know, this is not the first time that these two
groups have sought to discredit Holocaust Revisionism with a
book-length publication. In 1989 the Klarsfeld Foundation released
Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers, an ambitious
564-page work by French researcher Jean-Claude Pressac. (See the
reviews of Pressac's book in the IHR Journal by Mark Weber, Summer
1990, and Robert Faurisson, Spring and Summer 1991.)

Truth Prevails consists of a preface by editor Shelly Shapiro (who is
also director of "Holocaust Survivors & Friends"), six essays
(including two by Jean-Claude Pressac), and a short commentary by
Serge Klarsfeld. In spite of its erudite pretension, this is a poorly
written, edited and organized work. Its language is often snide and
crude.

All the same, Truth Prevails has had a measurable impact. Libelous and
error-ridden articles based on it have appeared in daily newspapers
and weekly Jewish community papers around the country. In addition to
the usual and untruthful attacks against the IHR and Holocaust
Revisionism in general, these articles viciously attack Leuchter as a
man.

Throughout this book, Revisionists are routinely referred to as
"Holocaust deniers," a formulation that suggests a medieval
Inquisition against religious heretics who have blasphemed against a
sacred dogma. By treating "Holocaust denial" as the most terrible sin
that anyone can commit these days, this book serves to underscore the
way that the Holocaust has become, for many, a kind of religion.

In the preface, "Holocaust denial" is also compared to denying the
existence of slavery in 18th and 19th century America, or denying the
atomic bombing of Hiroshima. However, one might reasonably ask, if
"Holocaust denial" is really so obviously absurd, why bother about it?
No rational person wastes time refuting those who might deny the 1945
bombing of Hiroshima.

The preface also sets the tone of Truth Prevails, where the reader is
told: "The incomprehensible death factories 'with their bulging gas
chambers and smoke-belching crematoria eclipsed man's visions of
hell.' The name of Auschwitz means the epitomy [sic] of evil."
Overlooking the emotion-charged rhetoric here, it should be pointed
out that, as anyone who is even superficially familiar with the
reality of Auschwitz knows, there were no "smoke-belching crematoria"
there (or anywhere, for that matter). Like similar facilities
elsewhere, the crematory facilities at Auschwitz were structurally not
able to "belch" smoke. (Accordingly, Allied aerial reconnaissance
photos taken of the camp complex in 1944 - at the height of the
supposed extermination process there - show absolutely no trace of any
smoke whatsoever.)

Editor Shapiro also expresses outrage at a reference (in the British
edition of the Leuchter Report) to an inmates' swimming pool at
Auschwitz. In point of fact, there was such a pool. (On this, see: R.
Lenski, The Holocaust on Trial, pp. 38, 132, 142, 358-359, 385, and,
R. Faurisson, IHR Journal, Summer 1991, pp. 133-134.)

Truth Prevails seeks to discredit the Leuchter Report by, above all,
attacking its author's qualifications. A main purpose of this book is
to prove that Leuchter lacks the expertise he claims, and to show,
instead, that he is a pretentious fraud. "Our goal," the preface
explains, "is to show Leuchter's lack of expertise" as an execution
hardware specialist, and "to demonstrate that 'The Leuchter Report' is
not a credible scientific analysis. . ." (p. 1).

Charging that "Leuchter does not have the scientific background or
experience despite his claims" (p. 11), Truth Prevails insists that
Leuchter is simply not qualified to give an expert opinion about the
alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz and Majdanek.

In this regard, much is made of the fact that Judge Ron Thomas
declined to accept the Leuchter Report as a defense exhibit during the
1988 Zündel trial. Strictly speaking, this is true. But Truth Prevails
essentially ignores the fact that Judge Thomas did decide to accept
Leuchter as an expert of homicidal gas chamber technology, and
accordingly permitted him to give opinion evidence. During his
testimony, Leuchter was allowed to read extensively from his Report,
which became part of the court record.

As detailed in an article published elsewhere in this issue of the
Journal, Leuchter's impressive expertise in the field of execution
hardware is a matter of public record, and has been authoritatively
and publicly confirmed. For example, in a letter of January 13, 1988,
Missouri state prison director William Armontrout wrote: "Mr. Leuchter
is an engineer specializing in gas chambers and executions. He is well
versed in all areas and is the only consultant in the United States
that I know of." Testifying in the 1988 Zuendel trial, Armontrout also
declared that he had consulted with Leuchter on the design,
maintenance and operation of the Missouri state gas chamber, and
reaffirmed that, to the best of his knowledge, Leuchter is the only
such consultant in the United States.

As part of its vicious assault against Leuchter's character, this book
charges that financial greed was the motive behind his forensic
investigation of the alleged extermination gas chambers, and his
conclusion that they were never used as killing facilities. Leuchter's
motivation, Pressac writes here, was "to collect the steep fee he
asked of Zundel and which the latter paid him." (p. 32)

In another chapter, contributor Arthur Goodman provides a mendacious
explanation of how Leuchter was chosen to carry out his forensic
investigation (p. 76):

Faurisson quickly applied himself to the task of finding an "engineer"
who would testify for Zündel. Very soon thereafter, Faurisson dug up
the hitherto unknown Leuchter whom he contacted and who was only too
willing to earn the money, gain the notoriety and establish a
reputation as the one man whose investigation would sustain the
[Revisionist] thesis . . . Leuchter [was] only too eager to be won
over . . .

In fact (and as explained in more detail elsewhere in this issue of
the Journal), Leuchter's motives in conducting his forensic
investigation of the alleged wartime gas chambers in Poland were
entirely honorable and professional. Prof. Robert Faurisson and Ernst
Zündel sought out Leuchter not because of any pre-existing views or
prejudices he may have had on this issue, but solely because he was,
at that time, the only acknowledged execution gas chamber specialist
in the United States.

While it is true that he was paid a standard fee by Zündel, this is
not at all remarkable. Any expert witnesses who testifies in a court
case under such circumstances is normally paid a fee in keeping with
his or her professional standing. Christopher Browning, for example,
the star prosecution witness in the 1988 Zündel trial, received 150
(Canadian) dollars an hour for his services.

Shapiro and the Klarsfelds are understandably angry that, in spite of
their efforts, the major media continues to acknowledge Leuchter's
expertise as America's foremost expert of execution technology.
Shapiro expresses outrage that "major news organizations" have given
him with "a semblance of respectability and credibility."

The Atlantic monthly, for example, is taken to task for an illustrated
article about Leuchter in the February 1990 issue. In this piece,
attorney and author Susan Lehman factually described Leuchter as the
nation's only commercial supplier of execution equipment . . . A
trained and accomplished engineer, he is versed in all types of
execution equipment. He makes lethal-injection machines, gas chambers,
and gallows, as well as electrocution systems. [He] . . . probably
knows more about electric chair technology than anyone else.

The Zionist Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith responded to this
rather flattering profile with an angry letter of protest. In her
reply to the ADL, Susan Lehman correctly pointed out that Leuchter's
findings about the Holocaust "gas chambers," and his testimony in the
Zündel trial, "have no direct bearing. . .on the subject of my
report." In his essay in Truth Prevails, Charles R. Allen, Jr.,
dismisses Lehman's reply as "insolence."

An even greater calamity, in the view of Shapiro and her friends, was
a profile of Leuchter broadcast nationwide May 10, 1990, on the widely
viewed ABC television news program "Prime Time Live." Co-host Diane
Sawyer described Leuchter as "the country's foremost expert at
creating, designing and maintaining execution equipment."

Particularly galling to the Shapiro crowd is the fact that ABC news
television went ahead with its profile of "Dr. Death" even after it
had been "informed" of Leuchter's shocking views on the Holocaust
extermination story, and of his links with the infamous Institute for
Historical Review. Shelly Shapiro and Beate Klarsfeld had even met
with producer Bob Currie to urge him not to air the report.

Finally, The New York Times is castigated for prominently featuring an
article, October 13, 1990, which included a front-page photograph of
Leuchter, that describes him as "the nation's leading adviser to
states on capital punishment." Leuchter, the article also reported,
has "advised 16 states on every kind of execution equipment. Four
states have bought his lethal injection systems. . ."

This unequivocal acknowledgment of Leuchter's expertise by the
nation's most influential daily paper is all the more significant
because its author, and the paper's editors, were entirely aware of
the Shapiro/Klarsfled team's criticisms of Leuchter when the article
went to press.

And much more recently, Leuchter's standing as the premier expert of
execution hardware was affirmed in "The Execution Protocol," a
television report broadcast November 1, 1992, on the Discovery cable
television network, as well as on the session of the popular Phil
Donahue show broadcast nationwide November 13, 1992.

Truth Prevails tries to explain away these embarrassing tributes by
contending that Leuchter has somehow been able to trick or fool these
savvy periodicals into accepting his bogus claims of expertise. If
Leuchter was actually able to somehow "take in" the media as this book
suggests, he must be gifted with truly extraordinary powers of
persuasion.

Truth Prevails ruefully notes that Leuchter "is still sought by the
media as the only available spokesman on the technology of the death
penalty in the U.S." (p. 24). One can be certain that if there is
anyone (besides Leuchter) in the United States who could plausibly be
portrayed as a "real" expert on execution hardware, Shapiro and her
diligent colleagues certainly would have found him. Interestingly,
though, the Shapiro/Klarsfeld team has not produced any such person:
To date, the best they have been able to come up with is a confused
and unqualified suburban French pharmacist, Jean-Claude Pressac.

Fittingly, much of this book consists of two essays by Pressac that
seek to refute the Leuchter Report on technical grounds. (For a point
by point response to Pressac's critique of Leuchter's findings, see
the detailed essay by Paul Grubach in this issue of the Journal.)

Shapiro and Klarsfeld use a grotesque double standard in deciding just
who qualifies as a gas chamber expert. While Leuchter is dismissed as
an untrained fraud and crank, Pressac is praised here (by Serge
Klarsfeld, on page 29) as "one of the world's rare research
specialists in gas chamber extermination technique." This description
is almost laughable in light of Pressac's lack of any formal training,
credentials or recognized expertise in architecture, engineering,
history or document analysis.

Leuchter is not this book's only target. Prof. Faurisson is accused of
"intellectual dishonesty" (p. 36), and Ernst Zündel is referred to as
Canada's "prime practitioner of Holocaust denial" (p. 22), as if he is
the high priest of an evil satanic cult, and historian David Irving is
called a "Nazi propagandist" (p. 85).

In a ten-page chapter by H. L. Silets, a specialist of legal history
at the University of Cambridge, the 1946 "Zyklon B" trial is cited as
irrefutable proof that German officials used hydrogen cyanide gas from
Zyklon to exterminate Jews in wartime concentration camps. Dr. Bruno
Tesch, the German businessman who headed the company that supplied
Zyklon, and his assistant and business manager Karl Weinbacher were
the two main defendants in the 1946 trial in Hamburg. They were found
guilty by the British military court, sentenced to death, and hanged.

Revisionist scholars are familiar with this important trial, which was
a travesty of justice. (Retired American research chemist Dr. William
B. Lindsey provides a thorough examination of it in a carefully
researched article in the Fall 1983 IHR Journal.) Even Jean-Claude
Pressac has rightly castigated this trial as unjust and probably a
"masquerade." (J.-C. Pressac, Auschwitz, 1989, p. 17.)

A key witness in the trial was Charles (or Paul) Bendel, a Jewish
doctor who had been an inmate physician in Birkenau in 1944. His
"eyewitness" testimony about extermination gassings in the camp helped
to send Tesch and Weinbacher to the gallows. As even Pressac has
confirmed, Bendel's testimony is demonstrably wrong on numerous key
points. (J.-C. Pressac, Auschwitz, 1989, pp. 469-472.)

Perhaps most remarkably, this British court determined that, of a
grand total of six million people killed in the German camps, no less
than four and a half million were "systematically exterminated" with
Zyklon B at Auschwitz-Birkenau alone. (United Nations War Crimes
Commission, Law Reports of Trials of War Criminals, London: HMSO,
1947, Vol. 1, p. 94. See also Nuremberg document NI-12207.)

As further proof of extermination gassings at Auschwitz, Truth
Prevails contributor Silets cites the postwar "confession" of former
Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss. However, as even prominent Holocaust
historians (including J.-C. Pressac in his 1989 book) now concede, key
statements in this "confession" are quite demonstrably untrue.
Moreover, it has been indisputably established that Höss' infamous
"confession" was extracted by brutal torture. (See: R. Faurisson, IHR
Journal, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.)

Beate Klarsfeld has announced that Leuchter "has to understand that in
denying the Holocaust, he cannot remain unpunished." (JTA dispatch,
Detroit Jewish News, March 1, 1991.) In this spirit, Ms. Shapiro has
boasted about the measures that she and her collaborators have taken
to pressure public officials, prison wardens, state correction
departments, politicians and journalists into blacklisting Leuchter.

In August 1990, for example, the Shapiro/Klarsfeld group succeeded in
pressuring the Illinois Department of Corrections into canceling its
$8,320 consulting contract with Leuchter to inspect and supervise
administration of its lethal injection equipment. (p. 17) Complaints
were also made to state prison officials in Alabama, North Carolina,
California, Arizona and Maryland. In one state, a lawmaker said that
to retain Leuchter as an execution consultant would conflict with the
state's requirement of mandatory "Holocaust studies" for every public
school pupil. (For more on this campaign, see the IHR Newsletter,
July-August 1991, p. 3.)

Sadly, this insidious campaign to "punish" Leuchter for his insolent
refusal to toe the Holocaust line has been largely successful. As he
explains in his essay elsewhere in this issue of the Journal, his
livelihood has largely been destroyed.

Although it is actually little more than a mean-spirited, bigoted and
error-ridden polemic, Truth Prevails is not ineffective as a work of
Holocaust propaganda. It will undoubtedly continue to have an impact
among the ignorant. All the same, its very existence is somewhat
gratifying because it is a tangible expression of the growing impact
of Holocaust Revisionism.


>>
>> No, I meant that it was a Jewish think to say.
>
>Why?

Why do you think Hilter didn't read the Bible? Did he say he didn't?
Actually they found Bibles and other religious writings in his library
and he underlined some verses.
You are the one who is proving a negative. It's obvious that you
or someone else just made that up. How can you know that he didn't
read the Bible? And that is what your side is all about. You feel free
to just make up anything you want. And you are so corrupted by Jews
that you can't even see that is what you are doing.

>
>Not true. That's just a mindless mantra.
>
>What led you to surrender your brain?
>

Topaz

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On 8 Jun 2005 18:47:20 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote:


>
>In fact, It's from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's protocol
>#12.
>That means it was originally written by a Frenchman named JOLI as a
>satire on the Napoleon dynasty.It therefore had no basis in fact and
>nothing to do with Jews.
>

by W. Creutz

On the 16th, 17th and 18th of August 1921 the London "Times"
published a series of articles in which it asserts that the
PROTOCOLS are only a clumsy fraud produced by a conscienceless
plagiarist who paraphrased a book published in Brussels in
1865. That book called "DIALOGUES IN HELL" is reported to be
written by a "Frenchman" named Maurice Joly.

The "Times" published several passages from both books in
parallel columns thus proving beyond any doubt the spiritual
kinship between them. The forgery version seemed to be well
established.

The "Times" emphasized carefully its standing in regard to
the Jewish press as being absolutely non-partisan and pretended
to have exposed this "remarkable forgery" for the sake of
the truth only, as it was very important that this "LEGEND"
of the "PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION" shall
disappear as soon as possible and for ever...

According to the "Times" a "correspondent" in Constantinople
became acquainted, by mere luck, with a certain Russian.
(Wishing to remain incognito, he was referred to as "Mr. X,")
This mysterious stranger handed the correspondent of the
"Times" the particular booklet by Joly which made it
possible to discover the "forgery."...

Who was this "Frenchman," the author of the "Dialogues in
Hell?" This problem is solved by Gottfried zur Beck in his
preface to the German edition of the "Protocols." In which
we find that Maurice Joly, according to the record, in
his infancy was circumcised as Moses Joel!...

The satanical development of ideas of this book is
extracted from a still older work, thus proving Joly
to be a plagiarist himself.

"The Dialogues Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" is
the title of this older book, published by Franz Duncker
at Berlin in 1850. The author of this book was the Jew
Jacob Venedey. He was born in 1805 in Cologne, Germany;
expelled from Germany he settled in Paris in 1835...
Prosecuted by the police for his subversive activities,
he was protected and defended (as was the case with
Joly) by Cremieux. Venedey was an intimate friend of
Karl Marx (alias Jew Mordechai).

With Marx's assistance he organized in 1847 "The
Communist Workers League. In 1843 he visited England
and organized another secret society having as a
purpose the promotion of Israel's world domination.

Thus it is definitely proved that both books that served
as a foundation for the Protocols, were written by
Jews, both of whom were friend of the founder of the
"Alliance Israelite Universelle," ADOLPH
ISRAEL CREMIEUX. Under these circumstances it can not
be doubted that all three books are the product
of Jewish thought.

Anyone who will study carefully these books should be very
much surprised to hear the Jews whining about Jews being
innocently persecuted and forced to defend themselves
against "Lies & Defamation." There can be no talk about
"forgery" whatsoever, as we have to do only with slightly
different versions of "ideas" coming from the same powerful
political and economical circle of influence.
The secret society that was organized by Karl Marx and
Venedey was in fact only an outgrowth of an older Jewish
organization known as "The Jewish League for Culture and
Education," which already existed in 1819. The program
for this league was taken over by A. Cremieux and
further developed.

One easily understands the "Aims" of this "league" if
he reads carefully the letter written by the Jew Baruch
Levy to Karl Marx. Here is what he writes:
"The Jewish people taken collectively will be its own
Messiah. His reign over the universe will be obtained by
the unification of the human races and through the
elimination of frontiers. A Universal Republic will come
into being in which the Sons of Israel will become the
directing element. We know how to dominate the masses.
The governments of all nations will gradually fall,
through victory of the proletariat, into the hands
of Judah. All private property will become the possession
of the Princes OF Israel - they will own the wealth
of all lands. Thus will be realized the promise of the
Talmud that when the time of the Messiah comes the
Jews will hold under their keys the property of all
the peoples of the world."

The spiritual relation between this letter and the
Protocols is exactly the same as between an
acorn and an oak. This dreadful plan is transmitted
into action in our midst every day.

The "Pan-Europa" a periodical of Count Coudenhove-Calergi
proclaimed that the aristocracy of the future will be
Jewish. (In the "New York Times" of April 14, 1933,
Samuel Untermyer made a statement to the same effect,
claiming that the Jew is the aristocrat of the
world. -Editor.) The character and behavior of this
new "aristocracy" is substantially different from the
old. The names of Bela Kun (Cohen), Kurt Eisner as well
as the Jew-Soviet "nobility" will be written for all
time in world history in letters of blood.

An interesting article appeared in the newspaper

"Die Front" published in Zurich, Switzerland on
January 3, 1934, which reported that a group of
Jews, more powerful and more influential than the
Zionists, has organized a "Cultural Movement" on
a world-wide scale with the purpose of putting
every country under Jewish domination.
Always the same leading idea - not the slightest
variation in the program.

The French magazine "Libre Parole" in its issue of
November 1933, page 27, and earlier "La Vielle
France" issue of March 10, 192 1, published a
remarkable speech of Rabbi Reichhorn delivered
in Prague in 1869 over the tomb of the Grand
Rabbi Simeon-ben-Ihuda; he said in part:

"For centuries the Sons of Israel have been despised
and persecuted, but they have fought bravely to
prepare the way for victory. Now they are
approaching their aim. They already dominate
the economic life of the damned Christians;
their influence is just as great in politics
and in moral fields. At the wished for hour,
fixed in advance, we shall let loose the
Revolution, which by ruining all classes of
Christians will definitely enslave Christendom
to us. Thus will be accomplished the promise of
God made to his people."

This promise is already accomplished in Russia. What
country will be next to experience the same tragic
fate?

A Jewish weekly, *Judische Pressezentrale*, published
in Zurich, Switzerland, claims in its issue of
December 15, 1933, that the Protocols were
fabricated by the Russian secret police in 1905
shortly after the Japanese war.

It is unwise to defend a cause by simply insisting
on something, that could easily be proved false.
How is it possible that a document, which existed
20 years previously, in three languages, could be
concocted in 19O5 - a document with which
several persons were already familiar?
That Jewish assertion is simply ridiculous. It
has been convincingly proved that the Protocols were
written first in Hebrew, then in French and last in Russian...

It is through persons who lived in Odessa at that time that
information was obtained that a manuscript of the Protocols
in the Jewish language was circulated among the Jews.
The Jew BERNSTEIN, publisher of the "FREE PRESS" of Detroit,
Michigan, admitted in the presence of William Cameron
secretary to Henry Ford, that HE HAD PERSONALLY READ
THE "PROTOCOLS" IN THE HEBREW LANGUAGE IN ODESSA...

This information is mostly drawn from L. Fry's work:
"Waters Flowing Eastward." It is corroborated by a
statement made by Philip Stepanov, Chamberlain,
Privy Councillor and former Procurator of the Holy
Synod at Moscow; it is witnessed by
Prince DIMITRI GALITZlN...

It has been often asserted that the Protocols, which are a
strategic plan for the conquest of the world and domination
by Israel were read at the First Zionist Congress in 1897 at
Basle, Switzerland. The Jews always deny it most vigorously
and use as an argument the fact that the official record of the
Congress makes no mention of it. That sort of argument has no
value at all, when one takes into consideration that the furious
differences between Ginzberg and Herzl were also not mentioned
in the record. The officially published record is incomplete
and does not possess any convincing power in that respect.

Only a few participants at that Congress are still alive;
one of them Marcus Ehrenpriss the chief Rabbi of Stockholm,
Sweden, explained in the "Judisk Tidskrift" no. 6, 1926, that
the triumph of Israel was prophetically foreseen by Hertzl
20 years ahead.

Thirty million Christians were sacrificed in the World War - but
the Jewish aims were achieved. Russia was destroyed

The secret record of the Zionist Congress in Basle was secured
by the Russian government through the efforts of secret service
man Ratchkovsky, who bought it from two Jews Eno Asev and
Rabbi From. The latter sought later security in a monastery
in Jugoslavia, where he died in 1925. When the secret record
of the Basle Congress was examined by the Russian police it
was discovered to their great surprise that the
acquired documents were identical with the Protocols.

Ratchkovsky died suddenly under' "mysterious
circumstances," shortly after making an important
report to the Chief of Gendarmes, General Kourloff.
Kourloff was convinced that Ratchkovsky was murdered.
Professor Nilus was subjected to inhuman tortures by the Cheka
and died in 1929.

All these circumstances form a chain of steel links, each of
which can be checked up. The witnesses introduced are not
unknown adventurers, but are educated and trustworthy
persons of high social rank.

We really feel obliged to ask the "Judische
Pressezentrale" to explain how was it possible
for all those persons to read, translate and
circulate documents ten, fifteen and twenty
years before they were composed? The Jews
pretend that the "Protocols" were concocted by two
members of the secret police of Russia. Suppose, but
the whole prophetical program has since turned
into reality!!!...


Here is the plan invented by the "Learned Elders
of Zion," the master program laid down in
the "Protocols."

"WE SHALL":

1. Seduce and demoralize the youth with false doctrines.

2. Destroy the family life.

3. Dominate humanity by preying upon their lower instincts and vices.

4. Debase and vulgarize art, and introduce filth in Literature.

5. Destroy respect for religions; undermine the reputation of the
clergy through scandalous stories and back up the so called
Higher Criticism so that the old fundamental faith is shattered
and quarrels and controversies become permanent in the churches.

6. Introduce the habit for luxuries, crazy fashions and spendthrift
ideas so that the ability for enjoying clean and plain pleasures is
lost.

7. Divert the attention of the people by public amusements, sports,
games, prize contests, etc., so that there is no time for thinking.

8. Confuse and bewilder the minds of the people by false theories
and shatter the nerves and health by continuously introducing
new poisons. (Alcohol, nicotine, drugs, demineralized
foods, etc. -Editor.)

9. Instigate class hatred and class war among the different
classes of people.

10. Dispossess the old aristocracy, which still keeps up high
traditions by excessive taxes and replace it with the "Knights
of the Golden Calf."

11. Poison the relations between the employees and employers
through strikes and lockouts so as to ruin the possibility of
productive co-operation.

12. Demoralize by all means the higher classes of society and
by adverse publicity raise the hate of the people toward them.

13. Use industry to ruin agriculture and then in its turn
destroy industry by wild speculation.

14. Spread all possible utopian theories so as to bring the
people into a labyrinth of impractical ideas.

15. Raise the rate of wages, which however will not bring any
advantage to the workers for at the same time we shall produce
a rise in the price of the first necessities of life.

16. Cause diplomatic friction and misunderstanding between
states which will increase international suspicions and hate
thereby greatly augmenting armaments.

17. Introduce in all states, general suffrage so that the
destiny of nations depend upon ignorant people.

18. Overthrow all monarchies and substitute republics for
them; in so far as possible fill important state offices
with persons who are involved in some unlawful affair and
who will, from fear of being exposed, remain our
obedient servants...


Was the "Times" justified or not in saying: "If the "Protocols"
were really written by the Learned Elders of Zion, then everything
that was attempted and done against the Jews, is justified,
necessary and urgent"?

Topaz

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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:12:00 -0000, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
McVay OBC) wrote:

>
>Yet another anti-White moron rears his hate-filled head out of the
>slime....
>
>"The Jews control the media!"
>"The Jews control the media!"
>"The Jews control the media!"

But they do.

>


>..... but what this foolish mantra is really saying is this:
>
>"White people are too stupid to think for themselves."
>"White people are too stupid to acquire capital, or invest in the media."


Here is a quote from a very pro-Jewish book that was first


published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."


The money system we have today is called the debt-money
system. It is evil and needs to be replaced. The only way money comes
into existence today is when it is borrowed. There is no freely
existing money supply, but only borrowed money that needs to be paid
back to bankers with interest. If all the money that was owed to
bankers was ever paid back there would be no money left in circulation
and this would be a great depression. What makes matters even worse is
that when money is created only the principle of the loan is created.
The money needed to pay the interest is never created. For this reason
it is impossible to pay back the principle plus the interest on all of
the loans that make up our money supply. The extra amount of money
needed to pay the interest was never created and does not exist.

The United States government borrows money from the Federal
Reserve Bank. This bank is not federal but owned by private
stockholders. It is in the business section of the phone book, not the
government section. Other banks also create the money in our money
supply. They are allowed to loan out much more money then they
actually have. Thus they create new money. No one else is allowed to
create money, only bankers have this privilege. All of our money is
debt-money and it is all owed back to bankers, plus the interest.

In the U.S.A. money is created by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing which is a unit of the treasury, but the orders to print come
from the Federal Reserve Banks. The money is created for and owned by
the banks. And the Federal Reserve Banks are not Federal, in spite of
the name. Privately owned commercial banks own the stock of the
Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Banks give the newly
created money to the government in exchange for government bonds. To
simplify: The United States does not make its own money. Bankers
create the money and loan it to the United States with an interest
charge.

The book War Cycles Peace Cycles puts it this way:

"If there is only $10 in existence, and you lend it to someone
under the condition that he repay $11, and if he agrees to this, he
has agreed to the impossible."

The book The Struggle for World Power put it this way:

"The Bank of England... was the first payment institution which
was legally empowered to issue state-authorized paper currency and ,
therefore, the Government itself became its debtor. Thus the State not
only renounced its monopoly on monetary emission, but also agreed to
borrow the privately-created money from the bankers...Not only the
thing being done, but even the very name was a deliberate fraud and
deception to conceal the essence of the deed. To create money out of
nothing is to make valid and effective claim on all goods and services
for no return, which is fraud and theft, made worse by the
circumstances that the money is lent out at interest...it follows that
those who have the power to 'create' out of nothing all the money in
each country and the whole world and lend it as stated, have total
power over all states, parties, firms, radio, press, individuals and
so on. Therefore the power of Parliament in general, and especially
with regard to money, is non-existent, and all the true sovereignty is
in the hands of those private individuals who issue all money"

>
>The same morons who content that White people are near-terminal in
>their stupidity, and completely incapable of using their minds, also
>reinforce this hatemongering hysteria by insisting that
>
>"The Jews control the government!"
>"The Jews control the government!"
>"The Jews control the government!"

The media is the government. A minor post like president is a joke
compared to the media power.


>
>.... which is, of course, clear evidence that they also believe that
>
>"White people are too stupid to govern themselves!"
>
>.... having already told White folks that they're too stupid to think
>for themselves, or govern themselves, they feel compelled to add
>insult to injury by insisting that
>
>"The Jews control the monetary system!"
>"The Jews control the monetary system!"
>"The Jews control the monetary system!"
>
>.... which means, it is obvious, that
>
>"White people are too stupid to manage their own money!"
>
>As if these things were not enough, these "white racialists" that
>"love White people" also say:
>
>"The Holocaust is a hoax!"
>"The Holocaust is a hoax!"
>"The Holocaust is a hoax!"
>
>.... which means that they believe a people who represent less than 2%
>of the entire world's population have duped not only every _white_ person
>in the world, but indeed every _other_ person as well! How's _that_
>for "You folks are REALLY stupid"?

Since they control the media what else would you expect?

>
>.... and yet the authors of these gratuitous racial slurs continue to
>insist ("nudge nudge, wink wink...") that they are "advocates for
>White people!
>
>Go figger.

"Spin" should be your middle name.

Joe Bruno

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As of the 1997 census, Jews represented 0.2% of the world's population.
That means there are 500 Gentiles for every Jew on Earth.


have duped not only every _white_ person
> in the world, but indeed every _other_ person as well! How's _that_
> for "You folks are REALLY stupid"?

What's more, the Holocaust info did not come from Jews at all. It came
from the Nuremberg Trials. The estimate of six million came from Adolf
Eichmann himself. It was reported in a conversation with a Dr William
Hoettl and Dr Hoettl's affidavit has already been posted by me right
here. I have forwarded a copy of it to Ken McVay for posting on the
Nizkor web site, since some people claim they cannot access my link.

Joe Bruno

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Topaz wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:35:00 -0400, "go-bassn" <don...@erols.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >But continued to practice it.
>
> Was that in a Hollywood movie?
>
> Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
> Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
> Party Congress:


ROTFL! What was Goebbel's position in Nazi Germany?

Minister of Propaganda.

Joe Bruno

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Patrick Keenan

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> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:04:10 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>So you think it's OK to sterilize visitors?
>>
>>They sterilized citizens, who are by definition Germans.
>
> This speech delivered by Dr. Walter Grob, the head of the Nazi Party's
> Office of Racial Policy. He was speaking to a women's meeting at the
> Gau Party Rally in Cologne on 13 October 1934. After this speech I
> will make my comment on it.

<Snip speech agrees that Nazis sterilized citizens for the defect of not
being Aryan>


> In the past there was survival of the fittest and humans evolved
> into higher beings with that. But it was a cruel world. Notice in the
> above speech that he did say:
>
> "we took the physically weak, the mentally ill, the genetically
> defective criminals and not only kept them alive and cared for
> them-that is our duty as human beings, which we certainly do not want
> to ignore in the future either"

Then please, explain the T-4 program.

And note that since the eugenics policies led to the killing of a member of
Hitler's family (Aloisia), what does that say about the quality of his
bloodline?

>
> Survival of the fittest should be replaced by sterilization.

Why, because the 'Race" in question can't compete by natural selection?
Because it is in fact not fit to survive?

> We would
> still evolve into higher beings, but this way is much more humane.
>
> We should take care for those who need help and many work hours
> would be done to provide for them, and all we ask in return is for
> them not to pass their misfortune onto more generations. We are not
> asking too much at all.
>
> It was a great speech. These policies that would make a nation
> unimaginably great, a heaven on earth. Heil Hitler.

But in fact did not. They destroyed it.

>
>>No, they do not. And unlike you, I can do far more than reflexively
>>respond with cut & paste.
>
>
> There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
> Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
> Hollywood.

And off you go with a mindless cut& paste.

Are you a man or a parrot?

>
> Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".

<Snippage>


..."
>
>>No, it isn't. You'd know this if you actually knew the history.
>
> What you call "history" is nothing but Jew propaganda. The Jews
> control your media.

Another slogan! And a false one as well.

Are you saying that the Jews control Al-Jazeera?

Please try to think for yourself.


>>
>>There weren't enough males around for marriages, as the Nazis had shipped
>>them off to various fronts, so the Nazis encouraged out-of-wedlock
>>pregnancies.
>>
>>So, why did the Nazis discontinue all religious education for those over
>>14,
>>and jail various Christians?
>
> He jailed some so-called Christians because they were enemies on the
> side of the reds during a war against Communism. The USA and Britain
> locked up political opponants.

So why did the Nazis discontinue all religious education for those over 14?


>
> Here is an article from Frauen Warte magazine, the National Socialist
> Party's magazine for
> women:
> The Educational Principles of the New Germany:
> What Schools and Parents Need to Know About the Goals of National
> Socialist Education

National Socialist education was very long on physical fitness and very
short on intellectual activity. For this reason, the SS early on
complained about the intellectual shortcomings of recruits.

The SS complained that men who'd been on active service for three years, and
went for refresher courses, knew far more than those who were *graduating*.

In other words, National Socialist control of education led to a *very*
rapid decline in the quality of education. Even the SS complained!


<Snip more cut and paste>>

>>And please explain how Christianity provides the foundations for mass
>>murder
>>and slavery.
>
>
>
> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> concentration camps.

And killed many of them, systematically.

> The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> political opponants and for less reason.

But did not have a program of murder in place.

There's a rather large difference between the two examples.

Try to think for yourself if you still have a brain.

> At the end of the war there
> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> because Germany was being bombed to rubble.

That can happen if you start a war.

> There is no evidence that the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination
> plan.

There is plenty, but as you have surrendered your brain, you can't accept
its existence.

So what led you to surrender your brain?

<Snip huge cut and paste>

>>>
>>> No, I meant that it was a Jewish think to say.
>>
>>Why?
>
> Why do you think Hilter didn't read the Bible? Did he say he didn't?
> Actually they found Bibles and other religious writings in his library
> and he underlined some verses.
> You are the one who is proving a negative. It's obvious that you
> or someone else just made that up. How can you know that he didn't
> read the Bible? And that is what your side is all about. You feel free
> to just make up anything you want.

Excuse me, but you are the one making up the story that there is no evidence
for gas chambers or organized murder.

> And you are so corrupted by Jews

ah, no.

> that you can't even see that is what you are doing.

Unlike you, I am quite willing to look at all sides of an issue.

You, however, are quite willing to pretend that things just don't exist.

>>
>>Not true. That's just a mindless mantra.
>>
>>What led you to surrender your brain?
>>
> I heard Izzy Asper died

Well, that's news. He died two years ago. Keep right up on things, don't
you?

Oh, right.. it's just another cut and paste. You don't actually think for
yourself.

>so the following article is outdated. But it still gives a lot of insight
> on Canada.

And as usual, you respond not with anything even related to the question,
just more parroted cut and paste.

So what led you to surrender your brain?

Is it *possible* for you to even form words of your own now?

-pk

<Snip completely unrelated cut and paste>


Ben Cramer

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What does dictionary.com say about hasbarah?


Ben Cramer

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>
> As of the 1997 census, Jews represented 0.2% of the world's population.
> That means there are 500 Gentiles for every Jew on Earth.

You'd do well to remember that laddie.

>I have forwarded a copy of it to Ken McVay for posting on the
> Nizkor web site, since some people claim they cannot access my link.

It's not a claim laddie, it's a valid statement of fact.

Joe Bruno

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Ben Cramer wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> news:1118520803.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> >
> > As of the 1997 census, Jews represented 0.2% of the world's population.
> > That means there are 500 Gentiles for every Jew on Earth.
>
> You'd do well to remember that laddie.


Come and get it, yellowbelly.


>
> >I have forwarded a copy of it to Ken McVay for posting on the
> > Nizkor web site, since some people claim they cannot access my link.
>
> It's not a claim laddie, it's a valid statement of fact.


No valid statements of fact come from liars like you.

Ben Cramer

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>
>
> Ben Cramer wrote:
>> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> >
>> > As of the 1997 census, Jews represented 0.2% of the world's population.
>> > That means there are 500 Gentiles for every Jew on Earth.
>>
>> You'd do well to remember that laddie.
>
>
> Come and get it, yellowbelly.

More empty threats from the febrile, thieving old cunt.

>>
>> >I have forwarded a copy of it to Ken McVay for posting on the
>> > Nizkor web site, since some people claim they cannot access my link.
>>
>> It's not a claim laddie, it's a valid statement of fact.
>
>
> No valid statements of fact come from liars like you.

I'm afraid all the lies are down to you joey. Have you leaned what CPR is
all about yet? Have you been man enough to accept you were totally wrong,
and lied through you rotten teeth about it?


>


Topaz

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On 11 Jun 2005 13:15:53 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
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>


>ROTFL! What was Goebbel's position in Nazi Germany?
>
>Minister of Propaganda.

Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
the Will.

"It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and
precisely. This is especially true since in past decades it was
subject to unfavorable definitions, particularly as the enemy defined
it with regards to us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those
abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly
good in this area, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the
facts. We learned this all too clearly during the World War. While the
enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at
Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely
defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly
won over the greater part of the neutral states did the German
government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too
late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the
war, so too with propaganda. We lost the
war in this area more than in any other.
The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war
was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even
today large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical
characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing
the facts and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that
were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about
German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to
realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of
calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.
The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation,
particularly as the result of political practice in Germany.
Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern
state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the
subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not
only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand
that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes
everything that helps the people to realize this.
Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is
aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people
because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the
highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts
in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its
foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand,
rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a
question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach,
evidence and language.
Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to
an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without
internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a
superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it
wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such
is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the the
goals it seeks."

"Each propaganda had a direction. The quality of this direction
determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good
propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people
cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the
truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A
propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be
successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along
that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good
cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is
good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. But a good idea
is itself the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without
being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works
without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it
is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will
lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other
side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are for example
convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not
enough. The world should also have known that our cause was good.
However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that
clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals.
Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich and the army
because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.
National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the
correct practical conclusions from that knowledges. The ideal of a
socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but
became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million
Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for
that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of
remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda,
it became hard, steely everyday reality."

"Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its
elimination was the end result of a process that began in the people.
But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people
that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive
national discipline of the German press would never have been possible
without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish
press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our
propaganda. Today particularism in Germany is something of the past.
The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich
is no accident, rather depended on psychological foundations that were
established by our propaganda.
Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of
class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not
rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings
resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and
workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor
is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and
more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and
tireless labor of thousands of speakers?"

"We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the
people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major
cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are
possible only with the powerful support of the people. The
prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and
maintains the connection to the people.
The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million Marks. This was
not the result of taxation, rather many gifts of every amount.
Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done
nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda
using every modern means presented the whole nation with the need of
this program of social assistance.
45 million Reich Marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million
Reich Marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich Marks
worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich Marks worth of meals
were provided, and 70 million Reich Marks worth of clothing.
Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind,
others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of
a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts
subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million
Reich Marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of "One Dish
Sundays." The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the
contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or
free shipping with a value of 14 million Marks.
Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter
Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid
workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 Gaue and 330 in the Reich
headquarters.
Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social
assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success
was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was
cold.
Over 40 million people approved of the Führer's decision to leave the
League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to
speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace
and equality as the national ideals of the German people. The issues
of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again,
propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November,
and therefore of the freedom of action that the Führer had.
Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the
support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda
that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public
life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public
opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership
and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the
goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose and
goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and
ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over
other nations will never again be lost.
May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives
light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda.
Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and
drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging
technical means. Only a living relationship between people, movement
and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, which he
have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into
bureaucracy and official narrow-mindedness.
Creative people made it and put it in the service of our movement. We
must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its
service.
It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm
ground on which it must stand. It rises from the depths of the people,
and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength.
It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer
lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a nation."

Topaz

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:25:59 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
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>Then please, explain the T-4 program.
>
>And note that since the eugenics policies led to the killing of a member of
>Hitler's family (Aloisia), what does that say about the quality of his
>bloodline?

"The German euthanasia program was nothing more than a program to

"Berlin, 1 September 1939

/signed/ Adolf Hitler


Morghus

>


>Why, because the 'Race" in question can't compete by natural selection?
>Because it is in fact not fit to survive?

It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all.
One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his father.
The
argument began when the young student tried to explain to his father
that as
White people, they should be held accountable for all the evils that
they
had inflicted upon non-Whites througout history. George explained:
"Because
of European racism, we stole the Indians' land, we held blacks in
slavery,
we persecuted the Jews, and we plundered the environment. We've been
oppressive racists for thousands of years so it's only fair that we
pay
economic reparations for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm
pleased
to see that we are ending our political and economic domination of the
oppressed peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college
professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor,
Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr. Silverstein is a
well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just don't understand
because
you were raised in a White supremacist racist society. That's why I've
come
to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as the greatest man in American
history. He stood up to the racists of your generation. Because of
him, my
generation of White kids is completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded
and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I haven't
'oppressed'
anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong with being proud of
one's own
people, including the European race of people. Your race is in your
blood.
It's like an extension of your biological family and you ought to be
proud
of your European heritage and identity, just like every other racial
group
in America is proud of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong
sense of
racial identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the
kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited
years ago. There's only one race and that's the human race. Diversity
is our
greatest strength. Differences in so-called "race" are as
insignificant as
differences in belly buttons. And besides, UN statistics now show that
low
White birth rates, along with the fact that we live in an
multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture
will have died out by the end of the century," young George said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you
know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of
the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young George
replied; "I
think it's great! It will mean the end of racism and the end of hate.
The
oppressed peoples of the world would have been better off if us racist
Europeans had never existed to begin with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke
cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone and lost
in a
cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared to him and said
"Well
George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show
you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or Whites, had
never
existed. You now live in a world where Europeans never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist
bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able to tell
my
professor and my friends how great this non-racist world was. Say, I'm
freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where
you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them.
Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would you
like to
go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I
suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second, are these
Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians
were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it doesn't mean
they
all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd
feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if they turn out to
be
violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself
with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we could make a
spear
with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to
ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander
Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed. No
Europeans
remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep in the damn
cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter
so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence. "There
are no
lighters here, and no matches. Those are European gadgets and evil
Europeans
never existed remember? If you want to get warm, you need to do like
the
locals do and start rubbing twigs together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together
for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil
pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the angel
sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire
with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I
can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to the great
Incan
civilization I learned about at college. Since European racists like
Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the Incans will still be
there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the
evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were never
born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This is a
world
without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't
here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses of coal,
oil
and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow you to cheat
just
a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an
abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was grateful
for
the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to complain about
the
heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here.
Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here.
Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by evil
White
men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002 these people
still
haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or their food cool? a
frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't
live like like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars! Dammit
I'll
walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get
dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that he
could
see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil White
man
too...and he was never born. There are some branches over there if you
want
to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence
and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody has got
to
stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never
existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact, it
was the
oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the Spanish armed
forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who would rid them
of the
oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane
civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available
to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic Ocean. The
great
Viking sailors and European navigators never existed. No Phoenicians,
no
Leif Erikson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus, no Magellan, no
Hudson
and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build your own ship, there
would be
no compass for you to navigate with and no sextant either. I'm afraid
you're
stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to
Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African
tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by other
Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?" George
asked
Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long
before the whites arrived." Clarence said."In fact, most of the slaves
who
were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave traders by African
tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his
White assassin never existed, this great man should still be alive.
He's
probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an advanced
civilization. He will free these slaves from their African masters.
Take me
to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked
women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men were out
on a
hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to the dingy
little hut
of the tribal witchdocter and spiritual leader. There he saw a
wild-looking
man with a necklace of teeth around his neck and a huge ring pierced
through
his nose. "What the hell is that? George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became
Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities or
seminaries
built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create such
opportunities.
But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He specilaizes in
casting
evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen
to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George and tied
him to
a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor
King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out while
you are
still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to his tribe,"
laughed
Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your
hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now.
Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established great
civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart,
George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the banks of
the
river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I
learned during Black History Month about many talented black inventors
and
scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington Carver, Benjamin
Banneker,
Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson, the preeminent brain surgeon
in
all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarense replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist
exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them. Civilization
as
you had known it had only been introduced to these people just a few
centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no universities, no
hospitals, no
means of transportation other than animals, no science, no medicine,
no
machines. In fact, the wheel hasn't even been discovered in
Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their
full human potential because Europeans weren't around to introduce
higher
civilization and learning to them. There are no George Washington
Carvers in
this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons, no Booker T. Washingtons, no
Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans, no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill
Cosbys,
no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of
the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest
toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets or
urinals in
this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans. The people in
this
non-White world still relieve themselves in open fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet
paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag
then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the
great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to be able to
see
them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this,
but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The
anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies confirmed this fact.
There
are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And the Carthaginians were White
too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's
in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled
down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North America. A
nomadic
existence based on hunting and food gathering. No great cities, no
science,
no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just a hard daily struggle
against
life and the elements of nature. In a Europe without evil Whites, the
Roman
Empire never existed nor did the Greeks. There was no Renaisance
either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India,
China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the Taj
Mahal
please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know that the
ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by ancient
Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the ones who
civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that
Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be.
In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were not
White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created
Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities who
populated
the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and less evil White
people until they faded out completely, along with the advanced
civilization
they had built. You will notice that there are still a few
white-skinned and
fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis around today -- in the world you
came
from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive
world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan. "Japan!
I'll
show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese can make TVs
and
cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization that I can live
in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society
was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but it
seemed as
if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman, or a
soldier.
There were no cars, no skyscapers, no lights, no stereos, no sciences,
no
technologies, no universities. It was a stagnant agricultural society
that
seemed to have reached its high water mark and was incapable of moving
forward. George knew he could not live here either.

Clarence explained to Geeorge: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese
peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern Asia
that you
had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it did before
Commodore
Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in the 1850s. There's no
industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony, no Hitachi, no
Panasonic, no
Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none of the trappings or comforts
of
modern life. These things don't exist in Japan or anywhere else
because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the
world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he
depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left him
physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness.
I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that
call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was right.
You
really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish mistake it
is to
be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to let them die out?
This
is what the world would be like without the creative spark of Edison
and
Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great scientists, or mathematicians,
or
inventors or fine artists. No Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates,
no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no
Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no Dickens, no
Twain, no
Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no Michelangelo, no Galileo, no
Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no
Berlin,
no St. Petersburg, no Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no
London, no
New York, no Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no
universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no
electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing, no houses, no
steel,
no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
-
there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a
high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of this
world to
build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence. A brutal
planet
where the few people who aren't mired in eternal ignorance and
darkness have
reached their peak of civilization and are advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven
days straight. He covered everything. History, science, economics,
philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture, medicine,
politics,
agriculture, religion, and all the creations and contributions that
the
European peoples had made in every conceivable field of human
endeavor.
George listened closely to every word. He felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope
you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have learned
an
important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the departing
angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and
hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out
to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I understand
now
what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back to the world
that I
came from. A world where Europeans not only existed, but blessed the
rest of
humanity world with their unique creative ability. I want to live in a
civilized world. Please God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh
God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with
joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes
off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floormates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone
crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the
shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different languages.
He
sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English, Gloire
Immortelle in
French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also Belgian, Spanish and
French
ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy began to stream down his
cheeks. The
degenerate music of Hip-Hop and Rap lost all of its appeal to young
George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole
entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal Marsala.
With
his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish olives and Russian
dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine, followed by a German
pastry
for dessert. He finished his meal off with a hot cup of English tea
and a
Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be
done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South Africa
who
were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up control of those
once-European nations. He thought of the many thousands of qualified
Whites
who were passed up for good jobs and college entrance because of
racial
quotas that discriminate against Europeans. He thought about the
decling
birthrates among all the European nations of the world. He remembered
that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own
nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He recalled
the
O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in America cheered
when that
brutal double murderer was set free by a black jury after he stabbed
two
Whites to death. He remembered the Los Angeles riots of 1992, where
dozens
of Whites were dragged out of their vehicles and killed like dogs in
the
streets by packs of White-hating monsters who were never even
punished! He
remembered the time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford
University:
"Hey Hey Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began
to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said
he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker.
George now understood that that his people were on a collision course
with
worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this great
people must
not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to
him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a
seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was lecturing on
and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It
was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable White schoolmates,
with
their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and backwards baseball caps, were
swallowing Silverstein's poison pills hook, line and sinker. After
letting
Silverstein spew his cultural poison for about 15 minutes or so,
George
raised his hand so that he could give the profesor a piece of his
newly
educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that
you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that shirt and tie,
and
without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my course so much that
you
signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to meet George. He was one
of my
brightest students last semester. He truly has a thorough grasp of the
ideas
presented in this course. George, would you be so kind as to tell my
class
about that brilliant term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You
pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and
manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We Europeans have
nothing
to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and everything to be proud
of.
And most of all, we don't owe anybody jack-shit - not one thin dime!
To the
contrary, it is the rest of humanity that owes us a debt which can
never be
repaid! We are the rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural
heritage. You vile manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the
sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you
inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just contribute
to
civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I decare that I will no longer
tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear our people down.
Never
again will we walk on eggshells when we speak, always fearing that we
might
be called "racist." I no longer care what people think. All that
matters is
the truth which you have sought to pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving
false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games of
divide and
conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to learn anymore
about
Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Black History Month.
They
would not have amounted to anything without the institutions of high
civilization created by the European peoples. I'm going to set this
class
straight about who the truly great men of history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history
that you and your ilk have erased from our collective memories. You
speak of
a world liberated from European influence? Permit me tell your
students
about such a world, Silverstein, because I can speak from personal
experience, you wretched little conspiring monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shellshocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at
the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods.
Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an eloquence he
never
thought he could muster, George broke out into a 60-minute monologue
on
history, science, philosophy, culture, and all the other attributes
that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's
brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of his tirade,
George's reawakened classmates were thundering their approval of his
speech.
The class gave George a standing ovation and they thanked him for
helping
them rediscover and reclaim their own sense of pride and lost
identity. The
unstoppable power of truth had melted away years of Marxist guilt
tripping,
self hate, wimpishness and cultural brainwashing in just one
unforgettable
hour. The inspired students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's
class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their
shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a conquering
hero. With
a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards the sky, winked and said
"Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these
reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political
correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear was that
more of
these proud European youths would one day reawaken and take their
country
and civilization back from the Silversteins of the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and
women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and unique
creative abilties. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the music
industry,
the colleges, and the public schools are all controlled by "liberals"
like
Dr. Silverstein. With the power of political correctness in their
hands,
they can continue to tear down our European ancesters, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the
whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push "hip-hop"
music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak, confused and
morally
degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these facts, Silverstein
smiled a
devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A few of these European sheep
may
wake up to what's being done to them, but the majority of these idiots
never
will." And he smiled again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist
glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's
too late."

Or will they?

>
>But in fact did not. They destroyed it.

"By the time Hitler reached the position of leadership,

Morghus

>


>And off you go with a mindless cut& paste.
>
>Are you a man or a parrot?

>


>Another slogan! And a false one as well.
>
>Are you saying that the Jews control Al-Jazeera?
>
>Please try to think for yourself.
>

>So why did the Nazis discontinue all religious education for those over 14?

Here is an article from Frauen Warte magazine, the National Socialist
Party's magazine for
women:
The Educational Principles of the New Germany:
What Schools and Parents Need to Know About the Goals of National
Socialist Education

German people, German parents! The new Germany created by our people's

>


>National Socialist education was very long on physical fitness and very
>short on intellectual activity. For this reason, the SS early on
>complained about the intellectual shortcomings of recruits.

OPERATION PAPERCLIP
After WWII ended in 1945, victorious Russian and American intelligence
teams
began a treasure hunt throughout occupied Germany for military and
scientific booty. They were looking for things like new rocket and
aircraft
designs, medicines, and electronics. But they were also hunting down
the
most precious "spoils" of all: the scientists whose work had nearly
won the
war for Germany. The engineers and intelligence officers of the Nazi
War
Machine.
The U.S. Military rounded up Nazi scientists and brought them to
America. It
had originally intended merely to debrief them and send them back to
Germany. But when it realized the extent of the scientists knowledge
and
expertise, the War Department decided it would be a waste to send the
scientists home. Following the discovery of flying discs (foo
fighters),
particle/laser beam weaponry in German military bases, the War
Department
decided that NASA and the CIA must control this technology, and the
Nazi
engineers that had worked on this technology.

There was only one problem: it was illegal. U.S. law explicitly
prohibited
Nazi officials from immigrating to America--and as many as
three-quarters of
the scientists in question had been committed Nazis.

Data-Points:


Convinced that German scientists could help America's postwar efforts,
President Harry Truman agreed in September 1946 to authorize "Project
Paperclip," a program to bring selected German scientists to work on
America's behalf during the "Cold War"
However, Truman expressly excluded anyone found "to have been a member
of
the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities,
or an
active supporter of Naziism or militarism."

The War Department's Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA)
conducted
background investigations of the scientists. In February 1947, JIOA
Director
Bosquet Wev submitted the first set of scientists' dossiers to the
State and
Justice Departments for review.

The Dossiers were damning. Samauel Klaus, the State Departments
representative on the JIOA board, claimed that all the scientists in
this
first batch were "ardent Nazis." Their visa requests were denied.

Wev was furious. He wrote a memo warning that "the best intrests of
the
United States have been subjugated to the efforts expended in 'beating
a
dead Nazi horse.'" He also declared that the return of these
scientists to
Germany, where they could be exploited by America's enemies, presented
a
"far greater security threat to this country than any former Nazi
affiliations which they may have had or even any Nazi sympathies that
they
may still have."

When the JIOA formed to investigate the backgrounds and form dossiers
on the
Nazis, the Nazi Intelligence leader Reinhard Gehlen met with the CIA
director Allen Dulles. Dulles and Gehlen hit it off immediatly. Gehlen
was a
master spy for the Nazis and had infilitrated Russia with his vast
Nazi
Intelligence network. Dulles promised Gehlen that his Intelligence
unit was
safe in the CIA.

Apparently, Wev decided to sidestep the problem. Dulles had the
scientists
dossier's re-written to eliminate incriminating evidence. As promised,
Allen
Dulles delivered the Nazi Intelligence unit to the CIA, which later
opened
many umbrella projects stemming from Nazi mad research. (MK-ULTRA /
ARTICHOKE, OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX)

>
>The SS complained that men who'd been on active service for three years, and
>went for refresher courses, knew far more than those who were *graduating*.
>
>In other words, National Socialist control of education led to a *very*
>rapid decline in the quality of education. Even the SS complained!


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=
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College Seniors No More Knowledgeable Than 1950s High School Grads
By Scott Hogenson
CNSNews.com Executive Editor
December 18, 2002

(CNSNews.com) - The college seniors of today have no better grasp of
general knowledge than the high school graduates of almost half a
century ago, according to the results of a new study.

The average of correct responses for modern college seniors on a
series of questions assessing "general cultural knowledge" was 53.5
percent compared with 54.5 percent of high school graduates in 1955,
according to a survey by Zogby International.

The Zogby poll of 401 randomly selected college seniors was conducted
in April for the Princeton, N.J.-based National Association of
Scholars and released Wednesday.

"The average amount of knowledge that college seniors had was just
about the same as the average amount of knowledge that high school
graduates had back in the 1950s," said NAS President Stephen H. Balch.

Balch noted that the high school grads of half a century ago performed
better than today's college seniors on history questions, while
contemporary students fared better on questions covering art and
literature, with no appreciable difference on geography questions.

The questions asked in the April poll by Zogby were virtually the same
as questions asked by the Gallup Organization in 1955, with a few
questions being slightly modified to reflect history.

"The questions were just about identical, as identical as we could
make them," said Balch. "In most cases, they were absolutely
identical."

>And killed many of them, systematically.


by Theodore J. O'Keefe

Nothing has been more effective in establishing the authenticity of
the Holocaust
story in the minds of Americans than the terrible scenes US troops
discovered
when they entered German concentration camps at the close of World War
II.

At Dachau, Buchenwald, Dora, Mauthausen, and other work and detention
camps, horrified US infantrymen encountered heaps of dead and dying
inmates,
emaciated and diseased. Survivors told them hair-raising stories of
torture and
slaughter, and backed up their claims by showing the GIs crematory
ovens, alleged
execution gas chambers, supposed implements of torture, and even
shrunken
heads and lampshades, gloves, and handbags purportedly made from skin
flayed
from dead inmates.

US government authorities, mindful that many Americans who remembered
the
atrocity stories fed them during World War I still doubted the Allied
propaganda
directed against the Hitler regime, resolved to "document" what the
GIs had found
in the camps. Prominent newsmen and politicians were flown in to see
the harrowing
evidence, while the US Army Signal Corps filmed and photographed the
scenes
for posterity. Famous journalist Edward R. Murrow reported, in tones
of horror,
but no longer of disbelief, what he had been told and shown, and
Dachau and
Buchenwald were branded on the hearts and minds of the American
populace as
names of infamy unmatched in the sad and bloody history of this
planet.

For Americans, what was "discovered" at the camps -- the dead and the
diseased,
the terrible stories of the inmates, all the props of torture and
terror -- became the
basis not simply of a transitory propaganda campaign but of the
conviction that,
yes, it was true: the Germans did exterminate six million Jews, most
of them in
lethal gas chambers.

What the GIs found was used, by way of films that were mandatory
viewing for
the vanquished populace of Germany, to "re-educate" the German people
by
destroying their national pride and their will to a united,
independent national state,
imposing in their place overwhelming feelings of collective guilt and
political
impotence. And when the testimony, and the verdict, of the Nuremberg
Tribunal
incorporated most, if not all, of the horror stories Americans were
told about
Dachau, Buchenwald, and other places captured by the US Army, the
Holocaust
could pass for one of the most documented, one of the most
authenticated, one of
the most proven historical episodes in the human record.

A Different Reality

But it is known today that, very soon after the liberation of the
camps, American
authorities were aware that the real story of the camps was quite
different from the
one in which they were coaching military public information
officers, government
spokesmen, politicians, journalists, and other mouthpieces.

When American and British forces overran western and central Germany
in the
spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with
discovering and
securing any evidence of German war crimes.

Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic
pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army's Judge Advocate
General's
Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson
performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps,
examining
on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he
was
questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors.

Dr. Larson's findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What
we've
heard is that six million Jews were exterminated.Part of that is a
hoax." And what
part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his
knowledge he
"was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European
Theater" of Allied
military operations, confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas
uncovered."

Typhus, Not Poison Gas

If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau,
Buchenwald and
Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or deliberately
starved? The
answers to these questions are known as well.

As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief
cause of death
at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was disease, above all typhus,
an old and
terrible scourge of mankind that until recently flourished in places
where
populations were crowded together in circumstances where public health
measures
were unknown or had broken down. Such was the case in the overcrowded
internment camps in Germany at war's end, where, despite such measures
as
systematic delousing, quarantine of the sick and cremation of the
dead, the virtual
collapse of Germany's food, transport, and public health systems led
to
catastrophe.

Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and
mortality in
the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a
professor of
preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School
of Public
Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon
reported in
1948 that "The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up
the great
bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon
summarized the
causes for the outbreaks as follows:

Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an
astounding sight, a
mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often
hungry and
carrying typhus with them ...Germany was in chaos. The destruction of
whole cities
and the path left by advancing armies produced a disruption of living
conditions
contributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade,
public utilities
were seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor,
housing was
inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere lacking. Still
more
important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few
countries and few
times have experienced.

Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a
psychiatrist
of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces
as a young
medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the
diseased
survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985
that
"Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration
camp
during World War II weren't deliberately starved to death but died
from a rash of
diseases."

Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited
stories of
deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after
inspecting the well
equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back
to 1942,
of food cooked and dispensed each day.

Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to
the contrary,
no researcher has been able to document a German policy of
extermination
through starvation in the German camps.

No 'Human Skin' Lampshades

What of the ghoulish stories of concentration camp inmates skinned for
their
tattoos, flayed to make lampshades and handbags, or other artifacts?
What of the
innumerable "torture racks," "meathooks," whipping posts, gallows, and
other tools
of torment and death that are reported to have abounded at every
German camp?
These allegations, and even more grotesque ones proffered by Soviet
prosecutors,
found their way into the record at Nuremberg.

The lampshade and tattooed-skin charges were made against Ilse Koch,
dubbed
by journalists the "Bitch of Buchenwald," who was reported to have
furnished her
house with objects manufactured from the tanned hides of luckless
inmates.

But General Lucius Clay, military governor of the US zone of occupied
Germany,
who reviewed her case in 1948, told his superiors in Washington:
"There is no
convincing evidence that she [Ilse Koch] selected inmates for
extermination in
order to secure tattooed skins or that she possessed any articles made
of human
skin." In an interview General Clay gave years later, he stated about
the material
for the infamous lampshades: "Well, it turned out actually that it was
goat flesh. But
at the trial it was still human flesh. It was almost impossible for
her to have gotten a
fair trial." Ilse Koch hanged herself in a German jail in 1967.

It would be tedious to itemize and refute the thousands of bizarre
claims as to Nazi
atrocities. That there were instances of German cruelty, however, is
clear from the
testimony of Dr. Konrad Morgen, a legal investigator attached to the
Reich
Criminal Police, whose statements on the witness stand at Nuremberg
have never
been challenged by proponents of the Jewish Holocaust story. Dr.
Morgen
informed the court that he had been given full authority by Heinrich
Himmler,
commander of Hitler's SS and the dread Gestapo, to enter any German
concentration camp and investigate instances of cruelty and
corruption on the part of camp personnel.
As he explained in sworn testimony at Nuremberg, Dr. Morgen
investigated 800
such cases, resulting in more than 200 convictions. Punishments
included the death
penalty for the worst offenders, including Hermann Florstedt,
commandant of
Lublin (Majdanek), and Karl Koch (Ilse's husband), commandant of
Buchenwald.

While German camp commandants in certain cases did inflict physical
punishment,
such acts had to be approved by authorities in Berlin, and it was
required that a
camp physician first certify the good health of the prisoner to be
disciplined, and
then be on hand at the actual beating. After all, throughout most of
the war the
camps were important centers of industrial activity. The good health
and morale of
the prisoners was critical to the German war effort, as is evidenced
in a January
1943 order issued
by SS General Richard Glücks, chief of the office that supervised the
concentration camps. It held the camp commanders "personally
responsible for
exhausting every possibility to preserve the physical strength of the
detainees."
Camp Survivors: Merely Victims?
US Army investigators, working at Buchenwald and other camps, quickly
ascertained what was common knowledge among veteran inmates: that the
worst
offenders, the cruelest denizens of the camps, were not the guards but
the
prisoners themselves. Common criminals of the same stripe as those who
populate
US prisons today committed many villainies, particularly when they
held positions
of authority, and fanatical Communists, highly organized to combat
their many
political enemies among the
inmates, eliminated their foes with Stalinist ruthlessness.
Two US Army investigators at Buchenwald, Egon W. Fleck and Edward A.
Tenenbaum, carefully investigated circumstances in the camp before its
liberation.
In a detailed report submitted to their superiors, they revealed, in
the words of
Alfred Toombs, their commander, who wrote a preface to the report,
"how the
prisoners themselves organized a deadly terror within the Nazi
terror."

Fleck and Tenenbaum described the power exercised by criminals and
Communists as follows:

The trusties, who in time became almost exclusively Communist
Germans, had the
power of life and death over all other inmates. They could sentence
a man or a
group to almost certain death ... The Communist trusties were
directly responsible
for a large part of the brutalities at Buchenwald.

Colonel Donald B. Robinson, chief historian of the American military
government
in Germany, summarized the Fleck-Tenenbaum report in an article
published in an
American magazine shortly after the war. Colonel Robinson wrote
succinctly of the
American investigators' findings: "It appeared that the prisoners who
agreed with
the Communists ate; those who didn't starved to death."

Additional corroboration of inmate brutality has been provided by
Ellis E.
Spackman, who, as Chief of Counter-Intelligence Arrests and Detentions
for the
US Seventh Army, was involved in the liberation of Dachau. Spackman,
later a
professor of history at San Bernardino Valley College in California,
wrote in 1966
that at Dachau "the prisoners were the actual instruments that
inflicted the
barbarities on their fellow prisoners."

'Gas Chambers'

In December 1944 US Army officers Colonel Paul Kirk and Lt. Colonel
Edward
J. Gully inspected the German concentration camp at
Struthof-Natzweiler in
Alsace. They submitted their findings to their superiors at the
headquarters of the
US 6th Army Group, which subsequently forwarded their report to the US
War
Crimes Division. While, significantly, the full text of their report
has never been
published, it has been revealed, by a historian supportive of
Holocaust claims, that
the two investigators were careful to characterize equipment exhibited
to them by
French informants as a "so-called lethal gas chamber," and to claim it
was
"allegedly used as a lethal gas chamber." (Emphasis added)

Both the careful phraseology of the Natzweiler report, and its
effective
suppression, stand in stark contrast to the credulity, the confusion,
and the blaring
publicity that accompanied official reports of alleged gas chambers at
Dachau. At
first, a US Army photo depicting a GI gazing at a steel door marked
with a skull
and crossbones and the German words for: "Caution! Gas! Mortal danger!
Don't
open!," was identified as showing the murder weapon.

Later, however, it was evidently decided that the apparatus in
question was merely
a standard delousing chamber for clothing, and another alleged gas
chamber, this
one cunningly disguised as a shower room, was exhibited to American
congressmen and journalists as the site where thousands breathed their
last. While
there exist numerous reports in the press as to the operation of this
second "gas
chamber," no official report by trained Army investigators has yet
surfaced to
reconcile such problems as the
function of the shower heads: Were they "dummies," or did lethal
cyanide gas
stream through them? (Each theory has appreciable support in
journalistic and
historiographical literature.)

As with Dachau, so with Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, and the other camps
liberated by the Allies in western Germany. There was no end of
propaganda
about "gas chambers," "gas ovens," and the like, but so far not a
single detailed
description of the murder weapon and its function, not a single report
of the kind
that is mandatory for the successful prosecution of any assault or
murder case in
America at that time and today, has come to light.

Furthermore, a number of Holocaust authorities have now publicly
decreed that
there were no gassings, no extermination camps in Germany after all.
(We are now
told that "gassing" and "extermination" camps were located exclusively
in what is
now Poland, in areas captured by the Soviet Red Army and made
off-limits to
western investigators.)

Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary
History,
which is funded by the German government, stated categorically in a
1960 letter to
the German weekly Die Zeit: "Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen
nor in
Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed." Professional "Nazi
hunter"
Simon Wiesenthal stated in 1975 and again in 1993 that "there were no
extermination camps on German soil."

Dachau "gas chamber" No. 2, which was once presented to a stunned and
grieving
world as a weapon that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, is now
described
in the brochure issued to tourists at the modern Dachau "memorial
site" in these
words: "This gas chamber, camouflaged as a shower room, was not used."

The Propaganda Intensifies

More than 50 years after American troops entered Dachau, Buchenwald
and
other German camps, and trained American investigators established the
facts as
to what had gone on in them, the government in Washington, the
entertainment
media in Hollywood, and the print media in New York continue to churn
out
millions of words and images annually on the horrors of the camps and
the infamy
of the Holocaust. Despite the fact that, with the exception of the
defeated
Confederacy, no enemy of America has ever so suffered so complete and
devastating defeat as did Germany in 1945, the mass media and the
politicians
and bureaucrats behave as if Hitler, his troops, and his concentration
camps
continue to exist in an eternal present, and our opinion makers
continue to distort,
through ignorance or malice, the facts about the camps.

Time for the Truth

It is time that the government and the professional historians reveal
the facts about
Dachau, Buchenwald and the other camps. It is time they let the
American public
know how the inmates died, and how they didn't die. It is time that
the claims of
mass murder by gassing are clarified and investigated in the same
manner as any
other claims of murder. It is time that the free ride certain groups
have enjoyed as
the result of unchallenged Holocaust claims be terminated, just as it
is time to end
the scapegoating of other groups, including Germans, eastern
Europeans, the
Roman Catholic hierarchy, and the wartime
leadership of America and Britain, either for their alleged role in
the Holocaust or
their supposed failure to stop it.

Above all, it is time that the citizens of this great Republic have
the facts about the
camps, facts they have a right to know, a right that is fundamental to
the exercise
of their authority and their will in the governance of their country.
As citizens and
as taxpayers, Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, of all faiths, have
a basic right
and an overriding interest in determining the facts of incidents that
are deemed by
those in positions of power to be significant in determining America's
foreign and
educational policy, as well as its selection of past events to be
memorialized in our
civic life.

Today the alleged facts of the Holocaust are at issue all over the
civilized world.
The truth will be decided only by recourse to the facts, in the public
forum: not by
concealing the facts, denying the truth, stonewalling reality. The
truth will out, and it
is time the government of this country, and governments and
international bodies
throughout the world, make public the evidence of what actually
transpired in the
German concentration camps in the years 1933-1945, so that we may put
paid to
the lies, without fear or favor, and carry out the work of
reconciliation and renewal that is
and must be the granite foundation of mutual tolerance between peoples
and of a
peace based on justice.

Summary
The conclusions of the early US Army investigations as to the truth
about the
wartime German concentration camps have since been corroborated by
all
subsequent investigators and can be summarized:

1.The harrowing scenes of dead and dying inmates were not the result
of a
German policy of "extermination," but rather the result of epidemics
of typhus and
other disease brought about largely by the effects of Allied aerial
attacks.
2.Stories of Nazi supercriminals and sadists who turned Jews and
others into
handbags and lampshades for their private profit or amusement were
sick lies or
diseased fantasies; indeed, the German authorities punished corruption
and cruelty
on the part of camp commanders and guards.
3.On the other hand, portrayals of the newly liberated inmates as
saints and
martyrs of Hitlerism were quite often very far from the truth; indeed,
most of the
brutalities inflicted on camp detainees were the work of their fellow
prisoners, in
contravention of German policy and German orders.
4.The alleged homicidal showers and gas chambers were used either for
bathing
camp inmates or delousing their clothes; the claim that they were used
to murder
Jews or other human beings is a contemptible fabrication. Orthodox
historians and
professional "Nazi-hunters" have quietly dropped claims that inmates
were gassed
at Dachau, Buchenwald and other camps in Germany. They continue,
however, to
keep silent regarding the lies about Dachau and Buchenwald, as well as
to evade
an open discussion of the evidence for homicidal gassing at Auschwitz
and the
other camps captured by the Soviets.


Institute For Historical Review
Post Office Box 2739
Newport Beach, California 92659

>But did not have a program of murder in place.
>
>There's a rather large difference between the two examples.
>
>Try to think for yourself if you still have a brain.

The Jews control your media and do your thinking for you.


There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".

>That can happen if you start a war.

The Germans lost some land to Poland after World War One. The
Germans said that their people living on this land were being severely
oppressed by the Polish goverment. This is why Germany fought Poland .
If Florida were taken away from America, Americans would fight to get
it back. Americans will go to war for far less reason than this.

Britain and the other liberal countries then went to war with
Germany even though the Communists also attacked Poland. After they
won the war, Poland was Communist, which shows what the liberals were
fighting for.

Here is a quote from The Nameless War, by Captain A. H. M. Ramsay:

"Can we doubt but that Poland was encouraged to ignore the German note
of March which set forth eminently reasonable suggestions for a
peaceful solution of the problem of the Corridor?

Month after month no reply was vouchsafed by Poland to the German
note. Meanwhile, insult and outrage occurred with suspicious frequency
all along the German frontier, similar to the technique to which the
Jews later introduced the British in Palestine. Day after day the
British public was deluged with war propaganda and misrepresentation
of the situation. Finally their minds were closed against any further
regard to the demands of justice and reason by a new slogan, "You
cannot trust Hitler's word." With this lie the British public was
finally stampeded into throwing all reason and judgement to the winds
and accepting at their face value the war propaganda in the press.

This slogan was founded upon a misrepresentation of Hitler's
assurance given on more than one occasion after a "putsch" such as
that in into Sudetenland, that he "intended to make no further
demands.". The misrepresentation lay in the fact that the press
steadily obscured the major fact, that the "demands" to which Hitler
referred were all along five-fold in character; and covered those five
areas taken from Germany by a dictated peace in which the population
was overwhelmingly German, i.e. Sudetenland, part of Czechoslovakia,
parts of Poland, the Corridor and Danzig.

As German troops occupied each successive section, it is, I
believe, accurate to say that Hitler declared, that he had no
additional demands to make. But here it must be clearly stated in the
interests of justice that he never said that this entailed reducing
the demands which he had originally very clearly delineated, and
repeated on many occasions, namely, the five areas in question.

"The British public was deluded by its press into supposing that
when Hitler said he had no further demands, that there had never been
any statement of his full demands, some of which were still
unfulfilled. They were led to believe that Hitler either never had had
other demands, or that he had abondoned the rest as soon as he had
obtained some of them. When, therefore, the next installment was
added, the press built on this misunderstanding the fallacy that
Hitler's word could not be trusted. Honest dealing needs no such
trickery and and deception. Such methods are only necessary to bolster
up bad or unjust causes. Fortunately we have the calm and
disspassionate judgement in this matter by no less a person than the
late Lord Lothian, recently British Ambassador to the U.S.A. In his
last speech at Chatham House on this subject he remarked: "If the
principle of self-determination had been applied in Germany's favour,
as it was applied agaisnt her, it would have meant the return of the
Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, parts of Poland, the Polish Corridor and
Danzig to the Reich."

Here is a very different presentment of the case to the one which
was foisted upon the British public in 1939: and it is the true one.
Small wonder that these facts had to be withheld from the ordinary
citizen.

Had the British public realized the truth, that each of these
demands of Hilter rested on a foundation of reasonable fairness, the
people of this island would have ruled out any question of war; and it
was war, not truth or justice, upon which international Jewry was
resolved."


Here is another quote from the book:

"The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter
to Mr. Balfour (see page 25), denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan,
which if not checked by the combined action of the European powers,
would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration. By the end of
that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities
of Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organized and maintained for
some time a merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia.
In Germany the Jews, Liebknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg,
etc., made a desperate bid for power. These and other similar
convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own way just
frustated the onslaughts.

In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in the
endeavour to expose the true nature of these evils. Only in one,
however, did a political leader and group arise, who grasped to the
full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world
Jewry. This leader was Adolf Hitler, and his group the National
Socialist Party of Germany.

Never before in history had any country not only repulsed organized
revolution, but discerned Jewry behind it, and faced up to that fact.
We need not wonder that the sewers of Jewish vituperation were flooded
over these men and their leader; nor should we make the mistake of
supposing that Jewry would stick at any lie to deter honest men
everywhere from making a thorough investigation of the facts for
themselves. Nevertheless, if any value liberty, and set out to seek
truth and defend it, this duty of personal investigation is one which
they cannot shirk.

To accept unquestioningly the lies and misrepresentaions of a
Jew-controlled or influenced press, is to spurn truth by sheer
idleness, if for no worse reason."

>
>There is plenty, but as you have surrendered your brain, you can't accept
>its existence.
>
>So what led you to surrender your brain?
>

The Jews control your media and everything you think you know is a

lie. Here is proof that they lie:


Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Jews tell big lies. The
Jewish media took his words out of context and claimed that Hitler was
in favor of big lies. This was in itself a big lie and proof that
Hitler was right. Here is what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf and in
context:

"But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity
for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute
responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had
shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the
catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that
hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for
the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took
away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous
enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the
Fatherland to justice. All this was inspired by the principle--which
is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain
force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always
more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature
than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity
of their minds they are more readily fall victims to the big lie than
the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so
may be brought clearly to their minds, they still doubt and waver and
will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For
the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it
has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in
this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These
people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest
purposes.
"From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than
any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their
very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a
religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a
race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has
branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and
exactly true. He (Schopenhauer) called the Jew 'The Great Master of
Lies'. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not
wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth
to prevail."

>
>Excuse me, but you are the one making up the story that there is no evidence
>for gas chambers or organized murder.

Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas


chamber" which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually
built by the allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:

"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V
are in their demolished state as they were left."

Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...

"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.

"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it
would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully admit
that
it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."

>
>ah, no.


>
>
>Unlike you, I am quite willing to look at all sides of an issue.
>
>You, however, are quite willing to pretend that things just don't exist.

The Jews control your media. Therefore whatever you are told about
Hitler is highly suspect.

>
>Well, that's news. He died two years ago. Keep right up on things, don't
>you?
>
>Oh, right.. it's just another cut and paste. You don't actually think for
>yourself.
>
>

>And as usual, you respond not with anything even related to the question,
>just more parroted cut and paste.
>
>So what led you to surrender your brain?
>
>Is it *possible* for you to even form words of your own now?
>

www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com

Topaz

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On 11 Jun 2005 13:13:24 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
wrote:
>

>What's more, the Holocaust info did not come from Jews at all. It came
>from the Nuremberg Trials.

"The Katyn Forest is an area in Poland were the Soviets had
massacred thousands of Polish cadre. When the Germans wrested control
from the Soviets they were informed of thousands being driven out to
the forest never to be seen again. The Germans located the mass graves
and did a forensic archeological investigation.
At the Nuremberg trials where the Soviets sat as prosecutors and
judges themselves they introduced the massacre as a German crime and
the Allied members allowed it even though they knew who really did it,
which tells us something ugly about the nature of the trials. Super
exemplifying the basic mode of Holocaust evidence, the Soviets
submitted a report hundreds of pages long totally founded on
"eyewitness" accounts. The reality eventually surfaced in the form of
an extant German report, complete with photographs of the excavation
as it was happening along with foreign forensic experts and
journalists invited and Allied POW officers brought in to witness the
scene, all photographed at the scene.
With the advent of Glasnost the Soviets eventually came to admit to
the crime.

The German report stands ironically and poetically as the only
real documented forensic investigation ever performed on any mass
grave stemming from the WW II era.

Nuremberg Tribunal

The incident of the Katyn Forest being introduced to the
Nuremberg Tribunal stands as monolithic evidence that the trials were
a farce. In addition to that one grand indictment the determinations
of the Tribunal also included finding the defendants guilty of mass
extermination at camps in Germany, since erased from the story, and
the 4,000,000 number for Auschwitz currently 1,000,000. Inquiring
minds have gone over the records of the trials and the case for a
kangaroo court is outstanding."


>The estimate of six million came from Adolf
>Eichmann himself. It was reported in a conversation with a Dr William
>Hoettl and Dr Hoettl's affidavit has already been posted by me right
>here. I have forwarded a copy of it to Ken McVay for posting on the
>Nizkor web site, since some people claim they cannot access my link.

Certainly the most bogus "memoirs" yet published are those of Adolf
Eichmann. Before his illegal kidnapping by the Israelis in May, 1960
and the
attendant blaze of international publicity, few people had ever heard
of him
. He was indeed a relatively unimportant person, the head of Office
A4b in
Department IV (the Gestapo) of the Reich Security Head Office. His
office
supervised the transportation to detention camps of a particular
section of
enemy aliens, the Jews. A positive flood of unadulterated rubbish
about
Eichmann showered the world in 1960, of which we may cite as an
example
Comer Clarke's Eichmann: The Savage Truth. ("The orgies often went on
until
six in the morning, a few hours before consigning the next batch of
victims
to death," says Clarke in his chapter "Streamlined Death and Wild Sex
Orgies," p . 124). Strangely enough, the alleged "memoirs" of Adolf
Eichmann
suddenly appeared at the time of his abduction to Israel. They were
uncritically published by the American Life magazine (November 28th,
December 5th, 1960), and were supposed to have been given by Eichmann
to a
journalist in the Argentine shortly before his capture -- an amazing
coincidence. Other sources, however, gave an entirely different
account of
their origin, claiming that they were a record based on Eichmann's
comments
to an "associate" in 1955, though no one even bothered to identify
this
person. By an equally extraordinary coincidence, war crimes
investigators
claimed shortly afterwards to have just "found" in the archives of the
U.S.
Library of Congress, more than fifteen years after the war, the
"complete
file" of Eichmann's department. So far as the "memoirs" themselves are
concerned, they were made to be as horribly incriminating as possible
without straying too far into the realms of the purest fantasy, and
depict
Eichmann speaking with enormous relish about "the physical
annihilation of
the Jews." Their fraudulence is also attested to by various factual
errors,
such as that Himmler was already in command of the Reserve Army by
April of
1944, instead of after the July plot against Hitler's life, a fact
which
Eichmann would certainly have known. The appearance of these "memoirs"
at
precisely the right moment raises no doubt that their object was to
present
a pre-trial propaganda picture of the archetypal "unregenerate Nazi"
and
fiend in human shape. The circumstances of the Eichmann trial in
Israel do
not concern us here; the documents of Soviet origin which were used in
evidence, such as the Wisliceny statement, have been examined already,
and
for an account of the third-degree methods used on Eichmann during his
captivity to render him "co-operative" the reader is referred to the
London
Jewish Chronicle, September 2nd, 1960. More relevant to the literature
of
the extermination legend are the contents of a letter which Eichmann
is
supposed to have written voluntarily and handed over to his captors in
Buenos Aries. It need hardly be added that its Israeli authorship is
transparently obvious. Nothing in it stretches human credulity further
than
the phrase "I am submitting this declaration of my own free will"; but
the
most hollow and revealing statement of all is his alleged willingness
to
appear before a court in Israel, "so that a true picture may be
transmitted
to future generations."

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <ao7pa1pjapv4q2j3k...@4ax.com>,

Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 11 Jun 2005 13:15:53 -0700, "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>ROTFL! What was Goebbel's position in Nazi Germany?
>>
>>Minister of Propaganda.

> Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in

Here is a speech from Alex Vangel:

"I said I agreed with the Bible because it is against the
homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews. This is
what it says about delinquents:

"Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will
not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother,
and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto
them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him,
and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the
gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his
city, This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not
obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the
men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die:
so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel
shall hear, and fear." (UseNet alt.revisionism. Subject:
"Re: More crap from the VangelBot," 31 Jan. 2001. Message-ID:
3c589...@spamkiller.newsgroups.com)

Note that this quote from Mr. Vangel says nothing about
"homosexual perverts, the feminists, and the Jews," as he
suggested. Yet he cites it to justify the murder of children
whose only crime was that of being found "unruly" by Adolf
Hitler's murdering thugs.

For information about Mr. Vangel's hate group, see
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/christian-identity

Ben Cramer

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Please go and save the whales, mcfey.

You're such a boring pratt.


Joe Bruno

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Ben Cramer wrote:
> Please go and save the whales, mcfey.
>
> You're such a boring pratt.


I find much of his material interesting. Your childish nonsense is a
great cure for insomnia.

Ben Cramer

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"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ben Cramer wrote:
>> Please go and save the whales, mcfey.
>>
>> You're such a boring pratt.
>
>
> I find much of his material interesting.

Why does that not surprise me? To make it easy for you joey, it is because
you too, are a boring pratt.

>


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